14 year old Emily, Sharon's contestant, has just withdrawn from the X-Factor. Apparently the press printed picture of her having a fight with a girl, they were in a headlock pulling hair or something. Her parents said that in the cirumstances, adn given her age and the effect all of this would have on her, they had no choice but to withdraw.

Well this raises interesting issues, there was much debate about whether under 16s should be in the competition, and obviously negative press will hit them harder. I personally felt under 16s was a bad idea s the publicty and pressure, plus rejection, criticism etc would be harder for them to cope with than more mature contestants. Also for the show, Sharon is now down to one contestant who is so far the weakest link, Alisha, havign been in the bottom two twice - will she keep getting saved now for Sharon's sake? She did last week. :rolleyes: And I guess they will have a week missing on the show and have to reschedule to take it up to Christams - unless they were doing a double eviction? :shrug:

anyway you heard it here first on CC bitch :D

X Factor Emily pulls out of show

Emily was the youngest finalist on the ITV1 show
X Factor finalist Emily Nakanda has withdrawn from the show after a video emerged showing her allegedly attacking a teenage girl.
The 15-year-old was seen punching and grabbing the girl by the hair in the video recorded on a mobile phone.

A spokeswoman for the show said as a result of their investigations Emily had chosen to pull out of the contest with immediate effect.

Emily's mentor Sharon Osbourne said she was "deeply saddened" by the situation.

Louis Friberg, Emily's mother, said: "As a family we are heartbroken and are very disappointed with Emily's behaviour, we feel that there is no choice but to withdraw Emily from the competition.

"Emily regrets her actions but there is no way, as a family, we can excuse her behaviour. Emily is very sorry to have let the show, Sharon and the viewers down."

In the statement Ms Friberg also said her daughter and all the family "sincerely apologise" to the girl involved, her school and all the fans that have supported Emily.

Another video emerged earlier this week on You Tube showing Emily and a group of friends laughing and threatening a teenager, while one of the group held what appeared to be a weapon.

The video has since been removed from the website.

Show organisers have said that Emily's withdrawal will not effect the voting on the show this Saturday and one act will still leave the competition.

I knoooow my boss just told me. :o

I literally heard it on the radio and summarised form that. I had just got in and just logged on so thought I'd mention it.

I agree SB having contestants as young as 14 is stupid, how is someone so young supposed to deal with the press, potential fame and money at such a young age?
Many child stars have gone off the rials in later life because they missed out on childhood-youngsters are far more impressionable, and should be left to grow up slowly.

It is rather ironic given Daniel was given the push so Sharon would still have two acts-funny how things work out. :rolleyes:

I know :lol: Maybe the God of X factor is smiling down after all. Now all eh needs to do is strike down Sharon with a bolt of lightning and we'll all eb happy :D

I think the pressure of fame and public exposure is bad enough for any age - I even think 16 is too young for that show - but school children? :yikes: It's one thing to start carvign a career out in music or other public domain form a young age and another to suddenyl just get thrown into the spotlight on a reality T show where you suddenly become one oothe most talked about people in the UK, nto to mention easy pickkings fo rthe press. Any skeletons in the closet will be out all over teh place, and we all have them. God knwos what woudl happen if I was on there. I bet they won't have 14 year olds next year, least I hope not.

Yes how ironic. :rolleyes: I suspect if Sharon's remaining act goes this week, the producers will find something for Sharon to do for the remainder of the series....maybe housekeeper to the remaining contestants :lol: Now THAT would be funny seeing her dusting, hoovering, cleaning the toilets and shopping at Iceland with Kerry Katona maybe :shrug:

:lmaao:

If there IS any real rivalry between Sharon and Danni, expect Danni is pretty happy at present B)

Oh yes, cleaning bogs would be right up her street, shite attracts shite and all. :D I bet she would not know where to begin!

i wonder what they will do this week on the show they can't get rid of another contestant can they? surely they'll be a week ahead if they do that-maybe they could bring Daniel back and give him a decent song. :)

..thats a thought, but don't they sometimes have a week later in comp where they get rid of more than one contestant. One being voted by the viewer and next two lowest go to the panel vote.

:rolleyes: the bottom......of the bowl is a good place to start. :D No longer Mrs O but Mrs Mop. :D

Or Mrs O-verall! :D

They said they will vote someone off as usual. I don't knwo if they were plannign a double eviction, if so I guess they can just send off one. They had a double last year.

