I was disappointed with the movie and was beginning to fidget half an hour into the movie. This is the first time I fidgeted so much (like Orlando-2!) during a movie, and checked my watch four times. It bored me that much.

The soundtrack was annoying especially since it played about 4627426354 time during the whole course of the movie. It's cool in the beginning of course, but towards the battle scenes the music lacked the majesty that the scenes should have.

The music got so bad at one point of time that I covered my ears (discreetly of course) with my hands. I almost got up and leave without finishing watching Paris!

Anyway, is it just me or does it sound like an imitation of 'LOTR' regarding the 'wailing' in some of the songs? 'LOTR' does it better at appropriate times anyway.



Brad Pitt is quite bland in the movie. He's got some crappy lines, and that disturbed me quite a bit. It seems as though the reason the average movie-goer should watch the movie is because of the big names attached to it, because eventually the story seems to lose credibility to be able to stand on its own.

How could Achilles go from being plain cruel and evil to loving and kind within the span of... 2 weeks? "He was born to fight", and yet he simply ran around aimlessly in a city he barely knows to find his lover. Things like this did not happen in the actual story, and there were lots of unnecessary scenes that dragged the movie. Lots of boring half-naked scenes.


I was disturbed by the amount of man-flesh exposed, even Orlando's for heaven's sake. Too much time spent on those stuff, in my opinion.



There're three scenes I like. The reason that exists for all three is the fact that the music was not annoying^^

1. Paris/Medelus (sp?) fight scene.
The inexperienced Paris fought and dodged blows easily because of a lack of fighting experience from both parties. Paris finally got out of his sheltered life and faced death, being finally defeated. The scared look in his eyes haunt me even now as he crawled and hung on tightly to his brother's, Hector, leg.

He finally knew that what he did was irresponsible and stupid, and the lesson caused him his honour, his pride. The younger prince of Troy had grown up, and as he retrieved the Sword of Troy for the "continuation of the Trojans' in future" (Priam), his sudden maturity showed... Well, I thought that Orlando did quite a good job. Nobody else seems to think that though.


2. Hector/Achilles fight scene.
Eric Bana being cast as Hector is one of the best things to happen to the movie. He carries himself well as the responsible older prince of Troy and his credibility as one who led their army was fabulous.

The cheoreography of that particular fight scene was spectacular, and the beats of the drums (not annoying wailing) adds to the overall tension and suspense of the scene. It's well-done, and only during this part was Achilles' 'powesses' established for me.


3. Priam/Achilles talk.
Retrieving his eldest son's body, Priam went down on his knees though he was King of Troy, to beg Achilles, the man who killed his son. The emotional thing about Achilles weeping while wrapping Hector's body (I assume he's mourning his cousin's death, not Hector's) did not touch my heart for some reason...



That's all I liked, I think.




The massive fight scenes were uninteresting because too many people had done these stuff, and there're no difference from this compared to others. LOTR is definitely top of the crop from here, but I shall not continue the comparison.

And why must Achilles die so slowly? Poison from the arrow slowly attacking his inner organs? Bah, was counting down the seconds to when he finally falls. The sub-plot of Achilles/cousin-of-Hector was disgustingly long and horrible.



I haven't been this unfeeling for a looooong time during a movie funeral scene. :\




Acting: 4/5
Script: 2.5/5
Directing: 3/5
Soundtrack: 1.5/5

MY RATING: 3/5 stars.

I couldn't agree more!
I was very dissapointed myself!

and as for that director!!! HELLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOO!!! man you made some HUGE mistakes there dude!

I didn't mind the nudity though, although there was loads of it, it sort of made the movie interesting.

and as for Orlando...
you act sooo much better when you are paid less!


too bad!
it could have been a great movie!

I have to agree with everything you said. I was really looking forward to this because of the Greek mythology, but right at the opening of the movie, I knew I was going to be somewhat disappointed.

The only acting I really enjoyed was Eric Bana's. The choice of casting him as Hector was the right one. The man who did Priam as well--I can't for the life of me remember his name--was casted well, too, in my opinion. I wasn't too fond of Orlando's, for some unexplainable reason.

