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Title: The BT & The IG!
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High Marshal Helbrecht - April 16, 2008 03:48 PM (GMT)
Well, I've decided that I will make a Project Log. So you can keep track of my stuff. lol.

I've shown these before, but I will be taking new pics later with better lighting and stuff.


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Commander 1

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Commander 2

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Commander 3

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Apothecary

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Rhino

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10 None Painted Marines

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7 Painted Marines

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2 Marines from the Sword Brethren

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Assault Squad - 5 Man

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WiP Monk


What do you think, so far?



-High Marshal Helbrecht

jasevx - April 16, 2008 04:22 PM (GMT)
Alot of work done so far, painting is clean and crisp, can't wait to see you paint the black in shades :P

Not sure about the Apothecary's arm tho, but well executed conversion anyhow

Death Korp - April 16, 2008 06:56 PM (GMT)
Haha! Another BT player!

I have a 1750pt army which i will be adding more stuff on to in the near future hopefully :)

Yours are better painted though :D

I will be looking towards more updates :)

DK

High Marshal Helbrecht - April 17, 2008 01:00 PM (GMT)
Thank you, and here's an update... I've got some new pics. I think they are better pics and show my detail. I hope you like them. :D :)


2 Sword Brethern
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Assault Squad (2 more are being added soon)
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Rhino
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3 squads and 3 commanders
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Not made Predator - LOL
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Sword Brethern - 3 More need to be made. :P
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Chaplain Grimaldus and Retinue box, :P
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WiP Chimera-Predator Conversion
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WiP - Space Marine Horse's.
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WiP Apothecary
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WiP - Black Templar Monks
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^ I blu-tac the Ork Heads in so I wouldn't loose them. They won't be there once they are finished. LOL. ^

WiP - Restoring 2 Land Speeders.
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Please, C&C welcome. I want to here your thoughts, thanks.

bram kuijpers - April 17, 2008 02:20 PM (GMT)
wtf ....... orc heads on monks........ :huh:


anyway the stuff looks good promising and very intresting

High Marshal Helbrecht - April 17, 2008 06:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (bram kuijpers @ Apr 17 2008, 02:20 PM)
wtf ....... orc heads on monks........ :huh:


anyway the stuff looks good promising and very intresting

LOL, I stuck them on with Blu-tac so I didn't loose them.

They are not going on the monks. lol.

jasevx - April 17, 2008 07:10 PM (GMT)
Gork Monks, sounds good to me!

Lt.Gregor - April 17, 2008 07:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (jasevx @ Apr 17 2008, 07:10 PM)
Gork Monks, sounds good to me!

Might need to steal that Idea.... :lol:

Digits - April 17, 2008 09:37 PM (GMT)
I hate it every time someone starts BT as it reminds me of the years I spent collecting mine before I sold them in a moment of weakness! lol

None the less, you have quite a sharp eye on you, I always struggled with the shoulder pads. May I offer a small tip though? I think you need to add a highlight to the red you are using. Perhaps a touch of thinned bllod red. Being black, you need something to stand appart from it, if you know what I mean?

Keep it up.

Deadley Hedley - April 17, 2008 09:49 PM (GMT)
Good to see another marine log :) keep up the good work ;)

High Marshal Helbrecht - April 18, 2008 02:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Digits @ Apr 17 2008, 09:37 PM)
None the less, you have quite a sharp eye on you, I always struggled with the shoulder pads. May I offer a small tip though? I think you need to add a highlight to the red you are using. Perhaps a touch of thinned bllod red. Being black, you need something to stand appart from it, if you know what I mean?

Keep it up.

Thanks. What red are you referring to? The Assault ones or the Sword Brethren guys?

QUOTE (Deadly Hedley)
Good to see another marine log :) keep up the good work  ;)


:) and will do. :D

High Marshal Helbrecht - April 23, 2008 09:12 PM (GMT)
Update...

Started on my predator. (Big thanks to SC for scanning the how-to guide for me. Thanks!!)

I spray the side bits blac, and the base. Just need to get some new paint to paint the inside. :D

Cooper - May 5, 2008 10:18 PM (GMT)
Sorry for the triple post. My apologies.


I just wanted to say, due to acquiring some Imperial Guard from SpikeyJames (Thanks :D).


This thread will now be an Imperial Guard & Black Templar Project Log. So if a mod or admin reads this. Would it be possible to have the thread title changed to... "The BT & the IG!"... Thanks. :D :D


Oh, and I had a name change to. Sorry for the confusion. :P

BodhiTree - May 5, 2008 10:49 PM (GMT)
Your Plog is renamed, now go forth and paint! :)

- Vee

Edit: What the... your username reverted from Cooper back to the old one, I'll do it again.

Edit II: something's up, in the edit post screen Cooper shows up for your last post, but everything else is in the old name... I'll keep an eye on this and see what the pattern is.

