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Title: Cadian hill fortress 3
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Old Guard - October 7, 2007 06:44 PM (GMT)
[Ladies, Gentlemen... welcome to Cadia. Please be so kind as to present yourself with your travel permit to the young administratum chap over there...next to the two friendly gentlemen of the Interior guard.
I understand that you wish to visit the site of the construction of hill fortress 3 on the western outskirts of Kasr So'ton please ensure that your security clearance is valid.

OK enough already.... since the many young phillistines of 'the other place are being rude, taking a peak and going meh!?... I shall ply my wares amongst kindred souls and fellows I respect.

I got the FW trench pieces this year at GD. and have set about building my greatest piece of terrain yet. She who must be obeyed has just given it sideways glances so far and is more preoccupied with tidying the girls room but sooner or later the dread question 'wher are you going to keep that/ is going to be asked. And right now! I don't have an answer. I should perhaps explain a couple of things.


You will all be familiar with the FW trench boards seen this year (and the smaller one last year) at GD. Fantastic I'm sure you'll aggree. Now I would love to be able to do a trench themed board, however since I am not graced with a dedicated games room like Deadly Headly and LoTE (Gits! :angry: ;) ) any board that I am to have must be able to be stored away and be Multi purpose. (I do so hope that GW overcome the problems they were apparently having with their Jigsaw games board some of you may have seen in 'rumours' a few months back). So, how to have trenches on a flat board! simple, military tactics have over the millenia maintained one constant. Place defensive positions on a hill if one is available, dominate the ground below and make the B*****DS work for it if they want to take a pop at you. so build a shallow hill just deep enough to sink the trench bits in.
Problem 2; I'm not made of money lots of trenches is out of the question. I have ironically possibly discovered a slightly cheaper alternative using CoD floor components (look in the dugout) but that's another story. so I limited myself to one of nearly everything, I didn't bother with the ladders and such or the krieg guns (loads of spare CoD ladders and heavy weapons in the bits box, the rest I can make) and decided to suplement the defensive position with an Eartshaker. I do have, buried in the depths somewhere, the FW sandbagged earthshaker position, but that did not feel right so the afformentioned Airfix coastal position adequatly 40K'd up would have to do the trick. So this is how its stands at the moment (looks like a rough winter on Cadia this year) there is more Terraforming to be done as it does not look geologicaly correct. It looks like what it is 2 bits of polistyrene stuck together right now.
I am not going to put lots of craters and pock marks all around it or additional defenses. These will be available, but will be 'stand alone' and and will be placed separatly like you see on the pictures, again flexibility! The ground will be made to look like moor land, my 'impreesion' of Cadia is all based around Mr Abnetts descrption in the second Eisenhorn book, when finished it may appear a little greener than one would expect, hopefully as battle rages the addition of the craters will help that.
I will try to do lots of pics as I do each stage but will probably do a dedicated terrain thread for most of it with summary updates here.

so here we go. I have my photobucket account now, some swine has used 'old guard' as a name already so I have yet again had to go to the 'french side' and now use the nom de plume 'Vielle guarde'

Ok lets hope this works, crosses everything... OOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!
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jasevx - October 7, 2007 07:11 PM (GMT)
looking very nice, now get it finished and get it bloody painted! ;) :P


Deadley Hedley - October 7, 2007 07:12 PM (GMT)
Looking good mate ,I have a games room but ive never played a game in it yet :P ,plus I see that you have got the apoc upgrade sprue already ;)

Old Guard - October 7, 2007 07:15 PM (GMT)
Give us a chance! I only started this weekend. I need to get another COD building to line the dugout, might have to rig that as a command center or something.
still need much more detail on the emplacement

Deadly- same here I build and build and dont get the stuff to the table. the Sprue came with the linebreaker squadron. Ive built one and the other two are going for conversions and bits for my other projects.

scrubout - October 7, 2007 07:29 PM (GMT)
Old Guard that is awesome! Have you decided on the terrain yet? (green hills? snow?) edit: read your description, ignore what I asked!
Very tempting to ask for some of those for xmas now... :rolleyes:

I think I could find me a use for an Airfix Coastal Position piece too...

