She's not muggle-born or anything like that is she?! Why didnt he pick Hermione or something?! Sorry if this is a blonde question...

But really, ever think about this? Is there some reason why Tom chose Ginny, a member of the Weasly house? Is this forshadowing something perhaps?

well, it wasn't really tom that chose ginny. it was lucuis malfoy. he was the one that slipped the diary into her cauldron or another book or what it was. when ginny started pouring her heart out to the diary - especially since it involved harry - tom saw a chance and took it. she was also of course a very good target because she was insecure, shy and deeply in love with harry :) easy to break! voldemort wouldn't have such an easy time with her anymore!

Good point! why did he chose ginny? I think it might be because he knew that if it was ginny, then harry would definatly come to rescew her. Just a guesse

I agree with lots of Bianca's points. First, Ginny was closely in relation to Harry. Her brother is only Harry's best friend! He had to "choose" someone who Harry would feel compelled to save, right? :) Also, she was very suseptable (sp?) at the time. Vulnerable enough to pour her soul out to a diary.

1 it was lucius malfoy.and 2 i think he had to choose som1 who harry would definitely rescue, but it couldnt be anyone really close to harry becuz he wouldve noticed if they were acting weird. thats what i think :lol:

I was thinking about this the other day. But I never reached a conclusion. And I agree as posted above, he picked someone that Harry wanted to save. Because he said he wasn't after muggle-borns anymore, he was after harry. i still dont know why he picked ginny though. Cuz hermione is very close to harry. But maybe J.K. just wanted us to have to think a little about it and make it interesting and not something you would expect.

I think because Tom had a feeling that Harry cared for her may be more the a friend and knew that he would lure him in....

He didn't really choose herr. Or did he? Voldy could've told Lucius to slip it in her basket
So back to the question. I think it's because she was a very young unsure girl at the time. He didn't choose hermy because she would have been too smart to fall for it. Or maybe he just didn't trust muggle borns.I doubt that it has any greatly significant meaning tho, not any that i can think of at the moment anyway

Well, he probably chose her, because she was close to harry, and he probably knew that harry would stop at nothing to save her, hence the basilisk. She was also younger, which would make it easier to get her to do things. And what kind of guy, writes there deepest fears in a diary? I don't know any!! So even if it wasn't ginny, it would have been a girl anyway, but what other girl is close to harry? Hermione!! And hermione, is to smart to be fooled by a diary.

Yea I agree. I think he knew that Harry was close to the family, and having a vonrable female was a better choice then a male....

He also knew that Harry is toally into the hero kind of character to save someone, and he knew that he would totally go after her...

I know that if it was may be someone else he would have done the same, but not as percistent

But how could Tom know about Ginny? I mean he is in a book after all.

it could be Professor, but u have to see that tom did not choose ginny, lucius put the book in ginny's cauldron that was the only chance he had to make the dairy come into hogwarts. You might ask why not give it to harry, ron or hermione in some way but if he had given to them they would have told eachother which would make tom's work much difficult because they might stop themselves or their friends from writing into it. And they also stick together so that will make tom's work impossible. :)

:wacko: Or maybe it was just made like that just because there is no real answer b/c they would have told it and maybe it was b/c ginny was so easy to get to and someone volda knew harry would try to safe well the world may never know!

Yeah, if one of the three was acting weird, they would definatly notice. Besides they would probably tell each other about the diary, i mean they tell each other almost everything. So yes it would make his work impossible. And maybe in voldemort/lucius's opinion she was a silly little girl who could be easily fooled, and she was fooled.

but really, think about it. ginny was someone that ginny cared for, so he would want to save her. also, ginny cares about harry and thought she might help him. also ginny is a young girl, its her first year, so of course shes going to be vulnerable. plus shes going to have seen a lot of weird stuff, and a talking journal probably isnt at the top. so she probably thought it was normal. and who can blame her?

also, with her being new, she may have felt that the journal was her safe haven, her place to feel wanted...

but another question no ones asked yet, when harry had the book, why didnt tom riddle just make harry have a black out, go open the chamber of secrets, and get caught???? and how could ginny have opened the chamber? she doesnt speak parseltongue....

Didn't Tom say in the Chamber of Secrets that he wanted Harry's trust? I also got the feeling from Tom that, as much as he love's results, he likes to play games too. He likes to toy with his pray before the end.

And the 2nd question. . . With Tom possesing Ginny I think that made her able to speak parseltongue, because it was really Tom speaking it from inside Ginny.

