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Title: letter's
Description: the letter in the story wasn't the last


padf00t14 - February 17, 2005 06:26 PM (GMT)
the letter placed with little harry by dumbeldore explained many, many things. But wasn't it "his last".Surly harry's anunt would have some questions..... then again what if uncle vernon put out the milk bottles therefore finding harry and also opened the letter. What if he did open the letter.... could he be trusted to keep the biggest secret in the history of the world?????

Dumbeldore's letter must of been adressed to just harry's aunt ,the letter left with little harry wasn't (i don't think). Dumbeldore wouldn't have the left the letter knowing that it could of got into the wronge hands.......

"the last" would of been proberly sent by owl when uncle vernon was at work...... that way he wouldn't know.

do you think i'm right? or have i totally mucked up.......

thanks kesa

SiRiUsLyAdDiCtEd - February 17, 2005 07:34 PM (GMT)
great post and great question, padf00t!!

since i like to post JK's quote's, here goes the one about the howler :)

the question was:
What did Dumbledore's Howler to Aunt Petunia mean? ('Remember my last'?)
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Well, It is a relief to move on after the Mark Evans fiasco. This time, two out of the three poll questions had interesting answers (or so I think) and thank goodness you chose one of them.

So: Dumbledore is referring to his last letter, which means, of course, the letter he left upon the Dursleys' doorstep when Harry was one year old. But why then (you may well ask) did he not just say 'remember my letter?' Why did he say remember my last letter? why, obviuosly because there were letters before that....

Now let the speculation begin, and mind you type clearly, I'll be watching.....

P.S. It has been suggested that I am wrong in saying that Dumbledore's last letter was the one he left on the doorstep with baby Harry, and that he has sent a letter since then concerning Harry's illegal flight to school. However, both Dumbledore and I differentiate between letters sent to the Dursleys as a couple, and messages directed to Petunia ALONE. And that's my final word on the subject - though I doubt it will be yours :)


phew...that was rather long!

I think JK makes it clear in this quote that the last letter adressed to Aunt Petunia alone was the one left with baby harry. seems a bit strange to me, cause like you said, padf00t, Vernon could have found it first. i think there is NO way he would not read it or at least have his wife tell him what it says! after all, the letter came with his baby nephew laying on his doorstep!

kesa, I agree with what you say....it would make more sense. but i understood the quote that way, that the letter left with baby harry was addressed to petunia alone. i'm repeating myself :P


and what do you mean by:
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"What if he did open the letter.... could he be trusted to keep the biggest secret in the history of the world?????"


i don't think vernon would go around telling poeple about harry or the letter or anything to do with wizards (and we see it in every book that he is trying hard to hide everything i just named). so i think the secret would be safe :D

the only explanation i can come up with is that petunia never showed vernon the letter. we know she was the one that found harry. this is what it says at the end of chapter one in SS/PS:

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....not knowing he would be woken in a few hours' time by Mrs. Dursley's scream as she opened the door to put out the milk bottles,....

but still, imagine you find a baby on your doorstep....would your first reaction (after screaming) be to grab the letter and hide it from your husband? and surely vernon would have been by her side in no time...

but this has gotten long enough and i'm rambling on....

darko-grl - March 20, 2005 02:33 AM (GMT)
I dont think there is anything exciting in the letter personally

Lianslo - March 20, 2005 08:06 AM (GMT)
For some reason I feel like you guys are missing the point here. Remember my last means that the letter explaining Harry's arrival at the Dursley house was not his only letter to Petunia. Otherwise he would have simply said, "Remember my letter." Evidentally Petunia and DD had been in contact before this time. The question is...what were they in contact about? This only adds to the mystery of Petunia in my opinion.

Luna - March 20, 2005 01:57 PM (GMT)
It does only add to the mystery. As for why no one else could've taken the letter: hello, DD=powerful magic. What the heck why not put a spell on the letter!?
Well, JK did say that Petunia ISN'T a SQUIB but that doesn't rule out the possibility that the lady's a witch. Maybe when Lily died, DD sent her a letter. But I really don't get Petunia at all. She hates magic, yet because of some threat or something she takes Harry in, endangering her whole family. And wat kind of threat could DD issue that would cause her to do such a thing? :unsure: :blink:

SiRiUsLyAdDiCtEd - April 19, 2005 02:00 AM (GMT)
I know! I know! (well, not really, but here's a theory for ya :D)

Petunia really is a witch.....(i wrote in the "is aunt petunia a witch" thread that she defenitly is not, but after reading over my posts again i changed my mind....so she could be :P ).....but she didn't want to be one! i don't know why she wouldn't want to be, i'm sure we could come up with plenty of reasons. SO when she got the invitation to hogwarts she just didn't reply or just wrote back, ya know, "thanks, but no thanks"....something like that :P . so DD decided to get in contact with her .....maybe he even thought she was very talented. we heard often enough that lily was . DD urged her to come to hogwarts. B)

as to what could have made her take harry in? at first i was like "that is a good question! never really thought about it. :unsure: " and even tho it is still a good question i have an idea now :P . DD made her take harry



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or he would tell uncle vernon that she is magical :o

:lol: what do ya think?

darko-grl - April 19, 2005 08:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lianslo @ Mar 20 2005, 01:06 AM)
For some reason I feel like you guys are missing the point here. Remember my last means that the letter explaining Harry's arrival at the Dursley house was not his only letter to Petunia. Otherwise he would have simply said, "Remember my letter." Evidentally Petunia and DD had been in contact before this time. The question is...what were they in contact about? This only adds to the mystery of Petunia in my opinion.