On a different note, I am very surprised at this portrayal of Emily - she doesnt come across as the most likeable character with this news does she? Its all been about how young she is, how she nearly died, how nervous, doing her schoolwork - all designed to make us feel the sympathy thing....

now I have an image of someone not very nice at all - I guess I dont know the whole story to these videos that are about - but cant say I am glad she is out if she is truly the type of girl suggested by them...

Yay! She's gone :D roflmao

Was deluded if she thought she was going to win anyway. I've heard camels with more personality :rolleyes:

She seems like a vile child after hearing about this. Mindless thugs dont deserve anything.........

Well I didn't think much of her but she is a kid for god's sake and kids fight. I've had worse done to me at school, and at school I certainly hit a few people - not cos I looked for trouble, i honestly used try and steer clear and do my studies. However, I got picke don because of that as did my best friend so as a result ended up in soem scrapes where I had to fight back. If I were 14 and they filmed that I'm sure I'd look like a terror! :yikes: I also knocked my sister's teeth out once, then again she did worse to me first! We are best friends nwo though! :D

I haven't seen the videos of pictures anyway, so can't really say how bad it is - has anyone seen them?

yep, she has to learn that she has to be a proper popstar before she can spit at and hit people

I really hope people don't vote to keep Aliysha in for Sharon's sake.. I was amazed she actually got to the final in any case.

Perish the thought that ITV would rig the voting.... well, not now anyway

I'd love to see Sharon out early, all she and Louis do are try to gang up on Simon anyway! Although it would be guaranteed that she would vote with Louis..

oh well, if kids fight, then I guess its okay....

I am not saying Emily is the type of character she now seems, and I stated that I didnt know the context behind these videos so it may well be blown out of proportion... however, they are not really going with the 'poor Emily being bullied, stands up for herself' type of line are they? That alone makes me wonder.

And yes, I appreciate that kids fight - I work in a school, I see it on a daily basis and I am never going to take the line that 'kids fight' stance - because I have seen the hurt it can cause. I have a huge hatred of bullying, I live in fear of it happening to my kids and the second video that they mention of Emily with a group of friends, taunting and threatening a teenager sounds like bullying to me...

I really hope that I am wrong about Emily - I liked her when she first auditioned and felt for her, but I stand by my words that if she is, in fact, not the girl they have cleverly edited on tv, then I am glad she is found out and out of the competition.

roflmao Like Cheryl tweedy and a whole host fo others :D

How apt she was about to sing a Bjork song, and got exposed for violence.................

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pYyyqIZTvYY

:bow: roflmao

I know exactly what you mean and I don't recommend bullying. But it does happen everywhere, and not becessarily with kids fighting. It happens in many adult situations too, at work, down the pub, form services and businesses, the governement - it need not involve phsycial fighting but it's just as bad. And ai bet there are loads of people who are famous, in Tv respected or whatever that have done and doen a lot fo harm to others in th eprocess. It won't come out in the same way for them though, as they are cunning people who woudl nto get cuaght hitting someone on a video. And what i meant was, as she is a child and children do get into these kind of things, it does nto necessarily mean she is a bad person, and beign so young and less cunning she will obviously come out of it worse than others. I don't necessariyl think she shoudl eb out fo the competition for it, as I say there are people who do worse and do not lose their opportunites, livelihoods etc. Look at a Kate Moss, what an example to youngsters she is. Doign crack and starving herself and hanging out with low life. And what fo the judge herself, Sharon Osbourne - what kidn fo things has she done I wonder? Stayed with kids ina violent realtionship, her husband was a drug addict, serial adulterer and wife beater. She 's alright though eh. :rolleyes: I just think there should be perspective, and I take more objection to adults behaving badly than kids, as shoudl always be the case due to responsiblity and maturity


On bullying, people watch this for entertainment especially on programmes liek BB. And Sharon has bullied contstants in the past - liek when she got on Steve Brookstein's case in the final, and look how she spoke to Rhyd! It's hardly a shining example beign set already on TV but as usual, make examples of the small fry.

Anyway I don't knwo what she did, no one has really said but for her sake as a youngster trygin to complete and education and carve a career I don't think they shoudl say. I really think having youngsters on there was a bad idea and this is case proven.

roflmao

Its a fair point SB - bullying goes on wherever, and I may be idealistic, but I would like to hope that wherever it is exposed, it gets dealt with - as is the case here. I read a report today that Emily is seen as part of a gang - with a gang name - threatening to carve a boys eyes out... oh, and a member of her gang did appear to be holding a weapon... thats not your normal playground bullying. The second incident appeared to be an unprovoked attack as well - a case of happy slapping if you will... Yes, shes not the only one doing it, but that is not an excuse. Just cos she is not cunning enough to not get caught doesnt give her a right to stay in the competition!

