Snark of the night (if not the season):

More later...

Okay, call me stupid but I'm still not sure what got House in trouble. :huh:

Was it just because they were looking for an excuse? Kind of a we'd love to get rid of him but don't have the grounds to so we'll use any excuse we can get to make his life miserable and take away his "power".

Loved the gay line! :lol: Some good snark tonight, not that I can recall any of it now but they needed more.

I laughed myself to tears over Wilson's imitation of Chase and House saying "He's not Turkish" or something like that!

And still, what the hell is up with Stacy. I mean we know House is screwed up, we know House isn't over her but I think this episode showed me that he is more willing to be over her and deal with life after if he could just get a straight answer out of her. Which is what I thought at the beginning but last week had me doubting.

But Stacy just seems to want it all but doesn't want to admit it. Not that I hate Stacy or anything, I'm sure it hasn't been easy on her. I completetly agree with House in that she was enjoying last week and if it had continued she would have gone right along with it. And then this week she's all anger until that last scene before he goes before the committee and then she's right back to 'Oh I care for you, blah, blah, blah'

I think House put it out there (don't have the direct quote but) in that he know she is a distraction to him and if they continue to work together he will get into big trouble over it. He can't do his job with her around and she seems to have a problem doing hers when he's around.

And what up with Chase? How do you think he is going to be around House, knowing that House didn't tell him about his father. I mean now that this lawsuit has all blown over and House isn't his boss anymore (at least for a while) how will he be around him? This will be interesting to watch.

As well as how Foreman will handle House because you know House isn't going to cooperate. He'll see it as just another opportunity to stir things up and push Foreman's buttons as well as Cuddy's. And regardles of position or title he'll do what he thinks is right for the patient.

I'm just curious to see if they are going to pursue the issue brought up last week about the renewal of his credentials in three weeks or if they'll just let that drop.

Loved House in the clinic. "If only he hadn't been diagnosed before he applied for medical insurance..." :lol:

I was having trouble following that, too...I think like you said they were just looking for an excuse. I doubt he's made many friends on that committee. It seemed to all happen a little fast, though. We were talking about Chase and then in the last five minutes, "Oh, by the way, House isn't head of the department anymore." I actually thought they might bring in a doctor from the outside to supervise House (I think with Foreman on the job it'll be more awkward-funny than funny-funny) but that might have been too close to what they had already done with Vogler, so maybe it's a good thing they didn't. You know, it's not half as bad as it could be for House. Foreman's not likely to gloat too much, and he is levelheaded and capable.

Chase is an exasperating character, but I did feel sorry for him by the end. I was wondering when they were going to follow up on his father's cancer, and I think they handled it well--not some big dramatic scene, but a phone call that doesn't even last a minute. It was sadder that way. I honestly think House felt a little sorry for him too. HL did a great job during the scene where they talked; he wouldn't look Chase in the eye, as if he was embarrassed for him, and his face and voice stayed neutral even when he was making (feeble) jokes.

And Stacy...Sela Ward does a good job, and it's not even that I dislike the character, but she really needs to just....leave. The "will they-won't they" tension has already been stretched too far, and it's just getting wearisome. She should really, I think, get a grip on herself and find another job.

I loved when Chase spilled the Vicodin all over the table. We haven't seen much of the pills lately. :)

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Just off the top of my head, I believe the committee mentioned his blackmailing of the transplant surgeon and his prior history as reasons for his punishment, but I could be missing something.

Majestic- loved this one and the perspectives were so interesting.

RT- I saw House screwing up because he went too far with Dr Transpants- if he left it at getting the transplant done the guy probably would have cheesed but not taken it at as far as reporting it. Indulging in the extra mile for pure (and it was damn funny) enjoyment got him the slap he’s been working hard to achieve since the Pilot. As for the credential issue – I’m expecting that is going to come up again- or at least the criminal record mention. Like House’s inability to open his pills- that is something, I’m not sure what but it has happened twice so it does have some meaning.

