Title: 2-17, 1 INT. 15.1 rating
MagnusBuchan - October 11, 2009 08:24 PM (GMT)
and Derek Anderson gets the WIN.
"Dregs bowls" rule.
Frank Pentangelli - October 11, 2009 08:30 PM (GMT)
ComandantePepsi - October 11, 2009 08:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Frank Pentangelli @ Oct 11 2009, 12:30 PM) |
| Leafian |
Isn't that actually double Leaf's performance against KC?
Prowling - October 11, 2009 10:47 PM (GMT)
Anderson's 2 for 17 is the most remarkable stat of the day.
Willieisdead - October 12, 2009 04:31 PM (GMT)
MyNameIs_Mud - October 12, 2009 11:34 PM (GMT)
9 drops as well on the 15 incompletions.
What a horrible team.
MyNameIs_Mud - October 13, 2009 03:59 PM (GMT)
Cleveland should sign the white dude in Favre's Wrangler add who is always uncovered. You know, the guy who dives into the puddle to catch the ball.
The guy cannot be covered.
ComandantePepsi - October 18, 2009 11:41 PM (GMT)
Derek Anderson threw down the Gauntlet of Suck, but Kerry Collins has responded!
2-12, -7 yards, 1 INT, 4.9 rating
Bucky7 - October 18, 2009 11:52 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ComandantePepsi @ Oct 18 2009, 11:41 PM) |
Derek Anderson threw down the Gauntlet of Suck, but Kerry Collins has responded!
2-12, -7 yards, 1 INT, 4.9 rating |
Yet they have more 'confidence' in Kerry than Vince. What the fuck am I not seeing....? :angry: :think: :cry:
CHAZBUKOWSKI - October 18, 2009 11:57 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Bucky7 @ Oct 19 2009, 08:52 AM) |
| QUOTE (ComandantePepsi @ Oct 18 2009, 11:41 PM) | Derek Anderson threw down the Gauntlet of Suck, but Kerry Collins has responded!
2-12, -7 yards, 1 INT, 4.9 rating |
Yet they have more 'confidence' in Kerry than Vince. What the fuck am I not seeing....? :angry: :think: :cry:
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Possibly because, even as bleh as Collins has been this year, his numbers look a lot like Young's numbers over his career.
Bucky7 - October 19, 2009 01:14 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (CHAZBUKOWSKI @ Oct 18 2009, 11:57 PM) |
| QUOTE (Bucky7 @ Oct 19 2009, 08:52 AM) | | QUOTE (ComandantePepsi @ Oct 18 2009, 11:41 PM) | Derek Anderson threw down the Gauntlet of Suck, but Kerry Collins has responded!
2-12, -7 yards, 1 INT, 4.9 rating |
Yet they have more 'confidence' in Kerry than Vince. What the fuck am I not seeing....? :angry: :think: :cry:
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Possibly because, even as bleh as Collins has been this year, his numbers look a lot like Young's numbers over his career.
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As a starter for the Titans, Kerry Collins is 13-12, a .520 winning percentage. Vince Young, 18-11, .621.
In my mind, those are the only numbers that matter.... :yup:
CHAZBUKOWSKI - October 19, 2009 10:57 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Bucky7 @ Oct 19 2009, 10:14 AM) |
| QUOTE (CHAZBUKOWSKI @ Oct 18 2009, 11:57 PM) | | QUOTE (Bucky7 @ Oct 19 2009, 08:52 AM) | | QUOTE (ComandantePepsi @ Oct 18 2009, 11:41 PM) | Derek Anderson threw down the Gauntlet of Suck, but Kerry Collins has responded!
2-12, -7 yards, 1 INT, 4.9 rating |
Yet they have more 'confidence' in Kerry than Vince. What the fuck am I not seeing....? :angry: :think: :cry:
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Possibly because, even as bleh as Collins has been this year, his numbers look a lot like Young's numbers over his career.
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As a starter for the Titans, Kerry Collins is 13-12, a .520 winning percentage. Vince Young, 18-11, .621.
In my mind, those are the only numbers that matter.... :yup:
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TEAM wins. Plus, it takes an amazingly biased viewpoint to think the Titans were winning those games because of Young, and not in spite of him.
Couchpotato - October 19, 2009 02:45 PM (GMT)
Young did have a 50% completion percentage yesterday. Unfortunately for him his only completed pass went to the other team. Add that in with the fumble that should have been a safety ( the refs bailed him out on that one) and I think you will see why. VY sucks. The argument could be made that he's worse than J Russell.
CHAZBUKOWSKI - October 19, 2009 03:00 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Couchpotato @ Oct 19 2009, 11:45 PM) |
| Young did have a 50% completion percentage yesterday. Unfortunately for him his only completed pass went to the other team. Add that in with the fumble that should have been a safety ( the refs bailed him out on that one) and I think you will see why. VY sucks. The argument could be made that he's worse than J Russell. |
Remarkable athlete, just not a QB. He was red-flagged in college because of that delivery, but you knew somebody would take a chance on him.
Harrison Bergeron - October 19, 2009 03:39 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Couchpotato @ Oct 19 2009, 07:45 AM) |
| Young did have a 50% completion percentage yesterday. Unfortunately for him his only completed pass went to the other team. Add that in with the fumble that should have been a safety ( the refs bailed him out on that one) and I think you will see why. VY sucks. The argument could be made that he's worse than J Russell. |
Vince Young was 18-11 as a starter. That isn't "sucking", not by a long stretch. Other than his emotional stability, there's no real reason he shouldn't be a starter right now. Comparing him to Jamarcus Russell is just crazy, they're not even close. I wouldn't read too much into how he played, after riding the bench for over a year, coming late into a game in the snow that you're already losing by over fifty points.
Depending on his mental state, Young can still become a good QB in the NFL, and quite frankly Fisher's obsession with starting Collins over him is absurd, for a team with that much talent to be that bad points to coaching as a big part of the problem. Yes, like most young QBs he has a lot to work on, but he also has a lot to work with, and it is WAAAYYYY too soon to give up on him.
MyNameIs_Mud - October 19, 2009 08:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Harrison Bergeron @ Oct 19 2009, 08:39 AM) |
Vince Young was 18-11 as a starter. That isn't "sucking", not by a long stretch. Other than his emotional stability, there's no real reason he shouldn't be a starter right now. Comparing him to Jamarcus Russell is just crazy, they're not even close. I wouldn't read too much into how he played, after riding the bench for over a year, coming late into a game in the snow that you're already losing by over fifty points.
Depending on his mental state, Young can still become a good QB in the NFL, and quite frankly Fisher's obsession with starting Collins over him is absurd, for a team with that much talent to be that bad points to coaching as a big part of the problem. Yes, like most young QBs he has a lot to work on, but he also has a lot to work with, and it is WAAAYYYY too soon to give up on him. |
In his 29 games, Young has ...
22 TD passes/32 INT
been sacked 53 times
has thrown for less than 5000 yards total
Has a 67.8 QB rating
Kerry Collins obviously is done in Tennessee, but it's not like Young was even an average starting QB when given the opportunity, and he seems to have regressed over the past few years.
Bucky7 - October 19, 2009 10:36 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (MyNameIs_Mud @ Oct 19 2009, 08:19 PM) |
| QUOTE (Harrison Bergeron @ Oct 19 2009, 08:39 AM) | Vince Young was 18-11 as a starter. That isn't "sucking", not by a long stretch. Other than his emotional stability, there's no real reason he shouldn't be a starter right now. Comparing him to Jamarcus Russell is just crazy, they're not even close. I wouldn't read too much into how he played, after riding the bench for over a year, coming late into a game in the snow that you're already losing by over fifty points.
Depending on his mental state, Young can still become a good QB in the NFL, and quite frankly Fisher's obsession with starting Collins over him is absurd, for a team with that much talent to be that bad points to coaching as a big part of the problem. Yes, like most young QBs he has a lot to work on, but he also has a lot to work with, and it is WAAAYYYY too soon to give up on him. |
In his 29 games, Young has ...
22 TD passes/32 INT
been sacked 53 times
has thrown for less than 5000 yards total
Has a 67.8 QB rating
Kerry Collins obviously is done in Tennessee, but it's not like Young was even an average starting QB when given the opportunity, and he seems to have regressed over the past few years.
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In his 4 games, Stafford has ...
3 TD passes/6 INT
been sacked 10 times
has thrown for less than 1000 yards total
Has a 65.5 QB rating
Guess the Lions should go ahead and abandon ship too eh?