Being the over-emotional sap that I am, I cried at one part - the whole Hector then Priam scene. The part that made me cry was truly the only part I really enjoyed.

I thought it was a pretty good movie.

The only part I REALLY wasn't too fond of was all the fighting scenes. They got boring and began repeating themselves. Plus, the cameras and editting went so quick during the fights that it almost seemed like I was watching a blur on screen. You couldn't make out half the things that were going on.

Orlando's character definatly was different in my mind. I didn't realize someone could make a respected Prince look so wimpy.

Other than those factors I thought it wasn't too bad. Eric Bana was definatly a good find. I don't know who else could have played that role better than he. He definatly impressed me. I found myself becoming more excited to see him on screen that Orlando, which is sad on my part.

I thought Sean Bean played a good role, too. I think his character was a bit overlooked during all the upheavel of the movie.

I was a little shifty as to how Brad Pitt would pull off a major war hero. I thought he pulled it off okay. It definatly could have been worse. I think just because the anger side of him was weakening, didn't mean his heart wasn't in it the whole time. He was eyeing Prissilis (I think that's her name) since the beginning of her capture.

I loved the whole Achilles/Prima talk. I didn't understand why Achilles was weeping over Hector, though and calling him brother. Maybe, it was because of his cousin like Peiyu said.

The one factor that I found to be, was that I had a hard time deciding which side to root for. Sure, Greece had an ass for a king, but there was something about both sides that captured me. Really, it didn't matter in the end since we all know the outcome before it even starts.

In the end I found the eye candy to be a distractin to the actual plot. I think that's why I enjoyed watching it more than I should have.

~Stacy~

I'm seriously learning that my age is catching up with me! I went to the midnight showing of TROY last night, and I really do hope that being tired is what contributed to my 'less than enthusiastic' response to the film. First, I will say, it wasn't BAD, par see...it just wasn't good either.

It was a complete Hollywood bastardization of a revered story, and the actual plot seemed to lack in some places. Like the scene would end, and you'd sit there scratching your head going 'huh?...but, but...' ESPECICALLY when Troy is overcome. The bloody King is killed with very little fanfair, and Paris, whom his only positive attribute is his love of his father, doesn't even consider his missing, nor does he make any attempt what so ever to go and look for him. Does he simply assume his father is dead? And Bean as Odeyssus...just all the sudden decides to turn from the only moral Trojan to supreme evil with no explaination? He simply decides to build the horse and slaughter an unsuspecting sleeping country?

Priam was wonderful, and Brad...did get annoying at times, but all in all he did well for what he was supposed to be...kind of dense with only killing and glory on his mind. His best scene by far was dragging and desecrating the body of Hector. You truly hated him at that moment of extreme vanity. His crying over Hectors body in my opinion was his reconcilliation with the fact that he truly was horrible inside to have done the horrendous thing he did. Under any other circumstances, he would have killed just as Hector did, and I believe he was mourning this privately, in the fashion that he would not allow others to see any weakness on his part. He did admire Hector, and was disgusted with himself for his behavior. But, Eric Bana...Ladies and gentlemen OWNED the film. Were it not for him, it really would have been a less than average movie. He was brilliant, and beautiful...especially when he flashed that one amazing smile over the pride of his son.

Orlando played the part well in the sense that even when he did finally do one damn thing right, by staying behind to defend his city he still completely and utterly fucked it up by killing Achilles in the way that he did. Poor Paris, killing the 'un-killable' when the man didn't even have a sword in his hand. And sorry peeps...Paris should have died. Another Hollywood ending. In the book, he dies, damn it! I agree with PP, though...Orlando showed his true talent when he crawled back to clutch his brother's leg. Anyone can act at being a pussy and crawling away...but OB captured the most haunting and degraded look within his eyes that made me literally feel sick with sorrow and embarassement on his part. That was brilliant. Diane Kreuger is disturbingly beautiful, and I think it was a mistake not to expand upon her respectful reltaionship with Hector. It was hinted at, but never expanded upon...basically, Helen had more dignity and respect than the man she left Greece for. It was an interesting dynamic that was again left hanging.

