I've decided to add Kuro-San, aka DarkFox to the adminstrators. Since Lei12 has pretty much stepped aside from the Admin part I needed someone who could help me with bringing the forum alive again. Adding Kuro should be a good solution.

One more admin can be needed though, I just have to think this through first.


Pappi :kas:

Congrats Kuro-San, we expect you to save this forum so you have huge pressure on you. JK ;)

Ok firsts things first. The past is the past. I'm returning mod rights to Dan and Lumi, everyone who used to have these rights, I am returning.

Congrats. :)

make sure you let lumi know of this koi. i've not seen her active here lately.

And i'm mod i guess, lol.......um il be glad to help out with ideas and stuff but once teh forums get back on track, I would like to become a member.

And congrats Kuro-San!!!!

I'm unable to unfortunately... -_- Getting in contact with Lumi is like me tieing a note to a pigeons foot and saying, "Find Lumi!".

Whoa. This is a little bit overwhelming, and thank you for the acknowledgment, blueboy.
Kuro, DF, Koi, I don't actually know what to call you-- it's very uh, noble (for lack of a better word) of you to return this oh-so almighty position to me- but I must decline the offer. When I was demoted, I was not petty enough to pick a fight, and never asked for the position back. You may think you're dong a favor, but I really don't care. I did at one point, but given the past administration and how such a radical change literally took place in one week, I'm worried about the stability and dedication in this forum.
I'm not active here at all anymore and this spot is wasted on me. I would, of course, like to linger to see what happens to the forum, but don't bother with making me administration. I'm sick of what has happened in the past, and I really find that this radical change is completely not tangible.

-L_D

we dont need any more mods..me and Mills are more than enough on our own + the new admin who ofcourse has all the same mod power

quite personally i think everyone should be removed from mod with the noted exceptions..

I would have to agree, while I appreciate the postion, it was unexpected after thinking about it. I would still like to help this board but becoming a mod will not add anything to the solution.

But no drama when the same thing I say comes from her mouth. :o

Amazing.

Congrats Kuro. I've always know you as a "go-getter" and a dude who acts instead of just talks. I think you deserve this position and look forward to the changes.

BTW, Dan, Lumi c'mon. Leave things in the past. If Kuro reinstated your former positions to you guys, he must believe in you. Just give it a second shot. If u think u've made some mistakes back in the past, u've already learned from it, and try to move on.
I believe u guys can do a good job.

If someone had an abusive and aggressive past, would you let him baby sit your children?

No, you wouldn't.

I don't agree with the whole "past is the past" thing. That's not to say that he'll like, abuse children or anything, but it's time to look past that logic.

Anyway, good luck, man.

Mills, you make a great point. It’s true that people screw-up and said people can repeat their wrongs. You logic makes perfect sense, but your being rash. Let me explain…

I'm going to explain this in the point of view as a guy who doesn’t know Koi, but he wants change. He set a plan in this thread and is actually backing it. Many people ranted on the much needed change in here, myself included, but what we all failed in was that we couldn’t or didn’t enact our plans. Koi is.

But mills man, your tossing wood in the fire. Your starting fights here man! Koi stated he has changed, and people can change. He hasn’t done anything wrong since he returned; that should show as a sign. Pappi, the forum admin that I'm sure a lot of people in here like, had the insight to promote someone that he felt would revive this place.

Pappi felt that, of all the senior members, Koi could do this job. It’s like a supervisor at a job. They don’t give management positions to some idiot off the street. They find someone who can lead people and do their own share of the work. Pappi probably felt that about Koi.

So why defy Pappi’s decision? All signs point that Koi is different, is making an attempt to change, and is enacting it. So give him a chance. “Innocent until guilty” should be enough to decide if Koi is good or bad, and he hasn’t done anything bad. At least trust him that he will carry his own weight.

