Title: NG(2)vsDMC(4)
ChainedSniper - February 17, 2008 04:55 PM (GMT)
you can compare either one, the newest ones or just the series in general, and i know this isnt the best place to see whcih one is actually better with this forum being built around TN lol, but we got some smart people here that wont just pick NG for its company, anyways, try to do it out of nuetral perspective
so if possible, anyone that has played both to give a good review on both games so that i know
overall what ive heard
Pure GAmeplay vs good gameplay but with a good story
but the story, i really couldnt care bout lol, if i want a good juicy story, ima play a rpg or i onno read a book lol
Mills McDougle - February 17, 2008 05:56 PM (GMT)
Here's an interesting bit of information:
NG2 isn't out yet. :o
So no one can really give you a valid comparison of both games. haha
Devil is a hardcore game. NG is, too, but NG's a lot more critically accepted. They both take as much skill to play, and neither of them are just "good." The fighting mechanics are great.
According to reviews, a lot of people's biggest problem with Devil is that its feels a lot like 3. But, at the same time, an average score of 8.2 isn't bad at all.
It doesn't look like NG's gonna have much new either. Proper dismemberment, more blood, regenerating health, marginally better graphics; that's all I see. But people are gonna fall in love with it.
ChainedSniper - February 17, 2008 09:58 PM (GMT)
yea i know its not out, but just off the series, as well
im thinking im DEFINATELY going to get NG2 but, ill rent DMC4 first, to decide anything
the thing with NG is, even if its not very new, you kinda get used to it lol, for ppl like me that already played each part like 100 times (not beating it, just having to redo lol) im still not really bored of the NG, its acutally fun to lose, i dont know if the same can be said about DMC, and with ppl probably having to replay the game like 20x they will be happy to be able to play the same game in a different direction lol
Xion - February 24, 2008 05:03 AM (GMT)
Like mills said, NG2 isnt out so this poll is irrelevant at this time....but continue as you wish....
Victorthebattousai - February 24, 2008 08:03 AM (GMT)
I'm gonna compare NG 1 to DMC 4. I played a demo of 4. I won't be buying it. It's just the same old DMC. They really haven't reinvented it, and it's not as good as the first NG on xbox.
Therefore, even if NG 2 does nothing but rehash the first, I think it will be better.
blueboy - February 24, 2008 08:14 AM (GMT)
who cares. both games will appeal to us all in one way or another. hardcore action ftw!
Victorthebattousai - February 24, 2008 08:27 AM (GMT)
Oh yeah, I didn't mean to say it was BAD, but I need a bit of reinvention, you know? Besides, DMC was never my thing anyway.
blueboy - February 24, 2008 08:35 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Victorthebattousai @ Feb 24 2008, 12:27 AM) |
| Oh yeah, I didn't mean to say it was BAD, but I need a bit of reinvention, you know? Besides, DMC was never my thing anyway. |
not to worry, we're all entitled to our opinions, and i'm certainly not knocking yours or anyone else's here.
as for the poll, i wouldn't vote even if ng2 was released stateside for the following:
DMC began "stylish action gameplay".....
NG refined the formula.....
GoW perfected the formula.....
each garnered strenghts from one another, so essentially they're all great titles and nothing more nor less.
and for an added personal flavor.....
Berserk owns all three forever. offers as much gore, violence and mood as all three yet delivers a compelling story that all three can't top.
Dark kunoichi - February 24, 2008 12:55 PM (GMT)
Of course Ninja Gaiden is better. I don't like any DMC.
Victorthebattousai - February 24, 2008 06:38 PM (GMT)
blueboy - February 26, 2008 12:44 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Victorthebattousai @ Feb 24 2008, 10:38 AM) |
| Berserk, the anime? |
no, berserk the game. :D
the US is still petitioning rights to bring the title stateside. it's still a ps2 import only.
Victorthebattousai - February 26, 2008 01:49 AM (GMT)
Eh, I'm not much for a lot of gore anyway.
Mills McDougle - February 26, 2008 03:11 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (blueboy @ Feb 24 2008, 03:35 AM) |
GoW perfected the formula..... |
By all means, it did not.
Victorthebattousai - February 26, 2008 03:18 AM (GMT)
blueboy - February 26, 2008 03:18 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mills McDougle @ Feb 25 2008, 07:11 PM) |
| By all means, it did not. |
discuss. :D
@ victor:
god of war.