I think I'll see it again, just to appreciate it for what it is, an action filled huge production with some fucking incredible abs!

I have one thing to say to WOlfgang: THANK YOUUUUUUU for the scene where OB stands naked in front of the bed...I appreciate what was hinted rather than seeing too much. Damn can you say ABS????

and finally:

KIM's AB SCALE RATING:

Orlando 8.5
Brad 7 (he cheated...you can see botox in his skin!)
Eric Abs 7 CHEST PEEERFECT 10!!! *lol*
Bean just hinted, but a nice sound 5
And Achilles cousin...not bad dude...nice 6 for you!

Hmm...

I just came out of the cinema as well and I have to say apart from everything that disappointed me - which I will expand later - the movie did surprise me in a good way.
Because it was not your everyday Greek/roman/whatever war/history thing. It was a movie to think about because of the ending, which I found brilliant.
It absolutely captured the idea of war being something incredible senseless, which barely any war-hero film does.

To the characters and their interpretation...


Achilles:
I do have to admit that Brad did a good job, even though I can't stand him, he portrayed him well, and even looked quite ok with the longer hair. He doesn't touch me but that's nothing new.
And I don't think that his "change" as some of you called it was so sudden. He wasn't just a killing machine, he was arrogant, yes. He was superstrong and harbored much much anger and hatred. But that was the only thing that keep him going. You can see that in the scene with his cousin, where he says that at night he sees all of his victims, waiting for him - how can you stand such a life without either going insane of internally really really cold.
The girl - and really you can't call her a woman, melted something inside him and that's why he dies, because he lost what he had believed in, what he had fought for - his arrogance and determination. I think it's a quite interesting dynamic.

And as for his weeping over Hector, that is like the most understandable thing of all - yes he killed his nephew and he killed him for that - but he was the only man who ever gave him a challenge. Of course he lost Achilles cannot die except for at his heel - he is not vulnerable. They didn't show that in the movie really - as most of the mythology - but he had the most honest respect for a fighter as Hector who loved his country so much that he was willing to sacrifice himself. That's why he hates Agamemnon.

As for his death - Hollywood, that's all I'm gonna say. *lol* and all the time pictures of Boromir flashed through my mind *grins*.


Hector:

Wow. Eric did a great job, really. Absolutely stunning performance. The valorous looser - gotta love him. Hardly anything to say to him since his role is so... so, you can't argue about it, might even say it's a simple role without the negative connotation. He did a great job and carried the credibility of the whole thing.


Paris:

Sorry but why do you all hate him so much?! I was for one, really pleasantly surprised by Orlando's performance - really the way the role is written (which is really different from the Paris in Homer's "Iliad" but well...) the way it is written it is for my perception written for Orlando.
The smoldering passion, but so SO human fear. He may be a coward but for me that makes him so much more lovable then Achilles and even Hector.
As Helen said: "I don't want a hero, I want someone to grow old with."
He is a human being, he is how we all would act, come on admit it.
He falls helplessly, immortally in love, and takes his chance to make her his wife - not thinking about the result - but show me one passionate lover who does?! When he realized what he did - he wants to take consequences, but in the face of death he realizes that this ends everything, because what he fought for was his love which is ended by his death. It would steal the whole deal of it's meaning leaving the love of his life a widow. Who would not be afraid of death?!
You have to take into account what they are fighting for to judge a character: Achilles: History, fame, glory - but he feels immortal anyway so what's his risk really?! Hector: His country, his father... That's a good thing, but it leaves himself disposable for the sake of his aims. Paris on the other hand fights for his love...
And he suffers for that, what Orlando portrays really good in my eyes.

The way he crawls to his brothers feet, the way he gives Aeneas the sword of Troy, not feeling like a prince anymore, not wanting to be one anymore after his fathers and brothers dead. He did a good job, really.
And god - I am no Orli fan, but these eyes of his, this face... this is the first movie who made him really and absolutely sexy. On this smoldering, sultry but on the same hand very human very very lovable level.


