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Prowling - September 11, 2009 05:49 PM (GMT)
I haven't read it...

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But I hear it's popular in certain circles.


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Frank Pentangelli - September 14, 2009 06:21 PM (GMT)
Glad you posted this, because over a weekend I received one of those annoying passalong e-mails which included that exact photo and the following text:

This will open your eyes..

What does Obama read?



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The name of the book Obama is reading is called

The Post-American World,

written by a fellow muslim.



Post-America - The world After America???



Please forward this picture to everyone you know, conservative or liberal to expose Obama's radical ideas and intent for this country!


photo verified by snopes

I sent a lengthy e-mail back to the folks on the distribution telling them how stupid this is.


Prowling - September 14, 2009 11:07 PM (GMT)
How stupid what is? As the saying goes, a picture is worth 1,000 words. Regardless of what Snopes (or anyone else) says.

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Frank Pentangelli - September 15, 2009 02:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Prowling @ Sep 14 2009, 11:07 PM)
How stupid what is? As the saying goes, a picture is worth 1,000 words. Regardless of what Snopes (or anyone else) says.

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How stupid it is to suggest that reading a book that makes the same essential point as that of Friedman's "The World is Flat" is somehow proof that Obama is plotting the imminent demise of America.

sadus - September 15, 2009 03:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Prowling @ Sep 11 2009, 12:49 PM)
I haven't read it...


obviously.

did you even read an excerpt or review? the book jacket? and why would you? the title, name of the author, and man holding the book are all you need to know, right? :<_<:

Prowling - September 15, 2009 04:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sadus @ Sep 15 2009, 03:06 PM)
QUOTE (Prowling @ Sep 11 2009, 12:49 PM)
I haven't read it...


obviously.

did you even read an excerpt or review? the book jacket? and why would you? the title, name of the author, and man holding the book are all you need to know, right? :<_<:

How Prezzy views America...

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How Prezzy views islum...

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Prowling - September 15, 2009 04:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Frank Pentangelli @ Sep 15 2009, 02:45 PM)
QUOTE (Prowling @ Sep 14 2009, 11:07 PM)
How stupid what is? As the saying goes, a picture is worth 1,000 words. Regardless of what Snopes (or anyone else) says.

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How stupid it is to suggest that reading a book that makes the same essential point as that of Friedman's "The World is Flat" is somehow proof that Obama is plotting the imminent demise of America.

I can imagine Ronald Reagan's reaction if someone had even suggested he read a book titled "The Post-American World."

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Space Monkey - September 15, 2009 04:58 PM (GMT)
The closet muslim was intrigued by the title and was looking for ideas

Prowling - September 15, 2009 05:41 PM (GMT)

sadus - September 15, 2009 09:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Space Monkey @ Sep 15 2009, 11:58 AM)
The closet muslim was intrigued by the title and was looking for ideas

are you REALLY this ignorant, or is it just your PD schtik?

thelogo - September 16, 2009 01:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (sadus @ Sep 15 2009, 01:57 PM)
are you REALLY this ignorant, or is it just your PD schtik?

are you really that ignorant sadus?

no problem with reading the book

do you think its right for a photop??? he is the prez, could it have been in a bag so as not to be seen?


Chin - September 16, 2009 01:19 AM (GMT)
Another example of poor choices and incompetence by this administration.

sadus - September 16, 2009 01:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (thelogo @ Sep 15 2009, 08:03 PM)
are you really that ignorant sadus?

no problem with reading the book

do you think its right for a photop??? he is the prez, could it have been in a bag so as not to be seen?

from the book....

"This is not a book about the decline of America, but rather about the rise of everyone else."

wasn't that the goal for bush too? to spread democracy and prosperity?

Washington -- President Bush identified economic development and the spread of human freedom as the two key areas of common effort between the United States and India as he wrapped up his two-day trip to India March 3.

“[T]he United States of America and the Republic of India are working together to achieve two great purposes, to expand the circle of prosperity and development across the world, and to defeat our common enemies by advancing the just and noble cause of human freedom,” Bush told the Indian people during a nationally televised speech in New Delhi.

The president said the United States welcomes India’s growing economic strength, recognizing that as other nations prosper, it creates more opportunities for everyone.