Throughout, I have reiterated that I dont know the actual truth behind these incidents and, therefore, could be doing her an injustice. I am merely commentating on the matter as it is presented - and that is currently a girl who thinks attacking other people is okay and is happy for her mates to film her at it at the same time. I have no time for that type of person, whether she is in good company with other celebs or not.

In the case of taking objection when adults behave more badly than kids, well, my sense of perspective depends on the actual behaviour, Kate Moss ruining herself with crack and not setting a good example to others doesnt compare to the story I heard yesterday about teenagers who objected being asked to stop throwing eggs at a house on halloween and beat the person who asked them to stop with scaffolding poles...

"And Sharon has bullied contstants in the past - liek when she got on Steve Brookstein's case in the final"

I agree, however i reckon if Sharon hadn't done that, G4 would've won........

*MUTTERS*

" I heard yesterday about teenagers who objected being asked to stop throwing eggs at a house on halloween and beat the person who asked them to stop with scaffolding poles..."

*shakes head and hopes you heard wrongly, but suspects otherwise*

Nothing wrong beign idealistic :) - I used to be moreso but with age and experience it has changed a bit. I guess what I am trying to say is that yes, if she was bad send her home, BUT there are plenty of others out there in the limelight who are bad and to me that is hypocrysy, and I HATE that as you might have noticed. ;) I do agree with dealign with isolated incidents as they arise, but I also tend to take a broader overview and also get concenred for fairness in all this - as in Kate Moss gets to carrry on with a glitterign career when the woman is clearly a vile exampel to the youth of today and part fo what si wrogn with thsi world, and a teenager who is not privilideged like Moss gets shit right away - and before we even know the facts. I'm making no judgement on Emily as we don't know all the facts, but I'm just drawign comaprisons and looking at the whole thing. Hoep that makes sense, I'm a bit tired and rambling on - as usual! :D

I don't agree with what the Halloween kids did, trust me I've had a lot of trouble form kids as you know, luckily I didn't get hit with poles and that is a bad reflection on today's society that more and more incidents of this kind do occur. But I personally feel more concerned about the impact of big role models whose negative effects are much more wide reaching - and the fact that we allow this to happen when we coudl do more about it. That doesn't mean I am not outraged and in total sympathy with the poor person who was attacked by kids though. As you know I was involved in an attack on my partner (nto kids but youngsters on drugs and booze) and I was absolutely terrified, I got hit by one fo them and there was a right fracas in which I wrestled to the ground with one to get a mobile phone to call for help. Took me ages to get over that, and violence is terrible - I am not condoning it at all.

Maybe the way kids fight today is diffetrent to what it was when I was at school? It was part and parcel of your education back then, if it happened parents and teachers did not rush in and pamper you, it was kind of the rites of passage of growing up and toughening up - I remeber being told off for nto fighting back when I was beat up at school once - and that is not such a bad thing IMO. Certainly taught me to fight my own battles. Never saw weapons, happy slapping or whatever they do now though. And I never picked on anyone violently, although I admit to a few things I did for revenge but t doesn't mean I am bad - I went to a very tough school! It wasn't easy beign the brainiest person there believe me! And as I said, i wonder if I'd have been an the x-factor in the past and someone filmed me in a fight and I got a bad press and lost my career, would that have been fair? No. I guess we'll have to see how ba dEmily really was to judge. I actualyl was never a bully.

There's other stuff to consider too liek peer pressure - some kids get involved with bullies for social acceptance, fear etc. It happened to me and I soon got out of it when i realised. I guess it's tough tto tackle these problems and I bet you see a lot of it in your job, and you are much better qualified to speak on what happens today than me as I have no involvement with schools at all. I used to work as a volunteer but packe din cos the kids were - ahem - a bit violent! :yikes: .

I was wondering the same - did she turn them in favour of Steve? Bizarre really as neither act was hers but she sure behaved disgracefully when she ripped him to shreds in front of millions of the British public. She got so personal, even made out he was a fake and said something about his car! :yikes: He was quite upset, and it was very nasty. Total b*tch really, and pickign on those who are in a lesser position and trying to make them crack - bullying plain and simple. In fact I would not care of she got happy slapped, or egged on Halloween. I'd do it myself if I could :D

ah, but there in lies my problem with Emily and her exposure - X Factor watched by many, many young ones - my two love it - Emily is not currently a role model I want them following. Mini is learning all about media at the school at the moment, he will read this stuff about Emily - imagine if he read what she had done and yet saw her go unpunished and allowed to try for a glittering career and earn pot loads of cash... I would be fighting a losing battle with him over right and wrong...

