Seeing as the next AVP movie is coming out and I watched the original terminator movie last night, I figure it'd be worth a shot at trying something like this, I just want to see if anyone's interested at the moment and I'll give more details as they come to me.

um, thought you were doing a Karas RP... you descide not to do it?

I have decided to try and go for both, there a problem with that mr bunny :bang: :P

Have ya'll seen the preview for the new Terminator: Sarah Conners chronicles series? XD Sweet ass.

Ok..it took me awhile to knock the dust of my shoulders, but I'm here now and all I want to ask before I give it the second K of approval is ... Where...When...What..Why... and how? And.....stamp "K"ammy has been here.

wasn't there one of these already, but it crashed and burned?

Yes there was but this one will be a little different :beers:

As for you kammy sir, glad to have ya back, all of your queries shall be answered, once I get more people to show interest, so that being said, round 'em up and get them to post here :P

I had an idea for a character whose something like a zoanoid predator. The basis of this idea is that the predators like the humans in anchient times were experimented on by the advents and some of them have the potential to turn into zoaforms just like some humans. But like with the humans this is something almost completely unknown to all but a few predators.

Interesting idea, I hadn't even thought of that, brilliant!

Well given that in their base forms the predators are as strong as regular zoanoids in a crossover like this something like that would make alot of sense.

Just mulling over some ideas so feel free to jump in and tell me what's good and bad.

I was thinking the Terminators, instead of wanting to kill human beings, would be programmed to protect them.

These terminators would also be sleeper agents of sorts and be unaware they're actually terminators till either preset conditions occur or they discover it for themselves, typically the former occuring moreso then the latter.

There would still be a supercomputer type system like Skynet controlling them but it doesn't perceive human beings as a threat that and it would follow those three laws of robotics crafted by that genius sci fi writer Issac Asimov.

So ya, humanity in this RPG would be fairly advanced technologically, enough to have the terminators fool the Pred's scans unless they took apart a terminator, which, just to be clear, they haven't, just yet.

As for human and pred relations, it's not exactly friendly but it ain't exactly hostile either. More of an alliance of benefit then anything else. Humanity has a fairly large turf, with regards to interstellar space, sharing borders with Preds and other races, which I still have to sort out (anyone willing to help come up with some alien races please do not hesitate to throw ideas at my beautifully crafted skull).

That being said, since in some instances humans and preds interact the possibility for hybrids exist. So yay to all those who want to be a little bit human and a little bit pred.

Humans also possess a strong pyschic potential as well in this RPG. But before ya make an uber pyschic please PM me or catch me on MSN to discuss.

Preds put up with humans because they have begrudgingly taken notice of humanity's ability to be decent warriors, allbeit slightly more crafty and underhanded. Pred tech is still a little more advanced in some respects then human beings.

I'll eventually grab a list of pred weapons and if ya have an idea for a custom weapon once again, get a hold of me to talk it over.

As for humans and Preds, the Advents, now long extinct, are responsible for making human beings and preds, as well as them pesky Xenomorphs as well. Still trying to sort thru the timeline on that part. Humans and Preds both have the potential to be Zoanoids but I think I'm gonna keep it at that, a pred zoalord gigantic guyver is just way too long to say and the obvious fact of being freakin' terrifying...that gives me an idea...!

Anyhoo, humans and preds also have access to guyvers but preds have the facilities to manufacture them whereas humans either have to earn them from preds, quite rare, find left over ones on earth, even more rare, or the unlikely thing of stealing one from a pred controlled planet, which is nigh impossible.

As for the whole notion of Chronos, thinking I may scrap it including Alk and Zoalords all together because that just gets compliated. Unless it gets combined with the whole skynet computer system idea...any thoughts would be appreciated.

As for them Xenomorphs, figuring they're the last and "perfect" bio weapons made by the advents before it all went to hell and they escaped lala and all that jazz. Figure that Xenos haven't had access to Guyver tech until recently and that there would be a lot of infighting in the Xeno ranks which would explain why they haven't taken over the whole universe yet.

Also, last thing, I demand partners in crime in creating this thing. It is far too much for one person to handle. Thus far Mr Z, god bless his paperplated heart, has kindly volunteered to help me is there anyone else willing to shoulder the burden and help even if ya only want to be behind the scenes any help would be kindly appreciated along with all and any input.

