Okay, was it me, or were the best scenes the ones with House and the rat?

Plus, I think that Stacy has issues that won't go away, and she needs to just suck it up and deal with House like a mature person.

Did I mention the rat? It's kinda cute. House's new pet....

Houses address...not exactly subtle, but funny none the less. Do you think he loves on Cook Street or they just went ahead and kept it Baker? ;)

My favorite part was when House saw the mouse with its head turned and he turned his head too...I howled.

I must say, I'm glad Stacey kicked him to the curb. I hate hate hate her, but he really deserved it. He needs to get over it...

This is also one of the few episodes where I didn't like Cameron. Drugs and the wombat? Down, girl. You don't know if you have aids yet. :huh: And of course House knew. That was pretty funny.

I must say I liked the patient. He seemed like a weird, watered down version of House, without the deductive powers. Well, I guess all that leaves is stubborn and self-destructive.

I also didn't like House in this episode. Have some dignity, man! YOU LOST HER! GET OVER IT! :angry:

All in all, a good episode. Can't wait for new week!

i think he named the rat...steve.

house's new friend to replace wilson.....doubt it.

That was close. :) For a minute there I was afraid House and Stacy might actually get back together, which in my opinion would really ruin House as a character.

He was kind of pathetic in this one...it seems like he's kind of letting his guard down a little lately and letting the audience (and Stacy, and Wilson) see how really obsessed he is--how really bad he wants this. Usually it's funny, but there are a couple of times when his unassailable conclusions about why Stacy is still in love with him have been a little pitiful (even if they are true :rolleyes: ). Also, his antics involving Mark were getting a little wearying (to me, at least) so I'm glad they went ahead and resolved the situation. I think they pulled it off well--he has no one to blame for what happened but himself. It's completely his own fault Stacy's disgusted with him.

The patient annoyed me a little--he seemed self-righteous without being smart enough to actually pull off "self-righteous" like House does. Then again, the patients usually irritate me on this show so I may have been biased coming in. Although I do have to have some measure of respect for anyone brave enough to stalk House.

As for Cameron and Chase...that was...really random. It happened so fast. I was really surprised Cameron was convinced to do drugs so quickly. I don't like her, but she's usually stubborn enough to stick to her morals even if she doesn't really want to...I guess she's a little more unstable than I thought. :huh: And, um, Chase...setting aside the fact that he should've known better than to take Cameron up on her offer while she was high, there was the whole she-might-have-AIDS thing...I guess his mind was on other things at that moment.

At the end of the episode while the song was playing, House looked really miserable, like he used to in the earlier ones...lately he's had all this manic energy, I guess since Stacy's so close, almost in his grasp. I think that might be why the last few haven't felt very much like House to me. Honestly--this is terrible, I know--I enjoy House more when he's miserable and apathetic, and that's why I've kind of been wary of the whole Stacy arc. If he gets too emotional, too personal, too, um, happy, I don't think he'd be the same character anymore, and I don't think the show would feel right. He is what he is, and I'm not sure I want him to do very much "growing." (Because, you know, FOX asks me what I want. My opinion's very important to them. :) ) So the ending relieved me a little.

On a totally unrelated note...whatever happened to Cuddy's secretary? He was funny.

This is why I love this show- such a superb ep. So much great stuff. :)

Sela Ward seems to have taken a bashing over the way she plays Stacy but I think she does a great job, especially in this one. She does over play the anger at times but that makes total sense to me, when you are fighting with someone who matters and I always get the feeling she’s fighting her own thoughts as well as House. She isn’t a standard likeable character or likely to infuse much empathy but I think the softer moments she always nails it and she’s strong and believable.

I loved that House had not only snooped in her file but he made copies too- that whole scene with Wilson was awesome and it must be that trailers in which a patient questions House or Wilson on their sexuality are the most rocking kind. Love the ambiguity, as the writers are playing it that way, in the certain knowledge that will be pretty much as far as it goes. I can’t get too judgemental over House’s rat behaviour- it is wrong but people screw up when they are under the influence and House just does it, as with most things, in a more spectacular fashion.

Sorry to whine about CaMoron again but the line about getting HIV through ‘doing drugs or being a tramp really pissed me off. House has it right- if it was childhood cancer she’d be all ribbons and balloons but her moral comp ‘ass’ comments do my head in. Aside from that I did like the middle ground winning out in the Kalvin v Cameron’s life perspective argument. Sorry Cameron fans.

