Title: What's been best slam this year?
Description: Best slam so far...
MrInvisible - September 3, 2007 03:42 PM (GMT)
OK, this is a bit presumptious given that US Open is still being played, but you can always wait until after US Open is over before voting.
MrInvisible - September 3, 2007 03:43 PM (GMT)
I vote US Open, its been packed full of great matches so far, and even if the rest of the tournament is more dull, I reckon it'll have been better than the rest of the slams of 2007.
liam_valid - September 3, 2007 04:27 PM (GMT)
Big Al - September 3, 2007 09:22 PM (GMT)
AO for me as well. Its always been underated compared with the others IMO, but this year we had great matches like Nadal-Murray,Nadal-Gonzales,Federer -Roddick .
Big Al - September 3, 2007 09:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Big Al @ Sep 3 2007, 10:22 PM) |
| AO for me as well. Its always been underated compared with the others IMO, but this year we had great matches like Nadal-Murray,Nadal-Gonzales,Federer -Roddick . |
Ive only seen a bit of the US so cant really comment , and its not even at the QF stage yet so yes does seem a bit presumptuous to call it the best .
Tenez - September 3, 2007 10:03 PM (GMT)
I voted Wimbledon but frankly, the USO is always the best to provide good match ups between the different players' styles.
vivahate - September 4, 2007 04:21 AM (GMT)
who voted for the FO :hide:
Dark_Necrofear - September 4, 2007 07:40 AM (GMT)
Defeinetly Wimbledon! :ok:
Scotsguy - September 4, 2007 08:29 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (vivahate @ Sep 4 2007, 05:21 AM) |
| who voted for the FO :hide: |
I was about to say that, we had no classic women's matches and the mens was predictable the whole way through :rolleyes: And it rained loads....
Sam - September 4, 2007 09:06 AM (GMT)
Wimbledon was the best slam for me
ObL!v!0N - September 4, 2007 09:30 AM (GMT)
The Australian Open is always the best. Wimbledon got boring after the first week for me, and they have too much emphasis on the Brits, rather than talking about good players :rolleyes:
The US Open I can only see what sky sports/eurosport put on, so I haven't really watched anything good as of yet.
The French Open was bloody crap (as usual)
barrystar - September 4, 2007 10:10 AM (GMT)
Whoah - hold your horses everyone. We've still got 3 more rounds to go before we can judge the US Open. Top half of the women's draw in particular is very interesting, so too is the bottom half of the men's (it will be a real shock to me if Fed & Kuznetzova don't get out of their halves)
Of the three that have been so far, I have Aus/Wimbledon French - Aus & Wimbledon threw up some cracking tense matches and some sublime play. It is difficult to separate them - only the rain problems resulting, amongst other things, in Nadal only facing an exhausted Djokovic in the SF rather spoiled Wimbledon for me.
In both the men's and the women's RG has a sort of inevitability about it that is rather boring these days.
Tenez - September 4, 2007 11:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (barrystar @ Sep 4 2007, 11:10 AM) |
| In both the men's and the women's RG has a sort of inevitability about it that is rather boring these days. |
I still do not see this as "inevitabilty", like I do not see Fed winning the USO or Wimbledon as inevitabilty. For me the Federer/nadal matches on clay are the most interesting ones they are the only real challenge Federer is facing on the circuit. All the other matches on the tour are his to lose. Unfortuately those clay mathes betwen thoe two hardly ever deliver. The FO final was much closer than the score tells it...And I definetly look forward to another match up next year.
barrystar - September 4, 2007 11:29 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tenez @ Sep 4 2007, 11:21 AM) |
| QUOTE (barrystar @ Sep 4 2007, 11:10 AM) | | In both the men's and the women's RG has a sort of inevitability about it that is rather boring these days. |
I still do not see this as "inevitabilty", like I do not see Fed winning the USO or Wimbledon as inevitabilty. For me the Federer/nadal matches on clay are the most interesting ones they are the only real challenge Federer is facing on the circuit. All the other matches on the tour are his to lose. Unfortuately those clay mathes betwen thoe two hardly ever deliver. The FO final was much closer than the score tells it...And I definetly look forward to another match up next year.
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The main 'inevitability' is that it is a Fed/Nadal final - for me the second 'inevitability' is that Nadal wins. I know much less about tennis than you, Tenez, but I have watched both matches and to me Fed never looked like getting the required 3 sets.
