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Title: Beyond the 7th Book
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ladeeknight - October 24, 2007 03:04 AM (GMT)
So the very end of the book tells us that all our favorite characters live to the rip old age of... quick what's 17 + 19 years later? 36. And they seem to be basically happily pared off with kids. But what do you think happened in those intervening years.
For instance, Do you think Harry raised Teddy himself?
Was Teddy part werewolf after all and how do you think it reflected on the above question?
Do you picture Harry and Ginny sneaking off to have private wedding a la all those Hollywood Celebrities, or do you think they had a double ceremony with Ron and Hermione, with the whole wizarding world in attendance?
Where do you think Snape is burried?(Please answer this one, I'd really like to know.)

I don't think Harry raised Teddy himself. I think Tonk's mum probably did the primary care giving with Harry visiting often and being the cool God father.

I do think Teddy is part were wolf, just because that would be interesting.

I think it was a double wedding where at one point during the planning Ginny and Hermione had to be pulled apart as a viscious cat-fight ensues over wheather house-elve will serve appetizers.

I sure hope Snape is buried somewhere on Hogwarts grounds.

So answer my questions and pose your own. I thought it might be a fun way to get some closure. And they don't all have to be goofey like the ones I put. Maybe I am feeling full filled by the book because I don't even know what questions JKR didn't answer.

dreamdancer7699 - October 24, 2007 09:28 AM (GMT)
I always liked to think that Tonk's mom raised Teddy. After all she had lost everyone dear to her. Tonks and her dad in book 7. Both of her sisters and her family when she chose to be with Tonk's dad. I think it would be a lot cooler if Teddy was a metamorphagus than a werewolf. I would hate to think that he had the same awful curse that tortured his father all of his life. I have no idea about the weddings because since they werent Harry and Hermione getting married, I could really care less. :P As for Snape being buried, I highly doubt that he would be at Hogwarts. Dumbledore was the only Headmaster ever buried there, and he devoted a lot more of his life to the school than Snape ever did. I woud like to think though that maybe Harry allowed Snape to buried in Godric's Hollow on the other side of Lily, or at least close to her as a bestfriend should be, especially in those circumstances.

Lethal Ink - October 24, 2007 01:53 PM (GMT)
I don't know that Harry and Ginny would have got married right off as Ginny is still only sixteen at the time of the Battle of Hogwarts. Ron and Hermione might have waited as well--there are a lot of funerals to get out of the way first, and I doubt they'd want their day spoiled by all the grief. Not that a wedding wouldn't lift moods, but Lupin's an old friend, Tonks is a cousin of the Weasleys (I don't reacall the exact relationship right now), and then there's Fred. I don't know if Molly could handle Ron getting married on top of all of that.

I would think that Harry did raise Teddy--that's what godparents do, afterall--with constant help from Tonks's mom... two AM feedings and changing diappers aint exactly fighting dragons and dark lords; Harry'd be a bit far out of his element. (Then again, there might be some handy spell... okay, now I'm just dreaming.) I'm sure Teddy's grandmother was a constant presence in his life. I mean, Harry's an Auror and Ginny's a professional quidditch player; they're surely going to have frequent need of a babysetter.

Like Dreamy, I doubt that Teddy was a werewolf. I know ordinary rules don't necessarily apply in the wizarding world, but if lycanthropy is passed throught the bite of a werewolf, that would make it a kind of infection rahter than a genetic trait. Perhaps if the mother were a werewolf, there could be some mixing of the blood durring birth, but I don't see a werewolf father passing the trait to his children (I did my postgrad work in viroligy and epidemiology, so this is kinda my area of expertise). The genetic inheritance concept has already been introduced through magical bloodlines, so I doubt I'm far off the mark.

