Title: Cooling Rejection
fridaygolfer - October 28, 2009 07:19 PM (GMT)
JohnDough - October 29, 2009 03:51 PM (GMT)
Statistics experts = climate scientists
fridaygolfer - October 29, 2009 06:48 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 03:51 PM) |
| Statistics experts = climate scientists |
statistics experts + climate scientists
Clarence Boddicker - October 29, 2009 07:18 PM (GMT)
You know who tried to reject the cooling?
CRYO-CON SIMON PHOENIX!
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BE WELL, JOHN SPARTAN! :B):
JohnDough - October 29, 2009 07:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 11:48 AM) |
| statistics experts + climate scientists |
In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what the numbers represented
:fool:
fridaygolfer - October 29, 2009 08:49 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 07:43 PM) |
In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what the numbers represented
:fool: |
and........
JohnDough - October 29, 2009 09:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 01:49 PM) |
| QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 07:43 PM) | In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what the numbers represented
:fool: |
and........
|
Dork. You referenced an AP article. The AP chose FOUR statiticians.
Dork.
fridaygolfer - October 29, 2009 10:23 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 09:41 PM) |
| QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 01:49 PM) | | QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 07:43 PM) | In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what the numbers represented
:fool: |
and........
|
Dork. You referenced an AP article. The AP chose FOUR statiticians.
Dork.
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which is close to the number of actual climate scientists who deny the consensus. dork.
if a small number of proponents is enough to sway you one way, then don't think you can have it both ways. dork.
if there was any slight trend at all to cooling, one statistician of their caliber would be enough to spot it.
homina homina homina
:fool: :lol:
JohnDough - October 30, 2009 03:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 03:23 PM) |
| QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 09:41 PM) | | QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 01:49 PM) | | QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 07:43 PM) | In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what the numbers represented
:fool: |
and........
|
Dork. You referenced an AP article. The AP chose FOUR statiticians.
Dork.
|
which is close to the number of actual climate scientists who deny the consensus. dork.
if a small number of proponents is enough to sway you one way, then don't think you can have it both ways. dork.
if there was any slight trend at all to cooling, one statistician of their caliber would be enough to spot it.
homina homina homina
:fool: :lol:
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I just like how you cherry pick the articles that suit your needs. You have always whined that "climate experts agree" yet in the AP aticle you post there were four people who have no background in "climate science".
Hack.
fridaygolfer - October 30, 2009 05:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 30 2009, 03:40 PM) |
| QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 03:23 PM) | | QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 09:41 PM) | | QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 01:49 PM) | | QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 07:43 PM) | In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what the numbers represented
:fool: |
and........
|
Dork. You referenced an AP article. The AP chose FOUR statiticians.
Dork.
|
which is close to the number of actual climate scientists who deny the consensus. dork.
if a small number of proponents is enough to sway you one way, then don't think you can have it both ways. dork.
if there was any slight trend at all to cooling, one statistician of their caliber would be enough to spot it.
homina homina homina
:fool: :lol:
|
I just like how you cherry pick the articles that suit your needs. You have always whined that "climate experts agree" yet in the AP aticle you post there were four people who have no background in "climate science".
Hack.
|
what a doo-doo head.
it was about numbers, jethro.
JohnDough - October 30, 2009 07:51 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 30 2009, 10:32 AM) |
| QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 30 2009, 03:40 PM) | | QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 03:23 PM) | | QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 09:41 PM) | | QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 01:49 PM) | | QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 07:43 PM) | In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what the numbers represented
:fool: |
and........
|
Dork. You referenced an AP article. The AP chose FOUR statiticians.
Dork.
|
which is close to the number of actual climate scientists who deny the consensus. dork.
if a small number of proponents is enough to sway you one way, then don't think you can have it both ways. dork.
if there was any slight trend at all to cooling, one statistician of their caliber would be enough to spot it.
homina homina homina
:fool: :lol:
|
I just like how you cherry pick the articles that suit your needs. You have always whined that "climate experts agree" yet in the AP aticle you post there were four people who have no background in "climate science".
Hack.
|
what a doo-doo head.
it was about numbers, jethro.
|
So?
You just liked it because you think 4 guys hand-picked by the AP means we are still melting.
fridaygolfer - October 30, 2009 07:56 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 30 2009, 07:51 PM) |
| QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 30 2009, 10:32 AM) | | QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 30 2009, 03:40 PM) | | QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 03:23 PM) | | QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 09:41 PM) | | QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 01:49 PM) | | QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 07:43 PM) | In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what the numbers represented
:fool: |
and........
|
Dork. You referenced an AP article. The AP chose FOUR statiticians.
