Petunia has always bugged me. She's mean to Harry and nasty, she's also Lily's sister. But there seems to be more to her than meets the eye. She's definitely jealous of her sister. But I get the feeling that she knows more about the magical world than she's letting on. But what exactly? I don't think she has magical powers but hmmm...your thoughts?

I don't think she's magic eithier... But maybe she USED to be really fond of her sister or something and when she died/got murdered, Petunia got really sad... And then mad because of it and that's why she's so mean?? It'll probubly all be explained in book7 *cries because it's the last book*

I think Petunia ans Lily where very close but they may have had a disagreement like most sisters do and Lily accidently did something to Petunia and they never had a chance to make up.

I also think that she blames Harry for her sisters untimely death, that is why she treats Harry the way she does.

Then we think of Vernon he likes things to be so called normal, when a woman gets married she wants her husband happy so she will keep her mouth shut and make his live as comfortable as she can.

That's my thoughts for what it is worth.

SHE IS PART OF SOME HORRIBLE CONSPIRACY!! Don't ask me what about though because I have no idea . . . something to do with DD though cause they were totally pen pals (or quill pals to DD at least) after all.

Hey Shonk what do you mean DD? who or what is that.

Yeah Shonk means Dumbledore...

Or maybe that could be it! Plotting to kill off all the witches and wizards and keeping all the cookies for themselfs!!!

Yeah... She probubly wants to kill all the wizardz/witchez off and keep the title of one for herself trying to make everyone scared and vulnerable. But if that is true... She won't get far... Especially not with a Wizard living in her own house... Harry'd probubly hex her or something... *Shrugs*

I might be wrong..but it could be that Petunia is actually an expelled witch (which would explain her knowledge of the wizarding world. eg..Dementors....

Thats one reason why she hates magic so much as she sees harry as what she could have been.......and what she now will never be...

(Why should he have what I can never have sort of attitude)


Secondly...because Vernon hates magic so much, Petunia would of course not want to be part of the Wizarding world..or in this case have anything to do with Harry (for fear of looking bad in her husbands eyes)..so she does what she thinks would make her look better in Vernons eyes...be nasty to Harry.


The news of Dumbledores death however, should be enough to break her...we shall see

If harry tells his Aunt and Uncle about Dumbledores death Petunia might break down and tell Harry and her family the true reason she doesn't like Harry, and if she can do magic she may try to help Harry to save her husband and son.

If she doesn't have magic she migght try to get Harry to stay with them thinking the those that protect Harry will protect them.

There are so many ways that Petunia can go, then again she may not show up in the book but in the first page or 2 only time will tell.

I don't think Petunia can do magic. I think that maybe you guys have an idea there about she and Lily being close as kids, only because whenever someone insults Lily in front of her, she clams up and doesn't encourage them to continue. I think that the day her parents found out that Lily was a witch, Petunia felt completely left out and became embittered. I wouldn't be surprised if Petunia told Harry that he wasn't welcome to come back once she learns that DD is dead. After all, it was only her fear of him, that made her keep Harry all those years. I think it will Dudley who has some magical ability. It's perfect kharma for Vernon since he HATES anything magical, but LOVES his Dudders so much. I also think it will be him, because he did see the dementor which muggles supposedly cant do.

The thing between Lily and Petunia, what if they were really close, but their parents thought that it was going to be Petunia instead of Lily that went to Hogwarts? And then when Lily got her letter and Petunia didn't that Petunia resented and eventally hated the thought of anything magical? And where is Lily and Petunias parents now? Did they die or what? So many questions left unanswered it makes me frustrated! lol

And about Dudley....could he still be something of a wizard even if he didn't get a letter from Hogwarts at age 11? I thought that Wizards and witches were detected when they were of a young age? And plus he hasn't done anything at all to show the existence of any special abilites at all. I really think Dudley is going to continue being a Dud. LoL

Dudley saw the Dementor. Only magical folk can see them. Also JKR has said that someone we don't think has magical abilities will show some or something like that. I think good ole Dudders might be a bit of a Squib.

Well as I remember Dudders didn't see the dementers he just felt the effects of them.

But Petunia knows quite a lot about the magical world and I would think that would be something to look at.

We all know that Lily's family where muggles so we might be in for a real suprise, what if Vernin is the one with the powers we don't know about?

wouldn't that be a twist?

That would definately be a big twist, but what would his reason be for his strong hate for the wizarding world? Would it just be because of how Petunia feels or what?

Well maybe a distant relitive was a wizard and he is just a squib, you know him and his sister. That could be the reason why Margery didn't get too upset by the fact of the glass breaking in her hand. Do you remember that she said it had happened to her before she came to te Dursley's house, at the house of the military guy. Maybe she made him mad and he made the glass break on her before she left.

Maybe she knows wizards and doesn't know it. if she is a squib maybe she hate magic as much as patunia.

Maybe Vernin has hidden it from them both cause he loves his sister and Patunia so much.Or he don't want them to feel bad and get made at him.

I don't know but it is something to think about, right?

Yeah thats true, it is definately something to think about. The only non magical people that we know about that are main characters are the Dursleys, and his sister Marge. So yeah that was awesome for you to point out!

I've been thinking for sometime that it will be Dudley who will perform some type of magic! Actually the comment Dumbledore made in HBP, about the torture his parents have done to that poor boy! I think he knows and Petunia confided in him and the torture is not allowing him to be a wizard!!

PETUNIA IS GOING TO RULE THE WORLD!!!

