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Title: The enzyme series are overrated


Mr Zektoll - February 1, 2007 01:57 AM (GMT)
This is actually something that's bugged me since the first time I saw the fifth episode of the original guyver oav. The thing is that if guyver 1 had just thought things through a bit more beating enzyme would have been easy. With the exception of the time shos father got turned into enzyme II every fight with an enzyme type zoanoid including version 3 could have been much easier if the guyvers and Aptom had just used their heads. It's almost like Enzymes hidden power is to make whoevers fighting him stupider since even characters that are usually pretty smart like Aptom and Guyver 3 have difficulty winning fights that would have been easily won if they had done things a bit differently. I think the only characters that didnt do anything dumb when fighting an enzyme was murikami and Hayami

Enzyme is only deadly in close range so if he had just kept his distance and shot at him winning would be easy. In the first enzyme fight Sho might not have had enough time to use the megasmasher and pressure cannon so those options are out, but there are other ways. If he had used his head, he could have won using the head beam alone by slicing off enzymes head or by shooting out his kneecaps so that he can't walk. The sonic emitters could have also been used to kill him, although I'm not sure if sho knew about that weapon at the time.

The fight with shos dad doesnt count because the reason why sho was at a disadvantage there was because he didnt want to kill his dad.

But the next fight with guyver 3 against enzyme 2 you would think he'd know better but instead he doesnt even use his weapons and attacks with his bare hands and got his ass kicked.

Later when enzyme 3 came, the battle could have been won easily if Aptom had taken his opponents more seriously. Even though they have regenerative abilites and the anti aptom virus there's a number of ways he could easily beat them. The first way is by generating more lasers. Aptoms regenerative abilities surpass those of enzyme 3 but zektoll was able to obliterate one of his doubles simply by simultaniously firing all his lasers. Aptom could have done the same. Or he could have just pumped more energy into his whips, enzyme 3 can only take up to 100 million volts but even regular elegan can put out a max of 200 million, Aptom could probably amplify that quite a bit if he wanted to. Also since the enzyme 3's are smaller , the vibro swords of the guyvers would be more effective against them, even with their regenerations, I don't think theyed take well to getting chopped in half. Of course this would render the blades useless after taking out two of them , but it would reduce their numbers.

Riven - February 1, 2007 03:42 AM (GMT)
Actually its been proven that even using long range combat its extremely difficult to kill any Enzyme type.

In the new series Sho did use the head beam against the Enyzme 1 type and it shrugged the attack off like it was nothing but a mosquito bite and I believe he used the pressure cannon with little affect, not to mention the Enzyme 1 type only needed to be within nine or ten feet of you to get yah with its tail. Avoiding it is no easy task either considering it was considerably fast for a test type.

Enzyme 2 was just as hard as to kill. Its speed was increased and its endurance also, not to mention they probably removed all concept of pain from the blasted things mind which would make ANY creature difficult to kill.

Enzyme 3 is the hardest of all three types for the pure simple fact that it has a hyper regenerative system that allows it to heal damage from vibration blades, head lasers all that faster then a guyver can heal. Enzyme 3 is a near perfect killing machine, possessing the corrosive blood, possesses stronger claws, higher endurance and have that blasted tail again. I agree though that Sho using the Gigantic armor should have been able to kill them without trouble, but still keep in mind that aside from Aptom and Neo Zektol, Enzyme 3 is one of the most powerful zoanoids ever that isnt a Zoalord

BloodStorm - February 1, 2007 03:54 AM (GMT)
Another thing ensyme has is it's multiple sets of redundant organs.. even if you blow it's enntire head off it'll still be able to fight.. atleast theoretically.

But judging from the new anime, the sonic emmiters SHOULD have been enough to destroy enzyme one.. and probobly enought for enzyme two as well. Enzyme three is probobly to fast to get enough power in the sonics in order to kill it in a reasonable timeframe using just that one weapon...


I agree through.. guyvers do seem to get stupid fighting enzymes. Or maybe the scriptwriters decided to make them stupid for that fight for plot reasons.

I have a secret anti-enzyme weapon though.. You see, I've discovered how to use sonic emmiters to play showtunes.. and it's a poorly gaurded secret that all enzyme class zoanoids want to be vegas showgirls.

Mr Zektoll - February 1, 2007 06:03 AM (GMT)
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In the new series Sho did use the head beam against the Enyzme 1 type and it shrugged the attack off like it was nothing but a mosquito bite


Of course it wouldnt do any good with sho just taking pot shots at random places on enzymes huge body. What I was saying is that if used in a certain way, he could have beaten enzyme using only the headbeam, for example he could have used it to slice Enzymes head off or shoot out his kneecaps to slow him down long enough to use some bigger attack to finish him off. Sho's used a standard headbeam to slice zoanoids in half before, so he certainly could have done this.


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Enzyme 3 is the hardest of all three types for the pure simple fact that it has a hyper regenerative system that allows it to heal damage from vibration blades, head lasers all that faster then a guyver can heal. Enzyme 3 is a near perfect killing machine, possessing the corrosive blood, possesses stronger claws, higher endurance and have that blasted tail again. I agree though that Sho using the Gigantic armor should have been able to kill them without trouble, but still keep in mind that aside from Aptom and Neo Zektol, Enzyme 3 is one of the most powerful zoanoids ever that isnt a Zoalord


Also Libertus is stronger too. I'm not saying that Enzyme 3 isn't powerful, I'm just saying the only reason Aptom had that sort of trouble with them was because he underestimated them and as result got weakened by the virus. Had he taken them seriously from the begining, he really could have beaten them all using the same sort of attacks Zektoll used against him when he shredded his clone in book 7 with all those lasers, or by upping the amount of voltage he used. Also I think if a vibro sword or laser was used to cut an enzyme 3 in half, that might be beyond its repair capabilities, at the very least it would take too long to heal then would be practical in battle, I say this because that one enzyme 3 who lost his arm didnt grow it back.


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I have a secret anti-enzyme weapon though.. You see, I've discovered how to use sonic emmiters to play showtunes.. and it's a poorly gaurded secret that all enzyme class zoanoids want to be vegas showgirls.


I think the bigger enzymes might have a little trouble with those showgirl poses though

BloodStorm - February 1, 2007 06:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mr Zektoll @ Feb 1 2007, 02:03 AM)
I think the bigger enzymes might have a little trouble with those showgirl poses though

That never stops them from trying.. so then they're all tangled up in thier own limbs like bioweapon pretzles, you can take all the time you want to charge up your megasmasher and make sure the thing is good and dead.




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