Title: Son of Coma Guy
cathyNH - November 15, 2006 03:01 AM (GMT)
...wow...
I've been lukewarm on the last few episodes, but this one is going to rank up there with Autopsy and Three Stories...
...wow...
I'll be more coherent later.
nomad1328 - November 15, 2006 04:45 AM (GMT)
Nice ep overall- thoroughly enjoyed it and looking forward to watching it on a screen where i can see and hear through the fuzz of very bad reception. I think its time to get a DV-R so if I find myself in this position again, I can rely on a recording at home.
Complaint: The question sequences were a bit contrived, i thought- though they offered some needed insight into House.
The Papa House question moves onwards... so House wants his dad to say he was right. Because he never has? House's dad seems (from Daddy's Boy) like a genuinely friendly (but probably tough) guy. He seemed more interested in House's happiness than anything else... but when you look back at the words he spoke, every one seemed to challenge his son. It seems like maybe his dad just can't accept his son for who he is- no unconditional love here? Who knows... maybe the upcoming eps will tell all.
Tritter's turning into the sketchy guy everyone thought he was... though I haven't seen all of last week's episode. I would've liked him to be portrayed as more down to earth and less of an ass... but maybe that's coming? Doubtful. He was clearly trying to manipulate any underlying resentment that the ducks had for House. Fortunately, the ducks appear to be sticking together... somewhat.
The suicide bit was unexpected and a nice throw. For a second I thought the kid was going to bite it and the guy was going to go back to his coma.
Wilson works in mysterious ways to me- I mean what would YOU do if your buddy stole your prescription pad- thus putting either your best friendship or your livlihood on the line? He seemed furious at first and then he ends up giving House an alibi. And then the frozen bank accounts and lunch? If that happened to me, I'd head straight out of there and I wouldn't want to see House for a week at least. I may punch him... but Wilson just grins and bears it. He's got some crazy loyalty to House.
Oh well- my perception of this episode was seriously marred by reception. Crazy how much perception depends on facial expressions. I think I'm going to go write house dad fic....
Goofyman - November 15, 2006 05:14 AM (GMT)
I loved this episode. I don't know why, but every moment of it was refreshing to me. Maybe it's because I've been wanting me some House loving for a while. I found it kind of odd that both Wilson and House were able to just leave with apparently no notice, and no visible repercussions. The patient took, in some ways, a major backseat to the main storyline of House character development (for the most part). I actually liked the questions sequence, I didn't think it felt forced (maybe that's my blind House lust talking) and it certainly was fun to see Wilson fighting for the hoagie. I do miss the classic musical overture with random video clips showing various people in ponderous positions. So dramatic.
I just thought this was really well acted, especially vegetative state guy. I liked it a lot.
Can't offer a lot...but I liked the back story of becoming a doctor...House knows he can't fit in, so he doesn't try, and is used when needed? Fits perfectly. Maybe too perfectly, I wonder how much was contrived (if at all, of course).
prplchknz - November 15, 2006 07:14 AM (GMT)
I loved the episode. It was one of the best ones of the season I loved that it wasn't the same as alot of the other episode. I love the other episodes it's just that it was a nice change. I love House's interactions with the characters which is always good. So far Cameron hasn't lo st her back bone I give it three more episodes anyone want to make a wager with me? I thought it was sweet when House told Wilson to leave because they didn't want there friendship to break. Me being the sappy person who needs romance in her life or even friends up here went "awww" mentally, I was with my mom she thinks I'm odd because I plan my life around House. But it was so good tonight I love House and Vegetative State guy interactions I could have seen them becoming friends if he didn't kill himself to save his son which I know is some sort of referernce. Maybe I'm wrong who knows I'm done with babbling partially coherent.
I still don't buy House being an addict because if you remember in "Withdrawl" (sorry if that's not the right name I'll look it up in a bit and change it) what he went through. I think he remembers that and is just being prepared. I mean addict in the since that Tritter is making House out to be. Although I will say I like Tritter better then Volger but I should re-watch the Volger episodes since I might remember him being more 1-d then Tritter. Maybe I'm thinking that cuz someone on here said that. I'm don'e posting until I can get my own thoughts.