Victorthebattousai - February 26, 2008 03:19 AM (GMT)
Ick, no way, Ninja Gaiden all the way =)
blueboy - February 26, 2008 03:30 AM (GMT)
ng, please. i want an explanation as to why ng is the best of the three. i'm looking for a good counter-argument to use. :D
Victorthebattousai - February 26, 2008 03:35 AM (GMT)
Ninjas. Ayane. End of discussion =D I've never played GoW, but I've seen it in action, I've read a guide even. And I don't play much of anything with a sex minigame. As for DMC, it's cool, but I just can't keep with the gameplay. Fun, but not my type of thing.
blueboy - February 26, 2008 03:45 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Victorthebattousai @ Feb 25 2008, 07:35 PM) |
| Ninjas. Ayane. End of discussion =D |
they lack depth of personality.
Victorthebattousai - February 26, 2008 03:57 AM (GMT)
Mills McDougle - February 26, 2008 10:28 PM (GMT)
I don't think neither NG nor DMC are better than one another because they both are so good at what they do. Actually, NG borrowed quite a few elements from the DMC series in terms of menu screens and item selection, but the gameplay is actually totally different.
They both take raw skill to play, but just different types skill. I'd like to say that NG is more technical, but DMC's combo system is really technical as well. I dunno, I like both of them the same.
GOW is good, but it's appeal is more mainstream. And I don't think it initially takes as much raw skill to play. I, in no way, think that GOW can compete with either in terms of game play.
blueboy - February 27, 2008 12:38 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mills McDougle @ Feb 26 2008, 02:28 PM) |
I don't think neither NG nor DMC are better than one another because they both are so good at what they do. Actually, NG borrowed quite a few elements from the DMC series in terms of menu screens and item selection, but the gameplay is actually totally different.
They both take raw skill to play, but just different types skill. I'd like to say that NG is more technical, but DMC's combo system is really technical as well. I dunno, I like both of them the same.
GOW is good, but it's appeal is more mainstream. And I don't think it initially takes as much raw skill to play. I, in no way, think that GOW can compete with either in terms of game play. |
| QUOTE |
| each garnered strenghts from one another, so essentially they're all great titles and nothing more nor less. |
i mentioned this before....somewhere. i also hear you on GoW. what i was implying is how you get the same level of "satisfaction" (if not moreso) at a simpler means as opposed to both DMC and NG with their combo imputs. then again, GoW required just as long combo imput strings as both DMC and NG too.
as long as the job gets done, what form of method is entirely left up to the player to decide on. either style of these three works for me, so they're all good imo.
Victorthebattousai - February 27, 2008 01:55 AM (GMT)
Each one simply has a different flavor, you know? DMC is for those that like the silly/Stylish(face it, Dante is silly at times) and funny gameplay. NG is for t hose that like the more "traditional" stylish action. Seems kinda like new school VS old. I always liked NG because it seemed much harder, and far more challenging(though I think it's MUCH easier than soooooo many people tell me they think it is). And I prefer NG's stylish to DMC's.
Mills McDougle - February 27, 2008 02:57 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Victorthebattousai @ Feb 26 2008, 08:55 PM) |
| Each one simply has a different flavor, you know? DMC is for those that like the silly/Stylish(face it, Dante is silly at times) and funny gameplay. NG is for t hose that like the more "traditional" stylish action. Seems kinda like new school VS old. I always liked NG because it seemed much harder, and far more challenging(though I think it's MUCH easier than soooooo many people tell me they think it is). And I prefer NG's stylish to DMC's. |
Dante's got spark and personality(LOADS more than Ryu), and makes the game's story fun to watch unfold. There's nothing silly about the gameplay, though. I also think the gameplay for NG is FAR from traditional.
As far as how hard the game is....you should really play the Dante Must Die modes. Hell, to be completely honest, DMC3 got the same amount of critical brutality that NG got in terms of initial difficulty. I think you might be underhanding the game a bit.
But, at the same time, you did mention that NG is more your preference. I, in no way, can argue that.
Victorthebattousai - February 27, 2008 03:46 AM (GMT)
I tried Dante must die. It was hard, But i'm not sure if it was as hard as NG. As for silly, I meant parts such as when he was falling from the top in DMC 3, and other spots, like when he rode the missile.
By traditional, I meant the style of the story, not the gameplay. Vengeance, ninja, ninja are cool, ninja kill stuff. Tradition. Lol.
Koi Kitsune2006 - February 27, 2008 05:03 AM (GMT)
I'd say Ninja Gaiden 2 even though I love DMC4 for the 360. Because DMC4 is pretty linear even with its small amount of puzzle scenarios in the game. Also it is the easiest DMC in the series. DMC3 is a lot more tougher then 4.
The reason why I'd say NG2 is because, it provides a challenging, atmospheric entity that we've grown to love since our young days with Ninja Scroll. If any of you even bothered to watch that anime.
NG2 is of course no linear game. Follows a good story line, kicks your ass, makes you think while fighting boss battles, has a large replayability factor, and it's always a long game.
DMC4 is replayable, I will not front there. But it is short, easy, and I can finish the game in 2 days straight. NG2 will probably make me take breaks so I don't smash my controller to bits.
