7-5 6-4 0-6 7-6 Tsonga

Thats the scoreline, thats the result.Really sad showing given his performance last year.Looks like he might need to change the team of experts again. :rolleyes:

not the biggest shock of the night, but hideously annoying!!! :banghead: especially as he bagelled him in the third set :shrug:

hey, but at least the Beeb got to announce that he 'crashed out'......

Well, it's messed up my predictions, but I've still got more to go, so I can enjoy this moment!!

Frankly, I hope this silences Judy Murray and the 'Camp Murray' PR machine who saw fit to count their chickens before they have even come close to hatching. By heralding your sons success in two very small tournaments of little consequnce as being down to 'the new team of experts'

New team, worse GS result Andy? Hmmm, seems Mum may need to do a rethink!

Just heard the Beeb 'Misery in Melbourne for Murray'...

I havent even looked at other results yet... something to look forward to I guess if theres worse than Murray going on!

I'm not sure anything will shut the mum up tbh Sara..

and I think the adverts for job vacancies for the beeb come with 'alliteration skills a must!'

I must say that even though I dontlike the lad that much i do recognise his potential and he wouldve provided some great interest in the latter stages of this event but thats now out the window. As for the mum,she reminds me of Alexandria Stevenson's Mum.She had a big mouth.touted her daughter to be great and then Davenport shut her up publically and the daughter achieved nothing.Its going to be interesting now to see what spin Andy will put on this and what he does now in terms of "experts" and coaches.Brad Gilbert must be chuckling his head off! :P

And that stupid big mouthed- grinning faced Rusedski said that Murray is the 3rd best player inthe world... oh well, he probably thought of himself like that as well..

Well, Murray should learn to produce results before he talks about them. Heneman atleast never boasted about his "would be" results..

Sorry I disagree. I don't think we can read much into this loss at all. Face it he had the toughest opener as a top seed and this was the biggest potential upset of the day and shit happens. Tsonga is a fine player, and last night he was consitent, polished and attacking. I've haven't watched it all yet but if I had to pick one fault with Murray it would be that he was a little too passive. And that coudl be down to Murray havign an off day and nothign to do with a team or coach. And let's not forget Tsonga thrashed a certain Mr Henman on his home turf too, not to mention another great player at Queens in the shape of Lleyton Hewitt; now that takes some doing ! :bow:

I'm very dissappointed, in fact it has soured the tournie for me now :( now not to mention screwed all my predictions up! :lol: Anyway Andy will just have to get on with the rest of the year and out it behind him. Worse happens and it's not a major disgrace. I think a few other top plyers have gotten off lightly becuase I beleive Tsonga could have taken out quite a few with the way he played.

Anyway what does Murray's exit mean? Probably that Roddick will get the final with no one to stop him, and what a classi cwe will get if Fed is in it :P ;) :D But in Murrays part of the draw, Gasquet will be relieved, but if Gasquet screws up as I suspect he will at a soem stage we coudl have a mediocre QFist - or alternatively Tsonga so Tsonga nwo has every chance fo making those quarters. And at the bottom half of that section, Youzhny, Wawrinka, Davydenko and Karlovic have much less to worry about with Murray gone. An interestign section fo the draw, and a tough one also even if Murray had stayed in, compared to Nadal's cakewalk :rolleyes:

C'mon - no offence cos I am a huge Tim fan, but the press bigged him up massively and IMO have more right to big up Murray cos for his age he shows greater ptoetntial than TIm did back then, in the scheme of things anyway.

Stupid big mouthed grinning faced Rusedski? :lol: I must laugh, but Rusedski makes seems quite a nice bloke to me and makes me laugh with his big grin :shrug: Each to their own I guess.

Thoughtful points, SB. I've certainly no issue with Murrays tennis - indeed, had predicted him to get to the SF myself. What I find disappointing is the 'Murray Machine' that his own camp feed, when they need to just let his playing do the talking.

Rafa does have the easiest draw, and Tsonga may have been a tricky opener - but Murray does have the tools to dispatch him, and really should have. I think the other side of the draw looks a lot more vicious.

To me it looked like a lot of his balls were coming up short - but seems he's identified it himself, also.

As for Greg - he may make some wild comments at times, but I quite like him as the pundit!! Still, he got told he looked like Herman Munster in 'Dancing on Ice' (which was very mean!) so a bad start for Murray, and also his fan... ;)

I don't dislike Rusedski. HE does seem like a nice bloke, but his comments?? way over the top.. 3rd best player? What about Djokovic?

Yeah I know what you mean. :) I wonder fi the Murray machine maybe feel obliged to get in there first and say their stuff rather than keep quiet and then let the press unleash their venom? You never know. :shrug: Maybe his mum is tryignt to keep them sweet - better than having them tear strips off you after every loss. And yes some balls looked short, liek when Nadal goes crap!

Yeha poor Greg, he took that so well! So Murray's 'fan' has to win Dancing on Ice now :lol:

Fair play :) I'm not saying I agree cos I don't know but maybe he really believes that Murray is No 3 best player?

And he's not far off to be honest. Murray is potentially up there in the top 5 if he has a good season. This wasn't the best of starts though.