Stacy – she was back to being ‘pissy’ (great word btw) with House for selling her with the rat business and I get that- they were being pretty open and honest on the back of one of his stunts. But I really like the character and I think it works so maybe I’m biased but it’s all fine with me. It will be interesting to see how House handles it but I think the writers have done a great job with it to date. I also think Sela is much more comfortable in the role now and she does Stacy’s ‘vulnerable’ moments really well. On the less than deep side- she has great eyes, very green, very nice- people whine about Botox- they should check out the eyes instead. Cuddy looked extra good too tonight- the girls were on fire. :)

Foreman taking over- he was nasty tonight, understand he wants to get ahead but selling Chase out was low. I really got Chase tonight and JS really sold it- nice continuity too. Love that House didn’t see the implications, with his previous form, of ending up in trouble. The paperclip volleyball was too cool and the ref to Clinton made me grin stupidly (he’s the object of my other big crush). Wilson's face was, as is often the case when House is on his snark, fabulous and equally entertaining. The ‘Shoes + Wilson = Gay’ line was awesome and I really loved this one all round- they screwy timelines really well.

Ok, Ben I like what you said about the pills, but Chase had trouble opening them too.

Just a thought.

Taru

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Well, after watching it, I believe the committee (as Jaxgirl mentioned) bumped House down because of his prior actions (reputation for not visiting patients, bribing, prior misconduct). They said that he had little/no part in the death.

I loved this episode. It was different than most other episodes in that it has already occured (ala Three Stories, but this is real), and the way that the scenes are made -- in blending the past with now and the truth with lies (Vicodin dissapearing, House watching himself walk out of the clinic room, etc.), is very cool.

I think House was just being House-as-usual, and I understand why Chase did what he did. I mean, he should have tried to do more, but given the circumstances, I understand. Honestly, it's one of the first times. Chase has always been on my bad side (with the whole Vogler thing in S1 and now the Cameron situation from last episode), and this was really my first time to really understand him.

All in all, the episode was very good. I loved it. The clinic scenes ("Let's call him 'Buck'.") were very funny, and it was an interesting case all in all.

It's just a great season--one great episode after another!

I think the inability to open various containers is probably just another House character trait. I think it's great--he can autopsy a cat with a broken hand but he can't open an RX bottle!

So much of this episode seemed to be done with a wink and nod to the fans. I liked how playful the writer could be with obvious allusions to critics, fanfic, and boards while still telling a great story across the timeline. I bet this was a tough one to film, however, since the jumping around in time must be taxing on the actors and director.

Also enjoyed the ep.

When Chase went "I had a hangover. I didn't care." I was pissed for a minute 'cause I'd been trying to like the guy, so when the truth about his father came out, I was relieved 'cause it made a lot more sense. Plus I was wondering what had happened to that whole story line.

Great snark, as usual. "Let's call her . . . Fusan." hehehe

It was odd that they made no reference to the "life-threatening illness" so hyped up in the previous ep. Perhaps they are telling us not to worry?

As for next week, give 'em hell, Foreman! (It'll be funnier that way.)

So -- I've had this going in my head for awhile now -- Cameron, Chase, Cameron, Stacy, Cameron and Chase... when's poor Foreman going to get some screentime? Lo and behold, my wish appears to be granted... :)

And that tiny smile on House's face at the end... I can't decide if if was an evil "oh, this is going to be fun" smile, or a proud "my boy's all growed up" smile, or something else entirely....

Really enjoyed learning what a general counsel actually DOES at a hospital...

Interesting that last season House's legal fund came in "under budget" and now he's responsible for 40% of the lawsuits against PPTH...

Very glad they finished up the storyline with Chase's father, and did so very effectively too, I thought... After this, I'm almost ready to forgive Chase for taking advantage of Cameron....

Stellar work, all round... :)

WooHoo, glad you uncloaked!!! :D

So it seems to be a "yeah, they were just looking for an excuse based on past incidents and nothing directly related to the current case". I just wanted to make sure I got that right as I'm sure it will figure in to future episodes.

:lol: cutterdog!! But on this same line I think it was interesting that they brought that up again and in a past tense. Becasue that scene would have happened before the Autopsy (not the cat autopsy in 'Detox'. don't want to confuse me) episode when he couldn't open the Vicks bottle. And as Taruia mentioned Chase had problems opening the bottle too.

