Title: Hamas Hosts Mass Wedding
MyNameIs_Mud - July 31, 2009 08:58 PM (GMT)
Clarence Boddicker - August 1, 2009 03:11 AM (GMT)
It's like Hamas is a reverse Michael Jackson.
The Iron Sheik - August 1, 2009 03:41 AM (GMT)
Clarence Boddicker - August 1, 2009 03:49 AM (GMT)
It's perfectly normal for fully grown adult males to be marrying girls no older than 10 years old, apparently.
The Iron Sheik - August 1, 2009 03:59 AM (GMT)
The 450 brides shared none of the glamour, taking seats among the audience of around 1,000 party guests: most couples had already taken part in religious ceremonies elsewhere, with more marriages planned for the next few days.
No 10 year old girls were brides. You assume it occurred on the evidence provided by Carl the ultra orthodox Jew . . .
oak like stupidity.
OakBan - August 1, 2009 12:28 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (The Iron Sheik @ Jul 31 2009, 07:59 PM) |
The 450 brides shared none of the glamour, taking seats among the audience of around 1,000 party guests: most couples had already taken part in religious ceremonies elsewhere, with more marriages planned for the next few days.
No 10 year old girls were brides. You assume it occurred on the evidence provided by Carl the ultra orthodox Jew . . .
oak like stupidity. |
wait, what?
since it was presented by a Jew it can't be true, right?

indeed. :<_<:
you are out of your freaking mind dude.
sadus - August 1, 2009 04:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Clarence Boddicker @ Jul 31 2009, 10:49 PM) |
| It's perfectly normal for fully grown adult males to be marrying girls no older than 10 years old, apparently. |
damn animals, it's like they're living in the stone age!
....or in the US circa late 1800's when the age of consent in delaware was an appalling 7, and 10-12 in most other states.
OakBan - August 1, 2009 04:14 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 1 2009, 08:08 AM) |
damn animals, it's like they're living in the stone age!
....or in the US circa late 1800's when the age of consent in delaware was an appalling 7, and 10-12 in most other states. |
comparing what happened in the 1800's to modern day.
another solid comparison :<_<:
sadus - August 1, 2009 04:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (OakBan @ Aug 1 2009, 11:14 AM) |
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 1 2009, 08:08 AM) | damn animals, it's like they're living in the stone age!
....or in the US circa late 1800's when the age of consent in delaware was an appalling 7, and 10-12 in most other states. |
comparing what happened in the 1800's to modern day.
another solid comparison :<_<:
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yeah, the 1880's, we were practically living in caves back then!
OakBan - August 1, 2009 04:53 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 1 2009, 08:31 AM) |
| QUOTE (OakBan @ Aug 1 2009, 11:14 AM) | | QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 1 2009, 08:08 AM) | damn animals, it's like they're living in the stone age!
....or in the US circa late 1800's when the age of consent in delaware was an appalling 7, and 10-12 in most other states. |
comparing what happened in the 1800's to modern day.
another solid comparison :<_<:
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yeah, the 1880's, we were practically living in caves back then!
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so nothing has changed since then?
sadus - August 1, 2009 05:21 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (OakBan @ Aug 1 2009, 11:53 AM) |
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 1 2009, 08:31 AM) | | QUOTE (OakBan @ Aug 1 2009, 11:14 AM) | | QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 1 2009, 08:08 AM) | damn animals, it's like they're living in the stone age!
....or in the US circa late 1800's when the age of consent in delaware was an appalling 7, and 10-12 in most other states. |
comparing what happened in the 1800's to modern day.
another solid comparison :<_<:
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yeah, the 1880's, we were practically living in caves back then!
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so nothing has changed since then?
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obviously they have for us. but 130 years ago isn't THAT long ago. it isn't such a long time ago for our country that we should fairly look on it as something completely monstrous and alien.
and who is to say they are customarily having sex with them at "10", or however old they are? marriages are made for all kinds of reasons. marrying and reproducing with a virgin is so desirable for some people and cultures that it's worth it to marry now and consummate it several years later.