Yeah, like she said Tom probably wanted to toy with him. And i bet he didn't expect harry to be able to survive the basilisk, i mean really a huge snake that can feel you moving, to big for stunning spells, armed with only a sword. Yeah, and since Tom could speak parseltongue, it was probalby him. Then he made her write those things on the walls and stuff. Also, like it said in one of the books, there were periods of time when she wouldn't know where she was, or how she got there.

but if LV (tom) liked toying with people before they killed them then why did he kill harrys parents instantly. and all those other people why did he play with ginny and harry, they just monoluging over and over agian. :jumpsmile: :firedevil: :tv: :jerry:

Well, maybe he wanted harry to suffer and have like a slow and painful death, for surviving the first time he tried to kill him. And killing Ginny..wasn't that just to make him stronger? Like he said... "As ginny grows weaker, i grow stronger" was that just in the movie, or was it in the book? i can't remember.

i think it was in the book too, but still i think jk wants harry and ginny and ron and hermonie because if Tom (LV) liked toying with people then why didnt he toy eith every one else come on its obvuise!!!! :mellow: plus he choose ginny cuase she was nervouse and tense so she was easy to subdue, plus tom didnt chose ron becuase he was only a friend a relastionship runs deeper then that hermoinie no. cuase she is a friend tom didnt chose cho cause even though harry didnt kno it he had feelings for ginny not for cho.

or maybe becuase harrys friendship with ron was so strong that maybe ron would keep eurging to keep trying to get his sister back, and becuase ginny was a good friend to muggles (mudbloods) then no one would sespect her and she was so quite and keepy to her self....

I think He chose Ginny 'cause he knew Harry was bound to save her.

That is very true. Harry would be less likely to rescue someone he didn't even know. I mean risk your life for a stranger..he might do it, but tom wanted to be sure that he would come to save whoever he captured, otherwise there would have been no point in it at all.

plus what would the weaslys think of harry if he didnt try to save her????? or we might be stressing our selfs when really J.K. Rowling jus t chose at random?

I don't think she chose at random...in these books, there's usually a reason for things like this.

hey im just trying to think of all the options looking from all angls u kno..........

I don't know if this has been said, but maybe he knew since it was Harry's best friend's sister that he'd most deffinatley have to come and get her. But I don't know...there could be many reasons.

ya it was sorta a random pick by LV becuase malfoy ddad w/e his name Lucis or w.e. he just gave it to a random person it coulda of gone to ron hermione harry ne one but he gave it to ginny.....Plus LV was mad as sone as he gave it away lol

O yes he was!

I still don't think Jk didn't chose at random..but maybe lucius did. He got an oppurtunity to plant the diary at hogwarts, so he took it.

But even if it hadn't been Ginny, harry still would have rescued whoever it was, i mean its harry, he's just not happy unless he's off saving the world again.

yeah i think that tom didn't choose ginny lucious did and more cuz like mel said he saw a chance and he took it. lucious pcked ginny too because of aruther

Lucius choose Ginny to get back at Arthur!BUT in the bookshop,Ginny said 'Leave him alone' to Draco while he was pestering Harry.Lucius was walking up behind Draco and heard Ginny say that,so he then figured out that she has a crush on him,and thats also why Lucius chose her;To get back at Harry aswell!!!

Just a weird theory!

yeah werid!! llol

Yeah...so,any other comments on my theory,besides the fact that its weird?

no beside it is werid and it makes sense

YAY!!!
Thanx Steph!!!

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It would kind of make sense if that were true, but I don't think lucius would have given her the book just for saying that to his son, I mean come on, how can anybody be that low?

I think it would be cool if this thread could get going again, but regardless I need to say my piece! LOL!!!
First off, as it has been pointed out, it was Lucius Malfoy that slipped the diary into Ginny's belongings. I don't believe that Voldy told him to. I don't believe that Voldy had any contact at all with Lucious since before or on the night that Voldy killed Harry's parents. Because if he had, then Voldy would not have been so mad at Lucious in GoF. I think that Lucious could have just as easily slipped that diary to say...Hermione then to Ginny. He didn't yet know how smart Hermione was, but knew that she was close to Harry, so it almost would have made more sense to give it to her.... BUT...... Lucious HATES the Weasleys!!! REmember, they are blood traitors! So if he knew that Voldy would have to kill the person that had the diary, in order to come back, how much pleasure would Lucious have felt, if Ginny had died? How happy would he have been in the face of the Weasleys' pain? I almost think that Lucious never intended the diary to fall into Harry's hands at all. I think he wanted Ginny Weasley to die in order to bring back Voldy.....

So what do you all think of that????

As it was pointed out in the 7th book, it was given to Ginny for revenge. Malfoy wanted to get Arthur fired, and wanted to get rid of a dadngours artifact at the sametime. Just thought i would point that out again.

WOW! Yay for dragging up dusty threads Gerdy :lol:

Honestly I think it's 100% obvious now why Ginny ended up with Tom so . . . lets talk about why Ginny didn't become some weird recluse like she should have after such a devestating experience!! Especially since she was hardly a strong outgoing person before it :mellow: