i'm all ears let them flow

Now each classification has two additional tiers to show the range each level covers,genus(lower end of the level) and ascendant(higher end,in some cases showing developing powers)

As a guidline,Alkanphel was Gamma,Balcus Gamma Genus with the other Chronos Zoalords rating through the Epsilon range. No character with any mental powers can be a Simpa or Stigma class,many of us will be kappa and upwards

Mental Ability Increments
Alpha-baseline human mental activities
Beta-Increased human mental activities,capable of minor acts of psyk without the aid of a focus.
Kappa-Able to prjoect thoughts into other psy-receptive beings. Can be predisposed to clairvoyance or telekine abilities,but not both.
Delta-Capable of thought projection, telekinesis, mental intrusions and limited astral projection.
(low Zoalord level)
Epsilon- Advanced mental prowess,capable of many acts of psyker abilities(high Zoalord level)
Gamma- The near peak of humanoid psyker abilities.Subjects at this level are powerfuly telekines,are able to pick up thoughts and dominate the wills of others with little effort. Some have even shown the ability to 'ware' other subjects,a skill far more refined and adaptable than crude psy-possession. In rare instances,the latent talent of far-seeing has been awoken.
Lambda- Advent level psy-powers are displayed at this level. Several advanced aplications of lesser talents are easily utilised by beings in this power range. Most power nullifiers are adequate up to this level.
Omega-Currently only known to be achieved by an Advent council working in near symbiosis. Such a group would be uncontested in mental strength.


other classifications

Sampi- Also termed as 'Null's,beings psychically blank to the touch and impenetrable to all but the strongest of influences...even then the effects are greatly limited. Uncommon.

Stigma- The psionically Untouchable. Not only is sucha being immune to mental influence,but the immediate proximity to them is rendered psi-inert. Beings of power are dampened,mental attacks are blunted,even helpful mental techniques are rendered useless. Incrediblly rare.



Then each being would have specific mental areas rated. For example

Mental Intrussion(ie mind-reading)
Telekine
Thought Projection(communicating mentally)
Astral Projection(you know,x-men style tongue.gif)
Mind War(psyker to psyker combat waged inside their minds)
Psychokinesis(the ability to form objects of mental energy)


Any questions,get in touch. Sith and I have pretty much gauged where each-psy-character will range but feel free to ask

awesome template...but one question. where's Daedalus fit on this?

Kappa Acendant/Delta maybe. he is rather limited in psyker terms

I would have to agree with that, being that most of his apparent mental abilities are just some form of simulated PK abilities.

Well Kfives only psych ability right now is the demiurge ability that makes illusions though later Kfive will also get another one the Omni vison ability so I'm guessing Kfive would be somewhere between beta and delta.

Anyway an idea I've been wanting to get out there is that at some point I want to have a giant bio monster made from the abandoned mass Kfive lost when his control metal got ripped out. That can happen after the big battle or during it whenevers most convenient. I actually wanted to do it after it because I had some cool ideas about what the bio monster might do if it stowed away on the escaping ship.

Anyway now that we have an official disscussion thread for this I just want to take the time to say that a certain storyline in the works seems to have inspired a VERY creepy dream involving bloodstorm last night. Damn it! I don't want to dream about stuff like that! I'm still trying to forget about that dream but can't because when I actively try to forget something it just makes me remember it more!(Goes off to the corner to hide from scary dreams)

*makes kissy faces at Zektole*

I wuv you too, babykins.

*throws a torrasque into the mix.*

WAAA! Scary! (Hides inside shoebox)

By the way, Riven was also in that dream and he/she seemed to act like a british stereotype person for some reason (like Percy weasly)

And I thought my zombie dreams were fucked up

Well,Riv's more british than me after all,so it's not that far fetched :P

So where is Ghrecki On this scale. seeing he/I had some powerful mental strength even in hyper zoanoid form.... now Im become a zoalord, then a guyver zoalord.. not to metion Now at least 3 of my zombies are advent... Im guessing Im Lambda level or at least a very high gamma.... but I want to know where you guys ranked him/me

where is Airius on the scale since he had some Telepathic power as a proto-zoalord which has been increased since becoming a fully fledged zoalord and even a guyver zoalord?

I think i rememebr him saying most GZ's will be High Epsilon/Low Gamma

Pretty much bunny. While the armour enhances physical attributes greatly,it doesn't give as big a boost to psyker levels unless it goes beyond the normal bonding process...

yeah but i've also got the whole constant mental chous of me, morte/me(demilich) and my zombies. 3 of which are advent. doesnt that come into concederation?

The advent were bound in armour,so no it doesn't give that big a boost for the above reasons. Plus you've focused more on using your physical strength and your zombies rather than your psyker talents thus far. That's also a factor to work with in regards to psy-levels

What if you were only interested in one specific ability and it was in another class but you weren't interested in gaining the rest of that rank, would you still have to work your way up to level?