Sod 'em all Old Guard, here everybody knows your name ;).

-scrubout

Old Guard - October 7, 2007 07:50 PM (GMT)
Oh great I risk becoming Norm! from cheers.

Rictus - October 7, 2007 08:47 PM (GMT)
Nice Old Guard. I so want to do a trench board....lucky git.

BTW, I edited your first post to correct the broken picture link. The last picture is now showing.

Old Guard - October 7, 2007 09:19 PM (GMT)
cheers chap first time using photobucket, not to bad for a technophobe old git only one out of the three screwed up. Hey here's a thought, for those of us who are a little more... mature, rather than the angry old men of w...the other place, how about the 'grumpy storemen of the ammo bunker'/

Ross - October 7, 2007 09:29 PM (GMT)
Cool board!! Will look very mean once it's finished.

Is the Earthshaker ground mounted or in a 'car park' area for a bassy?

Old Guard - October 7, 2007 09:39 PM (GMT)
Ground mounted, I'll post more pictures as I progress including the airfix bit. part of the gun crew will be servitors and the ammo will be fed from an underground store.

Captain Wolverine - October 10, 2007 12:57 PM (GMT)
Looking goof I wish I could justify buying the FW terrain pieces myself.

lavadude360 - October 10, 2007 06:31 PM (GMT)
Looking good there Old Guard.

Can't believe someone actually bought them FW trench sets, far too much money for me.

Good luck with this and getting the Missus to stop nagging (which will inevitabley follow).

Old Guard - October 10, 2007 07:13 PM (GMT)
Hey! it was there and it was rude not to! what i want to have a play at now is a bit of reverse engineering and see what I can do with readily avalable materials to share with every one.

On the she wo must be obeyed front... all is quiet! the board is hiding in plain sight and no adverse comments have as yet occured. however this weekend comes more terraforming, the messy bit! Things might change

Galikoe3 - October 12, 2007 04:03 PM (GMT)
excellent terrain piece, I am filling up with envy.....it's so cool

Sheep - October 14, 2007 05:59 AM (GMT)
Looks good old son, i really like those trench bits too, glad to see someone making use of them.

Keep us posted

Lord Commander Eidolon - October 14, 2007 09:24 AM (GMT)
norm from cheers haha yeah i could see that ahppening ;) but the trenchs are awesome, how do you work with the crappy bubble styrene? i hate it and it hates me, but my job does have its perks and i can get the pink stuff thats easy to do stuff with and for free aswell

Old Guard - October 14, 2007 10:20 AM (GMT)
You git! the pink stuff is like rocking horse Poo around my neck of the woods! I've managed to score some odd bits of blue stuff from sote of the sites I visit but nowhere near enough for this kind of project. I dont really like the bubble stuff myself but its all I could get and it was nice and cheap. I have been folowing the Paul Rudge (ex WD now working with FW) method which required sanding it down :blink: (and still she who must be obeyed has said nothing :o )

I'm doing lots of odd bits of DIY at the mo (quick tea break) but have been detailing the dugout, and hope to fit the trench bits and do a bit of plaster/filler work later. Hopefully some pics tonight.

Later

Old Guard - October 14, 2007 07:04 PM (GMT)
Ok quick tease. this waht has been going on today so far. the contents of the dugout below the gun emplacement. the 2 opposing walls and the holoprojection table. This will have a map displayed by the time I finish with it.
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scrubout - October 14, 2007 08:04 PM (GMT)
Wow, that is rather intensive Old Guard, nice use of random bitz and CoD stuff.