May be, you know he sais remember my last, may be he meant last letter obviously, because he sent her a howler, may be the letter was really a howler 15 years ago. remember my last (meaning last one?)

Luna - April 20, 2005 03:09 AM (GMT)
Good point, sorta like a play on words.
good theory SA, there's something fishy about it (sorry FISH)...can they really refuse... i mean i kno they don't have to go to hogwarts or anything, but they'll have to go to some kind of school. also i think LV would have known of a muggle born witch, especially if he'd killed her sister. maybe he'll be after her soon

darko-grl - April 20, 2005 06:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Luna @ Apr 19 2005, 08:09 PM)
Good point, sorta like a play on words.
good theory SA, there's something fishy about it (sorry FISH)...can they really refuse... i mean i kno they don't have to go to hogwarts or anything, but they'll have to go to some kind of school. also i think LV would have known of a muggle born witch, especially if he'd killed her sister. maybe he'll be after her soon

Yea... Like a play on words....

May be its nothing..... may be it is.....

SA - very nice point in deed...

mwiley - June 11, 2005 09:41 PM (GMT)
I don't think you can say no to being a witch or wizard i mean, you are who you are and you can't change that! But i always thought that she was a little jelous (sp?) of lily, and if she could have been a witch, then i would think she probably would have been one. She said in the PS that her parents were so proud to have a witch in the family, and wouldn't she want her parents to be proud of her instead maybe? Just a thought...

angelsflame265 - June 20, 2005 03:59 AM (GMT)
I think Dumbledore's "last" explained to Petunia why Harry has to stay at the house, because after the Howler Petunia told Vermon that Harry had to stay in the house.

whiteflame - June 20, 2005 03:27 PM (GMT)
maybe theres a completely different reason that petunia took him in. like you said, wouldn't she want her parents to be proud of her instead maybe? maybe she DID do something to make her parents proud of her. or so she thought. maybe what she did, was actually do something to hurt lily emotionally. maybe the reason that she took him in is because she owes it to her sister, and DD knows about it, and was reminded of that. thats just my thoughts.

mwiley - June 22, 2005 01:51 AM (GMT)
You know, it would make sence, if she owed her sister for something she did, then that would be a good way to make it up to her. I mean what better thing would you be able to do than take care of somebody's child after that person has passed on?

whiteflame - July 4, 2005 02:50 AM (GMT)
hah. wow. i cant believe someone actually agreed with my idea...i was just throwing it out there to be tossed and turned in the ocean we call whatever. wow..

Aurora - July 8, 2005 08:53 PM (GMT)
We do know that for some reason, Harry is the safest when he is at the Dursley's home. I think DD kinda explained it in book 5 in part of the prophecy. Since Petunia is a blood relative, some sort of magic protects them. I think that maybe that's another reason why Petunia agreed to take them in, cuz her family would be protected by this magic too.

mwiley - July 16, 2005 03:33 AM (GMT)
I agree that harry is probably the safest at the Dursley's. Maybe Dumbledore put him there so LV couldn't track him and kill him, like he's wanted to do for the last 15 years. I mean if he was walking around in the wizarding world, wouldn't one of LV's deatheaters see him, or figure out where he lives? That would make him more vonerable, like say if they knew he was weak or injured or something, they could just come busting in there and kill him.

FISH - July 30, 2005 07:20 PM (GMT)
he woulda been the safest and is the safest in hogwarts....!!!!!

mwiley - August 10, 2005 02:49 AM (GMT)
Yeah, but could you have a little kid running around hogwargs all the time? And how much would it such to grow up in a school? Well...that might not have been such a problem, but dumbledore didn't want harry to know until he was ready, and taking him to hogwarts would definatly let him know, i mean being there with all the witches and wizards.

afigirlafi - December 26, 2005 03:01 AM (GMT)
i guess he is off better with the dursley's

Sardine - December 26, 2005 05:05 AM (GMT)
Isnt Harry safest at the Dursleys because Petunia is his family and with her there,she can protect him?!Im sure she must still love Harry,even if she doesnt know or want to!

whiteflame - December 26, 2005 12:26 PM (GMT)
umm. i don't think so. because after voldie came back he borke the spell that protected harry. because each year the spell was renewed, so if it still worked, then harry should have technically been un touchable when voldie came back.

afigirlafi - December 26, 2005 04:38 PM (GMT)
yeah good point

Sardine - December 26, 2005 08:58 PM (GMT)
Yeah,i suppose...But then why did Harry say that he was gonna go back there one last time?(I think he said that,pls correct me if im wrong!)

afigirlafi - December 26, 2005 09:23 PM (GMT)
yeah he did! i dk why ?

Sardine - December 26, 2005 09:26 PM (GMT)
Dum,dum,dum!!!
I wonder...

afigirlafi - December 26, 2005 09:28 PM (GMT)
who doesn't!!!

hot - November 23, 2007 01:45 AM (GMT)
I don't know either. I had this long explanation and of course, I forgot...




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