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DRAKE - September 10, 2006 03:06 AM (GMT)
Well I got a question for you. As most of you now I'm Bi and I was wondering if you guys think that same sex marraige should be legalized. If you vote please post and say why. I vote yes, of coures. I say yes because I have no problem with gay relationships. Me being in one before. Why shouldn't Gay people have the same rights as straight for marraige?

IlovDanielRadcliffe - September 10, 2006 03:51 AM (GMT)
Ok first off I dont want my opinion to offend anyone ok this is just me and what i think, no bahsing please.

Ok NO I dont why? Cause one I'm a chirstain, and it clearly states in the bible same sex marriges are WRONG! Plus the site of girls kissing girls is not exaclty what I like to see...

BUT I have NOOO problem with gay/Lesbian people though! I have friends that are Bi and Gay and I respect them! Just beucase they have diffent feelings dosn't mean I would judge them!! I mean look at your Drake your a great person being bi and so is Talon hes a wonderful friend in my opinion! I have nothing agianst him and his belives! :)

*sighs* K done....

ChaserG456 - September 10, 2006 04:00 AM (GMT)
Ok as Britt said please please please don't get mad at me this is just my opinion.

Ok no I don't agree with same sex marrieges because my religion goes agaisn't it. However even though I don't support it I do respect other people choices because that's their decision. But I have absolutely no problem gay/lesbian/bi people! They're like everyone else no matter their sexuality is.

DRAKE - September 10, 2006 04:04 AM (GMT)
Thank you very mutch Britt and Richela. I realy upresate the fact that you posted your true opinion. That is exactly Y I started this poll. To find out what other people think about thing. I am not mad at eather of you. You should meet my friend Jessica she would have a whole lot to say on this. :P

REMY-SALINAS - September 10, 2006 04:18 AM (GMT)
Remy

aha here i come across a touchy subject to many but for me it is a simple one do i think gay people should have the same rights that heterosexual people do YES i do because they are no different than any other person so why shouldn't they be given the same rights as any one else. How would it be if they passed a law sayin only white people were allowed to be married oh no we can't have that can we there would be marches all over the place but talk about two guys or two girls getting married and everyone is all ok with taking there civil liberties away. Now i am not gay but i have absolutely no problem with two gay people getting married just as i have no problem with two people of different races getting married to me it is like this if it is not gonna have anything to do with me then let it be. I mean it's not like the gay couple are gonna come into your house every night and make out in front of you. This is suppose to be the land of Equality but this just shows that some people in our country are more equal than others

dreamdancer7699 - September 10, 2006 04:19 AM (GMT)
I voted yes that I believe that same sex marriage should be legal and here is why. I believe that marriage is when 2 people love each other and want to make a commitment to each other, in front of their families and friends, and to whatever god that they believe in. I believe that every person in this world deserves the chance to be able to do that. A gay couple that loves each other and wants to spend their lives together, will do so whether they can be legally married or not. What do I care? It does not affect me at all if 2 women or men want to love each other for the rest of their lives. It does nothing to affect my life and my choices. I do not think that it is fair, that a man and a woman can get married and be able to share health insurance, and get tax write offs, and be able to make legal decisions for each other, and that 2 people of the same sex, who also share a home, and have been together for 15 years cannot legally have the same rights. To me...that's a bunch of B.S.! But.....I can have this opinion. I live in a country that allows me to say what I want about it, and I am not a Christian, so my faith doesn't hinder me from agreeing with it either. Faith is a powerful thing, and for those among us who's religions forbid them to be able to accept same sex marriages, SO WHAT! They have a right to their beliefs. And at least they believe in something! At least they know their morals and can come out here and openly give their own opinions. I sincerely hope that no one would be upset with them, since I don't see any of them being upset with us for having a different opinion than their beliefs.

DRAKE - September 10, 2006 04:31 AM (GMT)
Thank you very mutch Remy and Dream. I very happy that you voted and replied and gave good resons. I do not like you any more than I do with Britt and Richela. I think it is great that you can not agree with your friends and just say what you feal. I personaly think it is very hard for some gay couples to be happy together without some one in their lives not helping them by saying that their beliefs are wrong. It is very sad when people do that. You might hear this from most homosexual people , but it is not their chose to be gay/lesbain. You are geneticaly born like that and have no control over it. They can choose how ever to pretend to be straight for their family/religuis sake. I think that is wrong that they should have to do that because some hetrosexual/religuis people say it isn't illegal or right. I have no problem with them saying that. That is what they believe in. Its just they have to let us believe in are thing.

ChaserG456 - September 10, 2006 04:44 AM (GMT)
I do not in any way say that their beliefs are wrong. I just say my beliefs and if people don't like it oh well. If two guys or two women were to get married I wouldn't get mad, sure I wouldn't like it but I'd respect just the same. And I know it's not a choice, you are genetacally born like that just like straight peole are genetacally born straight. And I think it'd be wrong to pretend you're not, that's how you were born and you'd be lying to yourselves and the other person in a relationship and that wouldn't be fair to them. But eitherways I'm still not for same sex marrieges.