I remember, before the rules were updated, that if there was a fight, keep it out of the forum. If there was a problem you can take it out via PM, email, whatever. As long as the drama stayed out of the forums. This one rule kind of stuck with me and I still remember it after 3 years. I think that it should apply here.

In closing, mills… you need to keep the peace. Calm down. Your starting a big fight here and this forum’s foundation cant that. If you resent Koi being an admin so much, PM pappi or email him or something. Ask him, in private, why he made that decision and talk it out thoroughly, but peacefully. But keep the peace, at least keep the peace.

I have never gotten into any of the DOAK's squabbles before, mainly because all of them were all pointless until now, however this issue is going out of hand. Sorry, if u don't agree with what I say Mills. U are a good person and I see u as a friend. I'm not going against you and I don't wanna make unnecessary enemies. It's your choice on how you wanna take this comment. U are right that there is a POSSIBILITY that the past may repeat itself, but u sure aren't leaving the POSSIBILITY of change. I think people deserve a second chance because, if criminals and murders can change after leaving jail, I don't see why a person who commited an "offense" in a forum can't do the same. I may be a little bold, but I think I know Kuro a lot better then most DOAK members here and I believe he has changed and gone even further to prove that he can make changes around him. I don't think he would have made admin at his previous forum if there wasn't something that made him stand out. I am definitely giving him the benefit of the doubt. I just can't see why you can't, but that is your choice.

It's not a favor, it's what I see as what is right. You may use the power or you don't have to. You may lurk as you may, but that is how I feel. Same with Dan and everyone who used to be staff. You may use it or you may ignore it. It's all up to you.

I'm not saying that he's a bad person. And I'm not saying that he'll do a bad job. I've stated this before.

This is what's annoying.

If I wouldn't have said anything, for one, this place would still be dead.

I went to Pappi personally, and got no reply from him, and I never do.

Personally, I feel that Xion would have made a great admin. He shows a passion for this place, and has already proven himself here. DF apparently didn't want the admin spot from the giddy-up, but somehow still ends up getting it.

A lot of the incentive that's going on in this place, though, is stemmed from me. If I wouldn't have gone to find out what it was that would boost this place, it would still be dead. I can prove that. And this honestly isn't a rant because I wasn't promoted admin, but more like it's a personal grudge that I don't get taken seriously. I seem to be the asshole because I am the only person bold enough to disagree with administration(keep in mind, approaching them outside of the public doesn't work).

I argue logic. But logic doesn't hold in this place. It's really annoying. Practically everything I say here goes on a deaf ear, which kinda makes my being SGM a waste.

Like, let's see......what if Ayane came back and happened to see that DF was an ADMIN to this website? I don't like his ass, but I do respect the fact that this place wouldn't exist without him, and this is still his project. Upon Ayane's return, we'd be down to ONE admin, and that would be Ayane himself. Because there's no way in hell that he'd approve the new adminship.

But, realistically, this place has been on a downward spiral since he's vanished for good. Try to prove me wrong when I say that bsu's stepping down was the downfall of this place. Prove me wrong when I say that you can't think of 5 things that the current administration has done for the better of this place. You can't, despite what Pappi, or Lei, tries to say. It's impossible, because it's never happened.

But, like I said, everything I say here falls on a deaf ear, so there's really me even no point in me trying to argue it.

You don't need to keep arguing since I am planning on making Xion an admin anyway. In my personal opinion, I want Xion as an admin.

but what exactly can i do as an admin to help this site that i cant do now? my contributions are posting news, images, videos and making topics like everyone else. Being admin only allows me to do things to the site like layout changes and that kind of thing. I dont really see the point to adding me as another admin, unless Kuro-San doesnt plan on being one for long. and besides, i dont want gutter trash being tossed my way if things dont work out.

if i have a suggestion ill forward it to you guys, and i have a couple little things that i have brought forward before but nothing happened, just "thats a good idea" and that was it.

oh and just one quick suggestion...well more like personal favor. Can you add a Ninja Gaiden 2 section to the Ninja Gaiden Forum. I would prefer to replace the Media Section with an NG2 section, but then those topics would be lost unless moved so no just add a NG2 section.