ManBearPig - August 1, 2009 06:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 1 2009, 05:21 PM) |
| and who is to say they are customarily having sex with them at "10", or however old they are? marriages are made for all kinds of reasons. marrying and reproducing with a virgin is so desirable for some people and cultures that it's worth it to marry now and consummate it several years later. |
Except the fact that the age of consent is 9 or 10 in Iran as long as they are marriage. So you are completely naive if you think all these pedos are waiting years to have sex with them.
| QUOTE |
| No 10 year old girls were brides. You assume it occurred on the evidence provided by Carl the ultra orthodox Jew . . . |
You are such a fucking idiot. No evidence? You mean besides the photo and video of children wearing wedding dresses and getting married? And you can assumed it occurred because Iranian law allows this shit to happen. I really can't say it enough times how big of an idiot you are.
patriotsblade - August 1, 2009 06:55 PM (GMT)
OakBan - August 1, 2009 07:13 PM (GMT)
disgusting.
wtf is wrong with people? they are kids!
sadus - August 1, 2009 08:36 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ManBearPig @ Aug 1 2009, 01:24 PM) |
Except the fact that the age of consent is 9 or 10 in Iran as long as they are marriage. So you are completely naive if you think all these pedos are waiting years to have sex with them. |
true, but without parental or court consent, the minimum age for girls in iran to marry is 13. and i never said ALL waited years to have sex with them. i just questioned whether it was customary to do it with them at 10 years old.
| QUOTE |
| You are such a fucking idiot. No evidence? You mean besides the photo and video of children wearing wedding dresses and getting married? And you can assumed it occurred because Iranian law allows this shit to happen. I really can't say it enough times how big of an idiot you are. |
take this up with sheik, i'm not disputing that these marriages really happened. seems pretty clear that they actually occurred.
ManBearPig - August 2, 2009 04:12 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 1 2009, 08:36 PM) |
| true, but without parental or court consent, the minimum age for girls in iran to marry is 13. and i never said ALL waited years to have sex with them. i just questioned whether it was customary to do it with them at 10 years old. |
Even if they all waited until an appropriate age, marrying someone who hasn't finished puberty is fucked up. Customary or not.
| QUOTE |
| take this up with sheik, i'm not disputing that these marriages really happened. seems pretty clear that they actually occurred. |
Comments weren't intended for you.
sadus - August 2, 2009 01:07 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ManBearPig @ Aug 1 2009, 11:12 PM) |
Even if they all waited until an appropriate age, marrying someone who hasn't finished puberty is fucked up. Customary or not.
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it's not how i'd go about it. but if the goal is to have a child and ensure reproductive purity, what's the big deal? is it really that heinous?
thelogo - August 2, 2009 01:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 2 2009, 05:07 AM) |
| QUOTE (ManBearPig @ Aug 1 2009, 11:12 PM) | Even if they all waited until an appropriate age, marrying someone who hasn't finished puberty is fucked up. Customary or not.
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it's not how i'd go about it. but if the goal is to have a child and ensure reproductive purity, what's the big deal? is it really that heinous?
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yes
disinterested_observer - August 2, 2009 03:20 PM (GMT)
Several points:
1. The first link provided by the OP links to she story about Biden making the statement "We have to spend money to keep from going bankrupt."
2. The video link goes to a website that has an embedded link that links to this story.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/artic...JytkJenE7spoaDQApparently the author used this as his source. In reality, the article doesn't support the authors claims of the "pre-pubescent brides" but, in fact, indicates different brides.
From the article:
| QUOTE |
Hamas sponsors mass wedding in Gaza (AFP) – 2 days ago
SHEIKH ZAYED CITY, Gaza Strip — Nearly a thousand Palestinians celebrated marriage on Thursday night in a ceremony organised by Hamas in the north of the Gaza Strip.