MagnusBuchan - October 20, 2009 12:26 AM (GMT)
Collinsworth and a few others have insinuated that Young has completely lost the locker room (some seem to think that Fisher lost it for him). I've only casually follwed the situation, but that seems to be the only valid explanation-I mean, if you invested a high pick and the corresponding money, there is no reason not to give him a second look, right? I'm guessing he gets traded to a QB starved team before he gets a second serious chance, and that includes these coming weeks.
ChampsX5 - October 20, 2009 12:32 AM (GMT)
Watching Young when he was at Texas, I couldn't see anything that I thought would make him a successful NFL QB until the NC game against USC.
As big as that game was and given the situation, the kid showed me that he wasn't intimidated by the spotlight or the battle in front of him. He was calm and that was passed on to his teammates.
With that assessment, I never expected what has happened to him in Tennessee. Not sure why, but he doesn't look like the same person. Maybe he'll snap out of it, whether he produces on the field or not, but I agree that he needs to go to another team or get a different coaching staff. I don't see him overcoming Fisher's and his own doubts.
CHAZBUKOWSKI - October 20, 2009 10:12 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Bucky7 @ Oct 20 2009, 07:36 AM) |
| QUOTE (MyNameIs_Mud @ Oct 19 2009, 08:19 PM) | | QUOTE (Harrison Bergeron @ Oct 19 2009, 08:39 AM) | Vince Young was 18-11 as a starter. That isn't "sucking", not by a long stretch. Other than his emotional stability, there's no real reason he shouldn't be a starter right now. Comparing him to Jamarcus Russell is just crazy, they're not even close. I wouldn't read too much into how he played, after riding the bench for over a year, coming late into a game in the snow that you're already losing by over fifty points.
Depending on his mental state, Young can still become a good QB in the NFL, and quite frankly Fisher's obsession with starting Collins over him is absurd, for a team with that much talent to be that bad points to coaching as a big part of the problem. Yes, like most young QBs he has a lot to work on, but he also has a lot to work with, and it is WAAAYYYY too soon to give up on him. |
In his 29 games, Young has ...
22 TD passes/32 INT
been sacked 53 times
has thrown for less than 5000 yards total
Has a 67.8 QB rating
Kerry Collins obviously is done in Tennessee, but it's not like Young was even an average starting QB when given the opportunity, and he seems to have regressed over the past few years.
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In his 4 games, Stafford has ...
3 TD passes/6 INT
been sacked 10 times
has thrown for less than 1000 yards total
Has a 65.5 QB rating
Guess the Lions should go ahead and abandon ship too eh?
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Seems to be a pretty obvious difference between 4 games and 29.
Couchpotato - October 20, 2009 02:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
Vince Young was 18-11 as a starter. That isn't "sucking", not by a long stretch. Other than his emotional stability, there's no real reason he shouldn't be a starter right now. Comparing him to Jamarcus Russell is just crazy, they're not even close. I wouldn't read too much into how he played, after riding the bench for over a year, coming late into a game in the snow that you're already losing by over fifty points.
Depending on his mental state, Young can still become a good QB in the NFL, and quite frankly Fisher's obsession with starting Collins over him is absurd, for a team with that much talent to be that bad points to coaching as a big part of the problem. Yes, like most young QBs he has a lot to work on, but he also has a lot to work with, and it is WAAAYYYY too soon to give up on him. |
Tenn was winning because of the running game and defense. If a QB has a 50% completion rating and more int's than td's and the team is still winning, it's not because of the QB but inspite of him.
CHAZBUKOWSKI - October 20, 2009 03:38 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Couchpotato @ Oct 20 2009, 11:13 PM) |
| QUOTE | Vince Young was 18-11 as a starter. That isn't "sucking", not by a long stretch. Other than his emotional stability, there's no real reason he shouldn't be a starter right now. Comparing him to Jamarcus Russell is just crazy, they're not even close. I wouldn't read too much into how he played, after riding the bench for over a year, coming late into a game in the snow that you're already losing by over fifty points.
Depending on his mental state, Young can still become a good QB in the NFL, and quite frankly Fisher's obsession with starting Collins over him is absurd, for a team with that much talent to be that bad points to coaching as a big part of the problem. Yes, like most young QBs he has a lot to work on, but he also has a lot to work with, and it is WAAAYYYY too soon to give up on him. |
Tenn was winning because of the running game and defense. If a QB has a 50% completion rating and more int's than td's and the team is still winning, it's not because of the QB but inspite of him.
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And it is not just his completion percentage. His yards per attempt is mediocre. Basically, he is not very accurate, even though he is not throwing downfield.