Tenez - September 4, 2007 11:38 AM (GMT)
No excuse Barry! You know as much as me if not more!!! ;)
The first set was very close and had Roger converted 1 or 2 of these 10 BPs!!!!, He could have been 2 sets to love...and over a 5 set match, my money would have been on Federer!
barrystar - September 4, 2007 11:54 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tenez @ Sep 4 2007, 11:38 AM) |
No excuse Barry! You know as much as me if not more!!! ;)
The first set was very close and had Roger converted 1 or 2 of these 10 BPs!!!!, He could have been 2 sets to love...and over a 5 set match, my money would have been on Federer! |
But Tenez, the trouble with an analysis like that is that it assumes that had the first set gone differently the second set would nonetheless have been the same as it was.
If Fed had won the first set the match might just as easily have followed the pattern of 2006, when Nadal bit straight back after losing the first set heavily.
The only thing we know for certain is that if Fed had won the first set both men would have gone into the second with different mindsets - Nadal's record as a real fighter with the superior clay court record suggests to me he would have been more, not less, likely to recover the second set than to lose a second in a row.
Wise_Analyst - September 4, 2007 11:54 AM (GMT)
It depends how we judge the tournament, I suppose. Most tournaments are eventually judged by their eventual winner, and on those terms, the Australian and the French bored me because there was no way Federer or Nadal were ever going to lose those finals. However, at Wimbledon we had a very exciting final which Nadal should have won, and this year a final between Federer and Nadal/Djoko would be far from a foregone conclusion... so assuming we have a competitive final this year, I'd say the latter two Slams of the year have been the best.
If we judge in terms of overall quality and excitement, there are often plenty of early matches which are forgotten quite quickly due to the relative obscurity and lack of subsequent impact of the players involved. But again, I don't remember too many of these at the Australian or the French (which is obviously partly down to them being further in the past). At Wimbledon, however, we had several - Henman vs Moya, Gasquet vs Roddick, Djoko vs Baghdatis and then the aforementioned final. And at this US Open we've had a fair few already - Haas vs Blake, Moya vs Kohlschreiber and Djoko vs Stepanek.
So either way, I'd say a tossup between Wimbledon and US Open - will make a final decision when this one finishes. :D
barrystar - September 4, 2007 12:01 PM (GMT)
I'd say that's fair enough Wise, but at the Australian Open Murray v. Nadal was good, as was Fed v. Roddick (for quality of play or choking ;) ), Haas v. Davydenko, Grosjean played in a couple of decent 5-setters, and Gonzalez played some exceptional matches I thought.
Tenez - September 4, 2007 12:05 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (barrystar @ Sep 4 2007, 12:54 PM) |
| QUOTE (Tenez @ Sep 4 2007, 11:38 AM) | No excuse Barry! You know as much as me if not more!!! ;)
The first set was very close and had Roger converted 1 or 2 of these 10 BPs!!!!, He could have been 2 sets to love...and over a 5 set match, my money would have been on Federer! |
But Tenez, the trouble with an analysis like that is that it assumes that had the first set gone differently the second set would nonetheless have been the same as it was.
If Fed had won the first set the match might just as easily have followed the pattern of 2006, when Nadal bit straight back after losing the first set heavily.
The only thing we know for certain is that if Fed had won the first set both men would have gone into the second with different mindsets - Nadal's record as a real fighter with the superior clay court record suggests to me he would have been more, not less, likely to recover the second set than to lose a second in a row.
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Well it is only speculation, I agree, but I thought Fed played pretty well for 2 sets but very unluckily (in a way), he won only one out of those 2.
The point remains in my view, that Nadal on clay is really the only challenge left in Tennis for Federer. The rest of the year is about delivering and avoiding the "accident".
Wise_Analyst - September 4, 2007 12:09 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (barrystar @ Sep 4 2007, 01:01 PM) |
| I'd say that's fair enough Wise, but at the Australian Open Murray v. Nadal was good, as was Fed v. Roddick (for quality of play or choking ;) ), Haas v. Davydenko, Grosjean played in a couple of decent 5-setters, and Gonzalez played some exceptional matches I thought. |
Murray vs Nadal was not close to the league of the more recent Slam matches, in my opinion. For a start Nadal was slightly injured and not at his best, and after the third set Murray just fell apart and barely won another game. It was entertaining enough, but comparing it to the other ones I've mentioned does them a bit of an injustice, I feel.
