Title: Larry Brown DID beg for Steve Francis
Strider - January 26, 2007 10:32 PM (GMT)
I got this from a credible source (no, not a reporter, or even Isiah - much better) and ya'll can trust me as your source.
Larry hated Marbury, even more than the media reported. He begged Isiah to make the trade and sold him on the idea that it could work (the new age Frazier & Monroe) for the sole purpose of making Marbury flip out. Steph had stopped listening to him and would sometimes ignore his play calls, so Larry wanted to stick it to him by trading for a similar point guard whom he'd hoped to mold into his own and make Marbury look bad. When Francis got there, he instructed him to befriend all the players except Marbury and take on a leadership role. He'd slowly get worked into the offense and Marbury would get phased out, while being isolated and ignored in the locker room. Larry's hope was that Marbury would be so uncomfortable that he'd either do something to get suspended or force a trade. But it didn't work because Marbury kind of intercepted Francis and won him over. A friendship sparked (remember Steve wore the Starbury Ones to start the season?) and he refused to alienate Marbury. Larry got pissed and decided to stick it to both of them by screwing around with the minutes, often relegating Francis to the bench to finish the year (so it wasn't JUST because Steve sucked). That's what led to the "player revolt" at the end-of-season meeting.
Contrary to popular belief, Larry wasn't trying to sabotage the team to get Isiah fired. It was Marbury he hated and wanted off the team. But in doing so, he forced the Knicks to take on Francis' contract, which further cap-f*cked the team and reflected poorly on Isiah. Isiah, although he doesn't dislike him as a person, never wanted Francis and hates the fact that he's here. Because of that, Isiah turned on Larry and convinced Dolan to fire him. That's why the two of them in that press conference kept saying, "We were on our way to getting under the cap, then Larry begged us to trade for Francis."
timotime - January 27, 2007 01:59 AM (GMT)
As someone who has been a big fan of Steve Francis his entire career, Isiah has to get that guy out of here. This is just sad. If both Francis and Marbury are healthy and on the same court, you're just ruining two should-be elite players.
Strider - January 27, 2007 02:18 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (timotime @ Jan 26 2007, 09:59 PM) |
| As someone who has been a big fan of Steve Francis his entire career, Isiah has to get that guy out of here. This is just sad. If both Francis and Marbury are healthy and on the same court, you're just ruining two should-be elite players. |
How do you trade him, though? No buyout has been discussed yet (contrary to what was reported) and I don't think any team will take a 30-year-old point guard with bad knees who makes $16M per, is on the decline and hasn't had a good season in like 3-4 years.
timotime - January 27, 2007 02:54 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Strider @ Jan 26 2007, 10:18 PM) |
| QUOTE (timotime @ Jan 26 2007, 09:59 PM) | | As someone who has been a big fan of Steve Francis his entire career, Isiah has to get that guy out of here. This is just sad. If both Francis and Marbury are healthy and on the same court, you're just ruining two should-be elite players. |
How do you trade him, though? No buyout has been discussed yet (contrary to what was reported) and I don't think any team will take a 30-year-old point guard with bad knees who makes $16M per, is on the decline and hasn't had a good season in like 3-4 years.
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I heard Max Kellerman mention on espnradio that the Sixers might have interest in him, though kellerman is almost always full of sh*t.
Strider - January 27, 2007 07:03 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (timotime @ Jan 26 2007, 10:54 PM) |
| QUOTE (Strider @ Jan 26 2007, 10:18 PM) | | QUOTE (timotime @ Jan 26 2007, 09:59 PM) | | As someone who has been a big fan of Steve Francis his entire career, Isiah has to get that guy out of here. This is just sad. If both Francis and Marbury are healthy and on the same court, you're just ruining two should-be elite players. |
How do you trade him, though? No buyout has been discussed yet (contrary to what was reported) and I don't think any team will take a 30-year-old point guard with bad knees who makes $16M per, is on the decline and hasn't had a good season in like 3-4 years.
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I heard Max Kellerman mention on espnradio that the Sixers might have interest in him, though kellerman is almost always full of sh*t.
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He's been saying that for a couple weeks. That if the Sixers trade for Francis then it'll prove that Larry did want him.
I don't think so. They're a rebuilding team that just got rid of Iverson's contract, so why would they want to take on another big one? Especially since they've got Andre Miller (who, I think, has an expiring) at point and Iguodala has kind of emerged since the trade.
I think they'll eventually wind up buying him out.
MastaR316 - January 28, 2007 06:45 PM (GMT)
This was a disaster to say the least. I don't mind trading Francis for another bad contract of the same length (two years after this one) if the player the Knicks get back can help.
Sori4Mvp - January 28, 2007 07:04 PM (GMT)
Steve Francis can do a lot of things, he's a nice players. Had some good moments with the Magic; and the Magic were going well his first year till they traded his boy Mobley for Doug Christie (big mistake by the Magic at the time)
Francis has one problem though, he dribbles too damn much. He's always had solid numbers, probably had his best year of his career in 2004-2005 with the Magic, but I just don't know if I'd want him as my point guard at the price it would cost.
Strider - January 28, 2007 10:31 PM (GMT)
Francis ain't gay, but there's a pretty strong rumor going that Cuttino likes boys. And what was that sh*t Steve had said when they traded Cat off the Magic: "I have no reason to get out of bed in the morning."