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prplchknz - February 15, 2006 02:59 AM (GMT)
anyone know if the comment about lsd stopping migraines in its tracks is true. that be so cool if it was.

prplchknz - February 15, 2006 03:01 AM (GMT)
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LSD was used as a clinical treatment for migraine, albeit for a short period of time, before bad publicity over its recreational side effects brought about its removal. It was, however, an extremely effective treatment, far more so then either methysergide or ergotamine. Unlike its siblings, LSD was able to function at very small (sub-hallucinogenic) doses. A single dose was also sufficient to provide long term relief, often counted in months.

house_is_god - February 15, 2006 03:17 AM (GMT)
MG WHEN ''PAULA'' showed up and u could only see her back i was like if its cameron there going 2 have sex then u saw kinda curly hair and i was like Cuddy? AND THEN WTF THERE IS NO WAY HOUSE WOULD GET A HOOKER..LIKE WTF HE KNOWS THE RISKS OF AIDS i didnt really like this episode i duno house should be more sad about stacey i think i duno wasent that good the ending sucked...next week its on @ 8 on monday more days :D

prplchknz - February 15, 2006 03:39 AM (GMT)
House is a risk taker. SO yea i could see him with a hooker. of course most of his risks are to prove people wrong or to solve a case.then again i dunno i just can see him with a hooker. and oh yea their's condoms. and it wasn't clear that they were going to have sex although probably but not definite, he just said he needed a distraction.

I loved this episode where wilson's all like "get a hooker, anything please" that cracked me up so much. Put in the situation House was in I could see myself doing the same thing right down to take the dudes medicine and suffering then dropping acid and anti-depressant cocktail.

house_is_god - February 15, 2006 03:48 AM (GMT)
he took acid....i thought he just took that guyz medicine n then somthing to make him have a migrane...lol wow i hate waiting 7 days i heard that they are writing season 3 scripts :D :D

prplchknz - February 15, 2006 03:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (house_is_god @ Feb 14 2006, 10:48 PM)
he took acid....i thought he just took that guyz medicine n then somthing to make him have a migrane...lol wow i hate waiting 7 days i heard that they are writing season 3 scripts :D :D

yea..unless he lied about that but i don't think so, since at the end he was all like. LSD cures migraines, and when they showed it through his eyes in the shower room scene that's how i remember seeing things on acid. and yea you can see music its pretty common supposdley but i dunno never had it happen to me.

Goofyman - February 15, 2006 04:11 AM (GMT)
Ahh, Wilson. You never dissapoint. Great episode. Hugh Laurie + Shower Scene = Gold, even if you're a man. <_<

Talk about a shocking scene. That kid's screaming sounded genuine, and I was almost feeling his pain.

Was House's college known before? As well, cheating? Sounds like House and not like House at the same time. Does he really need to cheat? He knows everything (except what balance is called in the Jewish faith), I can feel my world slowly crashing with this revelation.

Cuddy seems powerless in this episode and in general lately. In the beginning, she was willing to fight, but now she just seems to shrug it off. Not so good for her character, she needs to shut down the elevators for a day and watch House squirm. House forged her signature to preform a speech and gave a comatose patient a migrane.

Oh well, perhaps you guys will have a more in-depth analysis.

house_is_god - February 15, 2006 04:31 AM (GMT)
omg shower scence was good. I hate waiting like i really do 7 days is so long even though this week we have 2 wait 6 yay\

omg the screaming was soo good by the kid i actully felt pain and cringed!

house looked really hot in that lecture..with the trucker hat and the skulls lol aww lol i love him rawr does anyone have a pic of that?

LOL SHUT OFF THE ELEVATORS LMAO omg i would actully pay to see that...k did cuddy and house were they once 2gether? im still like confused about that. and is Wilson married like I know he was but i heard someone say he isnt anymore..

Benj - February 15, 2006 12:15 PM (GMT)
Go-mez! One of my favourite bands and that is an awesome track- that scene was an audio-visual nirvana :D The best of British talent combining - made me feel almost patriotic.

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Hugh Laurie + Shower Scene = Gold, even if you're a man.


Too damn true :)


I might be alone but I thought House had was really compassionate toward the Burns guy- empathy with the pain. He was gentle in the 'woken up' scene and it was a nicely mirrored scene. Never had migraine but it seemed realistic and I loved the way no one was giving House grief apart from Wilson- that felt right. Wilson was awesome again - loved the lecture and the sink clatter- so funny and harsh.






Dr. Xreader - February 15, 2006 02:11 PM (GMT)
Here's my main thought as far as House's migraine experimentation: Why didn't he try to dull the pain with his usual vicodin? Doesn't it work on migraines?

I've never had one so I have no idea.

DocRegent - February 15, 2006 02:42 PM (GMT)
Not having seen the episode, I'm not sure I should comment, but I just wanted to reply re: migranes.

Migranes are a neurological disorder. My Aunt and I both get them. Her's is more severe. Migranes effect your entire body. Your hearing and sight get more accute to the point where you can't stand to see anything brighter than a 20 WATT lightbulb and can't stand to hear any noise, no matter how quiet. Your body temp rises and you start to feel sick to your stomach.

There are migrane medicines you can take that target a certain area in the brain, but vicodin is not one of them. Vicodin helps with pain inflicted to one area...basically like Ibuprofin and Tylenol. Vicodin is much stronger and therefore a prescription drug. (Basically, these are drugs that go where the white cells are gathering to fight the pain. Migrane medication will go to the source of the pain)

And since, during a migrane, the brain sends signals to different parts of your body, inflicting itself with pain and discomfort, rather than treat the spots that feels like they need the attention, you need a medication that will target that one spot that is the cause of the pain.

I hope this helps. :)

Taruia - February 15, 2006 02:53 PM (GMT)
Heh, you beat me to it, I too suffer from Migraines, and well let me say, SO not fun. And Doc has it right about vicodin not working. :D

Taru

Lily - February 15, 2006 03:59 PM (GMT)
Hm...I don't have much to say about this one, actually. This episode felt like it hasn't made its point yet or something, like they were just showing us a bunch of stuff and saying "hold that thought for now." :huh: Sorry, It doesn't make a whole lot of sense when I try to explain, but somehow I think I'm mentally waiting for the other shoe to drop in the next couple of episodes.

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I might be alone but I thought House had was really compassionate toward the Burns guy- empathy with the pain. He was gentle in the 'woken up' scene and it was a nicely mirrored scene.


I noticed too. You're right, he was gentle. He seems to be that way with select patients (ones that come to mind are the nun and the bullemic). But it always seems "right," somehow.

Have to think about this one a little more. Maybe I'll get a sudden rush of understanding. :)

Best line in the whole episode: "What, you're gonna wait till he bends over and make a farting noise?"

Close second:

Foreman: Could pain meds do this?

House: I wish.

rtlemurs - February 15, 2006 04:04 PM (GMT)
Good episode. Not my favorite but still on par.

Good Wilson this time. Loved him tell House he needs another hobby and the glass of water/being noisy was just too funny!

I loved House crawling under the table and sleeping on the floor. That just seemed so normal to me (What I would do) and I found it interesting that he slept on the floor on his right side. That had to kiil his leg. I wondered if it was the old gating mechanism thing in that the migraine was bad enough that his leg didn't come close or visa versa.

Loved the shower scene. "Sssshhhh" :lol:

I was glad Cameron was pissed too. It may just make it obvious to her that she has no place in House's life if she can't handle that.

And finally, it seemed to me House was very uncomfortable about the call girl. Did anyone else get that impression?

Lily - February 15, 2006 04:53 PM (GMT)
Yeah, definitely. I thought he pulled that off really well, especially since there was no dialogue. When she knocked, he sat there for a second and his expression was perfect. And he didn't even really look at her when he opened the door, which was also a nice touch.

I was a little surprised about that anyway...I mean, sex is a good distraction, but I'm pretty sure he would be uncomfortable with having a stranger come into his home and touch him. I think he had to convince himself for a minute that it was worth it and he was, in fact, going to do this.

Then again, he ended up enjoying that "masseuse" Wilson got him that time, so maybe it doesn't bother him that much after all. :) He jerked away from her at first too, though.

Benj - February 15, 2006 05:10 PM (GMT)
I'm done(ish) with my 'hyperbaric chamber' moment over the Gomez ref and other thoughts have surfaced- House's 'revenge' quip at Cuddy - reflective of his thoughts on Stacy? Nicely unsure but was that his angle with her?

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I was glad Cameron was pissed too. It may just make it obvious to her that she has no place in House's life if she can't handle that.


Couldn't agree more. House is way, way too messed up for any relationship let alone someone with Cameron's pov. I really like the way they have been co-workers with a fun slant in these recent eps rather than crush chemistry. Cameron is more consistant, likeable and I really hope it stays that way.