Cooper - May 16, 2008 02:24 PM (GMT)
Hi guys.

I just wanted to make sure, a 1:35 model. Such as a tank. Is the right size for GamesWorkshop minitures... right?

The reason I ask is because I got this nice tank for my Chaos Guard.

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I thought I would be good for a Chimera or Leman Russ. It turns out its not...








Its perfect for a Baneblade. With a little plasticard and TLC it could become a Baneblade.

Oh, I brought it for £6.99 at Modelzone. Sale. There are models in the sale that could be Leman Russes too, that are £9.99.

Next time I'm picking up; a few tanks that are going to be Chimera's. They look pretty sweet. :)

While I was out, I picked a box of this up...

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Awesome. :D:D:D:D

jasevx - May 16, 2008 02:49 PM (GMT)
You'll find it slightly larger than a chimera, the IG scale is more like 1/40, buts its close enough!

Cooper - May 23, 2008 09:46 PM (GMT)
Well, here is an update. I've put alot of effort into it, so I hope you like it... and please C&C...


-Black Templar List
-The Guard of Chaos
-WiP - Predator
-WiP - Chiminator
-WiP - GoC
-Thank you!
-Selling
-On the look out For




What's everyone think of these lists for both my "Black Templars" and my "The Guard of Chaos"?


[Red Tick = Have]
[Blue Star = Need to Buy]


Black Tempalrs

HQ
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Castellan Draco user posted image

The Emperor's Champion user posted image

Chaplain-
Chaplain Grimaldus and Co user posted image

Sword Brethren Terminator Command Squad
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Command Squad
5 x Initiate user posted image



ELITE
Sword Brethren Terminator Squad
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Sword Brethren Terminator Assault Squad
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Grey Knights
5 x Grey Knights Squad user posted image

Sword Brethren Squad
6 x Sword Brethren user posted image

2 x Dreadnought user posted image

Tech Squad - user posted image
Techmarine
Tech Servitor
Combat Servitor
Gun Servitor



TROOPS
40 x Initiate user posted image / user posted image
5 x CC Neophyte user posted image
5 x Sniper Neophyte user posted image

Cooper - May 23, 2008 09:47 PM (GMT)


TRANSPORT
2 x Rhino user posted image / user posted image
1 x Razorback user posted image



FAST ATTACK
2 x Assault Squad user posted image / user posted image
2 x Land Speeder user posted image



HEAVY SUUPORT
1 x Vindicator user posted image
1 x Preadator Annihilator user posted image
1 x Chiminator "count as" Predator Destructior user posted image
2 x (or possibly 3) Land Raidor Crusader's user posted image


Thats a total of "4117 pts - not including the Grey Knights as I don't know the pts cost of them", that I'm hoping the army will be finished at. :)




The Guard of Chaos

HQ
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3 x Sanctioned Psykers user posted image

Cooper - May 23, 2008 09:48 PM (GMT)
1 x Commissar Ibram Gaunt user posted image
1 x Commissar Yarrick user posted image
12 x Heavy Weapons Teams user posted image


ELITE
1 x Kaskrin Squad user posted image
6 x Ogryns user posted image
2 x Ratling Squad user posted image
1 x Techpriest Enginseers user posted image
2 x Storm Trooper squads user posted image

TROOPS
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2 x Armoured Fist Squads user posted image


FAST ATTACK
2 x Hellhounds user posted image

Cooper - May 23, 2008 09:49 PM (GMT)
3 x Sentinels user posted image

HEAVY SUUPORT
2 x Leman Russ Battle Tanks user posted image
2 x Leman Russ Demolishers user posted image
2 x Basilisk's user posted image
1 x Baneblade user posted image
1 x Stormblade user posted image


The pts cost of this army, would be I really don't know to be honest. Its hard to read the IG codex. lol. Can anyone tally it up? Is that how I'm supposed to write an IG list? :P





WiP Predator - Chassis almost finished.
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WiP Chiminator - Leman Russ Turret - Rhino top door bits
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WiP GoC - Every one will have horns and when I buy myself a box of Beastmen everyone will be converted.
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Light blue - Heavy Weapons
Blue - Command Squad
Red - Kaskrin
White - Infantry
Purple - Can't remember his name, lol
Green - Gaunt
Yellow - Pyskers

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2 x Flamers, they are getting gas masks too. :)

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Some guns, althought 4 are about Heavy Weapon size, so I'm hopig to add another 4 HW's soon. :)





Thank you
I would like to thank, SpikeyJames for the opertunity to buy almost all of the guard stuff he was selling...
...Jasevx for the Turret...
...Rictus for the transfers (when I get the Chaos spikes, they are heading your way. :)) and alot of help he has given me via PM :)...
...and Penguin of Death for the bases.