Hamas dignitaries including Mahmud Zahar, one of the militant group's top leaders, were on hand to congratulate 450 grooms who took part in the carefully stage-managed event.
"We are saying to the world and to America that you cannot deny us joy and happiness," Zahar told the men, all of whom were dressed in identical black suits and hailed from the nearby Jabalia refugee camp.
Each groom received a present of 500 dollars from Hamas, which said its workers had also contributed five percent of their monthly salaries to add to the wedding gift.
The 450 brides shared none of the glamour, taking seats among the audience of around 1,000 party guests: most couples had already taken part in religious ceremonies elsewhere, with more marriages planned for the next few days. |
3. I did a quick google search, and the articles that I found about this particular wedding all have the same meme. The actual brides did not take part in the public celebration.
| QUOTE |
GAZA, July 31 (RIA Novosti) - The Palestinian Hamas movement organized a mass wedding of 450 couples and engagement ceremony for another 100 couples in Gaza City's main square on Friday as thousands looked on.
The event gave poor newlyweds the chance to save money on their wedding and political organizations, which footed the bill, the chance to show publicly they care about the younger generation.
Only the bridegrooms, dressed in strict black suits, were on the decorated stage before the ceremony, while the brides were hidden from the public's view. |
http://en.rian.ru/world/20090731/155691844.htmlOther mass weddings hosted by Hamas have been held to provide widows of Hamas fighters with new husbands. In those ceremonies, the widows dresssed in black, and the little girls dressed in white were either daughters or nieces of the brides or grooms.
Unless the OP can provide an actual lindependent source showing support for the "pre-pubescent brides" claim, it would seem that this particular story does not appear to have a basis in fact. I do not support Hamas in any way, but if you are going to criticize Hamas, at least do it for a legitimate reason.
In fact, if you watch the video, starting at about the 4 minute mark it shows the grooms and the young girls walking in and taking their places on the stage. If you look carefully, you will notice two things.
1. Not every Groom has a "pre-pubescent bride" walking by his side.
2. When the grooms take the stage, at least some of the little girls also go up on the stage, which is in direct contradiction with the article's statement that the actual brides were seated in the audience and did not share the stage with their husbands.
I call bullshit on the claim of "pre-pubescent brides".
Harrison Bergeron - August 2, 2009 04:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ManBearPig @ Aug 1 2009, 09:12 PM) |
Even if they all waited until an appropriate age, marrying someone who hasn't finished puberty is fucked up. Customary or not. |
Huh. I thought you were the "there's no such thing as right and wrong" guy.
I guess that only applies to excusing actions that YOU benefit from somehow?
ManBearPig - August 2, 2009 08:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Harrison Bergeron @ Aug 2 2009, 04:59 PM) |
Huh. I thought you were the "there's no such thing as right and wrong" guy.
I guess that only applies to excusing actions that YOU benefit from somehow? |
Pretty much. Glad we are on the same page. Although I fail to see how I benefit in this case.
That aside, my opinion on the matter doesn't change the existence of morality. How does my hypocrisy prove the existence of morality? It doesn't.
Of course my argument is more based on scientific fact rather than petty morality. Considering how these children are undergoing the early stages of puberty, it can be consider medically harmful for them to engage in sexual acts with an adult.
sadus - August 3, 2009 10:22 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (thelogo @ Aug 2 2009, 08:15 AM) |
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 2 2009, 05:07 AM) | | QUOTE (ManBearPig @ Aug 1 2009, 11:12 PM) | Even if they all waited until an appropriate age, marrying someone who hasn't finished puberty is fucked up. Customary or not.
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it's not how i'd go about it. but if the goal is to have a child and ensure reproductive purity, what's the big deal? is it really that heinous?
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yes
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why? sure it's misogynistic and controlling, but is it necessarily the pedophillic monstrosity it's portrayed as?
sadus - August 3, 2009 10:29 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ManBearPig @ Aug 2 2009, 03:02 PM) |
| Of course my argument is more based on scientific fact rather than petty morality. Considering how these children are undergoing the early stages of puberty, it can be consider medically harmful for them to engage in sexual acts with an adult. |
it definitely depends on the age we're talking about here, as far as that argument goes.
how i view it also depends on the availability of females to reproduce with, and the life expectancy of the population. could conceivably be some other considerations too. politics, wealth, etc.
Kali Maa - August 4, 2009 05:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (disinterested_observer @ Aug 2 2009, 09:20 AM) |
Several points:
1. The first link provided by the OP links to she story about Biden making the statement "We have to spend money to keep from going bankrupt."
2. The video link goes to a website that has an embedded link that links to this story.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/artic...JytkJenE7spoaDQ
Apparently the author used this as his source. In reality, the article doesn't support the authors claims of the "pre-pubescent brides" but, in fact, indicates different brides.
From the article:
| QUOTE | Hamas sponsors mass wedding in Gaza (AFP) – 2 days ago
SHEIKH ZAYED CITY, Gaza Strip — Nearly a thousand Palestinians celebrated marriage on Thursday night in a ceremony organised by Hamas in the north of the Gaza Strip.
Hamas dignitaries including Mahmud Zahar, one of the militant group's top leaders, were on hand to congratulate 450 grooms who took part in the carefully stage-managed event.
"We are saying to the world and to America that you cannot deny us joy and happiness," Zahar told the men, all of whom were dressed in identical black suits and hailed from the nearby Jabalia refugee camp.
Each groom received a present of 500 dollars from Hamas, which said its workers had also contributed five percent of their monthly salaries to add to the wedding gift.
The 450 brides shared none of the glamour, taking seats among the audience of around 1,000 party guests: most couples had already taken part in religious ceremonies elsewhere, with more marriages planned for the next few days. |
3. I did a quick google search, and the articles that I found about this particular wedding all have the same meme. The actual brides did not take part in the public celebration.
| QUOTE | GAZA, July 31 (RIA Novosti) - The Palestinian Hamas movement organized a mass wedding of 450 couples and engagement ceremony for another 100 couples in Gaza City's main square on Friday as thousands looked on.
The event gave poor newlyweds the chance to save money on their wedding and political organizations, which footed the bill, the chance to show publicly they care about the younger generation.
Only the bridegrooms, dressed in strict black suits, were on the decorated stage before the ceremony, while the brides were hidden from the public's view. |
http://en.rian.ru/world/20090731/155691844.htmlOther mass weddings hosted by Hamas have been held to provide widows of Hamas fighters with new husbands. In those ceremonies, the widows dresssed in black, and the little girls dressed in white were either daughters or nieces of the brides or grooms. Unless the OP can provide an actual lindependent source showing support for the "pre-pubescent brides" claim, it would seem that this particular story does not appear to have a basis in fact. I do not support Hamas in any way, but if you are going to criticize Hamas, at least do it for a legitimate reason. In fact, if you watch the video, starting at about the 4 minute mark it shows the grooms and the young girls walking in and taking their places on the stage. If you look carefully, you will notice two things. 1. Not every Groom has a "pre-pubescent bride" walking by his side. 2. When the grooms take the stage, at least some of the little girls also go up on the stage, which is in direct contradiction with the article's statement that the actual brides were seated in the audience and did not share the stage with their husbands. I call bullshit on the claim of "pre-pubescent brides". |
Nice find... and thanks for clearing it up. :)
I was quick to be emotional about this one and believed the picture alone.
This also confirms for me that you're Creep.
No worries though... your secret is safe with me. ;)
Kali Maa - August 4, 2009 05:11 PM (GMT)
First of all, last night's mass wedding was done by Islamic Jihad, not Hamas.
More importantly, the girls are not the brides. Islamic Jihad hired kindergarten children - both boys and girls - to dance and help celebrate the occasion, and these girls were part of that. The men would not hold hands with their brides.You can try to puzzle out the autotranslation at:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...late.google.com...but clearly the girls in that picture are dressed as brides but they are only play-acting.