I agree with Benj in that this is something they want us to notice. What it is and why I haven't figured out yet but maybe one of our more medical members can shine some light on what it might be.

Yeah, the whole I'm gay thing smacked of a wink to the boards but then again maybe they've been cultivating that all along and wanted us to think that from the beginning. I would still love to know just how much character development, backstory and future paths they have planned already.

I mean I'm sure they have some, they'd have to but David Shore has said on more than one occasion that because of Hugh's understanding of the character and his ability to do what is written that has freed them up to write and explore things they might not have otherwise done. So how much of this has changed and evolved becasue of that? We'll probably never know.

Plus I think they're writing for the long haul now. It's a successful enough show now that they're past that fear of immediate cancelation and I would guess are planting alot of seed now in hopes that it'll run long enough for then to germinate and flower. Then we'll go "Ah, I wondered if they were ever going to explain that" or "Oh , so that's why he did that!"

Another one of the many reasons I adore this show!!

Oh I took it as a full fledged 'oh, this is going to be fun" evil grin!! Shall we take bets on how many of Foreman's and Cuddy's buttons he's going to push in the next few episodes? :lol:

RT, I agree with you about the grin. I think House loves the challenge of outwitting supervisors of all kinds, and despite his obvious displeasure at losing status, especially to a duckling, he's going to try to have great fun with this. He already knows how to push Foreman's buttons, and that grin and sparkling eyes seemed to say, "Bring it on!". Of course, I think Foreman is up to the challenge--he won't beat House, but he'll give him a run for his money. Which might increase House's respect for him (I think House already respects him most among the ducklings).

I wonder if there's a connection between House's reduced (on screen, at least) use of vicodin and the difficulty opening things. Arthritis? Although since Chase couldn't open the bottle properly (!) either indicates it wasn't just House.

And yes, they're clearly more comfortable with a solid hit that isn't going to being cancelled. It shows in the huge improvement in the quality of the scripts this season--because they can predict where the characters are going and how many episodes they have to play with. As good as last season was, it often seemed that the episodes were written to stand alone, whereas this season we see real development in characters and the ability to set aside the formula.

SWAG: some number ending in "-illion"... ;)

Roar this sounds like a great episode! Why couldn't they just go straight on to season 2 in Australia? :( Well, I can't wait to see this episode now! :) So House is taking less Vicodin? I wonder why that is..

Well, he went at least one episode without ever being seen taking Vicodin, I believe, but he is at least being public about it again. He might have been more private in taking it because Stacy has been in more episodes as of late (I believe his Vicodin-less episode, if any, was 2 ago (Daddy's Boy) or TB or Not TB. Or another one I seemed to have missed from before.), and even if she wasn't in a whole lot, it might be their way of showing his subconscious way of trying to look better in her eyes. Or not.

Anyways, I imagine they'll pull a Vogler on Foreman's admin position (revoke it after a few episodes, perhaps not as many as Vogler, which I believe is 5-6, and make Foreman seem really mean (even though he's not, but when you are dealing with Gregory House, what else can you be?)) and then do something where Foreman steps down as the director and House is bumped back up. I'm not sure how they would work that out .to make sense, though.

Wilson's comment at the very end of the episode was classic, perhaps his subtle rebuttal to House's "I've been testing you with various amounts of cash" stunt a few episodes back.

No mention of House's bike, though I'm not surprised. I couldn't find a time where it would be appropriate, especially if he was smiling at the end for whatever reason. I would imagine the bike lets him forget about his problems for a while.

Honestly though, I don't see Foreman throwing a big fit at the end of the next few episodes because of House's actions. I think House respects Foreman (like said previously) more than the other ducklings at least, and he would make things right if he did something or said something out of line (ala when he found out Wilson had been canned; he didn't do anything, but he did say something that showed he cared about the relationship).

So, if House does act out and such, it'll stop before any serious damage occurs.

On a lighter note, who writes on the board now? Does Foreman take over, or does House smack him with a cane (He needs to talk to The Penguin for some tips) and continue that operation? That might be an interesting, but subtle, sticking point.