The British Press will cane him of course.... they are the ones who have built him up and now they will be the ones to point fingers in all directions before resting them back in the gutter or up their own backsides where they belong....

Poor Andy... he won't need all this negative press at the start of the year. :(

He's clearly a very good player, and even they are entitled to days when they don't fire on all cylinders and their opponents do. Tsonga was a dangerous and powerful opponent and there was always the risk of an upset.

This might have done them all the world of good - he can be under no illusions that mopping up in titchy tournaments is not the same thing as getting into the latters stages of a GS.

MP

I know and i feel sorry for him. After all he's only a young bloke with feelings like everyone else. He's enough to battle with without the press upsetting him. :rolleyes:

I don't think Greg is far wrong either. I said and I still believe Murray will be top 5 this year if injuries are kept at bay and his form stays on. I know we say that of lots of players but he does have extra dimensions to his game compared to Roddick and Davydenko so why not? :shrug: And I personally think Gasquet should be top 5 but I don't know if he will ever be. He's been aroudn a bit longer than Andy and he does strike me that he'll never get over these cylces of ups and downs.

Yep, maybe it was for the best in some ways, it will certainyl teach him to take nothign forgranted, although personally I don't think he has. He must have known Tsonga was a threat. besides Tsonga came out better and more consitent than I expected form the start. He surprised me actually.

Yes SB - But it is this passivitiy that gives him many wins as well. I think some of us have said it times and times again, Murray will always be at the mercy of a good attacking player...if he does not change the fundamentals of his game. Can he do that? I don't know.

What I can see however is that someone like Nalby has the possibility to play like Murray but doesn't rely on it alone. Nalby attacks asa he can and that make him an extremely dangerous player to anybody. It's up to Murray. But I agree that we shoudl not read too much into this match....nothing more that what we knew anyway!

Well first I will say Murray was unluck to get Tsonga. I saw Tsonga last year at Wimbledon destroy Lopez. He's had a lot of injuries apparently but is top 20 material.

Not too impressed with what Murray said in the press conference, he felt he should have won it or at least taken it to 5 sets. Didn't see the match but I heard Murray put in a lot of short second serves.

I'm just not impressed with Murray full stop. The way how he plays is not big league or big boy Tennis. Playing nice shots here and there is not going to take him to the big time. He needs more of a game plan, more power, more endurance.

When I put it that way it looks like he's a long way away from slam semis right now.

here's Murray's post-match interview for those who haven't seen it yet:

Oh I do agree, he needs to attack more, hopefully he will be able to step it up in this department. :ok:

too bad about Andy M. :(

i am just glad that reality blasted Murray's hiperbole balloon , it just goes over the top over and over again...

Really gutted about this result :( Got up early too just so I could catch some of the match.
Such a shame he had to draw Tsonga first round, couldn't have been much worse really. But the rest of the draw would have been really good!
Still feel sad, Oz is pretty much over for me now :(

Yea it's a real shame, it feels like it is over doesn't it? And no Henman either :(

It certainly does, I had visions of the quarters. No Tommy either, means there's no one for me to stay up late for :(

Bit too harsh Laurie.

It's clear everyone inside the game rates Murray.Lest we forget a certain Sampras although winning the US at 19 took another 3 years to really get the hang of this slam tennis thing.
Federer the year he won Wimbledon wasn't the favourite and I remember him being laid out on his back.I think it was the quarter final.
Players develop at different rates and as in Murray's case he can play a number of shots,so maybe his game won't come together for a while.

I agree he needs more power in his game more frequently,and I have to say his second serve is pretty weak for this level,not enough speed or depth.

Give him 2 years and even now he is obviously an elite player, and then you can talk about him in a more enlightened manner.

Fair enough. I heard what he said on the radio - but they played only some of what he said in isolation. This is the whole transcript.

Let's just say that this loss will hopefully open his eyes with what really needs to be done if he wants to become a great player.

You are a gentleman sir,and on second reading I hope my last sentence doesn't sound too terse.

A few comments on Tsonga from Murray:

Murray professed puzzlement at the thigh complaint from which Tsonga appeared to be suffering. "I've never had cramp where I've not been able to serve and then next time been able to serve at 210 kilometres [130 miles] per hour," he said. "He hit one [smash] jumping like Michael Jordan. I don't know what the problem was, whether it was nerves or what. It can't have anything to do with fatigue or cramp, because cramp doesn't go and come back and go and come back – it stays."

I didn't see the match - did Tsonga call on a trainer? :blink:

Doesn't look too bad now eh?

What are you talking about. This is Andy Murray the guy the british press has run numerous articles on about him becoming no1.......and he crashes out in the first round.

Awful performance. Thats all it is.

Rusedski should now realise that actually Djokovic is the real No3 in the world.. not the muppet Murray!

Murray's loss still looks dodgy to me when judged against the standards he'd like to achieve on what is reputed to be his best surface. That is particularly given that he had his chances which he let go of - Djokovic had similar crunch points during the final but hung on in there very admirably.

I am not a Murray basher, far from it - I want to give him some room to do what I hope that he can. I don't think losing to Tsonga was a disgrace or a really poor sign, equally post mortems should concentrate on the match with Murray, not what Tsonga did later.