Hey all, I started with orcs and goblins a half year ago. Until today I have only painted goblins (yeah I have :P ) But today when I opened my first box of orcs, I noticed there's only 19 in the box, and it's described on the box that there is indeed only 19 orcs in the box. My question is, what's the damn point in that!? Like the goblins come in boxes of 20, so does the skaven units. I really just can't see the point in this.. :wacko:

-Kurznikk-

i think this is because of the commandsprue...

in the first box there were 16 orcs with some metalparts for the command-models [champion-head and -swordarm, musicianarm and a bannerarm]. but after some time GW decided to make a commandsprue [i think this was originally made for the armybox]. and then they put the commandsprue into the box instead of the metalparts.
so the regular 16 models + the new 3 models from the commandsprue = 19 orcs

yeah i know it's stupid <_<
they could have added another boy on the commandsprue and everything would be fine

there was a topic about this before we got hacked. but its gone now, i think

basically, someone said this, that there were originally only 16 in the box and the command models had to be bought seperatly. Then they added the command models into the box and got the rather annoying number of 19.

Typical GW, refuse to put one more model in the box <_<
Thanks though, at least I got the explanation for it :lol:

-Kurznikk-

Somebody usually say this in these topics, I'll just do it this time.

Be glad they did put in 3 more models, they could have taken out 4 as well, leaving us with 15. Now that would be typical GW.

To solve, add a bigboss, or make some cleaver unit filler. Like having 3 orcs fill up a 50*50 mm base (easy to make from 4 large infantry bases, since I guess GW added one to much).

Yeah I guess it's better they put the 3 models inside the box, instead of buying them separetly. I got alot of orcs from the 6th edition starter box, so isn't much of a problem, was just wondering :)

-Kurznikk-

In case anyone doesn't know - the 40K Ork Boyz Box still only has 16 models, at reduced quality, and no extra three command-type models at all while still costing the same price. Orcs are lucky gitz.


Dakka!!!

Yeah, but don't they come with extra torso's? Or am I thinking about a different box? (don't play 40k myself so...)

And actually the new sprue was designed for the original 6th edition Warhammer box.

And with the command sprue we got a better solution than with goblins, skaven and skelletons. They're metal command parts were simply replaced by a plastic sprue with only the musician and banner parts. It's also just the one sprue for all three regiment boxes. No extras or nothing...

Grtz
-EM-

No extra torsos, just better looking minis :lol:. Not to mention Iron Gobz as well, which are damn cool. I preffer using 40k boyz for my units rather than the fantasy ones; I preffer trowsers and armour plates to skirts and mail.

Arfa da Grate

We have perhaps, but Bretonnian players (including myself) have got a Men-at-arms box set (which contains 16 models, but hey it's from the 6th ed.) which contains 3 sprues with 4 men AND a command sprue with four bodies and heads on it. This enables Bret players to make a complete 16-men unit with command group. Pity GW didn't do that for the Orcs.

Eh? With Orcs you get 3 models for free! 19 models for the price of 16 (when compared to Orks) . How are the men-at-arms better?

They are better for the command sprue in the box. That sprue included a fourth model to make a block of 16 (which in 6th ed. was a nice unit size). I'm only saying that such a command sprue would have been very nice in the Orc boxed set, making a total of 20 Orcs instead of the weird number of 19.

only a torso and legs would have been enough, to make the last boy...
i think there is enough space on that sprue to add those 2 parts <_<

Okay, this has been answered now (again), so I'm going to edit the title a little and pin it so we don't have to answer it again :P

I think we had one of these pinned before April... <_<

Ah well, glad it's pinned now (again?). Saves us having to answer it every month or so.

Perhaps next year you'll redo the Aprils fool prank and let the forum melt into sweet oblivion agian ^_^

Hey were better of than those poor chaos boyz. They get just 12 a box.

To be honest I find it best to buy a box of fantasy orcs and 40k and just mix the pieces. You can't beat those iron gobz for conversions, plus you get a bucket full of green skinz :P

The 40k ork stormboy box comes with extra torsos.

I recently bought the Orc unit box (I hadn't purchased any new orc stuff since the late 90's when I discovered booze & broads, and have played 40K for the last 3 years)
I was confused about it containing only 19 as well, but I had the Games Day model to add to it, so didn't build the command sprue champ as a champ, just a regular boy (not really hard to do)

Thinking about it though - if you want to make a solid Orc army - you have 3 units of 25 boys. so buy 4 unit boxes, and you only have 1 extra. I think that works out very nicely, and with the 4th cmd sprue, you can kit him out very nicely as a BSB


Also, Hello, 1st post.

19. It's a reference from Stephen King's "The Dark Tower".

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Anomic, this is hardly helpful to the old topic you responded to, so you should've just pmed the OP.

Indeed! Since you are relatively new, you should be aware of the Forum Rules. For a definition of threadomancy, please see the following:

Take care when you are reading old material. Start a new thread if you must and link to the old one, but do not revive old material like this.

Thanks,
The Management :P

Goomb

If you are willing to do a little extra work, it's not that hard to make MR. Orc-20. If you used the cloth banner, you should still have the cow, bull, or whatever that is skull leftover. Cho off the horns REALLY close to the skull. There is your torso. For the legs, the box comes with a 20th pair of legs. The problem is they are rider legs. To solve this problem, chop the legs just above the knee, at a 45 degree-ish angle, and same at the hips. Rearange the pieces until you get a pose you like, then glue them together. After that, it's just arms, and a head.

Simply Squish

Not a bad idea Squish :) don't suppose you can grace us with pics down at the Painting & Hobby board? :D

GW sell packs of three or four plastic orcs so if you had a few regiments of 19 you could add these to them. Again, typical GW though. Spending good money on a regiment box set isn't enough to get you a proper regiment. You have to fill it up with another box set or character model. :o

It's not that bad actually. I usually don't want even numbers in my units so I've got one spot left for a hero or lord.

:(Gamesworkshop is just mean to orc and gobo players. :o

I agree with you all it is a simple GW marketing scheme to make more cash. By going out and buying either the box of 4 snap fit orcs or the plastic warboss kit. But look on the bright side us. Those poor 40k players have to spend £18 on an ork truck whitch is only 35 points base.

Consider yourself's lucky Skar (2c)

I'd like to think of it as marketing and GW wanting more money. lets say for some reason you want two orc boy squads at the minimum of 10, now you have to pay 70 bucks instead of 35 :P but then again im paranoid !

Yeah, "marketing and GW wanting more money", right...

Apr 22 2007 :lol:

I am surprised that no one mentioned that the command sprue has rider legs, thus you can make your boar boyz plastic orc Boar boyz.

i must ask how you can get 20 orcs in the battalion, they cant have some battalion sprue can they?

I remember one of my friends fretting about this recently. He decided to buy a box to find out. To his joy he found there were 20 regular orc boyz and the parts to make 3 command models, making 23 in total.

Someone please correct me if his tale isn't correct!

That's what it says in White Dwarf this month. My guess is they put they an extra Boyz frame in the battalion - since there is more room in that big box.