That is all for now, so start throwing as many ideas as ya have in here so we can get started....

I said now damnit :bang:

I'd love to help Kai

in fact I got a couple of ideas for yah, but I need to compile them first

What good are you if ya haven't complied them yet, terrible, unforgivable!!!!



















Glad to have ya aboard furball :beers:

for those who need, or want, more info on the xenos here are a fre links
cannon breeds
non cannon breeds
images/toys

Predator vs Guyver vs Aliens vs Terminators vs Smurfs vs Transformers vs PowerRangers vs Superman vs Godzilla vs Waynes World vs Ninja Turtles vs Gargoyles vs Baldurs Gate vs Snorks vs Blue Man Group vs Toxic Avengers vs Heman and the Masters of the Universe vs Star Wars vs Star Trek vs Attack of the Killer Tomatoes vs The Book of Biff vs Terrible Thunder Lizards vs Teddy Ruxpin vs Robocop vs Fraggle Rock vs Avon Cosmetics.

That would be an awesome sequel, I thank you for your support Blood, I expect your details of this amazing idea by the end of time :lol:

Also Known as, The ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny.

Done

biff would Own everyone :P

I think I'm gonna pick a run of the mill good ol human, tired of super beings or what not.

Ok I have a rough idea how the zoalords might be incorporated into this, I'll post more details when I have the time, but this is dependent on the idea that in this continuity Balcus never made it to Alks island.

To be honest I was thinking of removing the whole notion of Zoalords, including Alk and the others, but I definately wanna hear what ya have in mind, perhaps it'll solve some issues I have trying to figure out how to incorporate them.

I agree with you Kai, I think adding Zoalords would make it weird, and not in a good way

Well my idea is that Alkenphel was only woken up recently and right now he's searching for people to be the other 11 zoalords, most if not all of which he hasn't found yet. Of course this brings up the question of who it was that woke Alkenphel up. My idea is that most if not all humans shouldn't really be aware of Alkenphels presence yet and that he was woken up by a scout robot sent by skynet who was investigating the area. This robot is of course sheilded from the electromagnetic fields which is why it was able to enter. When the robot woke Alkenphel up, Skynet became aware of his presence and since that point in time has been using that robot to communicate with Alkenphel as he goes on his journey to find people suitable to become zoalords. Why Skynet is helping Alkenphel is something that really shouldn't be made clear yet though.

Hmm, still not sure how Zoalords would play out, I was thinking of having the Advents create Zoanoids but deemed them not good enough, like they did with the Preds, but not have them exposed to the Guyver unit.

I was also thinking that the Guyver unit itself would be intended for combat, rather then just a basic tool used by Advents from day to day. Which would mean for some more room in tweaking what a "standard" unit could do.

As for Skynet itself, I'm thinking of renaming it, just because I'm pretty sure Preds would laugh at a computer system with such a name. Anyone have any suggestions??

uh... space net? uh... what was the big AI called in I robot? ... hmm.... Pimp net... yeah... im no help. :P

I like this idea. It's thought out so that all three have a place. Plus playing a Pred/human or just straight Pred is a dream come true. I had a rough idea of how Alk and the Zoalords have a place. Maybe they could be some kind of skynet Gruadien/failsafe. like I said Rough but love this idea.

I saw AVP2 on friday, so I have a couple more interesting ideas... :D

Saw the movie.

I'm in. If you need any help, I'd also be willing to help you on that front, Kaiser ;)

I'll hold ya to it old man :beers:

You could always rename skynet to GLaDOS.

Like those Laser projecting triangles and a glimpse at the predator home world? What was that thing he used to break threw the concrete when he was in the Sewer? some kind of mini semisic gismo? or just a strength enhancer?

Eh. Yeh. I know, Kaiser. Took me long enough. Just pop an area up for me to start slapping info and shtuff along. Already voiced meh opinion of joining (of course, w00t).

As for the "other" AvPvG idea bit that was around, well..not exactly crashed and burned, but pretty much on permanent hiatus until further notice due to some..disputes. Enough said there, yes? Moving along!