Thought self-injecting was really well handled too- Hugh made that look like he does it every day, total doctor feel. He puts it in to get these things right and it adds to the all round awesomeness.

rtlemurs - February 15, 2006 05:56 PM (GMT)
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I mean, sex is a good distraction, but I'm pretty sure he would be uncomfortable with having a stranger come into his home and touch him. I think he had to convince himself for a minute that it was worth it and he was, in fact, going to do this.


That may be. I have always felt that he never hurts people just to hurt people he has a reason for doing it other than his own entertainment. Maybe he had to work himself up to doing something that would be that degrading to this girl, kind of going against his creed so to speak.

That could be part of why he didn't want her to talk. If she didn't talk he could objectify (is that the word?) her and therefore treat her as a sex object instead of a person. (refer to the line from 'Silence of the Lambs' about making the kidnapper view his captive as a person would make it harder for him to cut her up.)

I also think the hooker thing may have to do with self image. Not really the physical scars (Which may play into it slightly) but mentally. Him sitting there thinking "I am reduced to this, having to pay for sex." and it's unpleasant as hell for him. He does view himself as kind of a rock star and here he is paying for sex. That's a blow to the ego!

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House's 'revenge' quip at Cuddy - reflective of his thoughts on Stacy? Nicely unsure but was that his angle with her?


Hmmm, interesting thought there Benj. I'll have to think on that a bit. But off the cuff though I don't think so.

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Cameron is more consistant, likeable and I really hope it stays that way.


Amen to that! It will be so nice when they finally settle on her character. Although I have a feeling her character is all over the board because that's the way she is. Always trying to please everyone and trying not to hurt anyone's feelings. You can't be like that and be consistent in your behavior because it will depend on who you're around.

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He puts it in to get these things right and it adds to the all round awesomeness.


Can I get another AMEN! I remember reading or hearing somewhere that one of the other actors, I think it was Jesse or Jennifer, possibly Lisa, said that the work ethic starts from the top down. If the lead in a production doesn't bother to work at it or prepare the rest follow. Hugh works hard at getting things right and that has filtered down to everyone else. He keeps the standard high and that makes ieveryone else strive for that as well and that is what makes it a great show. (I'll have to go find where it was and post it. As I recall it was a great article.)

And one last thought from the preview for next week. It's spoilerish if you haven't seen the preview so look away if you don't want to know...


What is House doing in Cuddy's office, at night, in the dark, with his pants off? :huh: :blink: :P

I don't really want to know the answer, I have kind of an idea but I'd rather it be a suprise. It was still kind of shocking though. I'm sure they have screencaps of that floating around already. Nice tighty whiteys!

I'm a bad girl, I'll go sit in the corner now. :D

Magdala - February 15, 2006 10:15 PM (GMT)
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That could be part of why he didn't want her to talk. If she didn't talk he could objectify (is that the word?) her and therefore treat her as a sex object instead of a person... rtulmurs


I think the reason he does not want her to talk is that maybe if she is silent and he shuts his eyes he can imagine he is with Stacy again. I think this is more than sex. I think this is House acting out his grief and loss.

Mind you of course I am only guessing because I have not seen the episode.

Jaxgirl - February 15, 2006 11:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Magdala @ Feb 15 2006, 05:15 PM)
I think the reason he does not want her to talk is that maybe if she is silent and he shuts his eyes he can imagine he is with Stacy again. I think this is more than sex. I think this is House acting out his grief and loss.

That was my thought exactly. The hooker was a brunette...just like Stacy. Basically, House spent the whole episode trying to distract himself from thinking about Stacy (i.e. Weber's migrane study, his patient). Wilson kept telling him that he needed a hobby (that didn't include stalking :lol: ). But none of those distractions worked, so he probably gave into his thoughts. If he could not be with Stacy, at least he could pretend to be with her via the hooker.

Ukfan20 - February 16, 2006 12:36 AM (GMT)
Hi i am new on this board but i absoutley love house

Awwww poor house he is heart broken that he pushed stacy an away in an sense she is the one for him but cant have her. :(

Oh i am sorry but the whole cameron/house thing annoys i hate it. :angry: :angry:

But love wilson/house and there friendship bless :lol:

Also quick question is stacy gone for good because i think she quite important to house for us to see to never see her an again

flannelsaurus - February 16, 2006 02:33 AM (GMT)
I thought it *was* Stacy. The hair was kinda similar from behind. I wasn't shocked by the concept of House seeing/using a hooker, as he has joked about it quite often. (e.g., in Acceptance, re: not kissing means no sex: "Tell that to all the hookers who won't kiss me on the mouth.")

I guess that would make those references non-jokes, as they may be true. :)

This episode bugged me. It was so scattered. I agree that it felt like a bunch of set pieces and now we're supposed to 'hold that thought.'

And Cuddy was a doormat. She didn't even semi-retaliate by preparing her intro for Dr. Weber. If she had been articulate, she wouldn't have seemed so foolish, thus denying House a small part of his fun.

Loved House speaking Hindi. I cracked up when I intially saw the journal.

Did anyone else think the crash was very poorly done? The 'patient set-ups' are usually way more plausible. That bugged me too.

Sorry this post is so disjointed. Or maybe I'm not, as the episode was disjointed too. :-p

sasmom - February 16, 2006 05:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Magdala @ Feb 15 2006, 05:15 PM)
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That could be part of why he didn't want her to talk. If she didn't talk he could objectify (is that the word?) her and therefore treat her as a sex object instead of a person... rtulmurs


I think the reason he does not want her to talk is that maybe if she is silent and he shuts his eyes he can imagine he is with Stacy again. I think this is more than sex. I think this is House acting out his grief and loss.

Mind you of course I am only guessing because I have not seen the episode.

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I think the reason he does not want her to talk is that maybe if she is silent and he shuts his eyes he can imagine he is with Stacy again. I think this is more than sex. I think this is House acting out his grief and loss.


I used that same term--grief and loss--to describe what House is going through in that last scene...also what he was ruminating about in his office before Cuddy came in and out on his balcony. I think you're right that he is acting out the grief. That whole scene in his home sets that up. He is sitting on his sofa, drink in hand, looking incredibly alone, staringinto space. Door knocks and he drinks the whiskey and with a lot of trepidation goes for the door. His delivery of the his first line to her is completely heartbreaking. His voice is all raspy and barely above a whisper. This is the most difficult thing in the world for him to do. But he needs the distraction. maybe it's the only way he'll sleep. It's better than his other self-destructive distrative behaviors.

house_is_god - February 16, 2006 05:07 AM (GMT)
I felt like somthing was missing this episode. It didnt seem the same as all the others. Did anyone else feel like this? Perhaps its because Stacey left and im so obbsessed with her. haha

Ukfan20 - February 16, 2006 09:15 AM (GMT)
I think stacy should come back house needs her he loves her bless. :(

Okay i am in the minority here but he does love her :ph43r:

Also i am hoping if does have an nervous breakdown i hope it not saint cameron to save the day :angry:

Benj - February 16, 2006 11:41 AM (GMT)
Cuddy was consistent in her attitude to House- the only times she gets really pissed off with him are when his actions/behaviour are likely to have an adverse effect on a patient or the smooth running if the hospital. She has form for not being a moral grandstander- Detox (she encouraged House to come off his meds) and The Date (she didn’t do a ‘OMG you’re dating your subordinate’ number. If she’d kicked off about the acid she would have been within her rights but out of character for me. There are parallels with the way House dealt with Cameron’s crystal meth downtime – unless it became clear it was interfering with her job then he didn’t challenge her.

Also she seems to have switched hats with Wilson for this round of addressing House’s funk. Cuddy had the ‘good cop’ hat while Wilson was doing the yelling. I don’t think it’s quite as premeditated, because Wilson seems really stressed, but it played that way. Also impressed that for once we saw Cuddy expressing concern for House, instead of Cameron, and I loved the way she didn’t push it too far.

Also good that the Ducks were not all over House about his self-induced migraine hell – the scene with House under the table is so brilliantly worked. Love the quiet calm, really noticeable with Foreman – his voice is so gentle and the whole scene is a great mellow counterpoint to the House/Wilson/cutlery debate.

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Also i am hoping if does have an nervous breakdown i hope it not saint cameron to save the day 


Wilson is clearly frayed and I’d hazard that he is dealing with more than just House’s trip- get the feeling that he is going to snap too at some point. Will be fascinating because Wilson not being at the top of his game will add even more to the mix. I totally agree that if Cameron steps in it will cheese me off- this is a great op for some wonderful House/Wilson stuff and I do not want to see her doing her ‘dog in the manger’ bit. She’s had tons of time and Wilson (infinitely more interesting for me) needs far more.