Just my opinion.
Mills McDougle - February 27, 2008 06:43 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Koi Kitsune2006 @ Feb 27 2008, 12:03 AM) |
I'd say Ninja Gaiden 2 even though I love DMC4 for the 360. Because DMC4 is pretty linear even with its small amount of puzzle scenarios in the game. Also it is the easiest DMC in the series. DMC3 is a lot more tougher then 4.
The reason why I'd say NG2 is because, it provides a challenging, atmospheric entity that we've grown to love since our young days with Ninja Scroll. If any of you even bothered to watch that anime.
NG2 is of course no linear game. Follows a good story line, kicks your ass, makes you think while fighting boss battles, has a large replayability factor, and it's always a long game.
DMC4 is replayable, I will not front there. But it is short, easy, and I can finish the game in 2 days straight. NG2 will probably make me take breaks so I don't smash my controller to bits.
Just my opinion. |
Have you played DMC4 on the harder difficulties?
The reason why they made the game(initially) easier was that they wanted it to be more accessible to new comers. The higher difficulties are just like the challenging as the older DMCs.
And, like, NG is the exact same linear, WTF?
Koi Kitsune2006 - February 27, 2008 07:25 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mills McDougle @ Feb 26 2008, 10:43 PM) |
| And, like, NG is the exact same linear, WTF? |
You sure about that? lol
Mills McDougle - February 27, 2008 02:22 PM (GMT)
Yes, I am positive. Are you sure you even know what that term means?
blueboy - February 27, 2008 03:35 PM (GMT)
both NG and DMC offer "get from point A to point B" by whatever means necessary. these two aren't EXACTLY linear in the terms of.
and since the subject was brought up, i found "Dante must Die" mode both harder and more entertaining than NG's "Master Ninja Mode".
Koi Kitsune2006 - February 28, 2008 12:26 AM (GMT)
So basically the both games have entities that are great in their own way. I am still sticking to the Ninja Scroll comment I made.
Mills McDougle - February 28, 2008 01:31 AM (GMT)
lol....
I think you're in the wrong thread, sir.
Koi Kitsune2006 - February 28, 2008 01:42 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mills McDougle @ Feb 27 2008, 05:31 PM) |
lol....
I think you're in the wrong thread, sir. |
I need to see a fight between Ryu and Jubei! :o
Victorthebattousai - February 28, 2008 01:57 AM (GMT)
I really found both pretty easy, compared to some other things, But unless I'm up against a human, I seldom find games that difficult.
And yes, NG is about a linear as a game can get. You may have many ways of killing your foes, sure, but that ISN'T making it a game full of choices.
So everyone is on the same page, let me explain this. Linear is when you are forced down a certain way, at least when it comes to games. In NG, you always have to go through the ftorched village. No choice in the matter, you always have to take a certain route. You can't decide "oh, wait, I'd rather not go on the blimp." No, NG is DEFINATELY linear.
blueboy - February 28, 2008 03:10 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Victorthebattousai @ Feb 27 2008, 05:57 PM) |
| No, NG is DEFINATELY linear. |
exactly. ;)
ChainedSniper - March 1, 2008 10:37 AM (GMT)
wow, yea... lol havent been able to dl DMC4 yet, but off by just otther ppl in this forum + else where, ill like NG better, just because of less flashly, what i see as unbelievable is the somewhat possible taken to extreme
EXAMPLE, im more impressed with a football player catching the ball over a bunch of ppl etc, rather than a person "levitating" on youtube
so flashy games dont attract me, its jjust not my style which is probably why i like shooters, real time strats, and on RPGs the physical weappons people, only reason i ever use mages is for super effects and healing lol
acttually for this reason is why ive like DOA over other fighting games like tekken, (lasers... ccomon lol)
about the personality of ayane and hayabusa... they are NINJAS, they dont have feelings lol, no emotion, they are born to kill!!! MUAHAHAHA lol
(just watched a DMC4 demo) he yells too much... lol
Mills McDougle - March 1, 2008 04:44 PM (GMT)
So in other words, you find reasons to dislike the game? OK, yeah, that's cool.
And to talk about DOA not being as flashy as games like Tekken because of LASERS?! Is that a joke? Zack being in a Teletubby costume isn't too much? Tengu changing the design of a level isn't flashy? Have you even seen any of the combo vids to this game?
Jeez.
blueboy - March 1, 2008 08:56 PM (GMT)
ng less-flashy?
sorry chainedsniper, but your quote = fail. ng is as flashy as dmc....it's one of the main attractions of ng.
i respect your opinion, but that's not an informative way of breaking down the variables.
yes mills, i'm with ya on this.
oh and i came across
this that compares dmc 1 to ng 1. there's a pretty good article read here too.