Loved House’s subtle shake of the head at Cameron sleeping with Chase – won’t love it if they press on with the ‘thing between them’ because I don’t see House being a willing recipient at the end of a pass-the-parcel game.

Steve McQueen The Rat – have a long life for being the coolest guest star :) , even more so than Carmen, ever. Loved every scene and the subtle nuance with the head? Awesome. House is way too forgivable even when he is screwing up and I loved him a lot tonight - being an ass is what he foes best and he was on form.

And I thought I was the only one who liked Sela Ward/"Stacy."

Well, he had to make copies...stealing the file would of been just plain wrong! :lol: ;)

And as for Cameron, I strangely didn't mind her in this episode. Where that come from, I don't know (must be all that holiday spirit). :blink:

HOUSE BLEW IT! If you illegally obtain and read the medical file of someone you are trying to 'win back' and are using the contained information therein to manipulate the outcome, when your target pulls your card...don't admit to anything! House You IDIOT! He shouldn't even have gone in the 'you don't sleep together' direction! That was a dead give-away! First rule of sneakyness; if you get caught, don't admit to ANYTHING! ;) He almost had her! And where did he end up? By himself in his lonely apartment with only a rat to keep him company! Kindred spirits if you ask me! I feel he deserved to be kicked to the curb. His obsession with Stacy is really unhealthy! I think her reaction would be typical of anyone in that position. He was on the borderline of being a stalker. ( I did think it was really funny when he passed by the bathroom and lifted the toilet seat. ) I think he read Mark's file too. I also think it's sad that he (House) is taking advantage of the fact that Mark is not exactly in a position where he can defend his wife and his marriage. After all, Mark had only been dealing with his being cripple for a couple of months whereas Hous has been dealing with his own disability for years and had learned to, for the most part, accept and deal with it. If Mark had two strong legs and a good right jab, I doubt if Greg would be acting a careless and cockey.

A lot of you who have been on this board for a while all know that I absolutely adore Greg House. I think he is the greatest character in the history of television, but I think he went too far and deserved exactly what he got.

I tripped smooth out ofer Cameron and Chase. I knew they were going to be getting together this season, but I never would have thought it would have been under such bazzar circumstances. Chase was really careless. After all, there is a slight chance she is HIV positive. Did anyone notice if there was a small red bump on his lower lip when he looked at himself in the mirror? I don't have the ep. recorded, but it sure looked like there was something there.

I have never really cared for cameron, but last night I really did feel sorry for her. She's really got to get her issues under control. Screwing your co-workers, getting wacked out on 'X', coming into work high, and being combative just isn't what she needs to be doing. House will shut her down.

Over all, last night's episode was so cool! I loved the fight scene between him and the dad. Smacking him with his cane and holding him against the wall with it to his throat was heart stoping! My husband, who has an intense dislike for the show watched tht part and auctually liked it! I think he just wanted to see Greg get punched. Hmmmm. <_< I was sitting on the floor about three feet from the tube holding myself and squirming.

See y'all around the board! PPD

So much going on in this episode and you folks have covered a lot of ground already.

I too like the choice of Sela Ward to play Stacy and this episode, at least for me proves she was far and away the best choice for the role.


I loved the whole rat subplot!! Just so well done from the writers down and it is so House. Not only did it give him an easy excuse to be with Stacy and to keep showing up at her house, he really was intrigued by the fact that the rat was sick.

It was nice to see a glimpse of what Stacy and House may have once had. Heck, I was yelling "kiss her" at the TV even though I don't think they should be together. They played this so well in that House still remained House. No social skills whatsoever and in the end, because of that he is alone once again, and knows it, just like I think he knew it the first time. That scene in the attic when they were apologizing to each other made the end scene with House alone all the more painful. And I too wonder what might have happened had they not been constantly interrupted.

I have rewatched the sequence between Stacy and House where she figures out he read her file and I have to say that it was just so well done. That he knew what was in her file and that she continued to lie to him. He knew she was lying but she didn't know he knew. Just watch it with the sound off and you'll see what I mean.

That she was falling for him again but once she figured it out she wrote it off as him just having an angle and lying to her. Only when forced into it did she admit to wanting to be with him and even then I get the impression that the only reason she came clean was because she knew she had an out. Don't get me wrong, she had good reason to be upset but she also has issues she needs to deal with that lying isn't going to fix. House has never said he was over her. He needs to be but he doesn't lie about the fact that he isn't.

Plus someone had once said that the "you'll always be the one" scene from 'Honeymoon' was based on the fact that Stacy needed to be honest with him. Then why the deception now? I'm not sure I understand that. I guess she is being truthful in a way but she knows what he is asking and can't clearly say "No I don't want to be with you" or "Yes, I do, let's give it a try again.". Partly because I don't think she really knows herself, but why not just say "I don't know, I have to work this out for myself before I can answer that." To me that would be more honest than what she has been doing.

And not to justify what he did but I think the deception on Stacy's part just drew him in. Why would she suddenly start lying about that. Conclusion her feelings are stronger than she wants to admit and I may just get one of those elusive second chances. I may just be able to get her back, make it up to her, show her I've changed and that we can get along and be together. His arrogance prompting him to think that she would never know about the file, that even if she did he can make it better.

All in all just great writing and acting. The interaction of House and Stacy was so 'true'. I can't wait to see what they're going to do with the next several episodes to finish the 'Stacy' arc.


The Cameron/Chase thing was just wrong but then again that's Chase. And I can see where Cameron would feel that was an option. I have to rewatch the exchange between House and Cameron again (the 'when you think you're dying" scene) and see if that yields any insight into what she is thinking.

All in all a great episode and if the minor 'Ask Asuellio' TVGuide spoiler is to be believed, next week is a definite can't miss!

I loved the episode, but I thought what cameron took was crystal meth not that I would know what it's suppose to do. but it was kinda wierd to see someone her age experiment with drugs. especially since she's a doctor and should know the dangerous of crystal meth. Hell I don't know all the dangers but too many people have gone insane on it and driving cars into trees cuz voices told them to.


I loved the rat but I love rats they're so cute.

It seems too early in the life of the show to start killing people, so I figure neither Cameron not Chase will get HIV.

Though who knows? Maybe they'll make someone get it now so they can kill them off later . . .

Damn that's a morbid thought.

I know! I was shrieking with glee when I saw that, and my friend who was watching it went, "Huh!?" until I explained. Dang I miss London.

Yes, either a bump or a cut. Yeah, at that point (well, at several points) I was like, "Chase, you moron! You damn-good-looking, sexy-accented moron!" Dumb dumb dumb dumb. I guess he's just relying on statistics or something. At one point he told Cameron her chances of getting it were "like zero," so maybe he figures his are less than "like zero"? Though he'd better get his ass on whatever medication Cameron is now on.

Thought House was pretty nasty about the situation, not the Chase-and-Cameron-sitting-in-a-tree situation, but the possible HIV one. Maybe he's just not going to worry about it unless it becomes an issue?

Loved the rat. My friends who keep pet rats will also be shrieking with glee.

Did chase and cameron sleep together? cuz that wasn't clear unless i missed something. It seems like they almost did but Chase decided not to as Cameron wasn't in her right mind.

Yes, they did. Remember when House said something about Chase screwing a collegue that was high? And Chase himself said "[the sex] didn't suck."

true. I forgot about chase saying that.

Hi, I'm new, but have been lurking for ages, and so will pitylessly through myself to the mercy of wiser beings:
I was soooo close to lording 'House and Stacy got together' over my friend....I'd have bet money on SOMETHING. But no. Of course not. I think it may've been bad for the House character, but to see what *was*...yeah.
The snarky lines keep getting better and better with each ep! The cheerleaders thing....that was beautiful.
Britt

I guess I was kinda right, except for the Cameron being totally whacked on meth part.

"Are you high?"
"Uh huh."

I guess not everybody lies . . . . ;)

I finally got to watch this. You've all pretty well beat it to death, but I will say that I don't like Chase in this episode. Yea, she's stoned out of her gourd and she might have HIV. That's when you say "no" to sex, honey. Be a fucking man and show a little backbone and self control will you? Ugh. <_<

As for House, he got what was coming to him, as far as Stacy is concerned. Stealing her personal psych files? Nope, not a good way to get onto someone's good side. It's funny how he always gripes that everyone lies but he can't be straight with someone himself to save his life. I think he's just so insecure that he thinks he has to connive his way through everything in life, because God forbid anybody see what he really feels. They might poke his sore spots, after all. Or maybe he's just not good enough for people to like him for his own sake. *sniffles*

Steve McQueen:

I loved the concept of the only animal House would like would be a rat. It was just perfect.

And the 221b address did make me laugh out loud... and wonder if there are other 'subtle' clues I may have missed.