Last night I was watching BIAC and it got me thinking a lil bit. You know when they are talking about their roots? Well, Dolph says he had "too many showers with the varsity team" and Mary has no objections. Yet when Andre says he thinks his root is changing after swimming lessons, Mary won't accept it, saying that "That's what little kids do after swimming lessons. They change." But that's what athletes do after practice... they shower, in the same locker room. Isn't it like, the exact same??

On a related topic, do you think people have roots? I hate how people assume that people who are gay have been abused or molested or whatever.... If people really do have roots, what do you think your's is?

that's so coincidental that you posted something about roots! my girl, our friend, and i were watching BIAC two nights ago and we started talking about our "roots" and seeing if we could identify them. i don't really think people have roots... i think it's something you're born with and the so-called root is just the way in which you discovered it. i think my root was all the dancing classes with these really hot girls and the recitals where we'd all be changing in front of each other. my girl thinks her root was to do with hot girls in the pools where she's been a lifeguard at. and our friend's root was basketball practice on a girl's team and the whole locker room experience afterwards.

That is mad smart. You're genius.

I don't know what my root would be..... I need to give it some more thought.

u know when ur parents tell u that boys have kuties.... well there ya go, i believed them and im not a big germ person ^_^

Sally

I think there is an unspoken thing about wrestling team showers... there's towel flicking, there's the all important "too look or not too look" and other things... but I think Mary just didn't like Andre "Actor, Dancer, Homosexual" - she was never going to pass him: he used profanity and double negatives!

I agree with Nicole. I don't see how a root, as in the beginning, of homosexuality can be found, when it's not something that is triggered solely by experience.

I love Andre. He makes me laugh so much.

I don't really think that people would have "roots" either. But it's interesting to see what people think theirs is anyway.

:huh: Yehhh. I think it's interesting too. I just don't seem to have one.

Nah, the system is bull twang
No such thing

:o gasp.

I was going to imply that it was "horse twinkle"... but I didn't want to sound rude.

Has anyone come up with a root yet? I have been thinking, but I got nothing!

Yeah me neither. Because I keep thinking about all these lil things that happened in high school that led to me thinking I was a lesbian but none of them are really a root, per se.

;) Yeh. My mother wasn't married in pants or anything!

(I guess we have our answer)

Sometimes there is no reason for anything.
It's just the way it is.

I agree with that completely. I can think of all of these different times when I was growing up when the lesbian lightbulb should have been blinking above my head but I never really grasped it until a bit later in life. But all of those different events are like.... things that happened that made me go, hmm... but not like, reasons as to why I'd be gay or reasons as to why I would start to think I was gay. They were like the effect, not the cause, you know?

:o *falls to floor and rocks in fetal position*
"... He was once a little green ball of claaaay."

Hooray for getting C+C Music Factory songs in Crys' head! :no:

Kate - don't start with Gumby now! I had almost forgotten him.

...but you should see what Gumby can do today.

lalalalala

I KNOW!! I was gonna some how work that in there... that it was a lyric... but I decided to just see who caught it.

Great song! Natch.

Haha, I remember getting that tape from my brother's ex-girlfriend when I was in, like, grade 4 I think it was. Maybe younger than that, but I don't know. Anyway, my mom eventually got tired of hearing it and made Angie take it back and hide it from me (she lived with us at the time. Knowing that makes the hiding bit make a little more sense). :P

You, of all people, should never forget Gumby.... this topic is about our roots, afterall.

Yes, I played C&C Music factory repeatedly, also... to this day whenever someone says "Girlfriend!" I think "Things that make you go hmmm" - it is a double edged sword of excellent 90's pop, and incredible annoyance... now if I can just stop quoting Young MC's "Bust a Move" I will be halfway to normalcy.

As far as roots go, I think that some people do have them. Now...hear me out...MOST of us homos have no root, and are just born this way. (You know that FABULOUS way) And I agree with the idea that some roots are just what makes you discover or realize your sexuality.
BUT...I think there are those who are so damaged that they choose to be gay. For instance, I have an ex-roomate who was straight at the day is long. But she was gay. She had been seriously hurt by a number of men in her life and can no longer trust them so she stayed with women.

As far as MY root goes...I don't have one...unless you consider that I went to an all girls libral arts college! :whistle:

-Linz

I do agree with that a bit... it's what some people or publications or whatever call "political lesbians"..... That brings up the whole argument of well, are they really lesbians, or is it just a choice? I used to be like... eh, but lately I've been feeling much more tolerant. It's like this. My best friend in the whole world is like, as straight as can be. She is perfectly tolerent of my sexuality, she doesn't freak over it or anything, but it is so nothing that she is even curious about. Girl could get burnt by 500 guys, abused, rejected, whatever.... and she would never consider going to women. Not only does it not turn her on, but it turns her off. She would spend the rest of her like looking for that one nice and possibly non-existant guy than to date women. She would never date again, over being with a woman. Which makes my point... that some women just don't have it in them to be with a woman. Which means that straight women that do are at least inantely bi-sexual.... Because you could take someone like my best friend and have guys like, stomp on her, and it would not make her go to women. So to be able to do that, the girl has to be at least bi-sexual and maybe it was just like, suppressed her entire life or she didn't recognize or realize it.....


But lately I have become way too pissed off about labels. Yeah, me, miss are you gay or bi? as my first question. It's just that......... we're already the minority. Do we have to ostracize other women for not being gay enough? If you like pussy, you're in. It should be that easy.

:no:
I have no idea what you're talking about. Sure you're not mixing it up with your own little fettish and problems?
I reckon so.

Oh, Dash... you're deflecting. :)

Cheers to Graham, and Jeers to labels!

I'm with you on the anti-label...Graham...good call. I still think that some people get "pushed" into the gay though. Just to bring labels in again. LOL.

Another note: Did everyone get the email from Millions for Marriage with the Gay World Commerical? It's so good. Here is the link... www.millionformarriage.org Unfortunately you have to find it yourself cause I can't find a connecting link. It's the new Hospital visitation commercial...call "what if it were a Gay World?" I think. I think that it's very powerful.

Oh...and all you who live in Massachusetts or close by, there is a Boston state house rally on March 11th. I will get info and le you know if anyone is interested.

Here's the link
Well not to the commercial but to the petition

Thanks for finding the link Graham!

This ones easy, it's all my parents fault. I forgot about it for a lot of years, but it all came back to me when I watched But I'm a cheerleader.

When I was a kid I was allowed to watch 9to5, which quickly became my favorite movie. And I'll tell you it's not normal for an 8 year old girl to have that as her favorite movie. A movie staring Lily Tomlin and Jane Fonda. And the plot, they take over the office and kidnap their biggott boss!!

My parents should have know better than teaching my all this liberal bullshit. Now I believe in free love and equlity. Shame on them. :P

:no: parents are always to blame...

Thanks, now I have Dolly Parton's "Nine to Five" in my head... and I only know the first two lines. When I start making up lyrics that rhyme, but don't make sense, I have to call a responsible adult and let them strap me down - otherwise I wake up several days later with traces of gun powder everywhere, and police taking DNA swabs from my mouth.

Is the "responsible adult" bit set in stone? Cause if not, I'd gladly volunteer to be on call to strap you down whenever the need arises. :yes:

If it is a definite prerequisite, well... *thinks* Well, the offer still stands anyway, yeah.

I consider anyone who understands the words "ouch" and "that's not my arm" a responsible adult.

I will take you up on that offer next time I need a strapper... or you know, maybe just one day when I am bored.

I think you are just born gay.