Let's make sure that our accusations about these reprehensible groups are accurate before we make them, or else it can boomerang on us and make us all look bad. We know there are lots of child marriages in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states but I haven't heard about many in the Arab nations surrounding Israel, and it is unlikely that there would be a mass wedding with so many child brides or else there would be a tumult from the more liberal Arabs.
sadus - August 4, 2009 05:12 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kali Maa @ Aug 4 2009, 12:02 PM) |
Nice find... and thanks for clearing it up. :)
I was quick to be emotional about this one and believed the picture alone.
This also confirms for me that you're Creep. No worries though... your secret is safe with me. ;) |
that doesn't mean the practice doesn't happen, which should really the issue here imo. whether this particular hamas event occured or not is immaterial unless you're just looking for hamas related ammo. the laws and practices are what they are in many of these countries.
Kali Maa - August 4, 2009 05:16 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 4 2009, 11:12 AM) |
| that doesn't mean the practice doesn't happen, which should really the issue here imo. whether this particular hamas event occured or not is immaterial unless you're just looking for hamas related ammo. the laws and practices are what they are in many of these countries. |
I don't care what the issue should be in your opinion. I was upset specifically by the assumptions taken from the picture on the first post... which looks more like a 4 year old girl, than a ten year old... which is even more disturbing.
We can't stop the whole world from doing fucked up things... in case you hadn't noticed, that's what got us into this mess in the first place.
We need to clean up our own back yard. Ignoring our own filth by becoming the police of other countries, is pathetic.
Prowling - August 4, 2009 08:56 PM (GMT)
I thought it meant hamas was hosting a wedding in Massachusetts. Which would have been equally unsurprising.
disinterested_observer - August 4, 2009 09:04 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 4 2009, 12:12 PM) |
| QUOTE (Kali Maa @ Aug 4 2009, 12:02 PM) | Nice find... and thanks for clearing it up. :)
I was quick to be emotional about this one and believed the picture alone.
This also confirms for me that you're Creep. No worries though... your secret is safe with me. ;) |
that doesn't mean the practice doesn't happen, which should really the issue here imo. whether this particular hamas event occured or not is immaterial unless you're just looking for hamas related ammo. the laws and practices are what they are in many of these countries.
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I don't know, for sure, if it happens in the Palestinian culture or not. However, the bulk of the articles that I read about the weddings, both this one and others, all indicated that the actual brides do not take the stage with their husbands. They are either seated in the audience or in a separate place, entirely.
Again, I do not agree with Hamas, or any other terrorist organization, but to falsely attribute something to them is wrong, any way you slice it.
The Iron Sheik - August 4, 2009 09:47 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ManBearPig @ Aug 1 2009, 11:24 AM) |
Except the fact that the age of consent is 9 or 10 in Iran as long as they are marriage. So you are completely naive if you think all these pedos are waiting years to have sex with them.
You are such a fucking idiot. No evidence? You mean besides the photo and video of children wearing wedding dresses and getting married? And you can assumed it occurred because Iranian law allows this shit to happen. I really can't say it enough times how big of an idiot you are. |
Did you finish the thread punchy? Pictures are all you need to support your narrow minded bigotry.
You lose. Again.
Dumbfuck.
sadus - August 4, 2009 10:16 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (disinterested_observer @ Aug 4 2009, 04:04 PM) |
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 4 2009, 12:12 PM) | that doesn't mean the practice doesn't happen, which should really the issue here imo. whether this particular hamas event occured or not is immaterial unless you're just looking for hamas related ammo. the laws and practices are what they are in many of these countries. |
Again, I do not agree with Hamas, or any other terrorist organization, but to falsely attribute something to them is wrong, any way you slice it.
