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no one in particular - February 28, 2008 12:13 AM (GMT)

ghost_of_creep - February 28, 2008 07:45 PM (GMT)
what's retarded about it? do you seriously not know that extremists (Muslim and otherwise) use things like this to communicate covertly?

OakBan - February 28, 2008 07:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ghost_of_creep @ Feb 28 2008, 11:45 AM)
what's retarded about it? do you seriously not know that extremists (Muslim and otherwise) use things like this to communicate covertly?

nope - NOIPY thinks we all should hold hands and sing love songs.


panic_4200 - February 28, 2008 08:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ghost_of_creep @ Feb 28 2008, 02:45 PM)
what's retarded about it? do you seriously not know that extremists (Muslim and otherwise) use things like this to communicate covertly?

LOL, Terrorism in World of Warcraft, LOL, OMG. Hahahahahahahaha

ghost_of_creep - February 28, 2008 08:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (panic_4200 @ Feb 28 2008, 03:37 PM)
LOL, Terrorism in World of Warcraft, LOL, OMG. Hahahahahahahaha

yeah, studying the social patterns of terrorism is a bad idea. oh, wait, no it's not...never mind.

civilde - February 28, 2008 08:45 PM (GMT)
yeah, we can use IRC for free, but lets all join WoW so we can pay to chat about terrorism in a monitored environment!

ghost_of_creep - February 28, 2008 08:46 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (civilde @ Feb 28 2008, 03:45 PM)
yeah, we can use IRC for free, but lets all join WoW so we can pay to chat about terrorism in a monitored environment!

which is easier to monitor, easier to hide in?

civilde - February 28, 2008 08:48 PM (GMT)
uh, irc is easier to hide in

ghost_of_creep - February 28, 2008 08:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (civilde @ Feb 28 2008, 03:48 PM)
uh, irc is easier to hide in

really? I disagree. it's a publicly available forum in a text format. much easier to monitor (by the government), and in turn harder to hide in IMO.

civilde - February 28, 2008 08:54 PM (GMT)
there's no centralization, though. i could go on undernet, efnet, or hell, since this is gaming, quakenet, and make a temp channel. i'm not familiar with the nodes and whether things are logged, but i do know that for any mmorpg, all data sent to the server will be logged. and they have more info to connect users to handles.

ghost_of_creep - February 28, 2008 08:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (civilde @ Feb 28 2008, 03:54 PM)
there's no centralization, though. i could go on undernet, efnet, or hell, since this is gaming, quakenet, and make a temp channel. i'm not familiar with the nodes and whether things are logged, but i do know that for any mmorpg, all data sent to the server will be logged. and they have more info to connect users to handles.

yes, but how willing would the host of that mmorpg be to hand over that data?

civilde - February 28, 2008 09:01 PM (GMT)
lately? fairly to very.

civilde - February 28, 2008 09:05 PM (GMT)
i mean, there are obviously much, much more secure ways than irc, but i cant see people thinking a hosted game server is safe at all. now if it was hosted locally it might be different.

no one in particular - February 28, 2008 09:46 PM (GMT)
I really, really hope that this is just some cutesy disinformation campaign. Otherwise, someone in the US government needs to be slapped hard.

If terrorists are using Second Life and World of Warcraft to hook up, by all means, let them. Not only would they have to create accounts, using valid e-mail addresses, but in the case of WoW, terrorists have to give a credit card number, too. They'd have to connect to proprietary software to specialized servers, making anonymity and untraceability that much harder. Downloading the bulky software needed to run these "massively multiplayer" games would add even more electronic breadcrumbs. Plus, game administrators regularly monitor what players are doing online.

http://armsandinfluence.typepad.com/armsan...errorist-c.html

exactly

ghost_of_creep - February 29, 2008 02:30 AM (GMT)
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Not only would they have to create accounts, using valid e-mail addresses


create the email account on Yahoo, GMail, whatever...register on WOW, then delete the email account (which of course already has no connection to you anyway).

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but in the case of WoW, terrorists have to give a credit card number, too.


and? they haven't shied from using credit cards in the past, have they? *cough*9/11*cough*

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They'd have to connect to proprietary software to specialized servers, making anonymity and untraceability that much harder. Downloading the bulky software needed to run these "massively multiplayer" games would add even more electronic breadcrumbs.


people seem to gravely misunderstand how easy anonymity is in situations like this.

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Plus, game administrators regularly monitor what players are doing online.


so what? they don't say "hey Muhammed, let's blow up the Pentagon today." derrrrr




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