I will add when House and Wilson were setting up the Alibi I thought the guy that responded to Wilson when he asked House what the room # was, was a really bad stunt double and I died just a bit inside (in a painful, unpleasant way). 5 seconds later I realized what was going on so I was revived. I don't understand why they needed to establish House being in the casino, and why use a different guy. Am I just being dense again?
Armchair Elvis - November 15, 2006 09:52 AM (GMT)
Sorry for the OT (haven't watched this one yet) but...
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Woo! Bring it on!
Lily - November 15, 2006 01:26 PM (GMT)
Busy day, can't sit and think as long as I need to for intelligent discussion, but some first impressions:
Yeah...*slow grin* Fact one: I'm ridiculously hard to please when it comes to movies and TV shows. Fact two: I was ridiculously happy with this episode. Yeah, it had a couple of flaws, but overall I loved just about every minute of it. Refreshing is a good word, Goofyman. The writing and overall craftsmanship were superior; it was one of those episodes that reminds me why I love the show so much.
Which leads me to my next point. Am I the only one who falls in absolute fangirl love with House every time he wears that scarf and hat? *wades into shallow end* I'm not sure why it's so attractive, but...anyway, happy me. :lol: :lol: :lol:
HL and RSL pulled off the suicide scene beautifully. You know, I actually had a dream last night where I rewatched the episode and it turned out at the end that the guy wasn't actually dead--it was some trick of House's. I was SO MAD at the show. And then I woke up and couldn't remember if it was a dream or not. :unsure: Ah, my life...
RealRazumihin - November 15, 2006 01:44 PM (GMT)
Not sure if this ad played in all parts of the country, but in my town, there was a giant House-sponsored-by-Chase-Bank ad right at the beginning.
So I guess that's where Chase went, last episode. He's a banker now.
Some deep stuff here. This was the first one in a while that had me really into it.
Though also being a CSI fan, I am worried about details like fingerprints, and how the guy actually ended up offing himself. I think when Wilson and House were out in the hall, I heard a thump, implying the guy was in there alone doing it, but I'm not sure. It'd be hard to strangle yourself . . . unless he sorta tied something around his neck then tied it to something else and pulled . . . somehow I just don't see House doing it with his own two hands, though. Anyone have any thoughts about that?
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| I will add when House and Wilson were setting up the Alibi I thought the guy that responded to Wilson when he asked House what the room # was, was a really bad stunt double and I died just a bit inside (in a painful, unpleasant way). 5 seconds later I realized what was going on so I was revived. I don't understand why they needed to establish House being in the casino, and why use a different guy. Am I just being dense again? |
It took me awhile to get that too. The fact is, people would have seen House there. Casinos have all sorts of video cameras. House's fingerprints would be all over the room. Wilson wanted to bother this woman in a way that she would remember later on, and he wanted to make sure she heard him talking to someone named House at the time the coma guy was killing himself.
Though if Cuddy put two and two together so quickly at the hospital, it makes me worry about Tritter getting a hold of this. He's pretty good at reading people and pulling strings.
I wasn't sure at first why Wilson was so persistently, obnoxiously coming on to that woman, though. Wilson, is this how you deal with stress? No wonder your marriages didn't work! And then I realized what he was doing.
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| Wilson works in mysterious ways to me- I mean what would YOU do if your buddy stole your prescription pad- thus putting either your best friendship or your livlihood on the line? He seemed furious at first and then he ends up giving House an alibi. And then the frozen bank accounts and lunch? If that happened to me, I'd head straight out of there and I wouldn't want to see House for a week at least. I may punch him... but Wilson just grins and bears it. He's got some crazy loyalty to House. |
Yes, though in the preview for the next ep, it looks like Wilson might crack a bit. Which doesn't surprise me. House was so cavalier about the whole stolen pad discussion (pre coma guy waking up). That had to hurt.
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| Which leads me to my next point. Am I the only one who falls in absolute fangirl love with House every time he wears that scarf and hat? |
Nope! :D For me it's also the black coat with the one brown button, which he was wearing again in this ep.
tpel1 - November 15, 2006 02:16 PM (GMT)
As I was watching this episode, I kept going "this is just TOO silly." House wakes up Coma Guy (or, rather, PVS Guy), then they go on a road trip, and they play 20 questions about House's relationship with his dad, while Tritter hangs around the hospital making insinuations. What is this, bad fanfic?
Yet, despite this running commentary from the critical part of my brain, I was sucked into the episode. John Laroquette (sp?) was great. Wilson . . . poor Wilson. House's response to being confronted about his prescription transgression was awful. "You lied -- problem solved," isn't exactly the heartfelt apology that Wilson deserves. And the scenes where House instructs PVS Guy on how to kill himself, then sits out in the hall while he does it -- Wow. Sitting there, waiting, House seemed quietly, yet deeply, shaken. Great understated intensity from HL.
Dr. Xreader - November 15, 2006 03:10 PM (GMT)
My two favorite things about this episode were finding out how House and Stacy met (House does seem the type to like paintball and Stacy probably went out with him because of guilt or something.)
Also, finding out why House wanted to become a doctor. That little story makes a lot of things clearer now.
Lastly, with all that Tritter is doing to try and portray House as a junkie, I am curious about something: Does Tritter really know and understand what exactly happened to House's leg?
prplchknz - November 15, 2006 03:34 PM (GMT)
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Wilson works in mysterious ways to me- I mean what would YOU do if your buddy stole your prescription pad- thus putting either your best friendship or your livlihood on the line? He seemed furious at first and then he ends up giving House an alibi. And then the frozen bank accounts and lunch? If that happened to me, I'd head straight out of there and I wouldn't want to see House for a week at least. I may punch him... but Wilson just grins and bears it. He's got some crazy loyalty to House. |
I understand why Wilson does it because, I do the similiar things with some friends. I can't explain it or know the reason why, but it wasn't mysterious to me. I have one friend that's insane and I'm always getting her out of trouble, and lending things to her. From the outside it looks like she's a sucky friend but she's one of the best friends I've got. Also it could be Wilson being afraid of being alone, which I know that partially why I do similar things. I would have done the same thing Wilson did most likely. I don't think he wants House to go to prison, because he recognizes how good House is at his job and what PPTH would be losing, not that their friendship doesn't play a role into Wilson's behavior.
I think it's a combination of Wilson not wanting to lose a friend and protect a good doctor, in the since of he's good at his actually job, not so much with patient interactions. I think that House chooses to be rude to patients partially because he can, and if he wanted to he could have a "good" bed side manner.
Benj - November 15, 2006 10:13 PM (GMT)
Just wow! Will be more thoughtful later but have to say how I loved the continuity and that, after all the time since Love Hurts, House's comment to Cameron about the 'paintball turney' turned out to be significant -awesome!
sasmom - November 15, 2006 11:31 PM (GMT)
Son of Coma Guy
3x07
This is going to be a little random¡Xapologies to all for it¡¦s rambling nature. Too many thoughts about too many different things:
When I first heard the name of this episode, I scratched my head a bit. The title gave off the aroma of a lighter episode, especially when I saw the title combined with ¡§guest star John Laroquette.¡¨ Of course I remembered John L from his long time character Dan Fielding, first of Night Court, and then with his own spin off. Dan Fielding was a snarky, bitter ass. But beneath his heartless DA was a broken man, and that pathos was what eventually stuck with me for the few times it revealed itself. I never really liked Dan Fielding, but I enjoyed the character and how Laroquette played him. This episode was so far off from a light hearted episode, it just might have been the heaviest episode of House, ever. Or close to it. I cannot emphasize how much I loved this episode. It ranks in my humble esteem right up there with Three Stories, No Reason, All In and several others for what it reveals about the character of House, what makes him tick; what makes him human and what made him broken.
Getting the ordinary stuff out of the way. I enjoyed the way the fellows closed ranks around each other and House. Even Foreman (who would have a natural disdain for the cops anyway¡Xand a mistrust of them) backed House, albeit left-handedly. Interesting too, is that House does seem to acknowledge Foreman as the in-his-absence leader of the group. House speaks to Foreman to coordinate the diagnosis. Nice subtle bit there. Tritter¡¦s an ass. That just needed to be said. He careful attempt to manipulate both Cameron and Chase was subtly threatening and quite unnerving. We know what Cameron and Foreman said, but not what Chase said. Will that come into play?
Cuddy was in so few scenes, but they were important. Well, at least one of them was ļ.
¡§Being right¡¨ vs. ¡§doing the right thing.¡¨ Which one did House mean? House says that he would have wanted his father to tell him ¡§that he was right,¡¨ but then clarifies ¡§that he did the right thing.¡¨ I wonder if papa House wanted Greg to follow a different career path¡Kto use his genius in some other way; Or did Greg do something as a young man or teenager that was something he shouldn¡¦t have done ¡V break the rules for example¡Xbut that was for some greater good? He was right to do what he did¡Khe did the ¡§right¡¨ thing. House¡¦s father has that insane moral compass that sees things as either right or wrong; black or white. House the younger sees the grays and nuances of life and acts on them. Maybe House did this ¡§bad, but right¡¨ thing and Dad found out, with dire consequences for House. They lived all over the world, so maybe House did something that was against the rules or law of the country, but saw it as right, but dad turned him in because he broke the rules. Could have had a profound impact on House regarding what is ¡§right¡¨ vs. what is ¡§correct.¡¨
This episode featured something quite unusual. There were resonances for House in both the father and the son. In the case of the son, House relates to him because he, too, was always ¡§wrong.¡¨ Kyle feels responsible for setting the House on fire and killing his mother and making his father into a veggie. When dad awakens, he does nothing to reconnect with the son, making him feel worse. When House tells Kyle at the end ¡§that he was ¡¥right¡¦¡¨ that he did the ¡§right thing¡¨, House knows they are the words he would like to hear from his own father. But why tell them to Kyle. To House they are soothing and healing words; words he has never heard from his father¡Xto Kyle maybe he will interpret them to mean that on the night of the fire, Kyle was right to tell his father that the popcorn kettle was too heavy; that his dad just wasn¡¦t listening; that he was right to stay connected all these years with his father¡Xto keep visiting him, despite him being a vegetable¡Xthat it made a difference in dad¡¦s quality of life when it came to the one day he got to live again. Maybe he could interpret it to mean that ultimately he was not to blame and that he was a good kid. Any other thoughts?
But House also related to the father. The dad ran away from his relationship with his son. As House says: he has an allergy to emotional connection. Pot, meet kettle. But like with House, there is more than meets the eye. He runs away, because he feels to blame for not being able to either save his wife or keep his son safe. He makes the ultimate sacrifice for his son as an act of redemption.
Interesting little exchange between House and Wilson. When House offers to answer any question. ¡§take my dignity; take a way my privacy.¡¨ He looks at Wilson with such a look of hurt on his face¡Xa reaction to Wilson airing their dirty laundry in public. Doing just that to him. Now that he¡¦s been stripped of that¡K
We got so much insight into just who House is it¡¦s almost overwhelming and so incredibly sad. Acceptance only because of that one thing. It¡¦s the only thing that house has. House has a terrible relationship with his father. His father never approves of anything House does; is brutally honest (and probably hurtful); will brook no untruth from the young man. He can't do anything right. An outcast in his own family in a sense. A baby swan in a family of ducks, to be metaphorical. He brings his friend to the hospital after a fall (which, in itself says something--already a need to rescue?). He goes in the wrong entrance and sees a janitor, probably thinks little or nothing of him or ever having seen him. His friend develops an infection (ties into House's specialty of ID?) which the docs cannot cure. Or maybe even diagnose properly. They call in the janitor who turns out to be a doctor. The man's value rises as he is the only one able to cure the young man. It is this one thing that connects the outcast to society; the one thing that cannot be taken away from him--this abililty to heal. To figure out what's wrong; it is the source of his dignity. It is was ultimately mad him human in the eyes of society. House understands this and maybe files it away for years. He studies science at school because he is at heart so analytical and brilliant (my guess is chemistry)--but when it comes time for post-graduate work, House remembers the doctor and how by having that gift to "be right" and heal, when no one else could--and how that healing allowed him to rise above where society cast him--opted to pursue medicine. House, the rebel, the outcast--sees this as his salvation. To have "one thing" that no matter what everyone else thinks of him, no matter what he thinks of himself it's his entree into human-ness. If everyone hates him, despises him, casts him away...he still has this one thing that people still need him for--a tether without which he could be completely lost.
Wilson¡¦s contention about House pushing all relationships¡Xtesting them to the breaking point (his father¡¦s own love for House was clearly conditional). What motivates House to push relationships, to test them continually to see if they will break. He is certain of one thing, in my opinion. He is neither destined nor deserving of the sort of loving relationships he has probably idealized somewhere in his mind. House is a disillusioned romantic/idealist. So he pushes his relationships to the brink. Intentionally? No. It¡¦s just an unconscious testing, but he¡¦s so sure that they¡¦re not going to withstand it, that they will break. Like his relationship with Stacy. House¡¦s dad¡¦s love was clearly conditional. We don¡¦t know on what. We only know that House hates his father. And that House (in his own eyes) never met those conditions. Unconditional love? Not possible. House¡¦s cynicism about relationships stems from this. Everyone¡¦s relationship has a breaking point. Commitment is fleeting, we only don¡¦t know how fleeting.
This is the season of doctor-assisted suicide, isn¡¦t it? I was really, really shocked with this one. I completely didn¡¦t see it coming. Dad offers himself. It¡¦s a selfless act; one that would redeem him set things right. It¡¦s ¡§the right¡¨ thing to do. Unselfish and without ulterior motive. It is a pure sacrifice of self. As soon as he makes it, House is on the phone to Cuddy to ask permission to do it. Of course she says no. But at least he made the gesture and tried to color within the lines. This entire scene is all sorts of amazing.
House orders Wilson to leave. Wilson knows exactly what¡¦s in House¡¦s mind and refuses. Hoping to stop House? To help him? How many times has Wilson helped a patient die, I wonder? I believe it¡¦s at least a few times. With Ezra, Wilson advocated that House help him die and House refused, not seeing Ezra as terminal. He does see dad as terminal. House offers Wilson a gift. A disclosure that their relationship matters. A lot. That he doesn¡¦t try to push relationships, but it happens. He doesn¡¦t want to dynamite this relationship and to put Wilson in a compromised position again. So House, who, in his heart knows that he¡¦s probably a doomed man anyway with Tritter on his tail, offers himself as the vessel for dad¡¦s redemption. Wilson leaves, and being Wilson, attempts to provide House an alibi. When House does morally compromised things, he usually does not want anyone else involved. He sends them away (nurses, maintenance people, colleagues) and acts alone. The final scene between dad and House is simply beyond words. So I won¡¦t describe it except to say that Hugh Laurie conveyed every emotion on the planet in that scene. He hit every note with virtuosity. He matter-of-factly explains the options and then he makes his final reveal¡Xwhat he would want his own father to say to him. It costs House a lot and by the end of the scene, House is lost to the emotion of the disclosure. I can only imagine what depths as an actor Hugh plummed to pull out those painful and powerful and poignant emotions. I was teary at the end of the scene. And then the wait. House sitting glumly on the floor outside the room. He can¡¦t be privy to the act itself. He can¡¦t ¡§assist¡¨ the suicide. He can only wait. And he and Wilson wait together. Watch the confict in House¡¦s eyes in that scene!
Shallow note: So, House met Stacy playing paintball. Cool. Drs. Vs. Lawyers. Suggestive of a time when House was much, much more social.
So sorry this was so rambly. This episode was so packed with so much emotion. Just incredible. And it gets more intense, I¡¦m sure as the weeks go by. This one was probably the best episode in the season to date. My order?
SoCG¡XA+
C/A¡XA+
I/C--A
LitS--A
Meaning--A
FFL¡XB+
QSS¡XB+
prplchknz - November 16, 2006 06:21 AM (GMT)
This episode title reminds of the song "Son of Preacher Man"
and an old pepsi commercial from the 90's.which used that song.
Armchair Elvis - November 16, 2006 06:43 AM (GMT)
Wow. I have to say this is one of my favourite episodes. Seriously, if the series ended at this point I'd be happy (well, sort of), knowing it had ended with that (except for the non-resolution of the Tritter thing). So, so, so good. :)
More articulate rambling (is that an oxymoron?) later but... Wow. I am blown away.
Catlady - November 16, 2006 07:17 AM (GMT)
Hmm. Not a bad episode by any means, but for some reason not one of my favorites. I'm not sure how much of that can be tied to the episode itself and how much relates to the cold I've been fighting the past couple of days. I'm finally feeling human again, but the past couple of days I haven't been too enthusiastic about anything.
I guess House is going to have to find a new coma guy to eat lunch with/off of. I'm being nitpicky now, but it surprised me that there were several beds in the room. Maybe one you're stable but in a vegetative state you don't require as close monitoring but I'd think that condition would warrant a private room. Oh well.
I think House actually liked Coma Guy--once he was awake of course-- there was that same sarcasm, intelligence, and calculation involved though CG, as I'll call him because I'm lazy, was able to be more open about caring for someone.
I was also glad to see someone really being altruistic for once on this show even if, as Wilson says, it results in killing yourself in a hotel room so they can cut your heart out. And it did get CG in the coma in the first place I guess. Still it takes care of the one thing that annoys me sometimes on this show: the good caring people either always have ulterior motives, or a hidden and often unhealthy dark side, or they're scary and hypocritical.
The question is, do we really know anything more about House? The information he revealed is plausible (I can definitely see House enjoying a game of paintball pre-infarction) but are they really the truth? I once read a fic where House told a different story about how he and Stacy met every time someone asked him but none of them were true. Maybe I'm being influenced by that. I didn't think of it at the time, but maybe he was playing around with the "she shot me" remark, and then made something up to fit with it when questioned further. And if it was Drs. V. Lawyers was it some kind of official event? I'm not sure I can see House going willingly to anything official even if it happened to be fun. Of course someone may have forced him to the way we fan wank that Cuddy forces him to go to things.
The story with the Japanese doctor might be the truth. We saw that he tried to avoid it with a general story about the fascination of the human body--and that may well be a legitimate part of it too-- and House certainly looked uncomfortably backed into a corner. I suppose the story does feed into what we've learned about House's need to be right.
Speaking of that, I can see the wanting his father to acknowledge he's right being very plausible. As I've said in other places, from the glimpse we've had of Mr. House he seems to be a fundamentally caring man who just doesn't get his son. House is definitely not wired like the majority of the rest of the world. As another odd-ball, albeit a far less brilliant, if brilliant at all, one, I can understand. You can know someone loves you immensely but at the same time pick up the vibe that they just have no idea whatsoever where you're coming from and that they think you're wierd. It's not comfortable. And it's probably been a dynamic in their relationship since the beginning. A sample scenario: House refuses to do something he's supposed to do, get's in trouble for it, the parents are informed, it comes out that House had a reasonable objection to doing it, his father being a by-the-book-don't-rock-the-boat kind of guy, as my parents are, says fine, believe what you want, but why couldn't you just suck it up and do it their way. It may well be something that Mr. House has done on several occasions, but to House it's more a question of how could I do that, almost that it would be wrong for him to not register his opposition. And Mr. House does seem to want to see House happy, the problem is he doesn't really get him so when he's suggesting to House what he ought to do so he can be happy and means well, but he's laying out a plan that would make him happy, but wouldn't do anything for House. House may even have explained to him that if he went that route it would not make him happy and Mr. House just can't understand why that would be.
Right now I'm laying it out with the best spin on everyone's actions. For instance, I know, on a logical level, that when people make (mostly unsolicited) suggestions to me about what I ought to do that they're probably genuinely trying to be helpful, but I have a hard time not feeling it as an attack on what I choose to do. Sometimes, maybe it really is. My father's perpetual joke when I'm complaining about anything career related is "Well, you should have studied business". Now I'd rather gouge my eyes out with a spoon than do that. I think he knows that, but I'm not sure. My mother insists that he does and doesn't mean anything by it, he just likes to watch my eyes roll and my blood pressure rise. At any rate I know he loves me and wants the best for me, but it doesn't make it any better. On the other hand, maybe with Mr. House there is more malice behind it.
Okay, more than enough information about Catlady and her sorry life. Moving along, House sent Wilson out of the room so he wouldn't have to lie for him again. Of course House could technically say, "I never suggested he commit suicide, I just mentioned various ways he could do it if he wanted to". Ditto, for why he was in the hall when the deed was done and why his approximate double was seen in the casino. No one can ask why House didn't interfere when he saw CG commit suicide.
