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Title: What's gonna happen with Lucius Malfoy
Description: any ideas? will it affect draco?


SiRiUsLyAdDiCtEd - February 8, 2005 07:07 PM (GMT)
At the end of OotP malfoy went to Azkaban.....but at the end of OotP we also saw that the dementors were not on the lookout for prisoners anymore
(we saw that after those 12 death eaters escaped but no dementors were walking around Hogsmeade or guarding Hogwarts, yet they were all over the place when only one - Sirius Black - had escaped)
i think it's safe to say the dementors are not under ministry control anymore and Lucius is probably already free again :angry:

so? Is Lucius going into hiding? Is he going to start attacking poeple, mainly wizards that work in the ministry? or is he maybe trying to convince everyone he was forced to go to the ministry....or put under a some spell by Voldemort?

are ministry officials going to search his house - again - now that he's a known death eater? how are Draco and Narzissa Malfoy going to affected by this?

Lianslo - February 8, 2005 11:30 PM (GMT)
Great question. I agree that we can prolly bank on the dementors not being under ministry control. Its like DD said, dementors are naturally dark creatures, and their natural allie is Voldy.

So as for Lucious, I don't think he'll try to convice ppl it was all a big mistake. Theres gotta be too much evidence for that. Although...I shouldn't second guess how retarded the ministry can be...

But I would guess that he'll be full force for Voldy. Back stabbing fellow wizards, torturing muggles, and basically trying to further Voldy's work.

Coldfire - February 13, 2005 12:47 AM (GMT)
I agree with Li; he won't go into hiding, because that would make him look even more suspicious than he did before. And I think that the Ministry of Magic is REEEEEEEALLY stupid, and that they prolly won't check Lucius' house again.

PrinceofBlades - February 14, 2005 10:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SiRiUsLyAdDiCtEd @ Feb 8 2005, 12:07 PM)
At the end of OotP malfoy went to Azkaban.....but at the end of OotP we also saw that the dementors were not on the lookout for prisoners anymore
(we saw that after those 12 death eaters escaped but no dementors were walking around Hogsmeade or guarding Hogwarts, yet they were all over the place when only one - Sirius Black - had escaped)
i think it's safe to say the dementors are not under ministry control anymore and Lucius is probably already free again :angry:

so? Is Lucius going into hiding? Is he going to start attacking poeple, mainly wizards that work in the ministry? or is he maybe trying to convince everyone he was forced to go to the ministry....or put under a some spell by Voldemort?

are ministry officials going to search his house - again - now that he's a known death eater? how are Draco and Narzissa Malfoy going to affected by this?

With regards to dementors following one person instead of the 12 death eaters, Sirius was more dangeous than all of them combined. But the point is seen. However it is rumored that dementors have "a leader" who can speak, and aides in the help to fight voldemort :blink: , doubt it, but it would add some intresting plot-line. Second it would be for the best that Lucius go into hiding than attack, the ministry. Has much as this may surpirse some people the misitry does have some pretty good wizards and witches. And if i was a psychotic military dictator, which i'm not, I would wait for when i haved regrouped and ready to strike critical areas, and the ministry is not one of them. Remember divide and conquer. As for Malfoy and his mom, i'm pretty sure they know. It's when they die that a big change Malfoy will undergo.(little yoda for ya)

Coldfire - February 14, 2005 11:32 PM (GMT)
I'm not quite convinced that you AREN'T a psychotic military dictator, lol!! jk. But seriously, I agree with you. He definitely needs to lay low for a while. And yeah, it will affect Draco and Narcissa quite a bit; I mean, their father/husband would be DEAD!! :o

PrinceofBlades - February 15, 2005 02:10 AM (GMT)
Well we know you can't keep a secret. :D

Coldfire - February 15, 2005 03:30 AM (GMT)
Thanks for the sarcasm, PrinceofBlades; it was reeeeeally appreciated. lol.

Lianslo - February 15, 2005 08:03 AM (GMT)
Back to the topic at hand. :) I think the dementors are bound to side with Voldy. Just think about what they are: Dark hooded creatures that cause you to relive your worst memories, and have a mouth with the purpose of sucking souls. Really sounds like they'd want to help out Harry, huh? *sarcasm*


SiRiUsLyAdDiCtEd - February 15, 2005 08:21 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Coldfire @ Feb 14 2005, 11:32 PM)
I'm not quite convinced that you AREN'T a psychotic military dictator, lol!! jk. But seriously, I agree with you. He definitely needs to lay low for a while. And yeah, it will affect Draco and Narcissa quite a bit; I mean, their father/husband would be DEAD!! :o

:P i actually meant more if they would like go into hiding with him.....or if they'ld just stay put. after all, the MoM can't do nothing to them. and if they do stay put....will they be in contact or will darko be without a father for a while?