Odysseus:

I was soooo looking forward to see Sean :), but actually I found for the great Odysseus... he just lacks this kind of presence. It's sad really because I adore him so much, but he was too less... he didn't bring that kind of charisma that an Odysseus demands.
But then again, it would have been difficult in the fact that he submits to Agamemnon, and get's this Horse idea, which really comes across horribly unfair in the film... difficult to say but Odysseus was a hero of my childhood - they made him so much smaller in the film.

Still love ya Sean ;)


Helen:

Great dubbing! *lol* erm for the rest, stunningly beautiful and really really tragic character in the way the script was written.


Agamemnon:

Too less character. I don't live pure stupid evil characters and eh had no bit of understanding, no absolutely no sympathy which is in my eyes really a mistake.


Priam(os):

Very good, really did a good job. *sigh** but damn, if he had listened to his sons Troy... or Troja as we call it, wouldn't have burned that night.



All in all I really didn't find it that bad. Ok the special effects sucked. Sorry to say that but it was sooo obvious that the boats and the soldiers at the beach were not real...
But the fights were awesome. Really I am no friend at all of fight scenes. But for a movie that revolves around one war, there was pleasantly few fighting in general - and that which was there I found extremely interesting from the Armour and weaponry side... gosh these shields and movements. I found it great really.

As for the man flesh: Oh dear Lord save me *lol* hot!
But it's great, not only because it's so hot and swoonable and really making your head turn at some point *lol*, but that is what the ancient Greeks were like. They didn't have that Christian shame so much - which I find a great thing.

Anything else? Oh yes changing of the story. They made Paris and Helen lovable, Odysseus smaller and Achilles... different. Hmm... it works. For me it seems to be more of a history movie then a true adaption of the Iliad would have been, without all the gods and Paris' decision of who is the most beautiful godess bla bla - it makes them humans in a human environment, what is good.


So written too much?

*lol* needed to get that out :)

and as a lover of history and fantasy movies I gotta say this was a good one - even the main stream elements were a kind of ...
well they could have been worse. American, patriotic Hollywood would have made burning Troy an act of heroism. Thankfully that was avoided, and even though there was lots of lots of heroism of fighting and stuff - in the end all that seemed so shallow, because these fighters just didn't understand what it's about.
Hector did - Achilles hadn't - but then he did and as for Paris - he knew it too. As Priam said: "Maybe love is the best reason to fight for!"

*lol* just that in the real story it's not really so much about love as about claimed ownership of the most beautiful woman on earth... thankfully they changed that *lol* I likes seeing Paris the way they did.

:)

bye bye or I'll write even more *lol*
really gotta stop!

Laila


PS: And I LOVED the Josh Groban Soundtrack :)
Beautiful!

:blink:
dunno, so much to say, I liked it as a hollywood thing, I went to the movie with the idea off; this is hollywood crap, the story will be 'ameliorised' at many points and the special effects are going to suck. And (although I was right) I liked it, I enjoyed myself sitting next to Sophie & watching loads of eyecandy. (only reason I went, will be the only reason why I buy the DVD (I hope there's a special edition with all the bits that have been cut :tsk: ).

Did Paris died? (I had expected him to do so, as this is a greek story, but I don't remember, read the book when i was 11 or so)

Have decided that director or is ruled by his wife or is like soooo part of the family (making movies about ancient greece is always suscpicious)

Somebody should tell chocolate to stop making this sort of movies, he sucks at it
(is weird why doesn't he sucks at the lower-budget ones? somebody an explonation?)

oh and I did like oddyseus actually and the real batlle lasted for 10 years for those who are confused. (other people would have aged a bit, botox rules)

This was something I had doubts over too. True that he, as a king, loves his country to risk any war coming to his people; but I thought that he was being protrayed as a rather peace-loving person during the entire show (up to the time when they were building the wooden horse) and the sudden change was a little startling.

:lmao: I don't like Brad in the movie at all, and less so in real life. He just isn't ageing gracefully enough for my liking, you know what I mean? Some men accept the gradual change nicely but he's looking weirder and weirder each year, as though he was being 'stretched thin'.

I couldn't agree more about the battles scenes!It kept repeating itself and oneself can feel nothing for the battles after watching it like 3-4 times in the whole course of the movie.