As far as the questions about the thump in the hall and how CG did it, hanging can kill you two ways. The ideal way is that the snap when you hit the end of the rope breaks your neck at a high enough level that the nerves that control involuntary functions (heartbeat, breathing, etc.) get severred. If you aren't lucky you strangle from the pressure on your throat. In reality, I'd be a bit worried as hanging seems to be a tricky thing. People who don't mean to strangle themselves e.g. people who are into it as a kink or kids who are just messing around, manage to do it and people who mean to do it end up taking too long to die, get found and get cut down, if, of course, the noose or whatever it's attached to doesn't give. Anyway, CG could die from strangulation by hanging himself. As for the thump, CG would probably have to stand on a chair or something to attach the noose high enough so that his feet wouldn't hit the ground then he'd put the noose around his neck and kick whatever he was standing on away so that he could hang. I assumed the thump was the sound of him kicking away the chair or whatever object he was using.
Armchair Elvis - November 16, 2006 10:26 AM (GMT)
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| I'm not sure how much of that can be tied to the episode itself and how much relates to the cold I've been fighting the past couple of days. I'm finally feeling human again, but the past couple of days I haven't been too enthusiastic about anything. |
I hear you, Catlady! :wacko: (That's the closest I could find to a 'sick' face-thingy. So there you go).
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| I guess House is going to have to find a new coma guy to eat lunch with/off of. I'm being nitpicky now, but it surprised me that there were several beds in the room. Maybe one you're stable but in a vegetative state you don't require as close monitoring but I'd think that condition would warrant a private room. Oh well. |
In my mum's hospital (the one that she works in) they have a ventilator ward. A ward filled with people who, while being alive, exist permanently attached to life-support equipment with little or no brain function. In some of these cases the family of the patient has fought to save their life, to keep them on the ventilator. Some are even 'locked in', aware of their surroundings. I doubt hospitals have the resources to put this sort of operation in a single room - it's pretty expensive.
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| The story with the Japanese doctor might be the truth. We saw that he tried to avoid it with a general story about the fascination of the human body--and that may well be a legitimate part of it too-- and House certainly looked uncomfortably backed into a corner. I suppose the story does feed into what we've learned about House's need to be right. |
I bought most, if not all, of what House said in this episode. You're right, he was backed into a corner. The uncomfortable look he shot at Wilson was very telling, too.
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| ...his father being a by-the-book-don't-rock-the-boat kind of guy... |
The people all said get down, geddown you're rockin' the boat... Sorry. Couldn't help myself.
House's comment about his dad immediately brings to mind the leg. Of course, from what we've seen of him it could be a number of things. Or perhaps just a general statement: I support you. You don't do everything wrong. You're right. I'm proud of you.
Catlady - November 17, 2006 09:58 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Armchair Elvis @ Nov 16 2006, 05:26 AM) |
The people all said get down, geddown you're rockin' the boat... Sorry. Couldn't help myself.
House's comment about his dad immediately brings to mind the leg. Of course, from what we've seen of him it could be a number of things. Or perhaps just a general statement: I support you. You don't do everything wrong. You're right. I'm proud of you. |
I'm such a nerd, but I love that song!
And yeah, I did briefly think of the whole decision on the leg too when he talked about wanting confirmation that he had been right.
I forgot to mention, I loved all the outside cultural references in this episode.
And closing with a semi-serious thought: while House's choice to steal from Wilson's pad may have been partially to test the friendship I'm not sure that's really it. Wouldn't it have attracted undue attention if suddenly he changed prescribing doctors? Of course he wouldn't ask any of the fellows because that would be too much of an admission of weakness. Both Foreman and Chase, while they protected him so far, probably wouldn't go as far as to lie for him when confronted. He has to know that. Cameron might lie for him--you can never tell what will send her into moral condemnation overdrive-- but she'd definitely take that knowledge as carte blanche to try to delve way deeper into House's life and psyche than he'd like her to. She'd totally start fussing over him and House is clearly not the type to put up with being fussed over--Catlady says, while ignoring the overwhelming urge she would have to fuss over him if he were real B)
Benj - November 17, 2006 06:49 PM (GMT)
Interesting thoughts Catlady, sooooo much in this ep it makes my head spin...
Wilson and the nicked 'scrips? I'd say it as all about trust. Either because House was testing Wilson or because he knew, somwhere in his 'rats maze' that Wilson would come through.
I do think that when Gabe asked about loving that Wilson is in there - not lurve love but something pretty deep and beyond his comprehension. I don't think House was aware of it but I think it played a part.