Title: ANOTHER NOTE
SBUK - June 23, 2008 07:27 PM (GMT)
EFFECTIVE 1st JULY 2008.
The amount of abuse, agressive comments and unnecessary arguments must rapidly decrease. If this forum is to remain open it must be what it was created to be; a happy/friendly music and general entertainment community. New members wont join if the first thing they see is hatrid and arguments.
From the 1st July each member will start a clean slate. We will run a 3 strike system used with the warning system (so everybody will start at 0). 3 strikes and youre out. Simple as that. No sexual orientated abuse. No racial abuse. No attacking people. If you have an issue there are 3 Administrators who can help resolve issues, Steve, Naaman & myself.
Any questions/comments below please.
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Anthony Kerty - June 23, 2008 08:44 PM (GMT)
LOL, I love the 'the boss' smile. :grin: And btw, understood. The reputation system is a good idea.
Lord Mike - June 23, 2008 11:33 PM (GMT)
Does Karen really find being called a Dyke so offensive?
SBUK - June 23, 2008 11:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Lord Mike @ Jun 24 2008, 12:33 AM) |
| Does Karen really find being called a Dyke so offensive? |
Irrelevant. If the comments about somebody elses sexuality make other members uncomfortable - regardless of their own sexuality and even if the topic is not about them - then it must stop. The occassional comment in a blatant humourous way is acceptable. Other comments are not.
SBUK - June 23, 2008 11:56 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Anthony Kerty @ Jun 23 2008, 09:44 PM) |
| LOL, I love the 'the boss' smile. :grin: |
hehe yeah its pretty cool! B)
Naomi - June 24, 2008 12:01 AM (GMT)
I find it offensive seeing it so often, and I understand generally most of you guys do it in humour but sometimes it gets a bit carried away. And others see it as a trend and use it as a bitchy way to dig at her ie. all of the Karen threads about her sexuality lately. She might be happy to answer all of our questions, but maybe it would be better to PM her if anyone has a genuine question.
I frankly will be glad to see this in place because I'm sick of certain lesser known members digging up stuff that is in the past and using it as ammunition against other members. And they wonder why it continues when they can't let it go themselves.
SBUK - June 24, 2008 12:03 AM (GMT)
an individuals sexuality is their own individual business. It is not the concern of an entire forum and multiple topics.
Naomi - June 24, 2008 12:10 AM (GMT)
Karen - June 24, 2008 03:07 AM (GMT)
I personally don't mind a few jocular comments about my sexuality, but I don't think it's a good thing for the forum if it looks as if there's a dislike of lesbians in general. What annoys me more is the constant accusations of people being mentally ill just because they hold opinions you don't agree with. There again, a few jocular comments about the saneness of my opinions don't upset me personally, but people CAN get upset when it just goes ON and ON.
I'm pretty sure that when I was here before, and Musli says this too, the atmosphere in each of the artist forums was a lot more respectful towards the artists - which is as it should be since these are the places where genuine fans would want to go to celebrate their favorite artists. If there's nothing but snidery, abuse, bashing and hating.... well, it may be a lot of fun for certain bitchy individuals but it doesn't make for a very welcoming forum and one recent member here has commented to me about how aggressive and mean some of the other members here can be.
Jack - June 24, 2008 06:32 AM (GMT)
Oh I'll miss the banter here, a lot of things are said tounge in cheek and I hope the system will account for that. If the person at the end of the "attack" can laugh it off then I don't think it should count.
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Coked Up Baby Boy - June 24, 2008 07:34 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE ("Karen") |
| I'm pretty sure that when I was here before, and Musli says this too, the atmosphere in each of the artist forums was a lot more respectful towards the artists - which is as it should be since these are the places where genuine fans would want to go to celebrate their favorite artists. If there's nothing but snidery, abuse, bashing and hating.... well, it may be a lot of fun for certain bitchy individuals but it doesn't make for a very welcoming forum and one recent member here has commented to me about how aggressive and mean some of the other members here can be. |
And fans are welcome here, but this isn't an exclusive Britney or Xtina forum, it's a pop music forum, and we talk about what we like and don't like about music and the artist. If you're looking for FANDOM, join a proper forum delegated to that specific singer, if you don't want to, then you'll just have to deal with the fact that people have different opinions to you AND that they may have a different STYLE of delivering those opinions than YOU do. Doesn't mean they aren't welcome or don't have the right to their say, as you are so desperately trying to do.