Im pretty Ok with the movie and even watched it twice because of Eric Bana.He was really good in it.Peterson casted Eric Bana as Hector was a great choice.I was really impressed with his talents since i didn't watch any of his movies before(now im looking for his first movie "The Chopper").

I am happy that Orlando did a pretty good job as paris although i hate the love scenes .He just went a little overboard with his expression.I love the part where he was fighting with Menelaus(sp?),his acting before and after the fight was REALLY GOOD.it breaks my heart watching paris clutching onto his brother's leg and begging him to save him.This is another reason why i think that Orlando was good as Paris.

Helen(Diane Kruger).Many said that she doesn't has the looks that launched a thousand ships but i think she does.Her acting was a little too stiff,but overall i think she did a great job considering this is her debut flim in hollywood.

Brasis.I love the character and i love the actress(i forgot her name,dammit).Very much looking forward to her other movies.

and lastly,BRAD PITT.He was alright in it.Just that his face is too pretty to be Achilles and not fierce enough to be a warrior(my friend and i thought that Viggo would do a better warrior then Brad..hmm?anyone with me?)

Hector and Achilles fight scenes.I love the scene in the whole movie!Nice fighting steps,good choice of not using stuntmen.

Soundtrack - was really really bad when i watched the second time.it was blasting into my ears and was pretty annoyed by it.But "Remeber" was a nice song.

Overall - pretty cool about the movie.might buy the DVD when its out.

:shine:

huh for everybody who wanted to know
the las is called briseïs in the movie, the original greeck name, no idea, she rocked anyway

wanna have special edition :tsk:

Okay! It's nearly two am here, I have just come back fromt the theatre where I have finally seen TROY!

Fresh short review...

I enjoyed the movie very much, although it is really "just inspired" to the Iliad, despite the fact the music was horrible and annoying, and the fact two idiots sitting behind me have chatted all the movie long... i liked it.

I really don't know what the fuss is about it, and why people seem no to like it.
If we start from the assumption it is a Hollywood movie we won't definitely run the risk to remain deluded.

First of all I am in love with the costumes and all arms, not much with the hairstyles, but I have seen many ancient Greek vases and they seem pretty faithful to me.

I won't go too much into details about Orlando's acting... you all know how much I adore that bloke and as my review is utterly positive, I am sure you would think I am partial.
His eyes are a killer, you gotta agree on that, and I know he has lot to improve, but he did a fantastic job.
Paris in the Iliad was a coward, weak and full of himself character. He portrayed him well. They actually gave tpoo much importance to love, which is something that was not so stressed in the poem, but the movie seems to revolve around the same principles: LOVE, HONOR, HATE, REVENGE, COMPASSION... look at what they did with Achilles and Briseis!

I enjoyed Eric Bana's acting, but I must admit that in some parts he was flat. He has a wonderful character, the valiant Hector, so does Brad Pitt.

Kim I agree with you: Brad's abs do not look natural at all! LOL!

So... a positive experience for da Ursi.
Apologies for being so short, but I am soooo sleepy!

:love:

oh what ever, gonna post
[/QUOTE]many ancient Greek vases and they seem pretty faithful to me.
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uh I know i'm doing difficult, also saw egypt statues and that appolo statue in front of the temple had budha-curly-hair, pritty odd
would have went along with the egypt statues (you get a vieuw of them when the greecks are destroying them) as the countries are in the same neighbourhood but the appolo did make me frown

as I already said whateva'

So precious, should I be honest or polite?

Polite? Ok.

I went to see Troy with the assumption it was going to be a superficial thing. But I kept on clinging to the thought that, being a huge Hollywood creation, involving tons of cash and a pretty bunch of actors, I thought it could be, at least, well done.

Music was totally annoying and not catchy at all. Battles did not exist, with the exception of the duel between Hector and Achilles.

Characters were not well developed, and you can rely on actors to express feelings but not leave all the burden of feedback on their shoulders!
I won't discuss if it was inspired to the Iliad and how much, bacause I have never studied it the proper way. I used to be quite fond of Greek mythology (sp?) and I didn't like the fact the influence of Gods was totally kicked off, but yet, I know there were many reasons for that war and you just cannot put them all in.