*runs away*

Once Harry turns 17 and the protection is lifted from the house she may be ruling the AFTERWORLD!! That is if Voldemort wants finish of the rest of Harrys relatives!

i read an interview with jk rowling and she said that (spoiler alert) petunia will not do magic and that there is great significance that harry has his mothers eyes. now THERE is something to think about!!!!

Yeah i've heard that before about Petunia not being the one that performs magic! I really curious to read what's up with Harry having his mothers eye!!

THe eye thing comes down to genetics.. dominate vs regressive genes.. Yes harry has his dad's looks except for his eyes.. WE never knew what color Eyes James had right? SO to say he has his mothers eyes means that her eye color is probably more dominate than his fathers eye color. Now I believe Petunia knows things she isnt letting on. FOr instance she probably knows alot about the magical world due to Lily being a witch but Petunia will have the protection of Harry.. My question is will the protection that was placed on the house still be there now that Dumbledore is dead? I know love is a acient magic but what did dumbledore do to the house wouldnt that stop happening kinda like 12 Grimwald being plottable once Sirius died if the house was unable to be left to Harry.

In HBP Dumbledor says to the Dursleys that once Harry turns 17, which is a man in the Wizarding world the magical protection lifts from the house. He requests that he be allowed to return to the house, which is called his home once more before he turns 17. I don't think he would have put a spell of protection on Harry that was dependant on him being alive!! Also since Rowling says the fact that Harry has is mothers eyes is important, would mean it has a little more significance than it being about dominant genes!

yeah, it does seem all different now that ive read the 7th book. now i know whats up with petunia. and in the beginning, i never would of thought that dudly would say that, amazing, and then petunia reacted so weirdly to it! i think she even regreded what had to happen to them. im not spoiling anything for you guys though, sorry

I think that Petunia is just a jealous person and Harry is getting the blunt end of it all. We who have read the 7th book know why she is jealous toward her sister. Well,I think she is just taking it out on Harry now. I also think she knows a little about the magical world,because of coarse her sister was a witch there. Those are my opinion,but on the whole eyes thing I have no clue! :P

It all comes down to jealousy and frustrated desire to be special. If Petunia could just think herself half as special as she thinks her son is she would be ok. But she doesn't think she's special which is why i think she spoils her son to death. I feel sorry for her being caught in her sister's shadow. And now we all know that Snape really pissed her off by reading her rejection letter. I think she held that against Lily for a long time. I almost want to believe that she really did love her sister and that she blames harry for her death and that is why she is so mean to him, because i hate to think she really hates her own sister. But what i think it really is, is that she's sees Harry as Lily (blessed with magic) and Dudley as herself (passed over). Of corse this is subconcious.

On a side note: does anybody know who it was who did magic for the first time. I've read the last book twice now and I didn't notice the newbie.

Wow we called it with the whole Lily and Petunia being close and Petunia feeling left out when Lily was accepted. Was anyone else as blown away as I was to hear of Lily and Snape's connection though? I mean talk about out of left field! That memory of James, Lily and Snape took on a whole different shape once we found out about how Lily and Snape were bestfriends and he loved her. How sad that he was so caught up in belonging to a crowd of prejudiced people that we would throw away his most precious relationship. :( You would think he would have treated Harry better since he was all he had left of Lily, instead of seeing him as all that was left of James. PFFT.

JKR certainly hid the Lily-and-Snape connection until the last possible moment. A lot of fans speculated about it (and about all kinds of other crazy ideas), but there was no real evidence for it in any of the books until it was suddenly revealed near the end of DH. I think it would have been more fun if JKR had dropped a few more clues along the way.

As for Petunia, it's sad that she never got over her jealousy and hurt about not being a witch, and not being able to attend Hogwarts. And because she of that, she was miserable, she made things miserable for Harry, and she also hurt Dudley by spoiling him rotten and teaching him to despise Harry (and probably anyone else who was different from the Dursleys in any way).

I guess the lesson is that most of us experience major disappointments in our lives, often through no fault of our own, but we should try not to let jealousy ruin out lives.

Good point and nicely said! You are so right about Petunia making other people's lives more miserable as well as her own because she couldn't let go. It's so sad really. of course with a husband like Vernon, it might be hard to be happy (LOL), but they did seem to love each other. When you think about Vernon must have been a pretty open-minded guy after all in order to believe and still want Petunia after she told him that there were witches and wizards in the world. :P

Wow guys you didn't see the Snape Lily thing coming? I so saw it. I figured that was why he was such an :censored: to Harry, and why he hated James so much. I mean he hated him. I thought it was jealousy all along. and when you see him pleading with Lily after what Harry saw in the pensive about him, that was the memory he most wanted to keep from Harry I knew it was because he had always loved Lily and i figured that was why Dumbledore trusted him. I am not all that surprised that Snape felt hated Harry and viewed him as part of James. How would you feel if you looked into the eyes of your true love, but they were surrounded by the face of your enemy, so one who constantly went out of their way to humiliate you. You might not be able to get over it either. Especially if you feel responsible for your love's death. Snape hated himself more than he did Harry and the I think that is why he forbid Dumbledore to tell anyone why he could be trusted. [FONT=Arial][FONT=Arial][FONT=Arial]

I considered the Snape-and-Lily possibility at times prior to DH, but I just couldn't believe it because I couldn't find any evidence for it. Silly me!

As you point out, it explains so many things. I should have seen it. And now that I know, I'm fascinated by it. Snape may have hated James and therefore Harry, but most of all he hated himself. And he never managed to see Lily in Harry until, possibly, his dying moment when he looks into Harry's eyes. How tragic!