http://warpstorms.com/general/painting_glazing_tutorial/ It's about using glaze medium and applying it with colours over a white undercoat. Pretty cool.

Looks more like staining to me :(

I thought the point of a glaze was over oither colours to act as a filter.

At last someone wrote how to use glazes in a way I can understand!

Probably is moreso staining then glazing Marse, but i figured i'd post it up because by the looks of it, it produces nice results.

i noticed this one on warseer...hes a good painter, but this technique is iffy in my opinion

since you are using the white primer to "highlight" your colours, if you screw up, you cant fix it, it will never match

next, when applying only a few thin layers over white primer like that, generally you end up with it showing through making your paint job look messier, this doesnt show as well in photos....this happens more so if you dont apply every layer evenly, and any pooling at all, will stain andl show no matter what

and finally, you are limited in what you can do colour wise, because you are relying on the white to brighten your colours

and as i said on warseer:

A glaze, noun, is a substance(a liquid), used in baking, cooking, sculpting, painting

Glazing, verb, is the act of applying diluted paint, usually to blend


when people use them together, its confusing as hell


Starks

Starks, critising his use of words is not only pointless (this is a painting forum) but also wrong on so many levels. Six years work of English A-level taught me that, and if you want I'd be willing to impart that knowledge to you via PM - suffice to say; English is the language you make yourself...

I quite liked the tutorial and I look forward to using it - and its not often I say that about a tutorial..

i was explaining this...and not only that i said its confusing using BOTH together, as they are identical words

when he says glaze, what is he refferring to? his liquid mix, or the act of glazing, which are quite frankly two different things

by all means try it, im simply explaining whats wrong with the method, having painted like it before


Starks

I always figured there was no wrong or right to painting if you liked your own result, but i dunno.

I guess i can see Starks doesnt like the term used incorrectly or doesnt prefer that approach to painting, fair enough, i mean he's got some very good points, and he is a man who knows what he is on about.

Starks, i think the idea of the tutorial is to produce gaming quality miniatures, not so much display level, but good enough from tabletop view, the guy probably mixed the painting terms up, sure, but i wouldnt dismiss it completely i guess. I'm not having a go at you or anything, i think you've brought some great concepts and really informative info to this forum and i for one appreciate it :) I also like your painting a lot and it's clear you're passionate about painting.

That's my 2 cents, i could be wrong though. I'm not trying to pee anyone off or anything, i just posted it as i thought people might like to view it.

Thats cool Tony...I will always get heated responses, and its deserved, because Im trying to dispel all the false information, or provide extra information on painting

theres too many wrongs out there which make everyone think negatively to one thats actually correct(based on facts not opinion)

people associate everything I say to how I choose to paint(display) which is why Im going to paint some army stuff soon, to show how it all relates, no matter what you are painting

I find too often people make tutorials whether they know how to do something well or not(no remorse is a good painter this is not bashing him)

But when everyone is given a say, more often than not too much bad info gets out there and people start believing it...this is what has happened with GWs techniques

Some things have to be taken into context, most tutorials are super specific,and provide no learning, rather a way to repeat what was already done. GW provides a simple way of how to paint gaming figures THEIR WAY, but if you want to go beyond it(in any form whether its nicer TT or display painting) you cant because of how limiting GWs way of painting really is

this technique specifically, can work, its actually in fact the basics for how to paint display pieces(glazes/washes over white primer) which is good, however its equally as limiting because it relies on a specific thing to make it work....this technique will not work as well on certain figures, or with certain colour schemes

however if it works for you by all means!




Starks

Yeah i know what you mean dude.

I probably only paint GW styled stuff which is why i use their guides, but i also try to mix in some of the other styles on the web, and have tried to implement them into my display pieces im working on. When i decide to dive into other minis (i bought a few Hasslefree ones because they have some nice models in their range) i will


I totally agree by what you mean with the tutorials just telling you how to paint SPECIFIC models, it frustrates me when i try to use a technique on one model painting tutorial, on another and it won't work.


I wouldn't take the arguments from people too seriously, they merely just take what you say out of context. Everyone has their own way of painting or doing things i guess.

I like how the goblins came out in this guide, and i might give it a try and a few i have spare. I'll let everyone know how they turn out :)