Read more: http://www.america.gov/st/washfile-english...l#ixzz0REGiWwSb

goddamn america hating muslim communist. :logik:

sadus - September 16, 2009 02:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Frank Pentangelli @ Sep 15 2009, 09:45 AM)
How stupid it is to suggest that reading a book that makes the same essential point as that of Friedman's "The World is Flat" is somehow proof that Obama is plotting the imminent demise of America.

very stupid.

Harrison Bergeron - September 16, 2009 07:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Chin @ Sep 15 2009, 06:19 PM)
Another example of poor choices and incompetence by this administration.

:brow:

Frank Pentangelli - September 16, 2009 02:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Prowling @ Sep 15 2009, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE (Frank Pentangelli @ Sep 15 2009, 02:45 PM)
QUOTE (Prowling @ Sep 14 2009, 11:07 PM)
How stupid what is? As the saying goes, a picture is worth 1,000 words. Regardless of what Snopes (or anyone else) says.

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How stupid it is to suggest that reading a book that makes the same essential point as that of Friedman's "The World is Flat" is somehow proof that Obama is plotting the imminent demise of America.

I can imagine Ronald Reagan's reaction if someone had even suggested he read a book titled "The Post-American World."

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Books that serve to challenge America to wake up from it's lethargy would appeal to Reagan or any other intelligent and patriotic American.

Jackasses judge books by their covers without investigating what they are actually about.

Frank Pentangelli - September 16, 2009 02:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Chin @ Sep 16 2009, 01:19 AM)
Another example of poor choices and incompetence by this administration.

What is the poor choice, exactly?

thelogo - September 16, 2009 03:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Frank Pentangelli @ Sep 16 2009, 06:18 AM)
What is the poor choice, exactly?

he should read the book....but no reason for the photo-op


Space Monkey - September 16, 2009 04:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sadus @ Sep 15 2009, 05:57 PM)
are you REALLY this ignorant, or is it just your PD schtik?


:lol:

God you're dense on a variety of levels. Shariah law!!!!!!!!


Prowling - September 16, 2009 05:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Frank Pentangelli @ Sep 16 2009, 02:18 PM)
What is the poor choice, exactly?

FP, who did you vote for?

Just curious...

Frank Pentangelli - September 16, 2009 08:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Prowling @ Sep 16 2009, 05:21 PM)
FP, who did you vote for?

Just curious...

I voted for Obama. But again, what is the poor choice by the President?

From Foreign Affairs:

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The United States may indeed be losing ground relative to other countries, argues Fareed Zakaria in this nuanced and highly readable book, but that has less to do with its own absolute decline than with "the rise of the rest." The real story of the age is economic growth across the developing world, which Americans should welcome rather than fear -- not least because of its promise for social and political liberalization abroad. The real challenge for the United States, Zakaria argues, will be getting its own economic and political house in order -- dealing with its many domestic problems so that its strengths in higher education and research and development, along with its demographic vitality and diversity, can sustain U.S. leadership in the global economy in the decades to come.


From Foreign Affairs' "What to Read on American Primacy" list:

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/features/rea...merican-primacy

Are Walter Russell Mead, Krauthammer, Nye, Walt, Cohen and Haas also American haters cheering on American decline?

Why don't you try reading Zakaria rather than looking like a buffoon:

Despite some eerie parallels between the position of the United States today and that of the British Empire a century ago, there are key differences. Britain's decline was driven by bad economics. The United States, in contrast, has the strength and dynamism to continue shaping the world -- but only if it can overcome its political dysfunction and reorient U.S. policy for a world defined by the rise of other powers.

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/633...-american-power

jackass.

Prowling - September 16, 2009 08:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Frank Pentangelli @ Sep 16 2009, 08:02 PM)
QUOTE (Prowling @ Sep 16 2009, 05:21 PM)
FP, who did you vote for?

Just curious...

I voted for Obama.


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"I'm getting a whiff of tool..."

Frank Pentangelli - September 16, 2009 09:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Prowling @ Sep 16 2009, 08:40 PM)
QUOTE (Frank Pentangelli @ Sep 16 2009, 08:02 PM)
QUOTE (Prowling @ Sep 16 2009, 05:21 PM)
FP, who did you vote for?

Just curious...

I voted for Obama.


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"I'm getting a whiff of tool..."

