So, will this make the Titans better or worse? Or equally as inept as they've been so far this year? As a Texas fan, I'd really like to see Vince succeed, but his attitude hasn't exactly been great. :?:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4605172

He can't play defense, so it won't really help them.

Its a good move to see if he's worth keeping though.

Pepsi is right. This basically means that they'll be able to figure out whether or not they take a QB in the top 5 next spring.

If Young does well (hint: he probably won't), then they might want to look elsewhere in the draft.

Regardless, Kerry Collins' career is basically over.

He wasn't worth drafting. He's going to play the same one-dimensional style that Vick does. Same for rookie Josh in T.B.

I can picture Kerry hanging on for 2-3 more seasons in Tenn. or elsewhere. He's a '95 draft pick, Favre was '91, fwiw.

The real question is do I draft the Jax D for a single week explosion of D/St points???

100% accurate :yup:

He also has a real hard time playing QB, but I guess that's irrelevant.

defense isnt the titans only problem

if he can chew the clock and keep the d off the field, then he definately will help.


BUT

i dont think that headcase is part of a solution either

Because Kerry Collins and Brett Favre are roughly equal in terms of their productivity...

Tennessee is giving up 30+ ppg, that's hard for any QB to keep up with.

true, but the offense is doing nothing to keep the defense off the field

While I agree with you VY going out there and throwing picks to the opposing D certainly isnt going to help matters.

Unless Young has moved his release point upwards about a foot and underwent brain surgery, he is not the answer.

Not at all. It's that he's a couple years younger, and there's a few starting QBs in the league who are much worse than Collins. Including Vince Young. He can't do anything a decent RB can't do. Continually running around pretending you're going to pass is going to lead to fumbles and injuries.

This is a case of QB Collins getting too much blame when things go wrong. Things won't become any more right with Vince "Legs" Young at the helm.

Someone else to consider if available, I picked up the ARI. DEF this week, hosting the Panthers. They've also been decent up to this point, and have upcoming favorable match-ups (including Tenn. in week 12.) I plan on riding them rest of the way.

Another good unit to consider is Minnesota, who has a week 9 bye coming up, and may end up on the waiver wire due to that. But they shouldn't.

I ended up picking up Dallas, who will be playing Seattle (hopefully without Hasselback).

I don't think Collins is getting more blame for the teams troubles than he deserves. Everyone I've heard talking about Tennessee acknowledges there are lots of problems with the Titans and that Collins isn't the biggest. But replacing a QB is bigger than replacing any other position both on the field and in the locker room.

This is about changing the locker room mindset and not about expecting immediate results on the field.

The locker room mindset, post-Collins, is going to be "Damn, we still suck." We might even see Collins again this year, in a tight game. One that the defense will have kept them in, not Young.

Tenn. is one of a handful of NFL teams that put entirely too much stock in fleet-footed Magic Negro college QBs a few years ago.

Yeah. And look where they are now because of that decision![/sarcasm]

From the NFL site. 1 passing TD in his last 159 attempts? If he can keep this monster ratio up, he's on pace for double digit (10) TDs in only 1,500 attempts.
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The Titans get Young

The Tennessee Titans have decided to give a second chance to former first-round pick Vince Young. Actually, the decision was mandated by owner Bud Adams. What are the pressure points for this decision? Does it wreck the longest-standing relationship between head coach and owner in the NFL? Jeff Fisher's tenure in Tennessee may come to an end over the Young decision, but in the meantime he will work hard to help Young experience success.

Will the Titans receivers know what to do when Young scrambles? Will this move force the Jaguars to adjust their game plan? It will, but the Jaguars also know that Young has thrown just one touchdown pass in his last 159 attempts. Don't forget that it was the Jaguars against whom Young made his last start, and it was after that when the Titans opted to go with Kerry Collins.

It's not just what VY has done. It's also what Collins has done. You're not risking wins by benching Collins. There's not much more damage that can be done by seeing what the young guy can do.

You know where Kerry would be a good fit these days?

Carolina.

Another really bad prediction by Prowling.

The titans won today but I think CJ's 2 TD's and 218 yds on the ground as well as the D limiting the Jags to 13 had more to do with that than VY. That said for whatever reason the team played better today than they had since week one against the Steelers. Whether that had to do with VY or just them playing a bad Jags team I dont know. We will see in the weeks ahead I guess. One thing that VY did better than Collins for sure this week was converting 3rd downs.

One bad black QB was luckier than the other bad black QB he played against today. One of them HAD to win. Just ax McNadd.

Next year, when VY makes the Pro Bowl while leading the Titans to the AFCC, just remember who called it first...

LOL ok. Like his "pro bowl" rookie year?

Better, even.

The liberals were not to be denied their great black QB.

No doubt Johnson was the driving force behind the win but (judging from the numbers because I didn't see it)it looks like VY played well.

I would hope because his rookie year numbers were less like a pro bowler's and more like a shit bowler. His selection that year was based solely on hype.

19-11 as a starter. You haters out there listen to too much ESPN, and don't trust your own eyes. That is, if you've ever watched a game with VY as the starter.

(sorry btw for the delayed response, but I've been out of town all weekend and just got home) :?:

YEAR TEAM G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT
2006 TEN 15 184 357 51.5 2199 6.2 12 53 13 66.7


Those are Vince's "probowl" year numbers. You will notice he had more Int's than TD's less than 3k yds and a barely above 50 completion percentage. Name another "probowl" QB with numbers even remotly this bad. Kerry Collins took basically the same team to 13-3 last year. Just saying.

I question the objectivity of anybody who suggests that 19-11 has anything to do with Young. If there was ever a case of a team winning in spite of a QB, it was the Titans.

He makes poor decisions and cannot throw the ball. But, other than that, he is a good QB.

How was your flight? :wink:

http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2009/11/01/...51721257105615/

Drive actually. 9 freakin' hours. I *WISH* I had flown, and coming from me, that's saying a lot. :yup:

I get that, I mean, I'll admit, I'm biased, I'm a fan, I have vested interest in the team. The good news is, you don't have to take my word for it, you have this;

btw, Brett Favre has the career record in wins, why is it I'm suddenly not remembering people point out the fact that none of HIS career wins came all by himself, but were in fact, a team effort? That's sooooo puzzling, what am I not seeing here? Please advise....

Oh, and someone mentioned Chris Johnson's career day having an effect on this game, well, CJ's also had a 197 and a 128 yard game this season and both were losses for the Titans. Hmmm, wonder what exactly was the difference between those games and yesterday's game....whatever could that one difference be.....?

:chinstroke:

Seriuosly Bucky, VY is more likely to throw a pick than he is a TD, and everytime he throw's the ball it's a 50/50 shot to be completed. He's also fumbled more than he's scored on the ground. His CAREER passing yds are equal to Drew Brees' numbers from last year. Tell me again this fool is a "pro bowler". I dont care what his team's record is. As far as Favre goes without him the Pack doesnt win a SB, nor are they nearly as successful, Kerry Collins was 13-3 with the Titans last year. So if you want to tell me VY is as good as Kerry Collins I will agree with you.

Granted a win is a win, especially the 1st one of the year. But they were at home against the Jags who were probably the worst 3-3 team in league history.