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Title: New Genjutsu System/Senjutsu Updates


Itashi - May 28, 2005 12:41 AM (GMT)
Okay Genjutsu is being changed a bit, pretty much it will be the same, all can still cancel Genjutsu but it can be easier for those who specialise in Genjutsu! Also only Basic Genjutsu can be used, that is the sight sense only, and only those that change settings. Meaning no Damage, Henge is still for all people. Also even Genjutsu specialsts cannot use more than 1 sense at a time. That's Majere's Genjutsu specialty, they are capable of effecting multiple senses at the same time

First the Pain system.

The pain system, is using pain on yourself to escape a genjutsu trap, this has to be used within 1 turn of being infected. This will not work on Eye Genjutsu, in otherwords Genjutsu created from Doujutsu. With the pain system your Defense+Genjutsu have to be 4/5 of the user's Genjutsu+Chakra Control. The pain system costs the cost of the genjutsu(1 x Cost) from Taijutsu and 1/4 of the genjutsu cost from health(.25 x Cost)

Now the Teammate Cancel is a bit different. It is fairly easy to tell when a person is caught in a genjutsu, a team mate must channel their chakra into you, to disrupt the chakra flow so a clear thought can be acquired. By doing this the team mate pays 3/4 of the Genjutsu Cost (.75 x Cost) and the user who is infected must pay 1/2 the Genjutsu Cost(0.5 x Cost). Now if there were 2 team mates using this cancel on you, each team mate would pay 1/2 the Genjutsu cost, and you would stay pay half.

Now for Kai, you will need Genjutsu Senjutsu and have it taught by a Genjutsu user who is Chuunin rank or above, those who are Chuunin or Higher and have Genjutsu Senjutsu may choose to keep it become a Genjutsu Specialist. Also Im making it an OOC rule that Sharingan CANNOT copy this.

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» Kai » Cost of Genjutsu Dispelled X 1.0
» Cancel
» Academy-Genjutsu
» Technique Points: 80
» Used by: Genjutsu Specialsts
Description: A jutsu that destroys/cancels out an illusionary jutsu attempted on the user. Can only be used on genjutsu's of your rank or below.
[Instant]


Now for the Genjutsu

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» Basic Genjutsu
» Rank: Academy
Description: This form of Genjutsu mastery is the most basic form. It allows anyone who learns it to use Kai, they must be taught by a Chuunin or higher Genjutsu Specialist. Genjutsu does 10% more Damage
Learn: 20 Lines.

» Advanced Genjutsu
» Rank: Genin
Description: This form of Genjutsu mastery is a more advanced. With this the user now can use Sense of Sight, Hearing, and Touch Genjutsu, Genjutsu does 15% more damage. Must Learn Basic Genjutsu first.
Learn: 40 Lines.

» Mastered Genjutsu
» Rank: Chuunin
Description: This form of Genjutsu mastery is one of the more advanced forms. With this the user can use Genjutsu that effects any sense. Genjutsu does 20% more Damage. Must learn Advanced Genjutsu First
Learn: 60 Lines.

» Perfected Genjutsu
» Rank: Chuunin
Description: This form of Genjutsu mastery is the most advanced form. With this the user's Genjutsu does 25% more damage and costs 10% less. Must Learn Mastered Genjutsu First.
Learn: 100 Lines.


- Joint Effort of Raistlin & Chibi

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QUOTE (Current Senjutsu)

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» Basic Taijutsu
» Rank: Academy
Description: This form of Taijutsu mastery is the most basic form. It allows anyone who learns it to use Taijutsu with competence. This makes your Taijutsu's 5% stronger.
Learn: 20 Lines.

» Advanced Taijutsu
» Rank: Genin
Description: This form of Taijutsu mastery is a more advanced. This makes your Taijutsu's 8% stronger. Must learn Basic Taijutsu first.
Learn: 40 Lines.

» Mastered Taijutsu
» Rank: Chuunin
Description: This form of Taijutsu mastery is one of the more advanced forms. Makes your Taijutsu's 10% stronger. Must learn Advanced Taijutsu first.
Learn: 60 Lines.