Actors...

uhm.
Brad is Brad. Personally he has never been my ideal man, but as an actor, I just can bow to his talent, because I've seen a lot of movies of his and, apart from Interview with the vampire, he can make almost every kind of character alive. Achilles was a tough one, too pissed off to be believable, but he made a good job. At first I didn't agree with the director's choice to cast him, but now I think he was right.

Eric: I didn't seeHulk so this was my first Eric's film. Well, Hector has always been my favourite male character of the Iliad, so of course he got my attention in here as well. But Eric himself, he played him properly. He's believable but not too kitch. So, yay for Eric.

Diane: I've always detested Helen, but one of the few things I appreciated was the fact they put Helen into an innocent and fragile light. Her character is not developed enough, so I cannot judge it well, but Diane is beautiful and looks a nice actress. Mind, here it Italy is slightly more different to catch the whole acting thing because of the dubbing. We all know voices can make the difference. :)

Peter O'Toole, Sean and others: nice actors. It's a pity they looked a little "thrown" on the scene. Like: go there and do this. Yeah, but why?Why my character reacts this way? Who cares, go and play and if ur quick enough the audience won't wonder.

Orlando: ehm. I know I'll probably unleash the wrath of lots of fans of his, but, sorry girls, I didn't like him. Not at all. Ok, his character was totally unnerving and hateful and he had like 2-3 good moments of yawning brains kicking, and it's not Orlando's fault.
But I just didn't like the way he played. He wore one expression. One! Smiling Paris=blank.
Worried Paris=blank.
Daring Paris=blank.
Maybe it's just me, but I wasn't able to decide if it was just his standard espression, or a hard working to get into his character. I've seen a 10 Brad's movies, but when I looked at him, I thought "that's Achilles", because he was really into it.
I've seen 3 Orlando's movies, and when I looked at him, I thought "That's Orlando Bloom playing Paris, but always Orlando Bloom."

So...

Things I liked?
My favourite scene: Achilles grieving on his own on Hector's body, calling him brother. That's a scene I never thought of, and surprised me a little and pleased me.

Achilles and Hector duelling. The one and only duel I liked.

The fact they cleverly skipped Paris and Helen first encounter. That teh fact that they open the scene on their third or fourth night together. A cunning trick.

The scene in the end, where Paris givs his sword to that boy who turns out to be Aeneas put a smile on my face. It came out of the blue but was nice.

Priam talking to Achilles, even if... well, I'll tell later.

Achilles stripping in his tent after the shore fight, and again, with Briseis. Oh, and Paris standing naked by Helen's bed. I'm not so prudish not to say both the lads were hot. :blush:

That's it. Not much for such a long movie.
You know what it lacked of, according to me? Feeling. I felt like who made this movie just did not give a damn about it. Ok, you got money. Ok, you got skilled actors, a good idea, a good story and the possibility to rule it. I mean, PJ had to be careful shooting Lotr because lots of people read and loved the book and could have killed him. Here, you got a well-known story, allowing you to skip passages. Do it properly!
I just saw a good idea, a good cast and a scaring amount of money wasted in a movie that lacked of personality, passion and eveything needed to keep people awake.

I tend to be kinda indulgent as rating movies, but here I can just give it a 6, maybe 6/7 out of 10.

Too bitchy? What? You want Mena the insane back? Oh, she's here!
She's the one who could not kick the Lotr inside her to a bearable stage as watching Troy...

Scene: Hector talking to Paris:
Did you ever kill a man? No. Did you ever see a man dying? No.
Mena: but he killed 10000000 orcs boy shut up!

Scene: Paris sucks with swordfighting. At the end, light bulb! He gets a bow.
Mena, turning to b/f: OhmyGod I got a f***ing déjà-vu!!!!

Scene: Priam goes to Achille's tent. He takes the hood off his head and their glances meet...
Mena *speaking with Elrond's voice*: "I come on behalf of one whom I love." man, that was just THE SAME! :eek:

Scene: Paris shoots the last arrow and evenyually kills Achilles
Mena *speaking with Gimli's voice*: "That still only counts as one!"