Trust me, I know the feeling about have gutter trash thrown my way. I feel it now matter of fact. >.> But besides that, the reason why I'd like you as admin is because, I'm gonna be busy myself. With work, life, etc. So I don't want everyone relying on me.

And sure, I'll add a NG2 forum.

my initial thought is mega fail but i always like to give people chances. cool!!

(i reply to this subject and also the other thread that is stickied)
hm... why lash on mills. pappioll and leifang, you guys should have expected some frustrated reply because you guys haven't done much for a long time. on top of that, you completely overlook the members who chose to stay in this dump because they care about it. but really, i don't want to completely blame you because a retard named ayane has the crappiest judgment in the world. you guys were a mistake in the beginning but i appreciate that you are trying now. my point is, you can't blame mills for saying all that stuff.

hmmm i think a new lighter forum skin will make everyone feel better lol

Oh, I suppose any semblance of courtesy has no significance to you.

For your information, I was mod here for almost a year and a half and a stupid petty argument forced me to rescind my status. And "Kuro" or "Koi," or whatever you wish your new persona to be, I remember your past here. It was full of trivialities that caused so many contentious threads. That means that the administration itself was so infatuated with getting attention, that it put fan appeasement on the back wheels.

Sure, the past is in the past. And given that, my membership is too. I am sick of playing with the politics of this forum. If we're making such a commotion with our own thoughts, then why would we stay? I don't want to be so belligerent (given that I absolutely detest rudeness) and Kuro, I'm glad that you wanted to give me a chance, but I honestly don't think that I could contribute anything helpful because honestly, I really do not care about the well being of the forum anymore, because my activity and presence has dwindled significantly.

Thank you for the offer, but I really don’t think that you need me.

I suppose this is my summation, but I must insist that I concur fully with Mills. He’s a controversial member, and because so many times in the past he’s been ignored or “shot down,” you all just feel that it’s the norm to steamroll anything he has to say.

-L_D

Jesus christ guys and girl, it was 4 years ago. People do change!

Get off your high horses.

I never said I was shooting mills down. I understand him completely. I have no excuses what happened back then. It was wrong yes. Had to do with alot of ego since I was an egomaniac. And how much I hate the way I handled things here in 2005, I wish I could change what has happened here. But no, that's not happening. Also, I cannot change the way you feel about me, this forum, or its past, neither the politics. All I am gonna do now, is see if possible, if there is life to sprout from this wounded seed to be a flower again.

And thats all we are striving for.

i understand where both mills and lumi are comming from. i've been here since god knows when.....even before four years prior to "these incidents", and am still one of the oldest members here.

this is the issue from what i can understand:
"there wasn't any consideration given to the members who still stuck around the boards throughout everything that has happend".

i'm also such a member, and while i applaud this process of getting doa:k back in order, i won't lie and say i'm not a bit irked at how judgement was passed within this entire week; without any talks amongst the few still active members such as mills.

we've new administration now, and that's cool.
there's even been talks about nullifying all mods, and that's cool also. do what you guys feel is necessary for the future of doa:k

like i've stated before, i don't care who's in charge at these boards. for those of us who have decided to still stick around here, we seriously need to work on our relationships here or there won't be any place to visit.

to pappi and lei12:
if possible, please try to be more active than you've been in the past. this is one reason why some of us are clashing right now over this decision.

to koi:
you have the technical expertise as an admin. do what you feel you need to, but don't neglect the rest of us senior members.....even if we may irk your nerves at present.

to doffy:
yes, the past is the past......but i won't forget, and neither will mills, lumi and whomever else that was affected from ayane's former rein as admin.