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agreed, and after re-reading everything i agree with you about this particular incident.
| QUOTE |
| I don't know, for sure, if it happens in the Palestinian culture or not. However, the bulk of the articles that I read about the weddings, both this one and others, all indicated that the actual brides do not take the stage with their husbands. They are either seated in the audience or in a separate place, entirely. |
i understand what you're saying, and as i said i agree. but i was more interested in the practice of marrying someone of that age in general, the whole idea of it, and people's reactions to it. regardless of who, where, or when. not just palestinians, and not just mass weddings like this.
sadus - August 4, 2009 10:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kali Maa @ Aug 4 2009, 12:16 PM) |
I don't care what the issue should be in your opinion. I was upset specifically by the assumptions taken from the picture on the first post... which looks more like a 4 year old girl, than a ten year old... which is even more disturbing.
We can't stop the whole world from doing fucked up things... in case you hadn't noticed, that's what got us into this mess in the first place.
We need to clean up our own back yard. Ignoring our own filth by becoming the police of other countries, is pathetic. |
:whistle:
RTFT
thelogo - August 5, 2009 10:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 3 2009, 02:22 PM) |
| QUOTE (thelogo @ Aug 2 2009, 08:15 AM) | | QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 2 2009, 05:07 AM) | | QUOTE (ManBearPig @ Aug 1 2009, 11:12 PM) | Even if they all waited until an appropriate age, marrying someone who hasn't finished puberty is fucked up. Customary or not.
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it's not how i'd go about it. but if the goal is to have a child and ensure reproductive purity, what's the big deal? is it really that heinous?
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yes
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why? sure it's misogynistic and controlling, but is it necessarily the pedophillic monstrosity it's portrayed as?
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for some maybe so , for some maybe not, but it sure doenst 'feel' right
sadus - August 6, 2009 01:10 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (thelogo @ Aug 5 2009, 05:02 PM) |
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 3 2009, 02:22 PM) | | QUOTE (thelogo @ Aug 2 2009, 08:15 AM) | | QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 2 2009, 05:07 AM) | | QUOTE (ManBearPig @ Aug 1 2009, 11:12 PM) | Even if they all waited until an appropriate age, marrying someone who hasn't finished puberty is fucked up. Customary or not.
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it's not how i'd go about it. but if the goal is to have a child and ensure reproductive purity, what's the big deal? is it really that heinous?
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yes
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why? sure it's misogynistic and controlling, but is it necessarily the pedophillic monstrosity it's portrayed as?
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for some maybe so , for some maybe not, but it sure doenst 'feel' right
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so don't do it.
Kali Maa - August 6, 2009 04:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sadus @ Aug 4 2009, 04:18 PM) |
:whistle:
RTFT |
I read the thread, jackass.
The Iron Sheik - August 8, 2009 01:23 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (The Iron Sheik @ Aug 4 2009, 02:47 PM) |
| QUOTE (ManBearPig @ Aug 1 2009, 11:24 AM) | Except the fact that the age of consent is 9 or 10 in Iran as long as they are marriage. So you are completely naive if you think all these pedos are waiting years to have sex with them.
You are such a fucking idiot. No evidence? You mean besides the photo and video of children wearing wedding dresses and getting married? And you can assumed it occurred because Iranian law allows this shit to happen. I really can't say it enough times how big of an idiot you are. |
Did you finish the thread punchy? Pictures are all you need to support your narrow minded bigotry.
You lose. Again.
Dumbfuck.
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:bump:
ManBearPig - August 8, 2009 07:20 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (The Iron Sheik @ Aug 8 2009, 01:23 AM) |
| QUOTE (The Iron Sheik @ Aug 4 2009, 02:47 PM) | | QUOTE (ManBearPig @ Aug 1 2009, 11:24 AM) | Except the fact that the age of consent is 9 or 10 in Iran as long as they are marriage. So you are completely naive if you think all these pedos are waiting years to have sex with them.
You are such a fucking idiot. No evidence? You mean besides the photo and video of children wearing wedding dresses and getting married? And you can assumed it occurred because Iranian law allows this shit to happen. I really can't say it enough times how big of an idiot you are. |
Did you finish the thread punchy? Pictures are all you need to support your narrow minded bigotry.