-scrubout

Ross - October 14, 2007 09:31 PM (GMT)
Awesome interior work OG, fantastic!! :)

Old Guard - October 14, 2007 09:49 PM (GMT)
Thanks all. No more pics tonight I'm affraid however progress has been made. The trench scetions ar stuck in place now the board has been plastered and is now drying. though it is going to have to be moved or overnight one of 2 greater deamons of chaos will leave what will look like giant cat paw prints in it.

so when I can next work on this jobs to do:
1- bit of glue and sand
2- seal with textured paint
3-spary every thing Black (stop it Jhonny) Black .....black!!!!
4- stone and earth painting
5- select a range of flocks and grassses to achieve a 'moors' like look
...but Im getting ahead of myself

Sideways glances from she who must be obeyed, and even a 'Hmmm...' but nothing else! I'm actually getting away with this :)

Old Guard - October 21, 2007 12:08 PM (GMT)
[COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue][COLOR=blue]Update! whooohoo!!!

After the bitter dissapointment of last night AKA another colonial gets his own back! (who's idea was it to put an aussie in charge of review of the video feeds!! WE WAS ROBBED- standard English response on loss of an important game) I have cheered myself up by progressing further with the hill fortress. PICCIE TIME :D

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The hill is now undercoated (drying as I write) as I mentioned I intend to roughly follow the Paul Rudge method as shown in UKWD 298 in the Bugmans Lament article.
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the back of the gun emplacement with the ultimate gun servitor and yes the winch assembly does run along the rail
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close up on the servitor and gun. Vindicator bits are very useful.
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the sensors array or how to hide a bit that would be a b**** to sand down.
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and finally just to show that I have started my baneblade and as you can see I'm trying to get a bit of similarity between the resin one I bought at GD 2006 (yes I know shameful just dont ask about the vulture and valkirie from 2003 an 04).

So if all goes according to plan the first coat of paint will go onto the hill and I need to play with the flocks and grasses to get the look I'm after.

Later folks

scrubout - October 21, 2007 05:17 PM (GMT)
Sweet Old Guard, the progress is looking great!

I nicked off that ridiculous looking searchlight on the plastic Baneblade, was thinking of just gs'ing over it, but the Leman Russ compartment may be an idea of yours I have to borrow.

-scrubout

Old Guard - October 21, 2007 06:12 PM (GMT)
Thanks chap be my guest, you will have to trim it a little to get the angles right.

Ok more progress twice in one day :blink: painting is going better than expected so this is where I'm at

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there may even be more a little later!

Astador - October 21, 2007 06:52 PM (GMT)
Old Guard, looking great! :D

Keep it up!

scrubout - October 21, 2007 08:19 PM (GMT)
Aye, pip pics are great.

-scrubout

Old Guard - October 21, 2007 09:02 PM (GMT)
thank you both.OK last photo for today. I have stated to flock the board in between painting detail though there is much more of that to be done. In fact its surprising just how much detail there is on these trenches which is not immediately visible.
Anyway as I think I have said before I am going for a Cadian moors feel as described in the Eisenhorn books so this pattern will be repeated accross the board trying to make it look as realistic as I can.

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later folks

Rictus - October 21, 2007 09:50 PM (GMT)
Looking very nice, very very nice.

The only thing I would change is the Earthshaker, i would get rid of the platform as it looks a bit out of place.

I so want to do a trench board. Damn you Old Guard, damn you.

Old Guard - October 21, 2007 10:01 PM (GMT)
Then do one chap! if the FW stuff is a little rich for your blood It can be done with the COD floor pieces (note to self- do a mock up to show people what you mean).

This puppy is about 2 foot by 3. the only real question is where to keep it so it don't get damaged.

I may be altering the platform a little on the left hand side (taking part of the 'T' away the one on the right has to stay to support the next shell. there is still much to be doen in that area.

Ps- She who must be obeyed almost looked impressed!

scrubout - October 22, 2007 04:12 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
if the FW stuff is a little rich for your blood It can be done with the COD floor pieces (note to self- do a mock up to show people what you mean).