to xion:
i'll vouch for your adminship if appointed. all i ask is you stay dedicated to the cause regardless of feedback. i know of a few projects that you've completely "X'd" due to "lack of props" or nods. it shouldn't even matter at this point honestly. you've the passion, so stay with it......period.

as for me, this is my last rant here on this thread. i'll continue to watch over the future of doa:k along with my art thread. aside from this, i'm not sure what or if i can contribute to these boards anylonger.....especially if our very own mentalities continue to clash as they are after a very long dormancy.

peace

-blueboy-

No one is irking me right now. I'm fine. I have my mind on other things rather then poking around in the past. I've been past that. Even though it is being brung up, it's not bothering me. I just want to see if I can revive this place to those who still care for it. Besides... It's the least I can do. I feel responsible for this place. Because of back then.

@ Lumi

wow :shocked: sorry if i came across as negative toard your nomination, i wasnt and w/e happened with you a long time ago, i wasnt insinuating anything toard it. I was stating (because 2 additonal mod positions were suddenly given out, and without being desired by those who it was given to aprently) that we are not in need of any more staff members for the mod positions, im sorry if it came across as something negative to you personally but i insist it was not intended as such.

w/e kind of drama you guys have going on i have no part in it, and i do not wish to be a part of it. :bow:

Well, if she doesn't want it, then she doesn't want it. I don't want anymore fighting about it.

Look guys can we end this already...PLEASE!!!

We came here we all came here with something in common when we 1st signed up. All of us do have differences in opinion i understand, but we can't make this a lingering issue. Whats done is done we can't change that. Just look to the future. I don't like seeing this turn out terribly especially amongst so many senior members. I have known most of of u since 2004 let's not let old grievances get in the way of trying to reform. Sure we can't forget the past, but is there any benefit from sticking to it? Thats the last I need to say for this issue. I hope this will end. If not....well....thats for all of u to decide. I sure as hell don't wanna see any member leave over this. I beg all of u just close this issue.

Pluralizing the idiom doesn't really make a compelling statement. But, whatever.
Also, I"m not on a high horse (hence my ability to be on "horses") given that my statement was purely that I got tired of dealing with the old administration.

SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION. MAYBE MY PROSE IS TOO CONFUSING.

I had to deal with Ayane, and that was an awful experience for me. I don't wish to continue THOUGH I HAVE THANKED KOI FOR THE CHANCE.

This unwarranted hostility is another reason why I am clearly unsuited for this forum. Blueboy, bsu, Mills and I have been members for the past (almost) four years. There's no malice that I intend for this forum, I am merely declining the invitation to partake in its administration.

To Xion, thank you for your apology, I'm glad you're not just another person who's here to yell at me.
To blueboy, I'm sorry that your godfather's character died in Dexter because he was my favorite- and thank you for always backing me up.
To Koi: You have changed- this diplomacy coming from you was surely not present three years ago. I'm glad you've matured...and that metaphor was entirely unexpected! Hehe.
To Engraver: You know what? Opinions matter. Whether you like them or not, and they can't just be stored on a shelf. I wasn't here for the past two weeks or so, and though your desire to close this issue is not entirely unbased, I need to say what I need to say, and that's that. Your opinion to me matters now, and I've said what I think about it. (No hard feelings, okay?)

U know i don't make things and issue if it needn't be Lumi. You have your opinions i respect that. Your cool with me. Always have. ;)

Lumi, we all had to go through the same bullshit back then, you and I aren't alone there. I can understand that you're tired of the administration here because of Ayane and past and unpresidented quarrels that meant nothing but pure e-drama that was completely unnecessary at the time and could have been avoided. I completely understand that. I am just hoping that just, that you can give this one more chance as things has changed. And I bet my hat on it, if I had one. >.>

Give it some time however. It's not all to bleak yet. I owe this forum, that's how I feel. :) And I hope we can make a kick ass future as a team again. But for now, lets just focus on the now, set forth a plan, and get shit moving.

Sorry for my course of minor language.