Likewise, the more straightforward matches - but that's a whole other debate which got covered in another thread, i.e. what makes a great match - one great performance, or two? For me, I'll have a thrilling five setter over an anti-climactic straight setter any day. And for every Grosjean match at the AO, take a Wawrinka one in New York.
trisco - September 4, 2007 12:17 PM (GMT)
Definately Wimbledon... even with all the rain the last week or last few days certainly made up for it and there was some absolute corkers of matches all the way through.
fedrules - September 4, 2007 02:40 PM (GMT)
Hey Tenez,don't remind me of all those missed opportunities in Paris. :( I voted for Wimbledon but mainly because I love the look of grass,the traditional feel to the tournament and enjoy the commentaries of the former greats like Mac,Becker etc on the BBC.The Fed-Nadal final was a real nail-biter too.However,as Fed has already dropped two sets in the US Open so far,I'm imagining the final will be pretty exciting too.The Fed-Roddick match could be a close one with the crowd behind Andy as well,although Roddick usually manages to end up looking like a second rate player compared to Roger. ;)
from a Swiss point of view am hoping Stan can get the better of Chela today. :pray:
Sam - September 4, 2007 02:43 PM (GMT)
To be fair, having seen the matches yesterdya, you would have to say that pound for pound the most excitement is to be found at the US Open (usually the men)
Tenez - September 4, 2007 03:07 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (fedrules @ Sep 4 2007, 03:40 PM) |
Hey Tenez,don't remind me of all those missed opportunities in Paris. :( I voted for Wimbledon but mainly because I love the look of grass,the traditional feel to the tournament and enjoy the commentaries of the former greats like Mac,Becker etc on the BBC.The Fed-Nadal final was a real nail-biter too.However,as Fed has already dropped two sets in the US Open so far,I'm imagining the final will be pretty exciting too.The Fed-Roddick match could be a close one with the crowd behind Andy as well,although Roddick usually manages to end up looking like a second rate player compared to Roger. ;) from a Swiss point of view am hoping Stan can get the better of Chela today. :pray: |
HI Fedrules - on the contrary! Let's not forget that Fed shoulda/coulda/woulda won in Paris!! ;) and.......that he WILL one day take the saladier away. :pray:
I like Stn too and am glad he is doing so well after his injury.
Big Al - September 4, 2007 08:20 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tenez @ Sep 4 2007, 04:07 PM) |
| QUOTE (fedrules @ Sep 4 2007, 03:40 PM) | Hey Tenez,don't remind me of all those missed opportunities in Paris. :( I voted for Wimbledon but mainly because I love the look of grass,the traditional feel to the tournament and enjoy the commentaries of the former greats like Mac,Becker etc on the BBC.The Fed-Nadal final was a real nail-biter too.However,as Fed has already dropped two sets in the US Open so far,I'm imagining the final will be pretty exciting too.The Fed-Roddick match could be a close one with the crowd behind Andy as well,although Roddick usually manages to end up looking like a second rate player compared to Roger. ;) from a Swiss point of view am hoping Stan can get the better of Chela today. :pray: |
HI Fedrules - on the contrary! Let's not forget that Fed shoulda/coulda/woulda won in Paris!! ;) and.......that he WILL one day take the saladier away. :pray:
I like Stn too and am glad he is doing so well after his injury.
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I believe we still haevnt seen the best of Federer at the French and he will win it one day .
dl04 - September 4, 2007 09:08 PM (GMT)
Well i'm biased and will say Wimbledon, mainly due to the Godess winning her 4th title :wub: :bow:
Biasness aside, there were some great matches, particulary on the men's side. The gasquet/Roddick match was quite simply amazing tennis, especially from the Frenchman :bow:
The women's side has the most enthralling match of the tourny too when Bartoli upset Henin, plus Serena's dramatic fightback against Hantuchova :bow:
The Dav - September 4, 2007 10:20 PM (GMT)
I loved the AO, Serena's run was so exciting, and Wimbledon had some great matches, and I found a new fave in big bad Marion roflmao
dl04 - September 4, 2007 10:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (The Dav @ Sep 4 2007, 10:20 PM) |
| I loved the AO, Serena's run was so exciting, and Wimbledon had some great matches, and I found a new fave in big bad Marion roflmao |
' Big bad Marion'
That'll catch on roflmao
I loved Serena's run too, just amazing watching her mediocre opening rounds to sheer perfection against Sharapova :bow:
Venus's run at Wimby was so :yahoo: :yahoo:
The Dav - September 4, 2007 10:28 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (dl04 @ Sep 4 2007, 11:24 PM) |
| QUOTE (The Dav @ Sep 4 2007, 10:20 PM) | | I loved the AO, Serena's run was so exciting, and Wimbledon had some great matches, and I found a new fave in big bad Marion roflmao |
' Big bad Marion'
That'll catch on roflmao
I loved Serena's run too, just amazing watching her mediocre opening rounds to sheer perfection against Sharapova :bow:
Venus's run at Wimby was so :yahoo: :yahoo:
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Maria won't have fond memories of the Slams in '07 that's for sure :unsure: roflmao
dl04 - September 4, 2007 10:29 PM (GMT)
Ah well, at least the real elite reclaimed their rightful slams :D :bow:
Big Al - September 4, 2007 10:40 PM (GMT)
Wimby has an atmosphere and tradition that the others cant match .. this year was just spoilt by the weather .
