| QUOTE (JohnDough @ Oct 12 2009, 07:04 PM) |
| The bottom line is: the observed warming over the last decade is 100% consistent with the expected anthropogenic warming trend of 0.2 ºC per decade, superimposed with short-term natural variability. It is no different in this respect from the two decades before. And with an El Niño developing in the Pacific right now, we wouldn’t be surprised if more temperature records were to be broken over the coming year or so. LOL. When it gets warmer the causes are man-made. When it gets cooler it is considered a "natural variation" Priceless. |
| QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 12 2009, 12:57 PM) | ||
Stefan Rahmstorf Filed under: * Contributor Bio's — stefan @ 6 December 2004 Stefan Rahmstorf A physicist and oceanographer by training, Stefan Rahmstorf has moved from early work in general relativity theory to working on climate issues. He has done research at the New Zealand Oceanographic Institute, at the Institute of Marine Science in Kiel and since 1996 at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany (in Potsdam near Berlin). His work focuses on the role of ocean currents in climate change, past and present. In 1999 Rahmstorf was awarded the $ 1 million Centennial Fellowship Award of the US-based James S. McDonnell foundation. Since 2000 he teaches physics of the oceans as a professor at Potsdam University. Rahmstorf is a member of the Advisory Council on Global Change of the German government and of the Academia Europaea. He is a lead author of the paleoclimate chapter of the 4th assessment report of the IPCC. Professor of Physics of the Oceans, Potsdam University Head of Earth System Analysis, PIK Honorary Fellow of the University of Wales/Bangor Member of the Academia Europaea Member of the German Advisory Council on Global Change (WBGU) and johnnybisquik ............................................... |
| QUOTE (ChampsX5 @ Oct 12 2009, 06:46 PM) |
| Not once did I ever hear about a cooling period. All I ever heard from the scare-mongers was how the warming would get worse with each passing year. Now that there hasn't been any warming for the last decade, they're claiming they predicted it. Show me an article from 10 years ago that says as much and I'll believe them. Otherwise they're a bunch of liars. |
| QUOTE (ChampsX5 @ Oct 12 2009, 11:46 PM) |
| Not once did I ever hear about a cooling period. All I ever heard from the scare-mongers was how the warming would get worse with each passing year. Now that there hasn't been any warming for the last decade, they're claiming they predicted it. Show me an article from 10 years ago that says as much and I'll believe them. Otherwise they're a bunch of liars. |
| QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 13 2009, 06:42 AM) | ||
many if not most did champs. when i get back from work i'll look them up. again. and again. and again. i'm sure. |
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| QUOTE (fridaygolfer @ Oct 14 2009, 07:05 AM) |
| sorry. life's full you know. http://williamcalvin.com/1990s/1998AtlanticClimate.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_t...ine_circulation The idea of a global cooling as the result of global warming was already proposed in the 1990s.[27] In 2003, the Office of Net Assessment at the United States Department of Defense was commissioned to produce a study on the likely and potential effects of a modern climate change, especially of a shutdown of thermohaline circulation.[28] The study, conducted under ONA head Andrew Marshall, modelled its prospective climate change on the 8.2 kiloyear event, precisely because it was the middle alternative between the Younger Dryas and the Little Ice Age. The study caused controversy in the media when it was made public in 2004.[29][30] However, scientists acknowledge that “abrupt climate change initiated by GIS melting is not a realistic scenario for the 21st century.”[31]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling and just about all say they expect oscillations in the global mean temperature... phone.. |