Dork.
|
which is close to the number of actual climate scientists who deny the consensus. dork.
if a small number of proponents is enough to sway you one way, then don't think you can have it both ways. dork.
if there was any slight trend at all to cooling, one statistician of their caliber would be enough to spot it.
homina homina homina
:fool: :lol:
|
I just like how you cherry pick the articles that suit your needs. You have always whined that "climate experts agree" yet in the AP aticle you post there were four people who have no background in "climate science".
Hack.
|
what a doo-doo head.
it was about numbers, jethro.
|
So?
You just liked it because you think 4 guys hand-picked by the AP means we are still melting.
|
you can lead a jacka..er, horse, to water....................
obviously this isn't about science or data or evidence for you.
JohnDough - October 30, 2009 09:56 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 30 2009, 12:56 PM) |
| QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 30 2009, 07:51 PM) | | QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 30 2009, 10:32 AM) | | QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 30 2009, 03:40 PM) | | QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 03:23 PM) | | QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 09:41 PM) | | QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 29 2009, 01:49 PM) | | QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 29 2009, 07:43 PM) | In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what the numbers represented
:fool: |
and........
|
Dork. You referenced an AP article. The AP chose FOUR statiticians.
Dork.
|
which is close to the number of actual climate scientists who deny the consensus. dork.
if a small number of proponents is enough to sway you one way, then don't think you can have it both ways. dork.
if there was any slight trend at all to cooling, one statistician of their caliber would be enough to spot it.
homina homina homina
:fool: :lol:
|
I just like how you cherry pick the articles that suit your needs. You have always whined that "climate experts agree" yet in the AP aticle you post there were four people who have no background in "climate science".
Hack.
|
what a doo-doo head.
it was about numbers, jethro.
|
So?
You just liked it because you think 4 guys hand-picked by the AP means we are still melting.
|
you can lead a jacka..er, horse, to water....................
obviously this isn't about science or data or evidence for you.
|
Since we are melting there should be plenty of water.
fridaygolfer - October 31, 2009 11:00 PM (GMT)
and yet more proof rebutted with "oh yeah?"
:rolleyes:
fridaygolfer - November 4, 2009 02:41 PM (GMT)
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JohnDough - November 5, 2009 06:57 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Nov 4 2009, 07:41 AM) |
| ........................... |
The new hockey stick?
fridaygolfer - November 5, 2009 07:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JohnDough @ Nov 5 2009, 06:57 PM) |
| The new hockey stick? |
:lol:
Space Monkey - November 10, 2009 06:50 PM (GMT)
This study drips with irony. I have no doubt that temp data from 1880 to the present shows no significant cooling trend. Likewise, I have no doubt that temp data from the early 1800s shows no significant warming trend.
The criticisms of the cooling argument are precisely the criticisms many "infidel unbelievers" have in the warming argument.
Funny how that works, no?
| QUOTE |
| If you look at the data and sort of cherry-pick a micro-trend within a bigger trend, that technique is particularly suspect," said John Grego, a professor of statistics at the University of South Carolina. |
Pot, meet kettle
| QUOTE |
| people coming at the data with preconceived notions," said Peterson, author of the book "Why Did They Do That? An Introduction to Forensic Decision Analysis." |
Show me a statistical study going back much earlier than the cherry picked date of 1880, that adjusts for urban heat and shows that temperature change is the lagging variable behind Co2 changes; then I will be a very skeptical believer. I will be a true believer when reliable temperature data can be obtained for a long enough period to repeat the above; right now the data set has needed too many corrections for any analysis to be truly reliable.
fridaygolfer - November 11, 2009 07:06 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Space Monkey @ Nov 10 2009, 06:50 PM) |
This study drips with irony. I have no doubt that temp data from 1880 to the present shows no significant cooling trend. Likewise, I have no doubt that temp data from the early 1800s shows no significant warming trend.
The criticisms of the cooling argument are precisely the criticisms many "infidel unbelievers" have in the warming argument.
Funny how that works, no?
Pot, meet kettle
Show me a statistical study going back much earlier than the cherry picked date of 1880, that adjusts for urban heat and shows that temperature change is the lagging variable behind Co2 changes; then I will be a very skeptical believer. I will be a true believer when reliable temperature data can be obtained for a long enough period to repeat the above; right now the data set has needed too many corrections for any analysis to be truly reliable. |
oooohh. professor irwin corey is with us.