Look, if ignorant redneckis your thing, have at it. But if you're not afraid of rational thought and learning something you didn't already know, read the Zakaria artricle.

Why do you fear him?

Chin - September 16, 2009 09:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Frank Pentangelli @ Sep 16 2009, 09:18 AM)
What is the poor choice, exactly?

Logo answered your question.

Thanks, logo.

Harrison Bergeron - September 16, 2009 09:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Chin @ Sep 16 2009, 02:07 PM)
Logo answered your question.

Thanks, logo.

No, not really. A number of people have stated that being seen in public with that book. Not one person has even attempted to explain why.

Space Monkey - September 16, 2009 09:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (thelogo @ Sep 15 2009, 09:03 PM)
are you really that ignorant sadus?

no problem with reading the book

do you think its right for a photop??? he is the prez, could it have been in a bag so as not to be seen?


He should have hidden the book in the same bag where he keeps his koran and prayer mat.

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Harrison Bergeron - September 16, 2009 09:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Harrison Bergeron @ Sep 16 2009, 02:26 PM)
QUOTE (Chin @ Sep 16 2009, 02:07 PM)
Logo answered your question.

Thanks, logo.

No, not really. A number of people have stated that being seen in public with that book. Not one person has even attempted to explain why.

Actually, that's not true. Prowling actually HAS attempted explaining his position, although his "explanation" seems to basically be that Obama hates and wants to destroy America, and is reading an America-hating book that will help him learn how to destroy America, or maybe he just revels in anything that bashes America.

It's a nonsensical stream of blather from an ignorant anti-mind, but it's at least some sort of explanation.

Chin - September 16, 2009 09:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Harrison Bergeron @ Sep 16 2009, 04:26 PM)
QUOTE (Chin @ Sep 16 2009, 02:07 PM)
Logo answered your question.

Thanks, logo.

No, not really. A number of people have stated that being seen in public with that book. Not one person has even attempted to explain why.

My only point is, for a group that was touted as hyper image savvy, there have certainly been more than a few poor photo ops and sound bites, that can be used by the opposition to fuel negative thoughts of the President. Whether they are founded or not in immaterial. I simply expected a more "high glossy" feel from this admins PR staff. And that hasn't happened.

Harrison Bergeron - September 16, 2009 09:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Chin @ Sep 16 2009, 02:35 PM)
My only point is, for a group that was touted as hyper image savvy, there have certainly been more than a few poor photo ops and sound bites, that can be used by the opposition to fuel negative thoughts of the President. Whether they are founded or not in immaterial. I simply expected a more "high glossy" feel from this admins PR staff. And that hasn't happened.

I don't know why any "image-savvy" person would worry about getting a negative reaction to being seen with that book, except of course from dingbats like Prowling, who will react negatively to whatever he does anyways.


Chin - September 16, 2009 09:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Harrison Bergeron @ Sep 16 2009, 04:47 PM)
I don't know why any "image-savvy" person would worry about getting a negative reaction to being seen with that book, except of course from dingbats like Prowling, who will react negatively to whatever he does anyways.

You cannot apply your own level of critical thinking the average voter.

Harrison Bergeron - September 16, 2009 10:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Chin @ Sep 16 2009, 02:57 PM)
You cannot apply your own level of critical thinking the average voter.

That's as may be, but is there really ANY book he could be seen with that wouldn't stir some sort of controversy, then?

Chin - September 16, 2009 10:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Harrison Bergeron @ Sep 16 2009, 05:03 PM)
That's as may be, but is there really ANY book he could be seen with that wouldn't stir some sort of controversy, then?

Which is why you don't walk around with books, newspapers, magazines in public when you are the POTUS. Because anyone can spin anything.

You also make sure you respect the flag during the national anthem.

Harrison Bergeron - September 16, 2009 10:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Chin @ Sep 16 2009, 03:04 PM)
Which is why you don't walk around with books, newspapers, magazines in public when you are the POTUS. Because anyone can spin anything.

You also make sure you respect the flag during the national anthem.

Might not image-savvy people be calculating things differently if the image they're trying to portray is "change"?

Chin - September 16, 2009 11:04 PM (GMT)
Perhaps. But the far left is not very pleased with MR. Obama. Nor is the right. Were I he, I would be trying to appear as centrist as possible right about now.