QUOTE

Back to the topic at hand.  I think the dementors are bound to side with Voldy. Just think about what they are: Dark hooded creatures that cause you to relive your worst memories, and have a mouth with the purpose of sucking souls. Really sounds like they'd want to help out Harry, huh? *sarcasm*


on the one hand i wanna agree with you. that's defenitly what i think is gonna happen too! they are not good creatures! but then again, they were working for the good side this whole time cause it suited them best i guess. jk might surprise us, since most poeple are expecting them to side with voldemort, she might pull something unexpected off and the ministry or dumbledore i should say gets them to fight voldemort :unsure: how she would do it i have no clue...but she could.

but nah, she was defenitly forshadowing that the dementors are gonna join the bad side :angry:



Coldfire - February 16, 2005 04:55 AM (GMT)
That's a nice theory, there. But yeah, the Dementors will most like side with Voldemort. They would be kinda creepy to have on the side of good anyway, even though they would be an EXCELLENT defense. Oh well. :)

PrinceofBlades - February 17, 2005 12:27 AM (GMT)
We have to remember that Harry is a good Patronos(sp?) user and could force them to help him, I like this idea better, but thats just me.

Coldfire - February 17, 2005 03:01 AM (GMT)
I kinda like that idea myself, Prince. :)

SiRiUsLyAdDiCtEd - February 17, 2005 08:27 PM (GMT)
i just read something that i had completly forgotten. lucius didn't only influence the MoM with his generous "donations", but St. mungos as well! (maybe for someone to keep an eye on the longbottoms? and to bring the plant to bode.)

will he loose his influence over st. mungos as well? will this change something with the longbottoms? or are those "traitors" gonna stay faithful to lucius...even after he goes into hiding?

CheerTwisters13 - February 22, 2005 04:52 PM (GMT)
After what I have read in the books and stuff, knowing Lucius Malfoy he will either say that he was under a spell (very likely) or just stay in hiding... As for teh dementor thing, I agree that it was a lot easier to look for just one person rather than 12! I don't think that the dementors have much to do with the Ministry anymore... I also think that the reason the dementors aren't going around Hogsemede and stuff is because there seemed to be a lot of complaints about it and I doubt the Ministry wants to deal with that again!

Merlin - February 23, 2005 09:49 PM (GMT)
its a shame we didnt get the giants on good side anyway i wonder if nevile will go after the person that did that too his mum and dad i mean i would want revenge and i truly belive that the dementors will go on bad side

Phoenix - February 25, 2005 06:58 PM (GMT)
Yeah the Lestranges really are bad ones. I HATE Bellatrix!
As much as i hate her though i really don't think poor Neville
could get her without an awful lot of help and without gaining
an awful lot of power. I mean sh's nearly as bad as Voldemort,
you read about her in the department of mysteries!
I know Neville worked reall hard with the DA when the
deatheaters escaped and that he improved so much and that
he was really brave in the dep. of mysteries but i don't think he
stands a chance if he goes after her! :no:
As to the dementors i think they are a cert. for Voldy's side.
I know there are some wizard's skilled at Patronus' but what's
the MoM gonna do? Hire every witch/ wizard who can conjure
one and have them stand guard over the Dementors making the
incantation every two minutes of the day?
*our old mate sarcasm is back* ;)
I don't think it's possible to keep them under control, even DD
said it and you know he's usually right!
Oh yes....the giants......
well at least we have one! ok he's a bit on the small side :D
but he is a giant - one who cares for 'hagger' as we seen in OOTP
or maybe he's just being nice cos he only knows 4 people but still
........you get wher i'm coming from and maybe he can round up a
couple of his mates. Besides maybe the other giants didn't join
Voldy - we dont know for sure. Maybe we're the only ones with
a giant on our side........................


SiRiUsLyAdDiCtEd - February 25, 2005 07:56 PM (GMT)
we're going a bit off topic here :)

i agree with what you said tho.
if you wanna start a new thread about bellatrix, giants or the lestranges go right ahead! :) might be something that's on other poeple's mind as well.....and they could use their own thread :)

Phoenix - February 25, 2005 11:23 PM (GMT)
oooooh sorry! :blush:
didnt mean to take it that far away from topic it's just the way the onversation was going! sorry

SiRiUsLyAdDiCtEd - February 28, 2005 06:26 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Phoenix @ Feb 25 2005, 11:23 PM)
oooooh sorry! :blush:
didnt mean to take it that far away from topic it's just the way the onversation was going! sorry

:) that's ok. i know how easy it is to slip from one topic to another without even realizing.....but if you do wanna open some new threads we'ld all love to read them! we wanna discuss everything :P :D

Lianslo - February 28, 2005 04:09 PM (GMT)
Most definately! There are plenty of issues we havn't discussed! :)

As for Lucious and his power at Mungos. I think it'll be all or nothing. He will either come out of hiding, and be opening hated by the MoM and Mungos, or try to keep his reputation as is.