Sam - September 5, 2007 10:39 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (dl04 @ Sep 4 2007, 10:08 PM) |
Well i'm biased and will say Wimbledon, mainly due to the Godess winning her 4th title :wub: :bow:
Biasness aside, there were some great matches, particulary on the men's side. The gasquet/Roddick match was quite simply amazing tennis, especially from the Frenchman :bow:
The women's side has the most enthralling match of the tourny too when Bartoli upset Henin, plus Serena's dramatic fightback against Hantuchova :bow: |
Totally agree about Gasquet-Roddick, I was there, that match was sensational! :D
Serena against Hantuchova? Come on, she had 15 minutes of cramps that all :rolleyes:
Sam - September 5, 2007 10:41 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (The Dav @ Sep 4 2007, 11:28 PM) |
| QUOTE (dl04 @ Sep 4 2007, 11:24 PM) | | QUOTE (The Dav @ Sep 4 2007, 10:20 PM) | | I loved the AO, Serena's run was so exciting, and Wimbledon had some great matches, and I found a new fave in big bad Marion roflmao |
' Big bad Marion'
That'll catch on roflmao
I loved Serena's run too, just amazing watching her mediocre opening rounds to sheer perfection against Sharapova :bow:
Venus's run at Wimby was so :yahoo: :yahoo:
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Maria won't have fond memories of the Slams in '07 that's for sure :unsure: roflmao
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And I bet Serena will also have "untouchable" Henin's picture on a dartboard too roflmao
dl04 - September 5, 2007 10:45 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sam @ Sep 5 2007, 10:39 AM) |
| QUOTE (dl04 @ Sep 4 2007, 10:08 PM) | Well i'm biased and will say Wimbledon, mainly due to the Godess winning her 4th title :wub: :bow:
Biasness aside, there were some great matches, particulary on the men's side. The gasquet/Roddick match was quite simply amazing tennis, especially from the Frenchman :bow:
The women's side has the most enthralling match of the tourny too when Bartoli upset Henin, plus Serena's dramatic fightback against Hantuchova :bow: |
Totally agree about Gasquet-Roddick, I was there, that match was sensational! :D
Serena against Hantuchova? Come on, she had 15 minutes of cramps that all :rolleyes:
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Still drama though Sam, especially when it looked like Dani could just capitalise thereafter :unsure:
Sam - September 5, 2007 10:54 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (dl04 @ Sep 5 2007, 11:45 AM) |
| QUOTE (Sam @ Sep 5 2007, 10:39 AM) | | QUOTE (dl04 @ Sep 4 2007, 10:08 PM) | Well i'm biased and will say Wimbledon, mainly due to the Godess winning her 4th title :wub: :bow:
Biasness aside, there were some great matches, particulary on the men's side. The gasquet/Roddick match was quite simply amazing tennis, especially from the Frenchman :bow:
The women's side has the most enthralling match of the tourny too when Bartoli upset Henin, plus Serena's dramatic fightback against Hantuchova :bow: |
Totally agree about Gasquet-Roddick, I was there, that match was sensational! :D
Serena against Hantuchova? Come on, she had 15 minutes of cramps that all :rolleyes:
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Still drama though Sam, especially when it looked like Dani could just capitalise thereafter :unsure:
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I have to say I always thought Serena would win that! And what she was trying to do with the toilet break was a bit of a disgrace really wasn't it? :rolleyes:
dl04 - September 5, 2007 10:57 AM (GMT)
It's all tennis politics Sam ;) roflmao
I thought Venus vs Morigami was quite dramatic too.........
For me anyway :yikes: :yikes: :peek:
greasepipe - September 5, 2007 03:57 PM (GMT)
Based on matches i've seen so far, this open is the best slam of the year by a 1000 miles. But there's a smell of retirement in the air for the coming matches, so let's hope everyone stays healthy and the level of play will maintain.