You lose. Again.
Dumbfuck.
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:bump:
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Ok so I was wrong, big shit. Hell I'll smash my own post too. Like a dope I associated Hamas with the Iranians, who do molest children. MY MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you weren't a complete idiot you could have picked up on that mistake too!!
To be fair you have to be married to fuck a kid so that makes it all right.
Kali Maa - August 8, 2009 10:36 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ManBearPig @ Aug 8 2009, 01:20 PM) |
Ok so I was wrong, big shit. Hell I'll smash my own post too. Like a dope I associated Hamas with the Iranians, who do molest children. MY MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you weren't a complete idiot you could have picked up on that mistake too!!
To be fair you have to be married to fuck a kid so that makes it all right. |
Awww... don't cry, Helen... Sheik was just having fun laughing at the emotional stupidity that is you. :D
JohnDough - August 10, 2009 04:28 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (disinterested_observer @ Aug 2 2009, 08:20 AM) |
Several points:
1. The first link provided by the OP links to she story about Biden making the statement "We have to spend money to keep from going bankrupt."
2. The video link goes to a website that has an embedded link that links to this story.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/artic...JytkJenE7spoaDQ
Apparently the author used this as his source. In reality, the article doesn't support the authors claims of the "pre-pubescent brides" but, in fact, indicates different brides.
From the article:
| QUOTE | Hamas sponsors mass wedding in Gaza (AFP) – 2 days ago
SHEIKH ZAYED CITY, Gaza Strip — Nearly a thousand Palestinians celebrated marriage on Thursday night in a ceremony organised by Hamas in the north of the Gaza Strip.
Hamas dignitaries including Mahmud Zahar, one of the militant group's top leaders, were on hand to congratulate 450 grooms who took part in the carefully stage-managed event.
"We are saying to the world and to America that you cannot deny us joy and happiness," Zahar told the men, all of whom were dressed in identical black suits and hailed from the nearby Jabalia refugee camp.
Each groom received a present of 500 dollars from Hamas, which said its workers had also contributed five percent of their monthly salaries to add to the wedding gift.
The 450 brides shared none of the glamour, taking seats among the audience of around 1,000 party guests: most couples had already taken part in religious ceremonies elsewhere, with more marriages planned for the next few days. |
3. I did a quick google search, and the articles that I found about this particular wedding all have the same meme. The actual brides did not take part in the public celebration.
| QUOTE | GAZA, July 31 (RIA Novosti) - The Palestinian Hamas movement organized a mass wedding of 450 couples and engagement ceremony for another 100 couples in Gaza City's main square on Friday as thousands looked on.
The event gave poor newlyweds the chance to save money on their wedding and political organizations, which footed the bill, the chance to show publicly they care about the younger generation.
Only the bridegrooms, dressed in strict black suits, were on the decorated stage before the ceremony, while the brides were hidden from the public's view. |
http://en.rian.ru/world/20090731/155691844.htmlOther mass weddings hosted by Hamas have been held to provide widows of Hamas fighters with new husbands. In those ceremonies, the widows dresssed in black, and the little girls dressed in white were either daughters or nieces of the brides or grooms. Unless the OP can provide an actual lindependent source showing support for the "pre-pubescent brides" claim, it would seem that this particular story does not appear to have a basis in fact. I do not support Hamas in any way, but if you are going to criticize Hamas, at least do it for a legitimate reason. In fact, if you watch the video, starting at about the 4 minute mark it shows the grooms and the young girls walking in and taking their places on the stage. If you look carefully, you will notice two things. 1. Not every Groom has a "pre-pubescent bride" walking by his side. 2. When the grooms take the stage, at least some of the little girls also go up on the stage, which is in direct contradiction with the article's statement that the actual brides were seated in the audience and did not share the stage with their husbands. I call bullshit on the claim of "pre-pubescent brides". |
Hi creep.
Space Monkey - August 11, 2009 05:42 PM (GMT)