Phoenix - February 28, 2005 07:36 PM (GMT)
i reckon most wizards will be against Malfoy now as everyone knows that he's a deatheater and as they're all supposed to be in Azkaban , if he breaks out then he'll be an outlaw first off and everyone will want to turn him in. but the major problem is that they cant keep them locked up any more can they if the dementors are working for voldemort.
:no:

CheerTwisters13 - March 1, 2005 03:27 AM (GMT)
Yeah... I have a feeling that the dementors are going to go to Voldemort's side! If so, well, that can end up badly!! Hopefully Lucius will pay the price for his deeds....

Coldfire - March 1, 2005 03:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (CheerTwisters13 @ Feb 28 2005, 08:27 PM)
Yeah... I have a feeling that the dementors are going to go to Voldemort's side! If so, well, that can end up badly!! Hopefully Lucius will pay the price for his deeds....

I totally agree with you on both things!! But Lucius will get what's coming to him in the end, I'm almost sure of it. But those dementors. . . I never, ever wanted them anywhere near Hogwarts or Hogsmeade or anywhere. They really do give you a really creeped out feeling, like they are sucking the happiness out of you. . . :unsure:

hermionefan4life - March 1, 2005 09:59 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Coldfire @ Feb 28 2005, 08:45 PM)
QUOTE (CheerTwisters13 @ Feb 28 2005, 08:27 PM)
Yeah... I have a feeling that the dementors are going to go to Voldemort's side! If so, well, that can end up badly!! Hopefully Lucius will pay the price for his deeds....

I totally agree with you on both things!! But Lucius will get what's coming to him in the end, I'm almost sure of it. But those dementors. . . I never, ever wanted them anywhere near Hogwarts or Hogsmeade or anywhere. They really do give you a really creeped out feeling, like they are sucking the happiness out of you. . . :unsure:

i think the same.

Lianslo - March 1, 2005 10:16 PM (GMT)
I guess I just see no real reason for them to stay. Voldemort can offer them much more then the MoM can. He will allow them to use their "soul sucking powers" which is what ultimately makes them happy, right? From almost every angle it makes more sense for the dementors to side with Voldy.

Phoenix - March 2, 2005 08:21 PM (GMT)
i couldnt agree more!
they cant be controlled - or can they?
maybe there is some way of getting rid of them it was never said that theyre immortal was it? im not too sure but maybe they can be killed - only it would take an awful lot of power!!
- thats if its even possible
lucious cant possibly get away with prancing around the streets - too many people are against him

Coldfire - March 3, 2005 04:48 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Phoenix @ Mar 2 2005, 01:21 PM)
i couldnt agree more!
they cant be controlled - or can they?
maybe there is some way of getting rid of them it was never said that theyre immortal was it? im not too sure but maybe they can be killed - only it would take an awful lot of power!!
- thats if its even possible
lucious cant possibly get away with prancing around the streets - too many people are against him

I have no idea if they can be controlled or not. . . that's something to find out. It would also be interesting to know if they are immortal or not. Hopefully not!! Yes, too many people dislike Lucius to let him get away with all the things that he's done. Revenge will be very sweet indeed! :)

Phoenix - March 4, 2005 07:13 PM (GMT)
REVENGE!!!
*adopts reall pyscho hysteric evil laugh*
SWEET SWEET REVENGE!!!

:wacko:
Mwah ha ha ha ha!!
:wacko:

:lol:

Phoenix - March 5, 2005 11:35 AM (GMT)
I like that reaction! Anyways!
ahem yes... lucius Malfoy - he'll get his and i'll laugh and smile and jump for joy - the mingin git!


mwiley - April 1, 2005 07:57 PM (GMT)
He'll definatly lay low, but i don't think he'll go into hiding, that would definatly make him more suspicius, but he could always donate lots of money and get away with it, like coldfire and somebody else said, was is lisanco? can't remember, but anyway, the MOM, is really stupid.

darko-grl - April 19, 2005 08:44 AM (GMT)
he'll totally get out....

he'll get out, prob with help of Voldy, and he will want to come after harry more and more then ever before..... Revenge I believe they call it.....

SiRiUsLyAdDiCtEd - April 19, 2005 11:52 AM (GMT)
oooohh.....maybe he does go into hiding and will try to go after harry, like you said, and that's where snape comes in and tries to protect harry and lucius kills him :o :P

darko-grl - April 20, 2005 06:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (SiRiUsLyAdDiCtEd @ Apr 19 2005, 04:52 AM)
oooohh.....maybe he does go into hiding and will try to go after harry, like you said, and that's where snape comes in and tries to protect harry and lucius kills him :o :P

Well thats my thoughts anyway....

And then Harry will see that Snape wasn't always against him and then he will go after Malfoy and that.... and then Draco might see what his Dad said and help Harry......

And thats what we call the tables have turned....




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