Title: Here's some gossip for you all...
SerenaW19 - August 22, 2007 04:58 PM (GMT)
Grand Slam draws are fixed to stop Serena dominating again.
The only three players who have ever had both the mental capacity and the game to unsettle Serena on a consistent basis are Jennifer Capriati, Venus Williams and Justine Henin. Now she has drawn one of them in the QF or earlier in 7/12 Grand Slams since Wimbledon 2003. :ban:
Gav - August 22, 2007 05:20 PM (GMT)
I clicked on this expecting to see some gossip!
All I see is paranoia!
She has a bad run of draws, of that there is no doubt. It's a shame she has not been able to play more tournaments to get up with Justine at the top of the rankings and then this would not happen.....then again I thought it was "just a matter of time" before she was back at the top :-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/6236551.stm :P :P
Sorry, I just had to rib you on that...
In all truth, I would back to her to beat Justine at the US should they both make it to the Quarters....
SerenaW19 - August 22, 2007 06:00 PM (GMT)
Paranoia is a synonym for incontrovertible fact, right? ;)
And in fairness Sereney did say it was "only a matter of time", she didn't specify how long, however she probably would've been better off saying "at some point maybe" roflmao
Gav - August 22, 2007 06:07 PM (GMT)
I would imagine if she does win the US Open she will probably break into the top 3 or 4 wouldn't she? In that case then this won't happen at the GS Events next year. It's a shame these matches are earlier in the tournament then they should be, it really is.
SerenaW19 - August 22, 2007 06:10 PM (GMT)
Top 5 I think maybe top 4, so yeah. She just needs to not get injured again...and actually play tennis!
Queen Justine - August 22, 2007 06:32 PM (GMT)
Life player like fan :rolleyes:
Once again a Williams fan thinks the whole tennis world revolves around the Williams :rolleyes: Just joking :)
It obviously doesn't ..... it revolves around Sharapova because this USO draw takes her easily to the final :angry: :angry: :angry:
SerenaW19 - August 22, 2007 06:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 06:32 PM) |
Life player like fan :rolleyes:
Once again a Williams fan thinks the whole tennis world revolves around the Williams :rolleyes: |
It does :shrug: Williams tennis association? :flirt:
Ok ;)
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| It obviously doesn't ..... it revolves around Sharapova because this USO draw takes her easily to the final :angry: :angry: :angry: |
This isn't news :P
dl04 - August 22, 2007 06:44 PM (GMT)
I was reading this thread thinking that Kournikova was coming back or something roflmao
Then i heard something about winning a slam, so obviously not roflmao
Heninator - August 22, 2007 10:29 PM (GMT)
Well if shes that good she can handle it ;)
Queen Justine - August 22, 2007 10:45 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 10:29 PM) |
| Well if shes that good she can handle it ;) |
roflmao
Exactly ... if the WS are sooooooooo good, why are their fans worrying? :P
I've always thought that but have never said it. :whistle:
Heninator - August 22, 2007 11:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 04:45 PM) |
| QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 10:29 PM) | | Well if shes that good she can handle it ;) |
roflmao
Exactly ... if the WS are sooooooooo good, why are their fans worrying? :P
I've always thought that but have never said it. :whistle:
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Great minds eh :hug:
Queen Justine - August 22, 2007 11:51 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 11:43 PM) |
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 04:45 PM) | | QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 10:29 PM) | | Well if shes that good she can handle it ;) |
roflmao
Exactly ... if the WS are sooooooooo good, why are their fans worrying? :P
I've always thought that but have never said it. :whistle:
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Great minds eh :hug: |
Absolutely :hug: :hug:
I love that Amen smiley :D
Heninator - August 22, 2007 11:57 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 05:51 PM) |
| QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 11:43 PM) | | QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 04:45 PM) | | QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 10:29 PM) | | Well if shes that good she can handle it ;) |
roflmao
Exactly ... if the WS are sooooooooo good, why are their fans worrying? :P
I've always thought that but have never said it. :whistle:
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Great minds eh :hug: |
Absolutely :hug: :hug:
I love that Amen smiley :D
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Good innit!!!!
I nicked it off a football forum im admin on :whistle: :whistle:
but back on topic.....I mean you get what your dealt apart from Maria who seems to get what shes *cough* paid for :whistle:
Queen Justine - August 23, 2007 12:02 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 11:57 PM) |
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 05:51 PM) | | QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 11:43 PM) | | QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 04:45 PM) | | QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 10:29 PM) | | Well if shes that good she can handle it ;) |
roflmao
Exactly ... if the WS are sooooooooo good, why are their fans worrying? :P
I've always thought that but have never said it. :whistle:
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Great minds eh :hug: |
Absolutely :hug: :hug:
I love that Amen smiley :D
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Good innit!!!!
I nicked it off a football forum im admin on :whistle: :whistle:
but back on topic.....I mean you get what your dealt apart from Maria who seems to get what shes *cough* paid for :whistle:
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Admin eh?
Wow ... I'm mixing with the elite :bow: :bow: :bow:
LOL @ your last paragraph. Very true roflmao
Heninator - August 23, 2007 12:08 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 06:02 PM) |
| QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 11:57 PM) | | QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 05:51 PM) | | QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 11:43 PM) | | QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 04:45 PM) | | QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 10:29 PM) | | Well if shes that good she can handle it ;) |
roflmao
Exactly ... if the WS are sooooooooo good, why are their fans worrying? :P
I've always thought that but have never said it. :whistle:
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Great minds eh :hug: |
Absolutely :hug: :hug:
I love that Amen smiley :D
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Good innit!!!!