Questions? Most of mine are of the philosophical nature or about missing backstory (especially in light of Jo's recent revelation), neither of which will probably ever be answered. Here's one though:

Voldemort hears a prophecy that leads him to believe Harry will kill him, so he tries to Avada Kedavra Harry, but the curse backfires and kills Voldy instead. He's got some Horcruxes stashed away, so he survives his physical death and is reborn 14 years later. He has Harry in his grip, tries the Avada Kedavra again, and his wand goes wonky. Harry again escapes. A year later, he again has Harry pinned down in his sights, and again uses the 'ol Avada Kedavra, but a statue comes to life and blocks the curse. Two years pass. Voldy is flying after Harry, fires... guess what... Avada Kedavra. His own wand again betrays him. Finally, with the Deathstick in hand and Harry kneeling before him, Voldemort fires another Avada Kedavera, killing the boy and giving himself a massive headache. But just as he's celebrating his victory, it turns out that Harry is not dead after all. He and Harry face off. Wands a the ready. He has this one final chance after all his failed attempts. What's the one spell that will be Harry's undoing? 'Hmmmm,' Voldemort thinks, 'Avada Kedavra's only failed me six times. A maybe the seventh time is the charm.'

I say all that to say this: for beign a terribly powerful dark lord and all, why was Voldemort such an idiot? (It's good that he was, of course; I'm just sayin...)

ladeeknight - October 24, 2007 03:59 PM (GMT)
I think Voldemort didn't change his tactics because evil doesn't grow and learn. I mean his character is pretty much all about being stuck as a 12 year old bully. And he believes his that death is the worst thing that can happen to someone so he uses that spell constantly against the person he hates the most.

I didn't think they'd all get married right away. I doubt Hermione would think that sensible at all.

I am glad you two don't think Teddy would be a wereworlf. You're right Dream, he'd probably end up a metamorph. I am just sick and believe the worst if the worst would make things interesting.

Did I miss something at the end of the book? Did it say Ginny will be a professional Quitditch player or is that your own idea Leathal? It's a good one. I like it a lot better than what I had imagined, her being a mom like Mrs. Weasley.

What about Neville and Luna? My theory is that since we know Neville goes on to teach at Hogwarts that Luna teaches there taking over Care of Magical Creatures when Hagrid retires.

doratheauror - October 25, 2007 03:21 AM (GMT)
I like that idea about Luna! I read somewheres that JK said that Neville marries Hannah Abbott (who is coincidentally the new landlady at the Leaky Cauldron) and they live there. I thought that that was cool. On the subject of Teddy, I don't know if people remember but when Lupin goes to Bill's and Fleurs and announces that he was born, he had said that Teddy's hair had already begun changing colors, just like Tonk's had when she was born, so I think he's like his mom not his dad and I always just assumed that he was raised by Andromeda not Harry, but Harry kind of being to Teddy like Sirius was (or how harry always hoped that he would have been like if he'd had the chance) to Harry. I always did wonder how long it was after the war that everyone got married, it was just a thing that was always in the back of my head.

Twilight - October 25, 2007 04:17 AM (GMT)
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... why was Voldemort such an idiot?

Voldemort isn't totally stupid. He thinks and schemes a lot, but he tends to focus on the wrong things. He becomes convinced that it's his wand that's the problem, and he becomes totally focused on wands. Lateral thinking, or "thinking outside the box" (I hate that cliche!) are definitely not his thing.

As for burials, I think they ought to break with tradition and let everyone who died in the Battle of Hogwarts be buried on the school grounds, if their families wish it. Sure, it's unusual for anyone to be buried at Hogwarts (there was even some resistance in DD's case), but it's also unusual for the staff and students to die for Hogwart's. They were Dumbledore's men (and women) to the end, and they should be buried near DD unless their families have other plans. And since Harry cleared Snape's name, we know that at least they won't leave him out for the thestrals.

ladeeknight - October 25, 2007 04:52 AM (GMT)
I love your idea Twilight! And if not having the bodies be intered at Hogwarts there should be a memorial there too them. Think how much of the castle had to be rebuilt. They could definately put in a war memorial. The idea of having Snape buried at Hogwarts was not mine, but when you think about what he risked to keep the school quasi safe while it was under Voldemort's reign I think he deserves to be buried there, although he would probably rather be buried near Lily as Dream suggested. I don't know if Harry could stomach that. Harry seemed to come to terms with a lot of his Snape issues after he saw the last memeories, but there was a lot of hate there. I would say that is the only point where Harry was totally incapable of compassion or forgivness, mostly because Snape never gave those things to him.
Who do you guys think will become the next Minister of Magic? Do you think Percy ever makes it to the top spot? I kind of like to think that he does.

alrerretta - October 25, 2007 05:17 AM (GMT)
Well I haven't read all the post here but I think I'll put in my two cents.