Selling // Trading
1 x Blood Angels Chaplin - Skull Head - GW 1993 [pic]



On the look out For
4 x 60mm Bases
10 x IG Kneeing legs.
Plasticard
Guitar string
Barb wire

Cooper - May 23, 2008 09:50 PM (GMT)
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My small "holding" thing, lol. I'm hoping to buy a table tomorrow. :D



-Cooper



Sorry about the amount of posts. I can only post 12 images at a time. Sorry. :)

crassius47 - May 24, 2008 12:52 AM (GMT)
nice looking black templars, i've tried to get into space marines but always found myself coming back to the IG (more tanks :) ).

if i remember right from my epic days (15 years ago) that a chimera with a battle cannon was called a chimedon but ii think yours might be a bit different

i noticed that on your wanted section that you were after plasticard and barbed wire, i've just got some off barrule and it's quite good and came really quickly and the prices were relativly cheap

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hope that helps, looking forward to more painting

Cooper - May 24, 2008 12:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (crassius47 @ May 24 2008, 12:52 AM)
nice looking black templars, i've tried to get into space marines but always found myself coming back to the IG (more tanks :) ).

if i remember right from my epic days (15 years ago) that a chimera with a battle cannon was called a chimedon but ii think yours might be a bit different

i noticed that on your wanted section that you were after plasticard and barbed wire, i've just got some off barrule and it's quite good and came really quickly and the prices were relativly cheap

barrule

hope that helps, looking forward to more painting

Thanks. I'm going to try and get the Chiminator finished today and post pics later on.

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I've also just got myself a job. :D

I should be starting next weekend and my brother will be teaching me the basics. Sweet.

Rictus - May 24, 2008 02:10 PM (GMT)
With the Gaurd list it looks like you have just picked the things you like the look of (which is not a bad thing) but how does the units fit together in the army you will be fielding?

Is this going to be for regualr 40k games or only going to be fielded in Apoc games? If the former you obviously have too many options in certain areas. Are you using Doctrines as these will effect what the choices you have - espeically in the Elites section.

Techpries Enginseers in a Chaos force - how are you thinking of doing these?

How are you getting five man squads as troops? Are you fielding infantry platoons as these come with a five man command squad and then ten man infantry squads? Or are you fielding Grenadiers - this would involve taking doctinres but this only allows three Grenadier squads to be taken in the Troops section.

It's hard to really comment on your list without knowing how you want to field them or how the units are really organised.

If you are going to be using the full army in Apoc then just go for it and build everything that you fancy as Apoc does not use the force organisation chart but if you want to play an army in regular games you need to decide how the army will be fielded and what options you want to take including doctrines.

Hope that helps.

Cooper - May 24, 2008 11:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rictus @ May 24 2008, 02:10 PM)
With the Gaurd list it looks like you have just picked the things you like the look of (which is not a bad thing) but how does the units fit together in the army you will be fielding?

Is this going to be for regualr 40k games or only going to be fielded in Apoc games? If the former you obviously have too many options in certain areas. Are you using Doctrines as these will effect what the choices you have - espeically in the Elites section.

Techpries Enginseers in a Chaos force - how are you thinking of doing these?

How are you getting five man squads as troops? Are you fielding infantry platoons as these come with a five man command squad and then ten man infantry squads? Or are you fielding Grenadiers - this would involve taking doctinres but this only allows three Grenadier squads to be taken in the Troops section.

It's hard to really comment on your list without knowing how you want to field them or how the units are really organised.

If you are going to be using the full army in Apoc then just go for it and build everything that you fancy as Apoc does not use the force organisation chart but if you want to play an army in regular games you need to decide how the army will be fielded and what options you want to take including doctrines.

Hope that helps.

I did just pick what I liked. lol. I don't have a clue to be honest.

I want to use it for both Regualr battles and the odd Apoc battles. Doctorines?

I liked to name of the model, so I choose it. lol.


I want to have an army, identical to how marines are fielded. The problem is I don't understand how to read the IG Codex. :(

Cooper - May 29, 2008 12:14 AM (GMT)
Quick update.

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Black Templars

The Chiminator has not been finished. I'm working on the horse conversions. I'm working on the Predator.

Can Black Templars have a Death Company?

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I've been working on a few idea's (in my mind, lol) on how to convert IG into Chaos...

Well, instead of normal legs on Heavy Weapon teams... I'm thinking of small wheels (like wheelchairs) and maybe slugs. That's all from me about that. :P


Can my army have banners in each regiment to show what they are part of? Or even that banners stuck into "mud" (bases. :P) and just taken with them?

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Think I found a local shop that sells Plasticard/Wire/Rods and other stuff. So I'm hoping to take a look and see if he does stock that. That way I can get to work on finishing the Land Speeders.


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Thanks, for reading.
-Cooper




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