That's all folks! :yay:

*points and snorts at Mena's review*

:lmao:

Heh...

Well said. One of the major reasons I actually loved LOTR is because of the story and the way PJ, the actors and the crew (i.e. everyone!) are so dedicated and developed feelings for each other on set!

If it wasn't for the behind-the-scenes stuff I watched, I'd probably still be just loving the movie and not so much into the fandom.


As to regards those comments about LOTR-alikeness:

Heh, actually I thought that the directing at this point of time was rather... bland, for want of a better word. It just doesn't give that 'whoooaa' feeling unlike in LOTR :S

I agree with you, it does not. But, even withouth the feeling, it was similar enough to make something ring in my head. :laugh:

Alright, so, I saw Troy last Saturday. Keep in mind, I had taken a final that morning, packed all my stuff from my apartment, driven four hours, and moved back to my hometown. Then, couldn't resist going see the movie. At first I thought, perhaps I am tired and that is why I'm not enjoying this film. Then, I realized. I was not enjoying the film because it was not very enjoyable.

I was definitely fidgety throughout the whole thing. I can sit through long movies, but see, they actually have to be entertaining. I thought the story line was rushed. Yes, how could that be with such a long movie? I do not know. They concentrated too much on these large battle shots, and too little on their personal, human details.

As I read Mena's review, I probably agree with every last detail. I was quite disappointed by the lack of influence in the movie from the Greek gods and goddesses. That has always been one of my favorite parts. Now, I'm sure they had their reasons for leaving it all out, but I really wanted to see that beginning shot of Paris picking out of the three goddesses, which was the most beautiful. To me, it would have explained things much better.

Then, we have Orlando's performance. I was very disappointed. Really, he is cute and darling, but that's about it. In no way was he likable in this film. And, I hear you, Paris is not necessarily a likable character. But, I have seen other versions of the story of Troy, where even through all his mistakes, Paris is still a very likable character. In this film, he was reduced to a whining, sniveling coward. And, just basically an annoying younger brother who always gets in your way. Of course, none of that is actually Orlando's fault, that would blamed on the script. Yet, Orlando just didn't have it for some reason in this film. He just seemed sort of bored and blehhh.

As for Eric and Brad, I thought they really did excellent jobs. I just wish they could have developed both of their characters a bit more.

Now, for our Helen of Troy. hmmmm. Well, let me just say this, I think she is a very beautiful woman, but in my mind Helen has always been somewhat of a seductress. She's supposed to be the most beautiful woman in the world, and all men desire her. In this film, I kept finding Helen to look almost childish. The way her hair and makeup were done, she looked like a very young teenager. Not someone that all men would desire. She just seemed too innocent. Perhaps that's just my opinion, though.

All in all, I didn't really like this film, and I won't be going to see it again, as I had previously thought.

Finally, a silly little thing which Mena reminds me of with her Lotr talk. I kept thinking every time Paris was a coward that it really would be nice for Legolas just to show up and start kicking ass with his bow. A fleeting little thought when I got sick of Paris's whining. I'd so rather Legolas. lol!

lmao!! Amen, sistah!

I also spend the first time I saw the movie making fun of Orlando's acting. And then...
I went for a second time (yeah I know, but i'm having exams so give me a break) and then I realised (maybe because I wasn't focusing on the bits of flesh :blush: ) that Orlando actually did a good job. Paris is like early twenties at the start of the story, maybe not even that (does anybody remembers his exact age?) and he's just fallen in love properly for the first time in his life. He knows notting, everything he ever did was playing, dreaming and everybody let him, because he was the second son and wouldn't get the crown. And that's actually what you see, the stupid-little-kid-thing I had been making fun of was the character. And no, as been said before Paris is not a very nice person, he's careless, impulsive and rather selfish, but that's what you see. So at second sight Orlando did pretty well.

:blush: and me laughing at his stupid expresions :blush:

just watch the movie: you would never give him the 27 years he is, he looks and behaves so much younger