I agree that without knowing the whole story this could be considered very unfair - but tbh, her own parents have said nothing more than they are ashamed of her behaviour.. some forums I have seen discussing it say she may even had had a community order to serve or something? Its probably all hearsay, but unless she comes right out and tells me different, I cant do anything than base my opinion on the facts as they have been presented before me - and that is what makes me feel she does not deserve to stay.

Its interesting that you feel she should be allowed a second chance and all that, but attack Kate Moss - a girl plucked from obscurity, thrown into huge media spotlight, the pressure of fame, the pressure of staying in the public eye and no doubt, given the world she moves in - plenty of peer pressure... I grant that she is older now, but wonder how much she has been allowed to actually mature from those teen years? And why should maturity automatically ensure you behave proper? These are things learnt at an early age - certainly before reaching the age Emily is now, so I think if you are going to allow one to make mistakes, you should allow another. Like you, I am just drawing comparisons - its not something I have contemplated before :) And by the way, that is meant in no way to be defending Kate Moss - not a fan of the skinny mare in any fashion!

I certainly never meant to suggest you would condone what those teenagers did either - I know you have been the victim of such violence before now, as have I in a way that will haunt me for ever - but I see it more as a reflection of how people are allowed to behave today rather than the role models they grow up with... Like you say, I work in a school and sometimes I am so shocked at how much kids get away with - not because teachers are soft but, for whatever reason, kids do not see loss of lessons as a deterent - and detentions or exclusions are all the school can do. That said, I dont know the answer because I dont think I would agree with any teacher giving my children six of the best either! So am not about to advocate the return of the cane... but it is true that the certain fear and respect kids used to have in school is long gone.

Also, I would say that fighting within schools has probably moved on from your day and my day SB. I am fortunate to have never been bullied at school but I knew it went on. But it was... I dunno, fairer? :shrug: Fighting today is more likely to involve weapons... and if happening outside of school - probably not a case of one on one but ten on one - a bit like one of the videos of Emily has been suggested as being...

Again, peer pressure can play its part and I doubt we will ever really know whether Emily was willing accomplice or ring leader.. but there is always choice. There is a difference between defending yourself and attacking others weaker than you - you yourself said you deplore it, as much as many of us do I am sure. And, this is why, for now, I am happy to see her go. I would love to be proved wrong - you know what a soft touch I am! I cried when I heard her story - I willed her on at bootcamp and at Sharons, despite her continuely cocking it up and clearly not being the best - and that could be another reason I feel so strongly at the moment - because I feel duped by this girl. Which is why, I am happy to be proved wrong - but honestly? Even if she starts doing the rounds about how she was bullied herself, it was peer pressure etc, a part of me will never quite trust her again.

and the frightening story of the man attacked

BBC Report

You've made an excellent post :) I really woudl like to reply to it when I am more with it, so I will try to do so tomorrow or Monday. As you've made a lot of effort I did nto want you to think I'd ignored it. And I've had my first two Buds for a week so it's goen to my head already, sad lightweight I am!

That's terrible, adn sadly that kind fo stuff is a regular thing it seems. I had eggs one Halloween, plus pickled onions thrown in my downstaris loo window, stolen decorations, they burst my baloons too. I never go tattacked, but I bloody knew it was the neighbours cos I heard the kids run down th ealley to their back yard. It did freak me out though. I guess I a lucky ti probably was my neighbours cos at least I knew the cause and it got dealt with. Had ti been strangers casing em like this case I'd have been scared.

Must admit given that I am a person who is mad on Halloween and does the full monty of decs and is known as the Hallwoeen Queen in my road :D I was worried abotu decorating thsi year in case it drew attention to me. However, luckily we ha dthe police paradign on Halloween and they seemed transfixed by my house - we even exchanged waves with me in vampire make up and I never got arrested ! :D - so I felt quite comfortable. I did get soem lads tinight actualyl makign silly noises when I was in my front yard and stupidly I was so irritated by them I calle dthem stupid w*nkers! Not a god move, but I had just had a bad conversation on the phone. They did scarper mind!

awww no probs hun - glad you are having a nice evening :hug:

you must post on the actual song thread though so I know what to expect from them all - I havent watched it this evening as Mr Pebs is out and we taped it to all watch together!

