Well it's funny how you think you've got the character pegged down, and he goes and does something unexpected.

I kind of disagree with Wilson. I think he really did let her go because he knew it would end badly. Maybe because of what Wilson said, that he's too scared to change himself, but I think he still sent Stacy away because he does care about her and doesn't want to wreck things for the both of them again.

Haha, makes me happpy, i SO told my friend that whole 'sleeping together' thing was going to happen, and she didn't believe me.
Wilson was very amusing/intense/insightful this episode... and House...did pretty much as I expected him to. I figured it'd be him to break it off with Stacey. What I didn't expect was why. I honestly think he did do it because he knew it wasn't good for either of them, like he said, they'd be happy for a few weeks, months maybe, but he'd start ignoring her.
That's just the way he is. He *can't* change, because it would take away from the way he is.
Besides, the show'd suck if he did change.

I have to say that all the Wilson in this ep was wonderful! I think he was a little skitso, but it's ok! I LOVED the scene with Wilson rolling a joint! That was great! Next week looks...wow.

Taru

I think that House was affected by Mark's crawling up the stairs to talk to him, it showed that, just as he had said, Mark was willing to do anything.

As well, House really isn't capable (at least thus far in the show) of an extreme change, but rather capable of an unexpected decision (which is seen a lot, actually, like in Role Model where he ordered the second HIV test, a possible direct cause from talking to the patient). I think he wants to do what is best for himself, but at the same time cares enough about Stacey to know that he can't possibly make her happy. Instead, as much as it hurts him, he's got to let her be happy in place of his (broken) happiness. It's just who he is, a snarky and cynical genius with a morality. He won't follow the rules if it means someone is going to die, get hurt, etc. He'll make generalizations.

With Stacey, he's at a moral crossroads. Mark's performance in this episode was very good...just the way it came off.

"I think I'm losing her..."

That line alone, House knowing all along what's going on, probably didn't do much. When Mark crawled up the stairs to prevent him from leaving, it showed House that Mark was more willing, the truth of the relationship. I think that as much of an ass that House may be, he realizes that Mark is in the same situation that he was in.

If he took Stacey from Mark, which crushed him (as was said), would he not be just like Mark, a decision of Stacey's that he was so crushed by?

I think the hypocricy of the situation did him in.

I liked the interesting time holes being filled in. It confirms that House was in fact known by Cuddy before the incident. Cuddy would not be so quick to insult him before she even knew him, after all. That fills in a gap. This was, 5 years ago? Okay, so we have reasonable time. This season is at least 6 months after Chase's dad came, which was early in S1, before that cannot be determined as far as time goes.

So we have a rough timelime (this is very rough):

House is at least known by the hospital, most likely a doctor or knows Cuddy in some way; relationship with Cuddy (would explain the flirting, or that just might be House being House). Infarction- 5 years ago

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Stacey leaves - 6 months after the infarction. House is crushed, Wilson joins the Average White Band and picks up the pieces. (did this happen? I'm quite sure I heard this...)

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S1 begins, Chase's dad stops by and tells House of the news.

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Chase's dad dies somewhere through S2. - 3 months after the prior event.

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Here we are. - 6 months after the last event, somewhere.

So, not to concrete, but it's a relative timeline.

Sorry to make this useless post, just thought I'd speak what I thought.

I think at the end, Stacy knew any type of relationship with House was doomed to fail. Both have been on this ride once before and there was no reason why it was going to be different the second time around. And I think Stacy knew this as well. There was more of a fight between her and her conscience/feelings on if she should leave her husband or not than there was on her trying to convince House not to give up on them as a couple. She didn't try to convince, beg or plead with him otherwise because deep down she knew things weren't going to end happy.

The fact that House was the one to break thing off was the surprising factor in all this. Stacy is the one person House will always truly love. He spent a good portion chasing her around, meddling in her marriage proves that point. Like Goofyman stated, his argument with Mark effected him. The very fact that Mark risked months of rehilbiltation to confront House in any hope to keep Stacy shows that Mark would be willing to do anything for love. And in House's old ways, he just can't do that. He let Stacy go to keep him from breaking her heart. At least with Mark, there was a better chance she would be happy.

Also. My favoritest scene EVAR?

:lol:

This really was an ace episode all the way around. There've been a few this season that were kind of meh but this one hit all the right notes: snark, angst, comedy and not too much or too little of any of those.

Also, Wilson WAS a bit weird this episode. Not to mention hypocritical, getting upset because House was dithering around with a married woman when we KNOW what kind of crap he gets up to with the nurses. Might be a case of the "the lady doth protest too much" perhaps?

Maybe House is "stupid" for letting her go, but I think it just illustrates the point that in the end maybe House cares more about Stacy than Wilson does, or even than Wilson does for his own wives (but we all know Wilson and House are in twoo wuv, right? ;))

Maybe Wilson exhibits all this caring behavior, but I think in the end, House is more willing to make a sacrifice. It's kind of a funny (as in weird) dichotomy. Wilson cares more. House loves more. The two are not the same, in my opinion. You can take all sorts of woobyish interest in somebody without really loving them.

I think there's truth to what everyone has sasid so far about Mark affecting House's decision but I think there's a big chunk of truth in what Wilson said.

I don't think what Wilson said was the direct reasoning but House won't change and he knows that. Is it because he doesn't want to or knows that deep down if he really did change it would change the essence of who he is and he knows he could never do that?

I should take this analysis down to the "On the Character of House" Thread but I'll leave a little here.

Or is it because he has tried, maybe with Stacy the first time around, and just can't get there? That this is who he is and it cannot be changed. Very interesting ending and lots to think about.

Maybe he has found that since the infarction he can be who he is and people are more accepting, ie. he can keep his job, so he doesn't want to go back to playing pretend anymore. Not that he wasn't always the way he was but I get the feeling he may have had a hard time getting and keeping a job so possibly toned it down a bit so that he could work.

After the infarction, "I'm merely pathetic and look at the crap I can get away with", he lets it fly and enjoys it, doesn't want to be reined in anymore. Knows that this is who he is and that what he told Stacy is the truth. Anyhoo...

Now on with the rest of the ep.

Loved the "I love you" scene with Cameron. LMAO!!! She so bit on that hook! Here fishy, fishy,fishy!!! :lol: :lol: And the whole thing with the letter. Classic House! Cameron's buttons are so easy to push!

And Cuddy was full on too! That part where House wants to call off the surgery. "... with those dreamy eyes..." LOL!!! :lol: Do you think that in her own strange way she was hinting to House that Stacy's ready, grab her now?

Lots of Wilson this episode!!! And he was a little skitzo, but I find that very interesting. I think he's torn between House maybe being happy but at what cost. And it's interesting that he's the one bent about the infidelity and Stacy being married.

And I watched that scene twice and didn't see House take the joint! He's good!

Loved the scene with the watch in the hall too! "Hoo-hoo?" LOL!

Just so much good stuff this ep. More House singing! I have been avoiding the spoilers and the bedroom scene was soooo worth it!! Some of you probably already knew about it but I'm glad I didn't. I was my WHOA! moment of the season. Ranks right up there with the proxy decision last season.

The prescription for the "Heart Condition", that was so cute!

And Stacy's line "I remember him being fun."

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, whoever came up with the idea for the "Stacy arc", you are brilliant! It was all well written and performed and raised almost as many questions as it answered. One of the many, many reasons I love this show!!

Enough random babbling from me!

Goofyman, I would hardly call your post useless. ;) Good point on the timeline thing. We'll have to check that out.

It's just like Sam said. You think you have someone figured out, and then they go and do something totally unexpected. My jaw hit the floor when Housed broke it off with Stacy. I thought out the senareo (sp?) in my head as a possibility, but I never seriously thought the story would go that way. Maybe I just didn't want to think it would end that way because i wanted so much for Greg to be happy. Maybe he's one of those people who aren't capable of being happy. I think House knew it wouldn't last. Love is all powerful and consuming. It will make you do all kinds of stuff you wouldn't normally do. We all know that from one experience or another. They were "X's" for a reason and House knew that they would be over the novelity of the new or should I say 'rekindled' relationship before Mark would be over losing her. I don't really think Mark's actions in the stairwell that swayed Greg's decision, but they did make him evaulate, maybe for the first time, just what was going on. I don't think he was running away like Wilson said he was. Stacy knew it was for the best. You could tell by the way she didn't fight for it. Good bye Stacy.

OMG! Loved the bed room scene! :P We'll ladies, we all wanted to know what it looked like, and now we do! Like we say in Texas... Yee Ha! That was nice!

I thought it was cute that he opened Cameron's AIDS test result before she could. I also enjoyed his interaction witht the little girl.

Enough for now. Great show!

Pillpopdoc

Wilson rocked and rolled (always with the literal :) ) - this ep!

Loved his 'moral' trip - makes him so wonderfully screwed up. I can see how he can be botih in the 'cheating is bad' and 'I cheat' places at once. If he hasn't loved his wives, whilst that doesn't make it anywhere near right, it makes it less guilty.

He loves House though, (I'm not doing the slash angle) he's blindsided. No matter how much he knows that House is not a saint and has veil of misery etc- he couldn't help being all protective when he spoke to Stacy. Also the the feeling there was some level of projection 'his someone who made him feel funny' maybe? If he didn't make a sacrifice or the other person didn't- then maybe that's why he felt it so keenly. There should be a law that says Wilson must have this much time in each ep - he's so interesting. Loved the final scene, House slumped on the rooftop (beats even the 'kit off' scene in the hot stakes).

I liked Stacy and I am now glad they kept her around - it's given a different view on House but ultimatley left him in the same place- all good.

The Mark scene was mental and I love this show for not pulling punches with a whacked out scene- 'Cripple Wrestling On The Stairs' -the new 'Skating With Celebrities'? That's compelling television and I could see Wilson as the compere.

Funny was great too - loved 'Doc Spliff' in his matching tie set and pocket protector- too good. Cameron 'I love you' was fabulous too.

Huh.

Well...I'm kind of glad that's over, actually. Sela Ward did a good job, but I don't think anyone could have completely lived up to the role of The Woman Who Mesmerized House...I don't think I quite bought it, even up till now.

I did like this episode though. :P The scene where he swabs Cameron was hilarious. And "Your reign of terror is over..." I loved the look on Foreman's face. I'm happy to have him back to normal. :) House's singing was pretty funny too.

I liked both Wilson and Cuddy this time around, too...Wilson's flat incredulity and Cuddy's exasperatedness with the whole situation kind of mirrored my feelings, actually. And it was nice to see Cuddy at all; we haven't had much of her lately.

I was disappointed when he told her to leave him. Not because I thought she should have stayed, but because I think it detracted from his charater. Of course, she can never stay and make him happy, that's never going to happen for him. But I think it was a mistake to have him admit it. The whole scene was a little awkward.

I liked what Wilson said at the end a lot, though...the "you sent her away for yourself, not for her." If that's true, if they pursue this from that angle instead of the "oh, isn't it wonderful, House is growing" angle, I think the situation could still be saved...the problem would be that in that case, Stacy is not the root of his Problem. It's something deeper. But after we actually see Stacy onscreen and see some of her faults so that she's not perfect anymore, I think I could believe that.

"You don't like yourself, but you admire yourself." Great line.

"People who are different aren't better than everyone else. They're just miserable." (Is that right? Someone was yelling in the hall during that scene and I couldn't hear. :angry: ) I'm pretty sure he's wrong, though. People who are different like House is different are better than everyone else...and miserable. The catch of the show is that you can't have one without the other.

And last but not least..."You want to tell the rest of the class how that feels?" :huh: Good grief. What did Chase do lately to deserve that?

Much good stuff already mentioned...