Frank Pentangelli - September 17, 2009 04:13 PM (GMT)
So the image-savvy Bush Administration pimped the TR book he read, the Sharansky book, etc. That wasn't a mistake. But Obama carrying around a fairly mainstream book by a mainstream author who is seen regularly on This Week, on his CNN program and other shows, and who has a weekly column in Time, is? Really? Is that what our country has come to? Is that all we can expect? "Don't judge a book by its cover" is a refrain commonly uttered in this country by folks of all intellects and political affiliations. But it's abandoned in the most literal sense here?

This is akin to seeing Bush with a book about the Third Reich and suggesting he might intend extermination of the Jews. It's that stupid.

I have no problem with him reading this book. Carrying the book. Talking about the book. I also have no problem with him not being media savvy enough to "know better" than to worry what know nothings and think nothings like Prowling are passing around in their seamy underworld of passalong e-mails.

sadus - September 18, 2009 04:16 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Harrison Bergeron @ Sep 16 2009, 04:29 PM)
It's a nonsensical stream of blather from an ignorant anti-mind, but it's at least some sort of explanation.

:lol:

anti-mind. never heard that one before. perfect.

sadus - September 18, 2009 04:17 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Frank Pentangelli @ Sep 17 2009, 11:13 AM)
So the image-savvy Bush Administration pimped the TR book he read, the Sharansky book, etc. That wasn't a mistake. But Obama carrying around a fairly mainstream book by a mainstream author who is seen regularly on This Week, on his CNN program and other shows, and who has a weekly column in Time, is? Really? Is that what our country has come to? Is that all we can expect? "Don't judge a book by its cover" is a refrain commonly uttered in this country by folks of all intellects and political affiliations. But it's abandoned in the most literal sense here?

This is akin to seeing Bush with a book about the Third Reich and suggesting he might intend extermination of the Jews. It's that stupid.

I have no problem with him reading this book. Carrying the book. Talking about the book. I also have no problem with him not being media savvy enough to "know better" than to worry what know nothings and think nothings like Prowling are passing around in their seamy underworld of passalong e-mails.

nicely done.

Harrison Bergeron - September 18, 2009 06:09 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (sadus @ Sep 17 2009, 09:16 PM)
:lol:

anti-mind. never heard that one before. perfect.

Ah, you shouldn't like that term. It's from an Ayn Rand book.

Prowling - September 18, 2009 02:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Frank Pentangelli @ Sep 17 2009, 04:13 PM)
So the image-savvy Bush Administration pimped the TR book he read, the Sharansky book, etc.  That wasn't a mistake.  But Obama carrying around a fairly mainstream book by a mainstream author who is seen regularly on This Week, on his CNN program and other shows, and who has a weekly column in Time, is?  Really?  Is that what our country has come to?  Is that all we can expect?  "Don't judge a book by its cover" is a refrain commonly uttered in this country by folks of all intellects and political affiliations.  But it's abandoned in the most literal sense here?

This is akin to seeing Bush with a book about the Third Reich and suggesting he might intend extermination of the Jews.  It's that stupid.

I have no problem with him reading this book.  Carrying the book.  Talking about the book.  I also have no problem with him not being media savvy enough to "know better" than to worry what know nothings and think nothings like Prowling are passing around in their seamy underworld of passalong e-mails.

Mainstream? He is a far-Left, Palin bashing elitist, who can't wait for the Super Power to fall.

I don't know that Obama can do much more to dis America than he already has. It doesn't actually matter what he does to you libiots, because he'll always be your Magic Negro.

Speaking of the brilliant minds at CNN...

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/18/vide...-jeopardy-clip/

Frank Pentangelli - September 18, 2009 02:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Prowling @ Sep 18 2009, 02:00 PM)
Mainstream? He is a far-Left, Palin bashing elitist, who can't wait for the Super Power to fall.

I don't know that Obama can do much more to dis America than he already has. It doesn't actually matter what he does to you libiots, because he'll always be your Magic Negro.

He is? How do you know? You admitted you haven't read the book. You obviously didn't read the Foreign Affairs link I posted.

He has written a book that takes a similar tack as one written by Charles Krauthammer. Oh, and is Pat Buchanan an America hater? He has presaged the decline of America due to the influx of foreigners.

I must be doing something right. You think I'm a "libiot" and the left wingers think I'm a "far right lunatic."

Sweet.




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