It's SBUK.....not NAZI. You need to relax with the hysterics and stop taking everything SO seriously over pop stars.
Jack - June 24, 2008 07:47 AM (GMT)
It is a Britney forum. SBUK = Simply Britney United Kingdom
Coked Up Baby Boy - June 24, 2008 07:53 AM (GMT)
I know but the way it's set up doesn't seem like it, the focus on other artists is pretty big, and not EVERYONE here is a die hard Britney fan. You know what i mean. Ir doesn't FEEL like an exclusive Britney forum, she;s not even the ONLY person in the banner.
SBUK - June 24, 2008 10:09 AM (GMT)
It was originally a Britney only forum however it has changed since it was opened and is more open to other artists. Yes tongue in cheek comments will be ignored and its not going to be 'nazi' style, however when people are throwing around comments like "mentally ill" or "dyke" arent very pleasant, and I find certain comments offensive. I am sure I am not alone.
Coked Up Baby Boy - June 24, 2008 10:58 AM (GMT)
That's fine, if people are offended i'm sure everyone will get in line and do what's asked.
I just don't like overly touchy people telling me what i can and can't say about celebrities. I'm not here to cater to fans who can't handle my sense of humor or criticisms, it would be a real shame to see this place start silencing people for what they think based around famous people, that's a bit extreme and kinda pathetic. That's more my issue with all this, but you yourself haven't addressed that, only Karen has, so this is more to her.
But whatever, she won't care to agree on that, and that's her choice, but i'm not backing down and becoming someone that fits HER mold of how i should and shouldn't be around here, she's not the only person here and i don't have to cater to her needs in regards to Britney Spears, that's just ridiculous.
SBUK - June 24, 2008 03:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Coked Up Baby Boy @ Jun 24 2008, 11:58 AM) |
That's fine, if people are offended i'm sure everyone will get in line and do what's asked.
I just don't like overly touchy people telling me what i can and can't say about celebrities. I'm not here to cater to fans who can't handle my sense of humor or criticisms, it would be a real shame to see this place start silencing people for what they think based around famous people, that's a bit extreme and kinda pathetic. That's more my issue with all this, but you yourself haven't addressed that, only Karen has, so this is more to her. But whatever, she won't care to agree on that, and that's her choice, but i'm not backing down and becoming someone that fits HER mold of how i should and shouldn't be around here, she's not the only person here and i don't have to cater to her needs in regards to Britney Spears, that's just ridiculous. |
If somebody has an opinion on a celebrity thats fine and theyre more than welcome to voice it. If somebody else doenst agree then again they are also welcome to express that. its when it gets to the point where people are taking their opinions beyond that of a celebrity status and making things personal. Thats when the issues arise. Say what you like about a celebtiy just as long as its not leading into a personal attack. :)
Lord Mike - June 24, 2008 03:49 PM (GMT)
But slagging Britney and her HORRIFICNESS off is offensive to Karen. What happens there? :)
SBUK - June 24, 2008 03:51 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Lord Mike @ Jun 24 2008, 04:49 PM) |
| But slagging Britney and her HORRIFICNESS off is offensive to Karen. What happens there? :) |
Tone down the language perhaps? Might become instantly less offensive.
Lord Mike - June 24, 2008 05:24 PM (GMT)
Probs just use sarcasm then
Anthony Kerty - June 24, 2008 06:27 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Lord Mike @ Jun 24 2008, 03:49 PM) |
| But slagging Britney and her HORRIFICNESS off is offensive to Karen. What happens there? :) |
I'm curious about that too.
SBUK - June 24, 2008 08:36 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Anthony Kerty @ Jun 24 2008, 07:27 PM) |
| I'm curious about that too. |
Ive answered that already in my reply above. Tone down the language, its fine to voice your opinions and that goes to everybody, where it stops being fine is when its full of swear words which cause agrovation.
