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Title: Priscilla and Raki
Description: Speculation thread


Reinard-fox - February 26, 2008 08:20 PM (GMT)
To me it seems that their relationship may influence the future development of plot (hopefully not in a way that anime did it :/), so I'm asking this question: what have happened with them in this 7 years? It is obvious that Raki should be a young man by now, full of young hormones. Since we can be sure that Isley couldn't have allowed Raki to accidentally see Pris eating humans (unless Isley planned for it to happen of course) for he is a smart man and is able to plan things at least this far, It is highly likely that Raki is still not aware of who Pris is. So, what did their relationship develop into? I know this is a compete speculation, but still, I think we can make this into an interesting discussion.

Kolox - February 26, 2008 09:04 PM (GMT)
How about Isley trying to create his own claymore ;p We have awakened being and human, their offspring would be half-yoma, half-human ;p

Zangi - February 26, 2008 09:41 PM (GMT)
Considering it, Isley 'serves' Priscilla. She is 'happy' with Raki. It wouldn't do him well, if either him or her had to do away with Raki...

That is my opinion/view on it...

Reinard-fox - February 26, 2008 09:56 PM (GMT)
Firstly, Zangi is right. It's not like Pris will let Isley hurt Raki. Also, why would Isley need another mail claymore? He has unbeatable Priscilla on his side, no need for more power.

Kolox - February 26, 2008 10:00 PM (GMT)
Just proving to organization that he can do the same thing :D

Bluedragon77 - February 26, 2008 10:14 PM (GMT)
Maybe Pricilla keeps Raki as a pet. While Raki thinks he is taking care of Pricilla like a nanny. In actuallity Raki is Pricilla's little pet dog which she can show off to any survivng AB's. Like Paris Hilton when she still had her dog. Clueless and only thinks of pet as an accessory.

Reinard-fox - February 26, 2008 10:16 PM (GMT)
@ Kolox: Thats possible only if it happens that way :D

@ Blue: She didn't seem to be treating him like a dog... Totally otherwise, actually.

MoonWhisper - February 26, 2008 11:08 PM (GMT)
Raki is like a teddy bear for her. A talking teddy bear that she listens to most of the time, at that.

Reinard-fox - February 26, 2008 11:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (MoonWhisper @ Feb 27 2008, 03:08 AM)
Raki is like a teddy bear for her. A talking teddy bear that she listens to most of the time, at that.

It may have very well been so 7 years ago. However, I can't believe that nothing changed in their relationship, for at least one of them had to change, and significantly at that. Raki had definitely grown up and possibly matured, and this fact had to affect their relationship. If he was a teddy bear back then, he may be like big brother now. Or something else.

Elcura - February 27, 2008 12:09 AM (GMT)
You may think Isley bows down to Priscilla, and while that is somewhat true don't get it twisted. Isley is using Priscilla, whether he has feelings for her is probably irrelevant. Since Isley probably has a plan more substantial than "let's go south!"

I see Raki and Priscilla having a very strong relationship. It serves more to fuel the eventual conflict between Priscilla and Claire, with Raki torn between the two women he cares most about.

Claire was Raki's Savior, his reason to live, the reason he's still alive. His everything. While Claire and Raki haven't spent as much time together as Raki and Priscilla, the bond he shares with her is just as strong.

Priscilla is more like a dumb big sister you gotta take care of. Ok, I can do better than that (I hate Priscilla). So Priscilla (along with Isley) after 7 years is probably like family. They've spent so much time together that the bond they share is strong. Protecting a loved one is important, especially after you get to know them. It's hard to believe someone that you've known for so long under a guise could really be the person that your other loved one detests.

I think it'll be a very emotional, powerful and conflicting moment. I can't wait for it.

That is of course, assuming Raki is still alive/with Priscilla and Isley. The possibility that he's been killed (by Priscilla and/or Isley) or ran away is also there. This is Claymore, so nothing is that predictable.