» Perfected Taijutsu
» Rank: Chuunin
Description: This form of Taijutsu mastery is the most advanced form. Your Taijutsu's get 15% stronger. Must learn Mastered Taijutsu first.
Learn: 100 Lines.


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» Basic Ninjutsu
» Rank: Academy
Description: This form of Ninjutsu mastery is the most basic form. It allows anyone who learns it to use Ninjutsu with competence. This makes your Ninjutsus 5% stronger.
Learn: 20 Lines.

» Advanced Ninjutsu
» Rank: Genin
Description: This form of Ninjutsu mastery is a more advanced. Your Ninjutsus gets 8% stronger. Must learn Basic Ninjutsu first.
Learn: 40 Lines.

» Mastered Ninjutsu
» Rank: Chuunin
Description: This form of Ninjutsu mastery is one of the more advanced forms. Your Ninjutsus gets 10% stronger. Must learn Advanced Ninjutsu first.
Learn: 60 Lines.

» Perfected Ninjutsu
» Rank: Chuunin
Description: This form of Ninjutsu mastery is the most advanced form. Your Ninjutsus get 15% stronger. Must learn Mastered Ninjutsu first.
Learn: 100 Lines.



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» Basic Taijutsu
» Rank: Academy
Description: This form of Taijutsu mastery is the most basic form. It allows anyone who learns it to use Taijutsu with competence. This makes your Taijutsu's 10% stronger.
Learn: 20 Lines.

» Advanced Taijutsu
» Rank: Genin
Description: This form of Taijutsu mastery is a more advanced. This makes your Taijutsu's 15% stronger. Must learn Basic Taijutsu first.
Learn: 40 Lines.

» Mastered Taijutsu
» Rank: Chuunin
Description: This form of Taijutsu mastery is one of the more advanced forms. Makes your Taijutsu's 20% stronger. Must learn Advanced Taijutsu first.
Learn: 60 Lines.

» Perfected Taijutsu
» Rank: Chuunin
Description: This form of Taijutsu mastery is the most advanced form. Your Taijutsu's get 25% stronger and costs 10% less. Must learn Mastered Taijutsu first.
Learn: 100 Lines.


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» Basic Ninjutsu
» Rank: Academy
Description: This form of Ninjutsu mastery is the most basic form. It allows anyone who learns it to use Ninjutsu with competence. This makes your Ninjutsus 10% stronger.
Learn: 20 Lines.

» Advanced Ninjutsu
» Rank: Genin
Description: This form of Ninjutsu mastery is a more advanced. Your Ninjutsus gets 15% stronger. Must learn Basic Ninjutsu first.
Learn: 40 Lines.

» Mastered Ninjutsu
» Rank: Chuunin
Description: This form of Ninjutsu mastery is one of the more advanced forms. Your Ninjutsus gets 20% stronger. Must learn Advanced Ninjutsu first.
Learn: 60 Lines.

» Perfected Ninjutsu
» Rank: Chuunin
Description: This form of Ninjutsu mastery is the most advanced form. Your Ninjutsus get 25% stronger and costs 10% less. Must learn Mastered Ninjutsu first.
Learn: 100 Lines.



We're going back to the old system from SA, if you need your senjutsus to be updated, feel free to PM me or post them here so that another admin/mod can update them.

Ryu - May 28, 2005 01:08 AM (GMT)
I need Genjutsu and Ninjutsu ones updated on Ketsueki, and also the Kai. And on Aisuryuu I need teh Ninjutsu one updated. o.o;

Kit - May 28, 2005 01:23 AM (GMT)
so does that mean we loose kai? (those who have it but aren't gen masters/chuunin or above)

Itashi - May 28, 2005 01:26 AM (GMT)
Yeah.

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Now for Kai, you will need Genjutsu Senjutsu and have it taught by a Genjutsu user who is Chuunin rank or above, those who are Chuunin or Higher and have Genjutsu Senjutsu may choose to keep it become a Genjutsu Specialist.