The hooker struck me as House needing to erase the Stacy memory. Having sex with someone else to put another sexual experience between that time and the present. House and his ‘functioning’ existence seemed to centre on filling in his needs and sex is another on the list. I think he probably does use hookers whenever he feels that way out but the Stacy sex reminded him that it can be something else. Stacy pushed him back to feeling things he’d managed to blank out with pain meds and ‘functioning and this ep seemed all about his getting back to that place. To that end, sex with a hooker is part of returning to that life and functioning on the minimum.

Kaplow excels at writing great dark, though humorous, eps and whoever did the direction/edits (don’t know the right terms) did a great job.

RealRazumihin - February 16, 2006 02:09 PM (GMT)
I agree with the other migraine sufferers - he had that dead accurate. I was feelin' it. Not literally, thank God.

If House slept on the bad leg, it could have been that gating-pain idea, or just that when you have a migraine, you don't care about anything anymore (at least that's how it was w/ me).

The one thing Cameron did that cracked me up (it was so typically Cameron) was when they found House under the table, and he said "lower" and she whispered "Do you want a pillow?"

It was like she was a flight attendant or something. hehe

Although it also made me chuckle that she was the one who went looking for House (who turned out to be on acid). I can picture that duckling conversation . . .

Chase: Where's House? We need him to look at these results.
Forman: Said he was taking a shower, but he's not back yet.
Cameron: House? Shower? I'll be right back.

Wilson was priceless. And I love how astonished everyone gets when House speaks/reads a foreign language.

Seemed like an awful big explosion for an ATV. But I've never seen an ATV explosion (again, thank God), so maybe it was accurate.

What were all those sewer-size pipes doing in the middle of the woods? Do the woods need plumbing?

Ukfan20 - February 16, 2006 02:22 PM (GMT)
Quick question is house falling to pieces because he pushed the woman he truly loves an way or is there other reason to because i havent seen all the espisodes so i dont know :unsure:

Because it sounds to me like house cant handle being an around stacy because he loves her and knows it wont work unless something changes and he is not capable of changing. So he deals with it get over her but then when he sees her again and she leaves he falls to pieces wilson was right he cant be within 50 metres of her because in the end he falls to pieces. :unsure:

Lily - February 16, 2006 03:25 PM (GMT)
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I agree with the other migraine sufferers - he had that dead accurate. I was feelin' it. Not literally, thank God.


:( I watched it again yesterday afternoon and it actually gave me one. I was in bed all afternoon. The power of suggestion really sucks. Dumb episode. -_-

Benj - February 17, 2006 07:44 PM (GMT)
I'm wondering if House got his trip tab from the people who built his place. Princeton seems to be The Land Where Buildings Are Not Fixed Constructs. Any UK fans (small in numbers) who grew up watching kids tv in the Eighties (tiny numbers now) probably see the 'Mr Benn' parallels in this ep -

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The Drug-Addled Theory

You were all wondering when I'd get to this one, weren't you. Yes, in common with The Magic Roundabout, the Teletubbies and loads of other shows, Mr Benn's remarkable appeal to people who are off their heads has led some to believe that the show is explicable entirely by chemical means. A fellow Benn-ite, Simon Joiner, writes:-

Here you have a somewhat bizarre and reclusive character living in a small semi detached house. The only time he appears to venture out is to visit the "Shop" where he meets with a strange man wearing a Fez (suggesting some sort of Moroccan connection). Here is the pivotal point....they exchange words and the "shopkeeper" then takes Mr Benn off to show him the "merchandise". Now, suppose this was a thinly disguised cover for the handover of ACID. It makes sense from here on, doesn't it? Mr Benn then takes the clothing into the changing room (or should that be the "chill-out" room?), the clothing has the tab of ACID in the pocket to avoid either of the participants being "nicked" in the hand over process. Mr Benn then "DROPS THE TAB" and heads off into a bizarre hallucination. He stays in the "Chill-out" room untill he gets to the happy stage of his comedown and then leaves with a smile on his face and feeling better for the experience. He returns to his house to sleep off the after-effects.

Is it mere coincidence, then, that anyone wishing to trip out in an enclosed space such as a changing cubicle would probably be at high risk of doing themselves actual physical injury, but that injuries could be minimised by use of tough protective headwear... such as a bowler hat? Think about it (but not for too long).


Quote from - 'Mr Benn- What Was That All About?"




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