Reinard-fox - February 27, 2008 08:15 AM (GMT)
Of course it may be possible that Isley is using Priscilla, but we are yet to know what for. No confirmation of this theory was received, after all.

Exactly, this conflict of two strong relationship is what interests me. Hopefully, Raki won't act like an emo knight on white horse, and it will be executed in more interesting way.

Possible, but doesn't seem likely to me. Unless Pris got tiered of him and ate him, he'll probably stay with her. Considering he has nowhere to go, and their bond should have become rather strong, I can not really see him leaving his new family to search for... what?

Zangi - February 27, 2008 08:25 AM (GMT)
He is probably still trying to look for Clare as a side thing... wondering if she is still alive... and generally gathering information, which would be a help to Isley/Priscilla...
Raki may have grown 'attached' to Priscilla, like how Clarice is to Miata? But not as wierd or 'scary' in his viewpoint...

Elcura - February 27, 2008 12:12 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Reinard-fox @ Feb 27 2008, 08:15 AM)
Of course it may be possible that Isley is using Priscilla, but we are yet to know what for. No confirmation of this theory was received, after all.

Exactly, this conflict of two strong relationship is what interests me. Hopefully, Raki won't act like an emo knight on white horse, and it will be executed in more interesting way.

Possible, but doesn't seem likely to me. Unless Pris got tiered of him and ate him, he'll probably stay with her. Considering he has nowhere to go, and their bond should have become rather strong, I can not really see him leaving his new family to search for... what?

No official confirmation sure. But looking at ES3 (I think, where Isley fought Priscilla) I really get that impression. Like Priscilla bowing down to Isley is a cover, and Isley really being Priscilla's subordinate is a cover of a cover for Isley.

I find it hard to believe that someone as strong and smart as Isley hasn't got something better planned. Brain and brawn > *

Reinard-fox - February 27, 2008 12:17 PM (GMT)
Well, he sure has enough potential to become some major villain, but I'm not sure about his goals, which pretty much determine his decisions and actions. Thus it's hard for me to predict his movements.

Kolox - February 27, 2008 01:52 PM (GMT)
If his goal is to take over the organization...well, I don't know what else Awakened Being could ask for - rule the world ? Make everyone AB like him ? Destroy the world :D ?

Reinard-fox - February 27, 2008 03:31 PM (GMT)
Destroying the Organization seems possible, but if he wanted to do so he should have attacked already, since Priscilla is on his side. As for ruling the world.... isn't it too boring? Nowdays everyone wants that, if Isley was one of them wouldn't it be lame?

Zangi - February 27, 2008 04:17 PM (GMT)
Destroying the world just seems stupid... well unless you are an immortal who has gone on to the deep end.
Awakened Beings seem like they are immortal. And considering it, Riful and other Awakened Beings probably go into hibernation of some years at a time. Coming out to eat or to have some fun.
In a sense, they seem 'petty'...

As for destroying the organization... what fun is that? They are the ones who supply the Awakened Beings after all...

Reinard-fox - February 27, 2008 04:20 PM (GMT)
^ Revenge. Same motif as Claire and friends have.

Zangi - February 27, 2008 04:27 PM (GMT)
^ Destroying the Organization is a double-edged sword. For both sides.

-For Clair and Co, no 'reinforcements' to fight youma. They can't be everywhere either...
-For Awakened Beings, their numbers would eventually dwindle away, with them fighting themselves or whatever reason.
-For regular youma, they have it good... unless they get 'drafted' or killed by bored Awakened Beings...


Now, if Clair and Co would remake the organization... well I'm not sure how... things should be fine? Maybe? ... ? Depends...

If Isley and Priscilla remade the organization, as a puppet... they gots the monopoly... and the control.
Actually, if I was an Awakened Being, this would be very entertaining... to pass my 'immortality' away...

My Claymore vs your Claymore, who's is better?