Karen - June 24, 2008 08:52 PM (GMT)
I don't mind some banter - God knows, I've been on the end of plenty of it and I'm still here. I don't mind tongue-in-cheek comments so long as it isn't an incessant hailstorm of ridiculous abuse. For example, Anthony seems to think every normal-sized girl is pregnant. Cubby seems to think he has seen a human being who looks exactly like a bushpig. And both of them have the nerve to call ME deluded.
It's also quite funny to have Anthony criticize me for being biased in favor of Britney - in the Britney sub-forum! You DO tend to get people biased in favor of artists in their own forums or sub-forums. They're called fans.
I really can't see what good it does to go into an artist's forum or sub-forum just to make ridiculous, sneery, bitchy remarks EVERY DAY, even when it's clearly not appropriate or deserved. Why would anyone want to do that? Who does it help? What is the benefit? I used to think the lamebrains at Popdirt who added their vicious, spiteful comments to every single topic about Britney were among the saddest, most pointless people on Earth. And now we have their clones here.
Anthony Kerty - June 24, 2008 09:10 PM (GMT)
Oh Karen, you won't change my opionons. Get over it. :rolleyes:
About your concept of being a fan means you have to be biased... Well, it's definitely YOUR concept. I however think that being a LOON and being BIASED are too very different things.
As for the rest, you can go read my posts on the Britney forum. Although I know you'll keep saying the same things like a broken record. Whatever. Bye. :D
P.S.: You don't TEND. You're ALWAYS biased. Sorry, hun.
Karen - June 24, 2008 09:45 PM (GMT)
If you don't think the fans of an artist are biased in the artist's favor, you're even more deluded than I thought. Why do you think they're called fans? What do you think it means? Do you SERIOUSLY think an artist's fans should be indistinguishable from haters?
I see you like to present yourself as an expert on the English language. Well, here's some words for you that describe a lot of the sneery posts in the Britney forum: asinine, infantile, inane, fatuous. But as for the "tending" - re-read what I said. I said YOU TEND to get people who are biased, not that you get people who tend to be biased. :rolleyes:
Anthony Kerty - June 24, 2008 09:54 PM (GMT)
LMAO!!!! How could I, a portuguese mother language guy, could present myself as an expert on English language 'against' so many british, irish, scotish etc people? LOOOLLLL :rofl:
Anywayz, if you think I am a hater, my main advice to you is: LEAVE THE BUBBLE, my dear. You'll have a heart attack when you go out and realize how many people loathe Britney. Trust me, I've been defending her every way I could during the last 8 years.
But then again, like I said before, I'm not BLIND. We all know she's made a lot, A LOT of mistakes, especially in the last 2 years. And when I criticize her is because I know she's much better than what she's been presenting herself to us lately. ;)
Coked Up Baby Boy - June 24, 2008 09:56 PM (GMT)
Seriously, don't even bother explaining it to her, you don't have to. She's no one and you'll just end up having an endless debate with her.
Anthony Kerty - June 24, 2008 09:58 PM (GMT)
Yeah, you're right, CUBB. I'm helping her ruining the thread, that's not good. Sorry, folks.
Lord Mike - June 24, 2008 10:03 PM (GMT)
Bad SBUK karma
Another day another drama
Alexz - June 24, 2008 10:36 PM (GMT)
Karen, Anthony and CUBB KEEP arguing? :lol:
I wonder when will Noles make his "intervention"?
Lord Mike - June 24, 2008 10:44 PM (GMT)
YOU SHOULD BE ON MEDS!
TAKE YOUR MEDS!
Naomi - June 24, 2008 10:53 PM (GMT)
Yes and I wonder when Alexz will leave all of that crap about Noles in the past, but he won't. You call him mentally ill etc. etc, but you won't let it go, so no wonder he has a go at you back!
I see what Karen is trying to point out to Anthony. Pity others aren't fully processing it and just seeing it as Karen fighting with them instead of her trying to put her point across.
