Oh, and then there is that Ft. Hood thingie I have to address. 12 troops dead, and the CIC plays grab ass and politics with sycophants.

"...now watch this drive..."

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Any response from the "My Pet Goat" crowd?

apparently he has learned not to make blatant, misguided, and destructive assumtions from the last time he "didn't have all the facts"...

I'm really not sure what the criticism is here. At the time of the remarks, he apparently didn't have much more info than any of us had and I am unclear as to what he could have said differently or how he could have said it more compassionately absent more information or info that he could share. Is the argument that he shouldn't have addressed the Tribal Conference at all? That he should have spoken about the FT Hood Shooting before making the introductory remarks?

Pet Goat indeed.

it's just another obvious cheap ploy to attack a president who did nothing wrong.

comparison to Bush's reaction on 9/11? absolutely pathetic...

Actually, the my pet goat criticism is absolutely pathetic as well.


But when you left wing extremist hacks act the way you do, you're going to get the same unfair treatment you gave thrown back.

You leftist nuts brought this on yourself. I hope you're happy.

I'm a charter member of the MPGC...

obama was briefed on the shootings prior to this appearance...I would have preferred that he opened with "before I get to my prepared remarks..."

Exhibit A - the board's biggest dumbass who actually thinks it's meaningful to compare the events on 9/11 to a random act of violence

I didn't say it was meaningful nor did i compare the two. I said partisan hacks like yourself brought on this type of response. So deal with it.

You're a dumb fuck and liar though, so I'm not surprised you would make up such stupidity.

a united states army soldier, in a time of war, guns down other united states army soldiers on the largest united states army post, within the united states...

and that's a random act of violence?

solid analysis, kenneth...

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-...-President.html

The more you think about, the more the joking around was wrong.

The people who died while not his fault, are still his employees. He is the President.

He was briefed on the situation 3.5 hours earlier. He knew that his soldiers were dead. Instead of a somber tone, he yucks it up and then gets to the dead soldiers.

It crass and un-Presidential. Basically, it's Obama in a nutshell.

OK, fair. But I think he basically did that after a couple words spoken to his immediate audience.

Worthy of outrage and ridicule? Not sure of that.

epic fail

I hear that Dr. Joe Medicine Crow was around, and so I want to give a shout out to that Congressional Medal of Honor winner.

Well, except....

...Joe Medicine Crow didn’t win the Congressional Medal of Honor. He won the Presidential Medal of Freedom (given to him by Obama, no less) and the Congressional Gold Medal…

Ugh. Is he kidding?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/06/...in5549394.shtml

allahu akbar!

disgruntled my ass.

:<_<:

He didn't appear to be "yucking it up." You might want to think about where he was and the composition of his immediate audience. Robert George suggested that he should have canceled the Tribal Conference over this, which would have been disrespectful and unnecessary.

Even with 3.5 hrs of info, many of the details took a good deal of time to sort out. Only this morning are many of the facts coming into focus. Even with the government knowing more and earlier than we did, I think it is asking a lot for him to say much more of substance than what he said.

Come on. Do you really want to sink to the level of the peanut gallery? Save your outrages for something of substance.

Obama sure picks winners to pal around with! No wonder Obama took his time getting to this massacre.

http://bobmccarty.com/2009/11/05/army-majo...ial-transition/

I don't give a fuck where he was. Soldiers are slain, and their boss is thanking people with a smile on his face.

It's un-Presidential and is worth ridicule. How long does it have a somber moment to address this tragedy prior to going into campaign mode? He's the CIC, for fuck's sake.

Now that is fucked up.

His employees were killed. Employees he presides over. (Not saying it is his fault)

He should have gone to the event, a more somber tone should have been given beforehand. After that, he could have commenced with his 24 hour presidential campaigning.

Molehill, meet mountain.

I give the president a lot of credit for speaking at that event and making it a priority. I think his comments were appropriate. I suppose you can argue, as pvn does, that he should have gotten to it earlier.

That said, I think our time is better spent understanding what happened at Ft Hood and helping the victims and their families. My two cents.

I consider this another attack in a war that people want to pretend isn't happening.

The fact that this sleeper made it all the way to a role, however large, in the President's transition team is disturbing. Who is vetting these people?

Sleeper?

Yes, sleeper. He waited for his moment and pounced while saying "Allah Akbar". He was on the FBI's radar prior to this for some postings on the internet.

Let's just pretend he was "disgruntled" like every other Muslim kook who goes on a shooting spree, or the Egyptian air pilot in 1999 who crashed his plane with 100 Americans into the ocean.

They are just "disgruntled". Somebody called Hasan a "camel jockey" according to his family!

This is the part of Obama that I very much have a problem with.
His need to make all of the people happy, all of the time.

Regardless of where he was or what the mood was supposed to be, there was absolutely no need to continue with the empty chatter and smiles after knowing of the tragedy that occurred... and that he was about to comment on it.

If he was concerned about hurting anyone's feelings, he should have considered what type of a fucking self absorbed asshole would have allowed themselves to be hurt or offended over 'having to deal with hearing' of this horrendous incident.

It's my opinion that THIS is why nothing is getting done in the timely manner of which I expected it to get done under Obama. He seems to be a wonderful man with all the right compassion... but he really needs to stop giving a fuck about rustling up a few feathers, and instead push forward in doing all the right things.

:o Is that you Kali? :P

Seriously though, I felt the same way with Bush at times. The amnesty bit was the last draw though.

Bush lost most of us with that amnesty garbage. It's why his approval was so low at the end. I certainly didn't approve of the job he was doing.

Don't forget Medicare Prescription Drug Act.

Yes... it's me. And you'll know it by our separate definitions of "doing all the right things". :D

I completely agree with you.

Are you kidding me?