TwistedLogic-05 - September 10, 2006 12:29 PM (GMT)
Well i was raised a christian aswell, but i think all that stuff in the bible about same sex marriages being wrong, is wrong, i mean its basically discrimination in the bible (o'course i've lost most of my faith in the bible a long time ago) They are not different then straight people, and shouldn't be treated otherwise, so gay marriages should be legal

Ginny_potter - September 10, 2006 03:34 PM (GMT)
Its legal over here already ;) and i think its awsome my moms best mate is gay and he has just got married, i went to the wedding it was awsome.

TwistedLogic-05 - September 10, 2006 05:28 PM (GMT)
coolio, it became legal on my birthday actually, i think anyways

Meridae - September 11, 2006 12:04 AM (GMT)
I voted yes as well. For personal reasons. I don't believe it's right to discrimate or judge anyone for any reason. We all have our opinion on what's "normal", yet if everyone was "normal" in this world today, it wouldn't be any fun. (Not to say life is always fun, but..yeah..) That probably doesn't even relate. *shrugs* As dream, and probably a few other people already said, nothing should be judged when it comes to love. As I have just recently found out, thanks to a few friends pointing it out, love doesn't have a preference. Love is.. love. And doesn't care what two bodies it happens to interact with. We, as humans have a preference..and base our thoughts and feelings, most of the time, off of what's right or wrong in our head. ..Err sorry, that's probably going off on a tangent.

Anyways, even though marriage isn't something that I want, I have no problem with gay/lesbian couples getting married, being together, whatnot. Besides.. I love when gay guys are together, they're so cute o.O It's just that.. the world today seems to be so stereotypical. And some humans, will always feel the need to feel superior to others. It just so happens, unfortunetly, as for right now, for those certain kind of people... if you're gay, they're going to use that right on the stop to feel superior to you.

..Tangent again. Sorry, I have to break that habit *mutters*

DRAKE - September 11, 2006 09:08 PM (GMT)
Wow I forgot that in England it is legal. Well here in the U.S.A. its not. Stupid Americans <_< Em it is realy cool that your mom's best friend just had a gay marrage. It would have been sweet to be there. I hope they are happy together. Lots of replies. Nice. Meridea thanks for voting and posting your opinion. You to NIc and Em.

crossy - September 12, 2006 09:45 AM (GMT)
Hi,

I voted that yes it should be legal. Inm my opinion if you oove someone that is all there is to it.


Sardine - September 12, 2006 02:21 PM (GMT)
I think it's unfair if you love someone who's the same sex as you and you want to get married, but then you arent allowed to. So no, I dont have a problem with it. I have a couple gay friends and they're friendly and they're just like normal people. While it can be gross, i dont have a thing against it.
And I also think it's great if married gay couples want to adopt children! It shows that men do care and they're giving a child a home. Now, if they abuse the child it's a whole other story!
But nope, nothing against it.

Shonk Da 'Onk - September 14, 2006 09:13 AM (GMT)
May I ask why you think it's gross?

Anyway . . . I definately don't have anything against gays and whatever. I have a few gay and bi friends and they are just like all my other mates so we treat them different or have different rules that apply to them.

Sardine - September 14, 2006 09:20 AM (GMT)
I never said it is gross, just that it can be...

Anyhow, i think it's good to have gay and bi friends, cause it shows that they're the same as everyone else and such. Heck, last year the one music teacher at my school looked and acted gay... we arent sure if he is though... but apparently he was a good teacher (we didnt have him for music).

Professor Rogue - September 15, 2006 08:46 AM (GMT)
I voted no.


QUOTE (DRAKE @ Sep 9 2006, 10:06 PM)
As most of you now I'm Bi and I was wondering if you guys think that same sex marraige should be legalized. If you vote please post and say why. I vote yes, of coures. I say yes because I have no problem with gay relationships. Me being in one before. Why shouldn't Gay people have the same rights as straight for marraige?

I'm just a little disappionted on how this topic started out. Drake, this is a very heated/debated topic and I wished that you would have talked to be privately before stating this thread. Just so you could have communicated with me on how you were going to start this debate. I didn't know that you were bi and that's perfectly fine, I look at you no different than before. But I was just alittle uncomfortable about you starting off the topic announcing that.

Just please keep this in mind for heated debates like this. Becuase for another reason, we already have a thread on this, but because this was made into a poll I'm not going to merge it.

Thanks.

Jasonlw - September 15, 2006 07:51 PM (GMT)
I Think YES!

Since..... Some of my firneds are Bi's and Gay's. I look at them as if they were no differ. Some Day i for get you bio and gay, because i don't look in people that way. And Bio's and Gay are just like any other person! Do they are 15 more toes than we do? do they have 3 eyes? do they have 1 other brain then us? No, so.... I THINK YES!

And Personaly not to offen anyone, I think Being Bio, and Gay has something to do with your Genes. But Hey, I don't Know!