Reinard-fox - February 27, 2008 04:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Zangi @ Feb 27 2008, 08:27 PM)




QUOTE
-For Clair and Co, no 'reinforcements' to fight youma.  They can't be everywhere either...


Doesn't seem to bother them.

QUOTE
-For Awakened Beings, their numbers would eventually dwindle away, with them fighting themselves or whatever reason.


Awakened beings care little about each other or their general numbers.

QUOTE
Now, if Clair and Co would remake the organization... well I'm not sure how... things should be fine?  Maybe?  ... ?  Depends...

If Isley and Priscilla remade the organization, as a puppet...  they gots the monopoly... and the control. 
Actually, if I was an Awakened Being, this would be very entertaining... to pass my 'immortality' away...

My Claymore vs your Claymore, who's is better?


The main reason for their revenge is that Organization took away their human lives. I wonder if someone who kills for this reason would herself experiment with attaching Yoma to human.

Isley killed all of his "comrades". he doesn't seem to be interested in increasing the number of AB.

Kolox - February 27, 2008 07:12 PM (GMT)
Isley wants an army who would be always loyal to him - like black coats always have claymore loyal to them and they are never afraid they will betray them - so wouldn't care less about creatures which were created by that organization.

...and the twins proves that AB can care about each others and can be loyal :)

Reinard-fox - February 27, 2008 07:15 PM (GMT)
If he wanted a loyal army he wouldn't have sacrificed it at North.

Kolox - February 27, 2008 07:22 PM (GMT)
^ It's better to have mindless killing machines that AB with their own opinion - also, in comparision with Priscilla they are weak. So maybe he wants an army of Priscilla like AB ?

Also they were to weak if they died so easily (in comparison to Isley and Priscilla, those were just worms).

Reinard-fox - February 27, 2008 07:27 PM (GMT)
Hardly, considering people like Priscilla and Teresa appear pretty rarely. Also why would he want army of those who is stronger then him? Even mindless killing machines develop some brain with time, which Miria and co proved successfully.

Compared to Pris even Isley is not that far from worm. Rigaldo, who was considered insanely strong, was raped in 5 minutes. Those of Abyssal strength are very rare.

Duath - February 27, 2008 10:49 PM (GMT)
Raki seems to be strangely attractive to Yoma and AB, so perhaps they are using him as bait. In other words, they have somehow convinced him that they are not bad, (remember, I don't think Raki actually knows what an AB is. All he knows is that some are bad, and has seen one)

Basically, Isley could tell him that this was the next form of evolution for Claymore, and eventually Clare would attain it as well. That way he would still work for them.

Then acting as a Man-whore, Raki goes and seduces AB, making them join Isley

;D

MoonWhisper - February 28, 2008 12:47 AM (GMT)
Further replies to this topic may be dangerous
:blink:

It's already been stated that Isley feels no need for any minions besides Priscilla, the strongest.

Elcura - February 28, 2008 01:50 AM (GMT)
Raki isn't a minion. He's a toy for the only person who can best him.

Reinard-fox - February 28, 2008 01:36 PM (GMT)
Well, Raki calms Pris down, I guess. So he is sorta useful for Isley, as a guarantee that Pris won't organize another massacre-random-people festival.

Zyel - February 28, 2008 05:43 PM (GMT)
I say Raki will marry Priscilla and they will live happily ever after until he get pawned or eaten by his wife. Also his lifespawn may decrease if Clare finds him with Priscilla.

Reinard-fox - February 28, 2008 05:52 PM (GMT)
Well, for now Clare have treated Raki as her little brother or something like that, so it's unlikely that if she finds them together she would kill him. Rather, his wife is in danger and once Pris is dead, nothing prevent Clare from changing her opinion of Raki and starting to see him in other light. This is the moment when Raki marries for the second time.

Zyel - February 28, 2008 06:44 PM (GMT)
Assuming that Clare doesn't fall for Isley that is.




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