Gosh, no wonder we aren't getting any new members with this sort of carry on.
Steve - June 24, 2008 11:08 PM (GMT)
Nice to see the threads going in the exact direction it was intended to avoid.
Naomi - June 24, 2008 11:10 PM (GMT)
erhm, yes well... :blush: Sorry on my part! :D
Karen - June 25, 2008 02:52 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Coked Up Baby Boy @ Jun 24 2008, 10:56 PM) |
| Seriously, don't even bother explaining it to her, you don't have to. She's no one and you'll just end up having an endless debate with her. |
This is yet another example of your incredible self-obsession. To say that ANYONE is "no one" is arrogant and offensive in the extreme. Do you think YOU are "someone" or are your views just as expendible as mine?
I'm grateful to Naomi for actually taking the trouble to read and understand what I'm trying to say here. You and Anthony just fire off your "I'll do whatever the f@ck I like and nobody's gonna stop me" replies without even thinking about the bigger picture.
Like SBUK and Steve, I would like this to be a fun, friendly forum that might have a chance of recruiting new members. In recent times it seems to have become a playground for three or four nasty individuals who don't care what kind of atmosphere they create so long as they can splatter the world with their outpourings of stinking crap.
Coked Up Baby Boy - June 25, 2008 03:10 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Karen @ Jun 25 2008, 02:52 AM) |
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| QUOTE ("Karen") |
| This is yet another example of your incredible self-obsession. To say that ANYONE is "no one" is arrogant and offensive in the extreme. Do you think YOU are "someone" or are your views just as expendible as mine? |
But you are no one to me, who the hell are you to me?.....you're just some chick online, i don't care about you, why the hell should i :rofl:? god get real.
You're the one telling people who they are allowed to talk about on here, not me, i'm not the one with a self obsession sweet cheeks, you are.
| QUOTE |
| I'm grateful to Naomi for actually taking the trouble to read and understand what I'm trying to say here. You and Anthony just fire off your "I'll do whatever the f@ck I like and nobody's gonna stop me" replies without even thinking about the bigger picture. |
I did read what you said, i just didn't agree. Does that make me a jerk or something? once again you expect people to ONLY hear your side and agree with you. Sorry, but it's not happening from my end.
| QUOTE |
| Like SBUK and Steve, I would like this to be a fun, friendly forum that might have a chance of recruiting new members. In recent times it seems to have become a playground for three or four nasty individuals who don't care what kind of atmosphere they create so long as they can splatter the world with their outpourings of stinking crap. |
Yes Karen, it's that dramatic, this place is just SO horrid and we are splattering the WORLD. Maybe the WORLD to you is the INTERNET, but for some of us we actually have lives beyond here, maybe if you did you wouldn't take this place so seriously.
Circles Karen, that's all you ever do, go around in circles. Everythings a battle, everything is so awful, everything isn't going your way, me, me, me. That's you in a nut shell.
Stay that way if you want, just don't expect everyone to care, or bend over backwards for you.
SBUK - June 25, 2008 07:31 AM (GMT)
Noles - June 26, 2008 11:51 PM (GMT)
Thank you SBUK!!! This is what we have needed for the longest time and I hope everyone is monitored closely. This will hopefully weed out certain members, who shall remain unnamed, and are only here to give SBUK a bad name/cause drama.
Karen please ignore CUBB. We all know what is really going on here so let the three strike rule take effect and let SBUK ban people for good.
Lord Mike - June 26, 2008 11:53 PM (GMT)
You're half the problem Noles
Noles - June 26, 2008 11:58 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Lord Mike @ Jun 26 2008, 07:53 PM) |
| You're half the problem Noles |
I already got a PM from SBUK and he knows I am not the only or half the problem! However, nice try in trying to get a "rise out of me" so I can get banned. Luckily I will ignore you, Anthony, Alex, and CUBBs instigative/rude posts. :D
I can't wait until July 1st so we can see who really is the problem here!
Alexz - June 27, 2008 01:14 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Lord Mike @ Jun 26 2008, 11:53 PM) |
| You're half the problem Noles |
I concur.