DRAKE - September 15, 2006 08:44 PM (GMT)
I am very sorry Reg. I didn't think about it when I started it, and plainly I didn't now this convo would be so hot. I think I will go edit the bigging post and fix it so it sounds better. Next time I will defently come to you firts. I'm suprised you didn't know I was gay.

Anyways....Thank you Sardine and Shonks for posting your decsion. your right Jase it does have to do with your genes.
I had to edit this. I forgot you Crossy thanks.

Jasonlw - September 15, 2006 09:45 PM (GMT)
It DOES! I Do learn stuff from degrassi!


I thought It had to do with genes, thats what my sicence techers said last year... But i was half sleep when she said it....

Talon Rivieras - September 15, 2006 10:32 PM (GMT)
Christian people don't assassinate me for this but just incase you feel like it, I am christian too.

I think same sex marriages should be allowed because I have one thing to say.... God, you made us this way, if you wanted our deoxyribonucleic acid to have been different, than do something about it. Give us a sign.

afigirlafi - September 30, 2006 07:41 PM (GMT)
drake
kudos to you for opening up this topic. in my opion i think that is very unhuman and unfair to love a person with you whole life and not be able to get married just beacue you are the same sex. everyone on this planet has a right to happiness and if you are bi or gay i think that it is fine to marry the person you love. if it makes the couple happy why shoudln't tthey be allowed to marry. but i'm totally up for same sex marraige.

sailorleo - November 13, 2006 10:38 PM (GMT)
i think it was said best in Man of the Year, they have a right to be miserable just like everyone else! lol.....i don't mean that harshly.....my two best friends are gay and they're awsomeness, and if anyone wanted to get married i'd totally support that! :) Mozeltov!

Twilight - November 14, 2006 03:26 AM (GMT)
My only brother is gay, and he recently got married to his long-time sweetheart. I was the flower girl. They were so happy! And I was so happy for them!

mj - November 16, 2006 03:37 PM (GMT)
I think it should be allowed! I think if two people love each other they should be allowed to be togethere! I think it's awesome to see two people in love being togethere no matter what sex they are. Just seeing them togethere and in love is awesome for me! I think it should be allowed, I REALLY REALLY DO!!!

flightofphoenix_fan - November 16, 2006 05:28 PM (GMT)
Personally, I think that its their choice. Who gives us the right to take that away from them. They are human also. I say all the power to them!!! :lol:

Kitty - November 17, 2006 04:17 PM (GMT)
I say yes because I believe if two people love each other, they should be able to prove it to the world, without having to snog in public. I mean, even if you're straight...unless you're Tom and Katie you don't want to do that...

Intricate Logic - November 9, 2007 01:49 PM (GMT)
I said yes, because, you know what? as long as you're happy, it doesn't really matter who you're with. I find no reason at all that gay people sohuld be denied the right to get married. They are people too.

Lethal Ink - November 26, 2007 08:37 PM (GMT)
Here in the U.S. of A. the biggest argument against gay marriage is always of a religious nature. I think Thomas Jefferson said it best: my right to swing my fist ends where your face begins. Yes, we are all entitled to our own personal beliefs. However, the freedom to practice those beliefs should not extend so far as to prevent someone else from practicing theirs.

Another thing that annoys me is the argument that gay marriage 'undermines the institute of marriage.' How? Is it more undermining than a skyrocketing divorce rate, or prenuptual agreements? We're talking about a country where people have legaly married their pets (and, in one case, even a pick-up truck) in order to keep their spouses from inheriting anything.

pyrii - November 27, 2007 01:24 PM (GMT)
Like Leo, I have several gay friends, and I fully support the idea and the fact of gay marriage. I don't see why people complain about it, especially because of how little marriage seems to mean to people these days.

Marriage is not only a expression of one's undying love for another, but it is also a legal means of looking after your loved ones. If you die, then all of your property needs to be divided up between your family , loved ones and other beneficiaries. If you can't be married to the person you love, then legally, they can be cheated when it comes to divvy up your possessions, as they can claim no relation to you.

I think that gay marriage should be supported, and legal in ALL the 50 states, and in other countries as well. For those who dislike the idea of gay marriage because of religious beliefs, go look up this stuff yourself. Your 'beliefs' that gay marriage is disallowed by the Bible are pretty lacking for evidence. Try here:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm


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ladeeknight - December 4, 2007 09:01 PM (GMT)
I voted yes and this is why: I may someday serve as a surigate mother for one of my best friend's and his boyfriend. They are awesome men and I would be happy to help them out by giving them the best gift they'll ever have, the chance to be fathers. And I hope that when that day comes they are married. Not out of some misguided belief that you need to be married to have children, but because I know that is what they want. To be equal. To have there way of life recognized and excepted as part of the norm. And I am not talking civil unions here folks. We learned with the segregation of schools that separate is not equal. As long as you are calling it something else you are branding it as alien, or other; a perversion of the real thing. Call it marriage and give gay people the same rights that straight people have.




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