:( its sad that you had to think about whether to go for it this year as there may be unwanted attention - and I am sorry to hear that you have had trouble before. I am glad the police kept an eye on the place though!

Actually, talking of teenagers and trick or treating - I was discussing this with Mr Pebs when we were out with the pebblettes on halloween. We only did five houses - all people I knew and had previously arranged it with - but was aware of kids going up to all houses - some who didnt have pumpkins and stuff outside so may not have wanted to answer the door - which I am not sure is right. Its certainly not something I would want my two doing - but the thing that amazed me was seeing a group of teenagers going round. I dont know how you feel about it - but I think once they have left primary school, kids shouldnt really go round trick or treating because, quite frankly, a group of teenagers on your door can be rather intimidating? :shrug:

And this story certainly didnt make me feel any happier about it.

It's not suc a nice evening tbh, it's a chill after argument with George, his sister, and logn chat to mate on phone! Still nice to have a Budvar and nwo I have X-factor all to myself :D I've onyl seen half of it, no idea who goes off yet. Rhyd is on, quite bizare but he's great IMO. I might run off with him if Geroge and his bloody family don't sort their falmign lives out! :D

:blink:

:hug: :hug:

if you run off with him, expect to be 'wooed' every night in a most dramatic fashion and spend every night in a four poster bed! He just has too doesnt he? :P

But on serious note, I hope its all sorted soon hun :hug:

Totally agree. I do ti for little uns and I've had the same kids and their parents come for years - as far back as 2000 in fact. I do ti for them, they love ti and I have a great time. Thsi littel boy ran into my house and was going 'oooh look ... spiders ... daddy skulls!" he di dthe same last year. And It's nice to have the same folk coem back and compliment you on beign the best house in the area and askign you where you get your horror movie posters form etc - I copy 'em and cut them otu myself. And do stencils etc. I love the craftign aspect. :D My best trick or treater was a family with a dog - it was liek a huskie with flashign ears on and a neon rope knecklace! it snatched the sweets as I was givngin them to th ekids! :D

I've had the dodgy teenager sbefore though - they knicked stuff form the porch once, a plastic axe ans other stuff. :( And this wierd guy kept comign back but I got rid. I also had late ngith knocks from lads over 20, and ignored them. But what i now do is have the open door as it were form say 5pm till abotu 7.30/8.00pm and then go out. We did that this year, went for a quick drink and came back after 10.30 so if anyoen dodgy tirned up they got no answer. mayeb the odd kid was dissappointed but it's safer that way. And I reckon most bona fide families come before 8pm anyway. I actually dressed up cos last year I did nto and got complaints! :yikes:

I have to say I agree abotu who you approach - I don't think you shoudl knock unless they have at least one decoration or pumpkin up. With ym house I can hardly NOT trick or treat ao i buy plenty of sweets and put them on my trolley by the door to be prepared. . Have to say the doorbell ha snto been ringing so often as it did 4 years back - it wa smanic! But now I sem to get decent folk only and that is good. I did 50 sweet bags btw, so that is a fair amount.

Thanks Pebs :hug: Bleive me I am trying, as is my friend who I've been talkign to, he's a good ear bless him. It's just stressful as I'm sure you know.

Oh yes, give me the four poster, candleabra, champagne in skull goblets and a bi gflash of lighting as th window opens! Oh and red velvet carpets! roflmao I'm sad, I have a soft spot for someone none fancies and everyoen thinks is gay! I wa snever very conventional in my tastes. :cheers:

:lmaao: you and I obviously had the same idea about Rhydian - thats the only way I could picture him being - you have him spot on!

well, I am glad you have a good friend who you can chat it all over with - sometimes, thats the only thing that can help - just so you can get it out of your system and then face the problem with fresh eyes as it were :hug:

I hope you are now suitably chilled enough to enjoy the rest of your evening and indulge in the rest of X Factor and X rated fantasies about Rhydian ;) :devil:

I must away as am expecting Mr Pebs back from his gig anytime now so will wish you a good night hun - and Buttons if she is still around - and hope to chat to you later.

Night lovey.

:hug:

Oh I knwo men too well Pebs ;) :D

Mr Pebs out at gigs? Does he play or watch? I imagien him in spnandex Darkness trousers with a guitar. :D

Well I'm off too, the sofa is beckonign to complete the x-factor experience and given I cannto type I think ti is for the best.

Night , sweet dreams and al, don't have the night mares I had last night after a horror movie :yikes:

Nigth :hug: