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SpaT - April 29, 2007 03:56 PM (GMT)

BPL - Broadband Over Power Lines
By Enrique De Argaez, webmaster


Broadband via electrical wires is certainly an encouraging idea since nearly every home in the world is served by power lines. What's more, most residences are threaded with electrical wires terminating in multiple outlets in almost every room. So homeowners can get a high-speed Net connection -- up to 3 megabits per second -- just by plugging a special modem into any outlet. That matches cable modem speeds and outpaces most DSL offerings.

What is BPL?

Broadband over Power Lines (BPL) also goes by a few other names and acronyms: Power Line Communications (PLC, Power Line Telecommunications (PLT), and Power Line Broadband (PLB) are terms also used. Most of these papers and links use the term "BPL." There are a number of types of PLC systems, using different approaches and architecture. All are "carrier-current" systems, a term used to describe systems that intentionally conduct signals over electrical wiring or power lines.

The principle behind BPL is simple: Because electricity courses over just the low-frequency portions of power lines, there's room for data to stream over higher frequencies. For years, utilities have sent basic network-maintenance data across their lines at relatively low data rates. Now, by installing more sophisticated computer chips into the network, they can send and receive fast data streams for more high-bandwidth applications, such as real-time, always-on meter reading. (Say good-bye to the friendly meter reader.) And for the first time they can offer new customer services, such as voice-over-Internet or even video on demand.

That, however, will require significant upgrades of utility substations and power lines. And nobody knows exactly how big an investment will be necessary. First, power companies have to mount boxes on certain utility poles to deliver data signals. Early estimates of installation costs range from $50 to $150 per home passed, plus $30 to $200 more for modems in each home, according to a study by EPRI and its consulting arm, Primen. Internet service provider EarthLink Inc. (ELNK ), which is testing BPL schemes with Con Edison, says that to make money from selling broadband access at $20 to $30 a month, a utility may have to get installation costs down to $20 per home passed and less than $100 per modem.

Given the challenges, utilities will welcome any cost savings from improved energy management. By injecting intelligence into the farthest reaches of the power system, utilities can monitor their networks in ways never before possible. Currently, for example, power companies don't know about local outages until customers report them. With BPL systems watching the flow of data to individual homes, they can pinpoint the neighborhoods without light. While testing residential broadband service in Briarcliff Manor, N.Y. this summer, Con Edison discovered that BPL could help detect impending faults. A residential customer noticed that his Web service was slowing down. Con Edison crews traced the problem to a cracked insulator on a pole next to his house. Now the company is modeling normal circuit conditions, then looking at even slight deviations to spot budding problems on its systems. That's a far cry from periodic street maintenance checks, which Con Edison and others mainly rely on today.

In an era of increasing power usage by computers and other digital devices, many utilities are hoping BPL will bring them closer to an elusive goal: demand management. To encourage conservation, power companies would like to charge customers more during peak demand and less at other times. To bill accordingly, they need to measure how much power a home consumes every minute of the day. BPL could help by taking constant measurements. Some experts argue that existing approaches, using two-way pagers, are good enough and that new wireless options are cheaper. But BPL proponents say their wires are faster and more reliable.

Today the very idea of a smart electrical network is in its infancy. But demand for cheap Web access is mounting and so is the need for better power management. To satisfy both ends, utilities could embrace broadband and bring the electrical system into the Internet Age.

Web Access from Wall Outlets

One day soon, getting a broadband connection at home could be as easy as plugging a cord into an electrical outlet in the wall. The same power lines that deliver electricity to light rooms and run refrigerators will transport messages, music, and video across cyberspace. To link up computers, music players, and TV set top boxes in a home network, people will no longer have to mess with a tangle of wires or Wi-Fi settings. Over the powerlines, they'll have the convenience of plug-and-play.
Many power companies on the US and the world over are exploring so-called broadband over powerline (BPL). BPL deployment would bring more competition to telephone and cable companies that sell web access, more Internet penetration to rural areas and hopefully lower broadband rates for the Broadband Internet users worldwide.

There is Concern: RF Interference

Because power lines are not designed to prevent radiation of RF energy, BPL represents a significant potential interference source for all radio services using this frequency range, including the Amateur Radio Service. Overhead electrical power lines and residential wiring act as antennas that unintentionally radiate the broadband signals as radio signals throughout entire neighborhoods and along roadsides. Interference has been observed nearly one mile from the nearest BPL source.

Others lean on worldwide trial failures as strong evidence that the technology is doomed-for-obsolescence; during its run bringing plenty of trouble (and interference) to areas contemplating the option.


Another link...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_line_communication

iceman - May 2, 2007 08:24 AM (GMT)
We are on this...

Jerim - May 17, 2007 12:46 AM (GMT)
Why get back on wires? everything are wireless already.

SpaT - May 17, 2007 01:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jerim @ May 17 2007, 09:46 AM)
Why get back on wires? everything are wireless already.



internet connectivity is being integrated with your electricity outlet...who needs the expensive fiber optic cables especially in the poor Philippines. With this technology, you can use the existing electric power lines to connect to internet and the web.

nayr - May 17, 2007 01:09 AM (GMT)
look ma... no wires! heheheh....

Jerim - May 17, 2007 06:12 AM (GMT)
pero migs, may smartbro na sa pinas... may GPRS @ 10pesos/30min kung SMART ka :)

SpaT - May 17, 2007 07:35 AM (GMT)
try ko na maka swing ko sa Pinas...

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Comparison:

wired internet vs wireless internet

100Mbs vs 54Mbs

barato vs mahal

stable vs medyo stable

readily available vs hotspots

TABADOA - May 17, 2007 07:42 AM (GMT)
sa singapore may iya na sila nga ginatinguhaan nga magmateriyalisar ini nga idiya sang tawo... sa karon waay pa ulihi nga impormasyon nahanungod sini pero ila na ini ginapadlagan subong sa iban nga gusto mag tilaw kon paano ini ka lig-on kag masaligan pag-abot sa iya kinaiya nga aplikasyon...

ginhambal na ini sang akon sang akon Amay sang ara pa lang ko sa HS.. subong nagmateriyalisar guid man... :thumb:

Linkstatic - May 17, 2007 10:05 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jerim @ May 17 2007, 02:12 PM)
pero migs, may smartbro na sa pinas... may GPRS @ 10pesos/30min kung SMART ka :)

libre gani sa Globe basta indi ka lang mag download hehehehe....

dY!pte - May 18, 2007 12:53 PM (GMT)
im using smart 3G...

ok lang galing hinay kung mag download ka!

aubrom - May 19, 2007 03:14 AM (GMT)
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/bpl.htm

more info para sa BPL (Broadband over Power Lines) rockon

nayr - May 19, 2007 03:36 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
"Power lines, on the other hand, have no shielding. In many cases, a power line is a bare wire, or a wire coated in plastic. The lack of shielding is where the interference concern comes from."


* http://computer.howstuffworks.com/bpl.htm


amo lng ni gling ang problema....

basi kmo plng mka solve sini, dako gd nga bulig...

ismagel - July 5, 2007 02:43 PM (GMT)
Tapos daw ka kululbaan mana mag troubleshoot sang linya inkaso magka problema man.... hehehe :D

espatepeppen - August 17, 2007 06:15 PM (GMT)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_line_communication

this is now very possible, i am seeing many electronic/computer stores selling PLC adaptors dri sa Tokyo.

vector - August 18, 2007 12:01 AM (GMT)
I have a friend who works in a BPL company here in the Philippines they are already conducting Pilot Projects in Bataan and other provinces.

What they do is they contact Electric Cooperatives and present to them this project.
According to him it usually costs around 50 M to run this project per Electric Cooperative.

Actually the friend im talking about is a former student of TUPV (ME) but did not graduate dahil bumagsak sa Physics (guess who is the trainor? hahahah) pero lampas na 100K sweldo nya in fairness hahahahhaha

I'll get more information from my friend and get back to you guys on this.

VECTOR

espatepeppen - August 30, 2007 09:22 AM (GMT)
Right now may ga usar na sini nga technology but mostly for home networking pa lng. Mahal ang initial cost nya.

nami ni sya testingan sa mga student dormitories

chomper - September 12, 2007 02:01 AM (GMT)
hi guyz!

try www.nextreambroadband.com their pilot project is at Bataan right now and I think they will be hooking up Kabankalan, Antique and Cebu....

BPL os now in the Philippines.......................

chomper - September 12, 2007 02:03 AM (GMT)
hi VECTOR!

Who's that friend? I think kilala ko and 100K nga salary? I think wrong info...... sorry!

Poksie - September 12, 2007 09:05 AM (GMT)
di xa limited sa bandwidth?

daw dugay na ni xa bala nga na discuss.. good thing nga gaka realize na...




^bedbuG^ - October 17, 2007 06:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (vector @ Aug 18 2007, 08:01 AM)
I have a friend who works in a BPL company here in the Philippines they are already conducting Pilot Projects in Bataan and other provinces.

What they do is they contact Electric Cooperatives and present to them this project.
According to him it usually costs around 50 M to run this project per Electric Cooperative.

Actually the friend im talking about is a former student of TUPV (ME) but did not graduate dahil bumagsak sa Physics (guess who is the trainor? hahahah) pero lampas na 100K sweldo nya in fairness hahahahhaha

I'll get more information from my friend and get back to you guys on this.

VECTOR

i'm SURE VECTOR you have a very wrong information got from your friend.... mangkot lng ko kung sin-o sya pra ma confirm ko bi? pwede? hehehehe!!!
grabe mn nga tag P100k gid yah ang sweldo? tani manggaranon na ko eh.. kay i'm working for the company you mentioned as a NETWORK ADMINISTRATOR kag tanan nga swelduhanay daw bal-an ko isa pa di pa na pwede kahatag ang company namon sa amo na kadako kay di pa kami fully commercial eh...

bali pilot plang na ubra namon sa Bataan (PENELCO) and also in batangas (BATELEC 1), mga electric cooperative ni sila tanan. since na sila ang tag-iya sa mga linya sa ila kami nag partner, and may mga in-building solution man kami nga mga project siguro na palaabuton sa metro manila ah.

if you have question just PM me ah..
by the way most of the System administrator kag Network Administrator mga proud ILONGGO......

jerber - November 10, 2007 05:51 AM (GMT)
nice BPL technology. so this means pati vresco mahimo na ISP kung maupdate sila? ehehehe. ayus ah!




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