The only way for anyone to keep Kai is to become a Genjutsu Specialist and either be Chuunin or above or have someone Chuunin or above teach them it.

Gensou - May 28, 2005 01:30 AM (GMT)
Pain system is equivilent to Kai(Old version)

Midus - May 28, 2005 01:44 AM (GMT)
Is the Defense being 30% over Genjutsu thing still in?

Gensou - May 28, 2005 01:46 AM (GMT)
for dodging? Yes

Slick - May 28, 2005 05:33 AM (GMT)
need my ninjutsu senjutsus updated, and I guess Kai removed from my profile

Itashi - May 28, 2005 05:45 AM (GMT)
[Updated Ryu and Slick]

Kaos - May 28, 2005 05:50 AM (GMT)
sounds good. im gonna get to work on the new ninjutsu's dont worry bout updating me. i dont have them. ill work on them this weekend if maluka chan actually posts...

Michy - May 28, 2005 09:41 AM (GMT)
Righto...another system to get used to >.>. I like the teammate idea tho. ^__^.
P/s: Update me for ninjutsu-ish and remove kai. ^_^

Slick - May 28, 2005 10:57 AM (GMT)
Hmmm....question; For the teammate cancel, do the teammates have to have Kai to cancel it, or do they just ahve to spend the chakra?

Raistlin - May 28, 2005 11:13 AM (GMT)
just spend the chakra

Slick - May 28, 2005 11:15 AM (GMT)
Ya know Raist, this is really going to make your clan even stronger, lol

Kane - May 28, 2005 11:34 AM (GMT)
I need my characters ninjutsu senjutsu updated when you get the chance please. Thanks.

-gimlianon

Kaioga - May 28, 2005 11:47 AM (GMT)
Need my senjutsu updated and *rolls eyes* Kai removed.

TAG - May 28, 2005 02:24 PM (GMT)
Hrrmmm... I guess I need Kai removed. I'll havta think about something to replace it. *goes off to think*

Itashi - May 28, 2005 06:24 PM (GMT)
[Updated Michy, Gimi, Kaioga, Tag(both charas)]

Gensou - May 28, 2005 10:26 PM (GMT)
also remember, genjutsu will be removed except the most basics, meaning non-damage, only vision type. Meaning genjutsu like Henge and Bunshin and setting changing illusions. Only genjutsu specialists can use the others.

Raistlin - May 30, 2005 04:26 AM (GMT)
yeah true slick. o_O
i suppose its changes inspired by the latest chapters of the manga, itachi's obvious ownage with genjutsu and the lack of counters for it.

TAG - May 30, 2005 05:04 AM (GMT)
Well, if that's the case... Even Naruto learned to use Kai, and he's definately not a Genjutsu specialist. oo;;

Gensou - May 30, 2005 05:06 AM (GMT)
actually he didn't learn how to use kai. naruto is told a lot of things he doesnt understand or uses.

TAG - May 30, 2005 05:08 AM (GMT)
Well he learned to "Assert your control over your Chakura" like he tried, yet failed, to do against Itachi. That's what Kai is, neh?

Gensou - May 30, 2005 05:09 AM (GMT)
He was explained about Kai, doesn't mean he can do it, so no Naruto can't use Kai.

Climax - May 30, 2005 06:41 AM (GMT)
Well I like the new system. :wub:

Gensou - May 30, 2005 12:52 PM (GMT)
Overall this is better, it is more fair for Genjutsu users. Since before nothing stopped people from mastering in Genjutsu and other things. This creates more diversity and strategy. There is more options to people to cancel Genjutsu, so it's a bit easier now. Also to be a genjutsu user you must put the time and energy in.

Slick - May 30, 2005 01:00 PM (GMT)
I agree with that completely, but couldn't there be a crappier version of Kai for those who don't specialize in Genjutsu that would make it a lot harder to cancel it out, like 2x of the cost of the genjutsu instead of 1 or 1.25?

Gensou - May 30, 2005 01:08 PM (GMT)
There is the Pain System and Team mate system, the pain system has 1.25 x Cost. Just like Kai did.




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