VERY nice to see so much Wilson! but I found myself jarred out of being deep into the show when he started going on about infidelity... schizo/out of character, but what was even weirder (to me) was that HOUSE DIDN'T CALL HIM ON IT... :unsure:

Cameron, bedroom scene (no shower scene?), House early and *cheerful* and Wilson "on it"... :D Cuddy's impression of Stacy... :D

Sigh... time to go home sick and re-watch... :)

This whole episode was schizo! The "everybody lies" theme came full circle here. House - at the top of the list - the biggest lie of all...to himself. He's only got the "one thing" and even though he may want more, he's willing to tell himself that that one thing is and must be enough, and thus he's willing to sacrifice potential: potential change, potential happiness, potential healing, *insert appropriate noun here*, etc.
Wilson - a very close second - such a "girl" in this episode (no offense), but come on - he was acting like a junior higher so intent on gathering, collating, and disseminating "WIldon" (Wilson's wisdom), running from player to player acting as self-appointed go-between; almost as if, and I believe this was already mentioned in a number of posts, that by his intensive, over-the-top interest and machinations, he was trying to somehow cloak his own failings, deny his own need for relational healing, and, dare I say?, frustrate potential for change in his own life. Sure, I think there was some 'caring' mixed in there too, but he seemed like a dog with a bone in this one - the intent wasn't so much as to heal others as to quell something - some demon - in himself. Enjoy that mixed metaphor. ;)
Cameron - :blink: Was willing to believe her own lie that 99.9% was good enough. This subplot *was* very interesting in that House was very interested in the outcome. He was the dog with the bone here.
Mark - lying to himself to the extent that he's willing to entertain the notion that he's the problem and not Stacy, even to the point of *gulp* directly confronting...House? Might as well ask a tree.
This episode captured the sometimes-twisted interconnections and self-serving nature of relationships. Motivations. What are our personal motivations for being in relationship? How aptly we serve ourselves when, on the surface, it seems we are serving others? If no one else knows the lies with which we operate, then whom are we hurting? Them? Us? Both? Some great themes in this one.

I'll stop rambling now.

So many good and interesting ideas here. Some things from previous posts that stuck out to me:

Goofyman: House is crushed, Wilson joins the Average White Band and picks up the pieces. (did this happen? I'm quite sure I heard this...) *priceless*

Lily: And last but not least..."You want to tell the rest of the class how that feels?" Good grief. What did Chase do lately to deserve that? *my thoughts too* ouch.

-Pradon

Sorry if I shouldn't post this here. But does anyone know the <i>full</i> Wilson quote? I know the part about being miserable doesn't make you better...but I need first part. Any help would be great! Thanks!!
Molly
P.S. Episode was great!! :D

W: "You're an idiot. You don't think she'd be better off without you."

H: "Right, I sent her off on a whim."

W: "You have no idea why you sent her off."

H: "Don't do this!"

W: "This was no great sacrifice. You sent her away because you've got to be miserable."

H: "That kind of psycho crap help get your patients through the long nights. Or is it just for you? Tough love make you feel good, helping people feel their pain."

W: "You don't like yourself. But you do admire yourself. It's all you've got so you cling to it. You're so afraid if you change, you'll lose what makes you special. Being miserable doesn't make you better than anybody else House, it just makes you miserable."

I think what Wilson said was, "Being miserable doesn't make you better than everyone else; it just makes you miserable."

At least that should be pretty close to what he said.

Big-time depression. House = nude, my VCR = not running.

Dammit. Why????

They better get those DVDs out quick this time.

I thought the "share with the class" thing was harsh too. Perhaps motivated by Stacy-related-stress? Though immersing himself in the case seemed to counter some of that.

Carp-impression Cameron was great. Before she can even go, "Wait, what?" he's already got the swab finished. ehehehe.

I think House was still in character. Remember that moment in the hallway where Mark begs, "Can't you be a regular human being for one minute???" and House responds, in effect, "No."

Maybe (as I think others have been saying) Wilson's "you're an idiot! be with her! wait, no! you're breaking up a marriage! wait, no-be with her!" occilation is anger at himself for not being able to sort out his life, either. People frequently try to fix in others what they aren't willing to fix in themselves (House, for one). And how often do people give perfectly sound advice that they aren't willing to take themselves?

Good episode. Off to smack myself upside the head for not recording it.

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Ha, had to share this lil piece of summary from the Fox site:

Feels like they missed a step in there somewhere.

Could just be my English major talking.

Oh, did he say being miserable only makes you miserable? Never mind then. I guess that's true. :)

:P That is funny. It sounds a little like something House might say.

Oh I don't think there's any question about that at all. It's obvious he was screwed up royally before Stacy ever got to him. I think it's just a situation of his problems growing deeper roots over time, he's always been screwed up, he just can't pretend he isn't anymore, which is why he sent Stacy away.

Watched again - Wilson is on something and it certainly isn't dope- that was the most angsty, uptight spliff roll I think I've ever seen. :D

Was it just me? Did anyone else laugh when Mark tried to make his way up the stairs to House? :lol: :P :D




CAS <<Gave a car full of Nuns the finger tonight for driving too slow.

After rewatching for the third time I am still intrigued by the "Don't do this" line from House. (See my earlier post on that little rooftop confrontation for context.)

It just seemed to be more than just a "I know where this is going, I've heard if from you before"

Does House feel that Wilson's going to hit on a nerve he doesn't want to have hit on?

Or is it because he knows where Wilson is going and knows he will say things that will hurt Wilson and he doesn't want to do that right now because he knows he's going to need him around?

Or what?

I'm probably just picking it apart too much but it seems to be an interesting choice of words.

Well, it just means that he's not the literary archetype I thought he was. Which, as I said before, is probably a good thing now that Stacy's no longer bigger-than-life. It wouldn't have worked anymore. I guess it's the English buff coming out in me that I'm slightly disappointed. :rolleyes: I have a feeling I'll get over it.

Next time looks good. Has anyone noticed that all House's cases seem to be his most baffling case ever? :)

I have. We should develop a formula, whereby TWC stands for This Week's Case, and NWC stands for next week's case, which is more baffling than this weeks, and thus:

The bafflingness of NWC > TWC

AND

NWC Bafflingness = TWC Bafflingness x 1.5

Or some such nonsense. I was an English major. Can you tell?

They obviously recycle the announcer. What cracked me up was when they said "his most difficult case yet" as they announced a replay of an episode from *last season*. I was like, "It's not very difficult if he already solved it, now is it?"

I loved Cuddy's impression of Stacy. :-)

:lol: And the look on House's face during it was priceless! Anyone got a screencap of that?

I CANNOT WAIT to read the transcript of this ep! Please, transcript Gods... I love you....

I read thru this thread carefully before deciding to post this piece of drivel that's running thru my head. Kindly bear with me: Seventeen-or-so years ago my son fathered a child out of wedlock. He approached the child's mother and offered to support that child until it reached the age of eighteen. The mother, however, chose to not allow my son to have any contact with his child. Being a stubborn creature, my son overturned heaven and earth in the effort to gain the right to that contact. He submitted his DNA in a process that was very new at that time, and after a passage of YEARS ... I forget how many ... confronted the mother with the proof that he was indeed the child's father. She rebuffed him, but legally she was obligated to allow him visitation. Immediately after that, with the case settled in his favor, my son withdrew all claims on the boy and simply took himself out of their lives. It has been so ever since. The boy has no idea who his real father is, and lives happily with a caring stepfather, his mother, and a couple of siblings. I always thought this was a wierd arrangement, but it was none of my business, so I left it alone.
When "Need to Know" aired, House's decision to set Stacy free after having moved heaven and earth to have her acquiesce to his wishes, took me back seventeen years or so. Was it really that important to House to have final control of the situation to the point of scattering more and more human "pieces" to the wind for others to pick up? He's a dysfunctional animal, so I guess it was. I wonder what House actually thinks of his performance down deep in his heart!? ... Just something I've been thinking about ... Thanks. Bets;)

I don't think so, only because he had made his decision to "set her free" before he even knew what her final decision was.

It is an interesting angle though and may still prove to be true. He may have worked it out and planned to make the final decision when he went into her office to see which path she had chosen. But I didn't get that from his facial expressions and general mood. He seemed pretty set on breaking it off regardless of Stacy's decision.

ask and ye shall...


I agree that House has made up his mind about breaking it off before Stacy told him that she had decided to leave Mark. But I don't think that he had planned to do that from the beginning as some have speculated.

House's exquisitely subtle and fleeting facial reactions showed his journey from happy reunited lover (first rooftop scene) to disappointment (at Stacy's refusal to tell Mark about her and House) to shamed reluctance ("cripple fight") to misplaced romantic admiration (liver surgery observation scene). House "moved heaven and earth" to get his way because it is his wont in all such matters important to him. He does everything he can to get the outcome he wants when it the stakes are high enough, regardless of the effects to him or those around him (e.g., that whole Vogler mess, Chase's post-paternal death breakdown, the contempt of court/court order violations, etc.).

That's an interesting synopsis Bets- I'm still unsure that Wilson was right. Not about House being in love with his own misery, there is mileage in that take but the Stacy making House happy part I'm not so convinced. House has been through the mill once and wasn't prepared to expose himself to the potential for it happen again. I think he has everything geared to 'functioning' and isn't prepared to risk anything that may destabilise an exisitence he can deal with and control.

I'm not a big believer in the idea that to change for love works out- being tolerant is one thing but you are who you are. 'House being House' is who he is and I think that his speech to Stacy hit on an intersting issue. I think the 'infaction/Stacy's decision' is a smoke screen to a degree. In the time Stacy has been around it only played a part in Honeymoon and probably because of the proximity. Apart from them acknowledging in Hunting that they caused each other grief- it didn't seem a major factor.

However Stacy's refusal to accept (if taken at face value) that House had been upset by her leaving would speak volumes. If she didn't understand that he was gutted and hadn't got over it in five years then it raises a lot of questions. She said she didn't want him to change but there must be some degree to which his attitude casued her to leave and her inability to cope with it. The other thing which struck me was that at no point did she make any mentions of his Vicodin intake apart from to tell Chase not to dwell on it in The Mistake. She must have been aware, if only through the vine of working in the hospital, that it was a 'problem'.

I love that while she has gone and a line will be drawn underneath the arc we still don't really know much more.

runawayhouse - you are a legend for posting that screen cap :) I was laughing so hard the first time through I didn't pick up on that bashfully cute smile- it's awesome.

awesome point you made, Benj!

Stacy's ability to empathize seems as limited as her ability to emote. I think a lot of us blamed excessive botox for the bland facial expressions before but maybe that was the way she was told to play it. Stacy seems to have her head in the sand about the part she's played in House's anguished existence aside from the physical damage to his leg. we've all been witness to his resorting to vicodin to cope with pain other than from his ruined leg.

glad you liked the cap. I was happy to share it. :D

Yes, THANK YOU for the cap!! That is priceless! :lol:

Reading all this leads me to another question. Did House refuse surgery, knowing that it may well kill him, because he already knew he was making Stacy unhappy? That things were already going bad and he wanted a way out that would not make her feel guilty. That he knew her well enough to know that she would stay just because she wouldn't want to leave him out of guilt and pity and that he would be the one feeling guilty for ruining her life.

Somewhat selfish motivations but also self sacrificing to a certain degree. And maybe he loved her enough that he knew she was going to leave eventually, no matter what, and would rather have died than bother with the misery.

This would also seem to fit with the the comment about it being 'romantic' that the most recent PoTW would rather have risky liver surgery than let her husband know she didn't want to have children.

Or is this just afterthought? House trying to justify in his mind why he did what he did and was about to do?

And how does that fit with Wilson's comments about "Having to pick up the pieces"?

The Wilson picking up pieces angle was really interesting too- cheers for the reminder RT. Was he worried about House doing something really stupid? He was pretty panicked when he got to the roof and seemed to calm down momentarily when he saw House before the pills appeared.

The reverse angle on this whole Stacy arc – was House being a player? Did he set out to exact revenge – is it something he’d do? He has motive, beyond the leg decision- she put him in a tight spot twice over, first with Mark and then when she decided to take up Cuddy’s offer. He was hemmed in on all sides- interfering with his job and his functionality? He did mention to Wilson that he was thinking along these lines but I think that was a cover against the fact he was feeling a lot for her. It’s wonderfully ambiguous and I do think it is hasn’t been excluded. I’m not sold that he was going for something as calculating and was more about opportunism rather than exploiting every angle. Not because I didn’t think he is incapable of something as low but more that I do think somewhere House believes in a romantic ideal. Some part of his cynicism relating to love and romantic gestures is because he believes in them (you can’t not believe in God and be angry with him type argument) and that makes his reaction to its manifestations extreme.

Wilson strikes me as further in denial than House on this front. Wilson and House are stranded in the Atlantic Ocean. Both are on the look at for seafaring vessels to rescue them. House is going to wait for the QE2 to sail past while Wilson would grab onto a four foot dinghy loaded with gun toting drug runners because it showed up first and got him out of the water. House will freeze to death in a shorter time but Wilson will have equally short odds once the trigger happy crew have sold off one of his kidney and installed him as Doc Crack in a backstreet in Panama. It’s a crap metaphor but it’s my take on why neither House nor Wilson can get out of their own way to be happy. Wilson having a go at House had some merit in that House doesn’t mind sitting in freezing shark infested waters but that doesn’t mean he should jump a ship headed for Luxembourg because he’s feeling cold. Same as with Cameron, she was a floating gin palace heading to the Caribbean but he knew long term desert islands get samey and after a few days he doesn’t really like heat. He'll still wait for the QE2 and if it shows he'll still insist on looking round. If the gaming tables are too small or they don't have cable in their cabins, he'll let it go for some more sub zero water treading.

nice arguments.

I don't have much to add other than this random medical factoid: if I had to choose a major organ to pointlessly cut away half of, I'd go with liver too. it's the only one that will regenerate. (yada yada only otherwise healthy livers will blah blah)

stacey didnt even care that she was going she didnt even cry stacey is a player..even though im sad she is gone i hope she comes back like i really really do

Sorry maybe i shouldnt be commenting because i havent seen the espisode yet but reading your threads i thought i might add this in

I was thinking the reason maybe stacy didnt realise that house was so sad and hurt when she left was because maybe during that time he was resenting her and that he was so cold and distant towards her that he made her believe that the love they once had turned in to a cold bitter one Were all you see is hatred in there eyes when you are in that situation and the man you love is pushing you out like that i think it hard to believe that may care for the relationship or they may still even love you or care an about you. :unsure:

I like stacy i think she brings out a good side to him :D i know i am in the minority but i hope they bring back a few season down the line but it doesnt sound like they will :(

I mentioned in the another thread that I believe Stacy doesn't change him, she just magnifys him. He seems to be more intense around her and I find that intriguing because House gets intense when there is a puzzle to be solved. So, I believe that tells us he finds her a bit mysterious and (Not knowing much about their earlier relationship) wants to solve that mystery. In the process of doing that he has found he actually has feelings for her.

And since emotions and feelings seem to be something he has problems with maybe on a subconsious level feels she can be a useful tool in helping him figure those out as well. Or did at one point. I think now, as Benj has mentioned, he's just trying to function. Trying to get through the day and solve the puzzle of what his life has become. He has no time to delve into emotions. Maybe that's why he sent her away? I don't know, just thinking out loud.

I think he geniunely still loves her and her being a mystery is an added bonus in some respects for him because he loves to solve an puzzle.

I think he sent her an away because he ultimately knew he might end up hurting her and because he loves her so much he thought it would be best to let her go in the long run.

I think that is definitely a part of it. And I think Wilson did hit on it. He doesn't really know why he sent her away or that there are so many reasons he sent her away, he just settled on the more acceptable one.

I think the puzzle solving is one. Maybe he felt he was close to or has already solved her puzzle and therefore she no longer interests him and yet still feels for her which probably confuses the hell out of him.

But I think he doesn't want to feel and I know that is so obvious but this has pushed him back into the realm of feelings and emotions. If he gets back with her he knows he's going to hurt again. Even if things are peaches and cream for the most part (which he knows they won't be) hurt will come. Arguments will happen, he knows he won't change and that will lead to hurt. His and hers, so it's best not to go there. Yes, maybe he doesn't want to hurt her but he doesn't want to have to deal with his hurt again.

Deep and complex, how can you not love the guy?! :D