I think Teddy is part werewolf but only to the extent of liking his meat very rare. I also think that he may have a little of his moms ablitly to change the way he looks but only a part at a time.

As for Snape I think that he got buried in godrick's hollow cause after all Harry did give his son Albus Snape's name for his middle and what he said to Albus just before Albus got on the train for Hogwarts. I also think that Tonk's mom might have moved in with Harry so she could help out with little Teddy, after all he is all the family she has left.

Lethal Ink - October 25, 2007 11:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ladeeknight @ Oct 24 2007, 10:59 AM)
Did I miss something at the end of the book? Did it say Ginny will be a professional Quitditch player or is that your own idea Leathal? It's a good one. I like it a lot better than what I had imagined, her being a mom like Mrs. Weasley.

I believe Jo mentioned in an interview somewhere that Ginny became a seeker for the Hollyhead Harpies, but retired after a few years to be a full time mom.

ladeeknight - October 26, 2007 02:09 AM (GMT)
You're right Alfie! How could I forget. I found it so touching that Harry named his son after Snape that I totally cried for like ten minutes. So maybe Harry did let Snape lie next to Lilly. That is a pleasant thought for me. I like Snape's character so much. He was one of the very best ones in my opinion.
I ought to listen more for these little tid bits I love so much because I had not heard that JKR had said that about Ginny's career.
So what about headmaster and DADA teachers? Anyone like to hazard a guess who they are in the near and far future?
McGonagall would be my choice for near future of corse. And I kinda alway thought that Harry would one day retire from being an Auror and teach DADA. He really was a good teacher and seemed to enjoy it. And well...I think he would make a good headmaster some day. But hey that's just my mind wandering off.

hot - December 8, 2007 10:58 PM (GMT)
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For instance, Do you think Harry raised Teddy himself?

No I don't think he did. I think maybe he had Teddy for a little while, but in the end Mrs. Tonks raised him.
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Was Teddy part werewolf after all and how do you think it reflected on the above question?

I'm not sure about this one. We already know that he's a metamorphamagus, but can you have a werewolf/metamorphamagus? I think it would be kind of interesting if it were true though.
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Do you picture Harry and Ginny sneaking off to have private wedding a la all those Hollywood Celebrities, or do you think they had a double ceremony with Ron and Hermione, with the whole wizarding world in attendance?

I think they probably did a double wedding. Though it probably wasn't the entire wizarding community. Family and friends.

Dana Lynn - March 3, 2008 02:44 AM (GMT)
I agree with Dreamy about Snape being buried at Godrics Hollow. I think that would be so cool if he was buried there beside or even near Lily. And I have always wondered what happened to Hagrid and Professor McGonagall? And did George Weasley continue on with the business him and Fred started? What does Draco do for a living? And I would like to know what happened to Luna also. And who would be headmaster of Hogwarts after Professor McGonagall retired? So many questions!!!

~Twylie_Wylie~ - August 17, 2008 05:41 AM (GMT)
I know all about what happened to Luna Lovegood.She became a famous natrulist for discovering new magical animals and married fellow natrulist the grandson of Newt Scamander,Rolf Scamander.they had twin boys which they named Lorcan and Lysander.

Ez-Bake oven - August 17, 2008 10:05 PM (GMT)
How do you no that happened to Luna?

And It did say in the 7th book that teddys hair was turning colors like teal... and stuff like that... and Lupin is the one who said it... at Bill and Flurs

Not sure about the rest though...

~Twylie_Wylie~ - August 18, 2008 05:57 AM (GMT)
I searched it.I went onto some Harry Potter lexicon so to me its just common knowledge lol

Henry Bridge - August 25, 2008 03:32 PM (GMT)
Ya I agreee, Snape should be burried by Lilly. Hmmm.......ya I was also wondering about Hagrid and Mcgonnagall. Maybe they got married. Wouldn't that be cool? Haha. I think it would be funny, I also wouldn't be shocked.




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