Oh do tell! :)

-scrubout

Old Guard - October 22, 2007 04:55 PM (GMT)
Give me a few days and I shall. and with a variety of other options too!

Field fortifications! it's ma Thang!!

Old Guard - October 22, 2007 07:51 PM (GMT)
here you go Scrubby, not particularly well done however you can see the general concept.


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oh dear! :rolleyes: up go the sales of COD buildings (either that or lots of buildings showing up without floors)

enjoy! I will come up with some other alternatives for trenches in future posts.

Later guys

firestorm - October 23, 2007 06:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Old Guard @ Oct 22 2007, 07:51 PM)
here you go Scrubby, not particularly well done however you can see the general concept.


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Old Guard, that is a fantastic idea - well done! *applauds heartily* :D B)

I might have to have a go at that myself, if I ever get the time... :ph43r:

When Black Roses Bloom - October 23, 2007 08:00 AM (GMT)
And while the zerg will overun the terran positions, Old Guard will sit at his piano and play an eerie tune... ;p

*edit*: Please don't quote pictures WBRB. -scrubout

scrubout - October 23, 2007 11:20 AM (GMT)
Thanks for the example! Now I know what to do with my cod kit... :D

-scrubout

Old Guard - October 23, 2007 02:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (When Black Roses Bloom @ Oct 23 2007, 08:00 AM)
And while the zerg will overun the terran positions, Old Guard will sit at his piano and play an eerie tune... ;p


Say what?! :blink: !?

McMullet - October 23, 2007 04:59 PM (GMT)
"Mmmm, bunkers. Crunchy on the outside, chewy in the middle." - Anonymous Carnifex.

Andy old chap, this is looking amazing! My nids appreciate helpful humans who agree to concentrate their Biomass in trenches like that. The Earthshaker with all the loading cranes and whatnot looks awesome.

The whole terrain piece is easily worth a special 40K scenario to play over it!

Lord Commander Eidolon - October 23, 2007 06:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (McMullet @ Oct 23 2007, 04:59 PM)
"Mmmm, bunkers. Crunchy on the outside, chewy in the middle." - Anonymous Carnifex.


bloody nice bunker complex

thewizardofoz - October 23, 2007 10:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Old Guard @ Oct 23 2007, 02:20 PM)
QUOTE (When Black Roses Bloom @ Oct 23 2007, 08:00 AM)
And while the zerg will overun the terran positions, Old Guard will sit at his piano and play an eerie tune... ;p


Say what?! :blink: !?

well the zerg are from starcraft...best PC game ever...and are alot like the tyranids and the terran are like grenadier IG.

and your trench line is incredible. i never thought that those trenches would be of use to people...

Old Guard - October 23, 2007 11:01 PM (GMT)
thank you for that, small man behind the curtain who I am to pay no attention to, despite the fact that my 2 youngest daughters will be in the stage show of the wizard of oz which will be masquerading as this years Panto in Southampton and I'm already sick to death of hearing the songs (heresy!!) Ding dong the witch is dead....serves the bitch right!!.....takes a breath.

The trenches Sooo had to be done (I like doing terrain.... too much... not for me playing on a green bit of cloth with lumps under it)

Thanks also to the rest of you. Sam once the gun position is on top you will note the strategically positioned heavy flamer turret that will nicely dump a substantial quantity of sticky self igniting promethium accross and into the trench (time to put another shrimp on the barbie methinks). I may also have to introduce a couple of booby traps in the shape of the 'Fougasse'. A friendly little toy composed of an oil drum full of nape with a kicker charge and a white phos grenade to ignite it (note to self write rules for such a beasty).

The idea of a scenario sounds tops and a possible apocalypse datasheet may also be in order.

Just ordered my crimbo present 'THE CHOPPERII'. it is now late, I have to get up early.. and so to bed...did sport with Mrs Fitzsimmons.... (old goon show joke)

Later guys before I prove that I have totally lost it ...........Too late! :blink:




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