At most your skill in a single area will be two grades higher than your overall grade. For example a well practiced Kappa could be graded as an Epsilon telekine. The downside here is that they will be outmatched against onother Epsilon telekine when their opponent is graded higher than them overall

Im actully useing my mental powers alot

the back spines are controled by my mental powers as are my zombies

and my floating head that is Morte my demilich... he's constantly floating..and except for his gigantic zoaguyver form has no gravity orbs. only logical guess is he's useing telekinisis...

so I have been useing mental powers lately.... just not obviously so. as most are tided directly to something

due to a suggestion form ghrecki, and the fact some of our MG df's are getting huge, a new DF site has been created for use

http://z14.invisionfree.com/Shattered_Gate...dex.php?act=idx

There is not a space for me to in the new site... <.<;

Thats becuase your datafile is still too tiny.. you need to use some of those 'enlarge your package today' emails.

could we get a rough outline of what to expect from the diferent powerlevels for ech of the psyker powers. like how strong a telekine delta is and the gamma Thought Projection... stuff like that

I'll work on that tomorrow or friday, but for telekine I can think of rough guidelines.

kappa-able to lift and propel objects up to human sized,not including prior momentum. They'll struggle to fully halt an incoming enemy. Can propel dozens of small items,but only one large object at a time

Delta-able to lift objects up to the weight of an average SUV and can display greater levels of manipulation. Can also manipulate more than one object at a time of this size.

Epsilon-can manipulate objects the size of freight train/small sea tanker. Becomes more adept at creating shperes of pure telekinetic energy to use in combat

Gamma-Begins to achieve true Telekine Mastery. With practice can control possibly hundreds of objects of humanoid size.

Lambda-Can,with sufficient concentration,move objects of starship size witht he power of their mind. Can stop a charging squad of Revyug Collossus in their tracks with a thought. In rare cases can use their telekinesis on a molecular level.

since no-one's at omega level,nor will we be encountering any omegas for a while,I can skip it

quick question. Not that it'll likely matter by the time madguyvers reachs the point we could go there.
but are our units capible of useing an acear from the WG uneverse?

those of you with regular units,yes. Hades and Prometheus on the other hand can't

thats assuming sith will let us have WG tech, anyway, with how powerfull you are. whats another 100 men Str? Its not a doubler or anything, all it does is add the strength of a guyver to you, ADD, not MULTIPLYS.

What sort of abilities do the necro soldiers have? I'm guessing that their stronger then revyugs but weaker then the goji revyugs.

and not to be too much of a bother.... seeing as i already got you working on the psyker stuff.....

but could we see a df for the tinker bell thing?

edit:I like knowing how powerfull something is when i need to post accurate stuff in a fight.

they're roughly 3-400 men in strength,and about 5x in terms of durability. Due to being dead,they're naturally impervious to pain and can keep fighting with massive amounts of damage.

in terms of attacks,they're not the smartest of opponents tactically but they do pack some nasty firepower. First off there's the Shockblasts,speheres of concussive energy. Generally they're similar to a high powered pressure cannon attack. Their other main offensive talent lies in the glands the possess which can secrete a viral pathogen...

You'll get more detail once the df is finished,sometime in the next few days hopefully

And ghrecki,Tink's about 18x roughly. But bare in mind she had four necks and four limbs to use that strength through

Here's a couple things I had questions about that I never really got an answer for. So I thought I'd stick this over here.

Firstly are the units the goji revyugs have the same as those worn by the regular revyugs? My impression is that the difference in streingth is more due to the stronger host but I could be wrong. I'm asking this because the guyver apotheosis mutation makes it possible for me to steal a second set of armor which I'll probably try to do at some point (regular revyug armor would boost me 3x, for reasons why see df)

So if a regular human wore the armor of a goji revyug how much would it amplify their power?

Also I needed to make sure the possible combinations I came up with for the weapons combination mutation were ok. Here's what they are

Vibro sword/disruptor claw combo
Positron beam/head beam combo
Positron beam/mega smasher combo
Weapons pod/positron beam combo
Fanged crotch/bladed toung combo

Also I wanted to know if it was ok if I have the giant bio monster attack after we escape.

And lastly I should probably know what psych class I'm in to put in my df, here's my psychic abilities

Demiurge ability

I Can also psionically order microbes in the bio webbing to self destruct

Revyug units are based on a triple helix DNA sequence for tighter Gene control, and to reduce the cellular degradation over longer periods of time.


essentially, their Super Humans with increased bio energy, long term life span, and without our annoying character defects.

secondly, Each Legion of Revyugs is based on One of the PC's. Each revyug bio boosting unit is in essence a Guyver unit with computer controlled directions as a safety should the Advents new linked control system be compromised. what that means is their powers and abilities are derived solely from their genetics.

Thirdly, I'm throwing the psyker class thing out. It's causing more issues to have you all conform to it, that it is just to not have it.

Next, all mutations are suspended from this point hence forth till i say so. This includes the addition of upgrades that can be found upon the dead. (already promised upgrades and weapons excluded till after present mission is accomplished)

Finally, We are facing a civilization billions upon billions of years more advanced in anything we can imagine. This isn't a Schwarzenegger movie, and you are not the terminator. be realistic, hide rather than fight, sneak, kill from the shadows, hit weak spots. and i put you in teams, try some team work.

So I shouldn't do anything with any mutations I didn't already mention in my last post until we get out of there right?

Does this mean the revyugs are going to mutate to become more like us?

If i ok'd mutations before that was posted you can add them at your leisure.

and for the most part their abilities will mimic ours. The legion based on your PC will be able to gain mutations that you demonstrate to them. This will be on going throughout the RPG.

Only two beings will have access to all mutations.

Whoah snap! I got riven pregnant!

What exactly does the baby look like?

normal looking human baby girl ... for now

My computer goes on the fritz and I manage to visit using the college comp and THIS is what I come back to *shakes head*

I dub Riv the MG babymaker :P

so who's the next daddy?