Zoalord bit...well...in all truth? Defeats the purpose. Seeing how even the lowest ranked Zoalord could pretty much obliterate most in it's wake. In truth I can see up to a Proto-Zoalord being in it, due to their limitations and the like, but the full blown ones - yeah..I can see it not meshing all to well, unless of course, the Zoalords were manufactured a bit by the opposing forces in a manner to combat the Terms/Preds/Xenos/Guyvers, whichever.

But yeah, just tell me where to post it and such, I still have all the information everyone came up with from the previous idea and the like. >,>; Imma packrat, member? x3

I think having zoanoids in it period defeats the purpose of having Terminators to fight the Xeno's

Even a low level zoanoid would be able to trash a terminator, xeno and in some cases even Predators, though I think Hyper Zoanoids would be the more effective against a Pred but thats not the point.

Zoanoids will over shadow the Terminators and make the pointless

Riven must of had a brain fart... to think zek-tole could take out a predator, easier than say... guyot... Yeah a zek-tole could take on a predator... rather easily might I add.... but guyot would be like, "Damn, I made a mistake and stepped on this ant with my new shoes..." Guyout could like, blow up the whole predators ship... with that black hole of his... will i mean implode it... no... crush it into nothingness... u get the point.

Thats my point Tyde if you took a moment to read what I wrote ¬¬


A Zoalord would be too powerful in the context of this rpg. there would be no point to playing because a Zoalord could just wave its hand or look at an army of Xeno's or Preds and blast them into nothingness with naught but a thought.

Actuly riv... im pretty sure a guyver enhanced xeno queen could defeat most zoalords. think of how dealdly the guyver is on a human... and xenos are so much more a weapon than humans.... a guyver queen would probably rip guyot in half

and thats assuming Xenos are allowed units, from the title, im thinking no. >.>

To assume makes an ass out of you and me as the saying goes WZ...

Don't worry, you'll get to see plenty of Xenos with Guyver units :D

Eh, not really...remember, the terminators didn't just come in humanoid forms. A whole slew of forms, actually.

Not to mention, the "Super Terminators" in the AvPvT comicbooks. It took a whole horde of Xenos to take down even just one...and that was due to their acidic blood.

Maybe a Muscle-Enhanced Zoanoid or even the higher leveled Hypers could, sure. Same with a Proto-Zoalord. But if something like a Vamore went up against something that was exceptionally swift, like the T-1000 or the TX one (I think that was the one from the third movie, not sure though), the Vampore would be killed rather easily.

Not to mention, that you could easily play the Zoanoids as another faction all together. No doubt there would be Predators and Humans who didn't want the somewhat "peace" between them and the like, thus would engineer the Zoas. Or the humans/predators that wanted the Xenos as weapons and such.

If you actually think about it, a form of the Terminator is already -in- the Aliens/Predator universe setting in the form of the Androids..albeit, rather squishy versions, but still. Unless the Terminators were programmed otherwise, their numbers would dwindle rather swiftly due to the aspect "Point and shoot"..Xeno leaps at one, it raises gun, shoots, gets an acid shower and poof, there it goes..and becomes where's there is 1 Xeno, there is generally hundreds more..you get the jist of it.

So, with how fast, if given the chance, the Xenos could in essence multiply - even the Humans and Predators with the Terminators help would be hard-pressed to keep up, where as you deploy some Vamores with Terminator "meatshields" and you have a pretty decent foothold. Supply some Hypers to contend with the Warrior+ classed aliens and tada. Not to mention that if a Zoanoid/Hyer/Proto was infested with a Xeno, the combos would add more and more variety to the Xeno list and make it more of a power-struggle for sheer survival.

And an edit toboot!:

Oh and to further present the case, by all accounts - humans in the Alien universe have only just begun colonizing other planets. So, saying humans have thereby unlimited resources to mass-produce Terminators is non-existant. Even with the Predators in the mixture, I doubt the Predators would wish to strip their own planet of resources, and hand humans star-maps and shiat of other hospitable planets to mine resources from. So having the Zoanoids in the mixture would give the humans some reserved forces or even the predators alike. Only so many humans, predators and terminators..where as Xenos are pretty much unlimited once they take a foot hold on a planet. When they can use not only Predators, but humans, animal life and the like for hosts..not to mention what the dumbass humans generally try to do by genetic egineering them further, means sure we got better tech, so do the preds...but when it comes right down to it? Even a human can fall to an ant colony, given the type of ants.