I nicked it off a football forum im admin on :whistle: :whistle:
but back on topic.....I mean you get what your dealt apart from Maria who seems to get what shes *cough* paid for :whistle:
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Admin eh?
Wow ... I'm mixing with the elite :bow: :bow: :bow:
LOL @ your last paragraph. Very true roflmao
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;) But we both worship someone who is greater yet (JH) so that makes us equal :D
SerenaW19 - August 23, 2007 08:14 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 10:45 PM) |
| QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 10:29 PM) | | Well if shes that good she can handle it ;) |
roflmao
Exactly ... if the WS are sooooooooo good, why are their fans worrying? :P
I've always thought that but have never said it. :whistle:
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I had no idea there was a direct correlation between how good a player was and how much their fans worried. :rolleyes:
Perhaps you should *think* about it some more ;)
yorkshire - August 23, 2007 10:12 AM (GMT)
Don't buy into this lucky draw, easy draw, business.
Surely if a player deserves to win a tournament, they should (in theory) be able to beat anyone else in it, therefore being the best player at that tournament?
Queen Justine - August 23, 2007 10:42 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (SerenaW19 @ Aug 23 2007, 08:14 AM) |
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 10:45 PM) | | QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 10:29 PM) | | Well if shes that good she can handle it ;) |
roflmao
Exactly ... if the WS are sooooooooo good, why are their fans worrying? :P
I've always thought that but have never said it. :whistle:
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I had no idea there was a direct correlation between how good a player was and how much their fans worried. :rolleyes:
Perhaps you should *think* about it some more ;)
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OMG!! Serious much :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Did you not see the :P there or did you chose to ignore it? :rolleyes:
Is it the time of the month or something? :D
Gav - August 23, 2007 11:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (yorkshire @ Aug 23 2007, 11:12 AM) |
Don't buy into this lucky draw, easy draw, business.
Surely if a player deserves to win a tournament, they should (in theory) be able to beat anyone else in it, therefore being the best player at that tournament? |
Yorkshire = voice of reason
GS2 - August 23, 2007 11:58 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gav @ Aug 23 2007, 11:04 AM) |
| QUOTE (yorkshire @ Aug 23 2007, 11:12 AM) | Don't buy into this lucky draw, easy draw, business.
Surely if a player deserves to win a tournament, they should (in theory) be able to beat anyone else in it, therefore being the best player at that tournament? |
Yorkshire = voice of reason
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I see it both ways - yes whoever wins it has to win 7 matches so they deserve it no matter what but some draws can look easier than others.
To win the tournament Justine may have to beat Serena, Venus & Sharapova while Sharapova may have to beat Chakvetadze, Kuznetsova & Justine.
Which looks the harder path on paper?
When we get to the tournament things may work out differently - after all we all expected Bartoli to give Justine no problems at Wimbledon - but looking at the draw I think it's valid to say one players draw looks easier than others.
SerenaW19 - August 23, 2007 12:04 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gav @ Aug 23 2007, 11:04 AM) |
| QUOTE (yorkshire @ Aug 23 2007, 11:12 AM) | Don't buy into this lucky draw, easy draw, business.
Surely if a player deserves to win a tournament, they should (in theory) be able to beat anyone else in it, therefore being the best player at that tournament? |
Yorkshire = voice of reason
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Actually I wouldn't dismiss the importance of a draw so easily. It may not be a major factor in determining who wins a Grand Slam. But neither should it be totally disregarded.
For example this year at Wimbledon, Justine had an emotional three setter with Serena, and by the third set against Bartoli she had virtually nothing left in the tank. That wouldn't have happened if she hadn't faced Serena in the quarters.
It's not about who you face, it's when you face them.
Similarly, FO 2004, Capriati beat Serena at a slam for the first time in three years and it took so much out of her she didn't turn up against Myskina in the semi.
It may not alwaysbe the case, but bad draws CAN have an effect. It's far from as simple as: best player wins regardless.
SerenaW19 - August 23, 2007 12:05 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 23 2007, 10:42 AM) |
| QUOTE (SerenaW19 @ Aug 23 2007, 08:14 AM) | | QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 10:45 PM) | | QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 10:29 PM) | | Well if shes that good she can handle it ;) |
roflmao
Exactly ... if the WS are sooooooooo good, why are their fans worrying? :P
I've always thought that but have never said it. :whistle:
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I had no idea there was a direct correlation between how good a player was and how much their fans worried. :rolleyes:
Perhaps you should *think* about it some more ;)
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OMG!! Serious much :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Did you not see the :P there or did you chose to ignore it? :rolleyes:
Is it the time of the month or something? :D
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I think the more pertinent question is, when isn't it your time of the month?
And no Im at work and the computer isn't showing smileys atm.
Sam - August 23, 2007 12:06 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (SerenaW19 @ Aug 22 2007, 05:58 PM) |
Grand Slam draws are fixed to stop Serena dominating again.
The only three players who have ever had both the mental capacity and the game to unsettle Serena on a consistent basis are Jennifer Capriati, Venus Williams and Justine Henin. Now she has drawn one of them in the QF or earlier in 7/12 Grand Slams since Wimbledon 2003. :ban: |
not really a fix is it roflmao
lalitha - August 23, 2007 04:22 PM (GMT)
For example this year at Wimbledon, Justine had an emotional three setter with Serena, and by the third set against Bartoli she had virtually nothing left in the tank. That wouldn't have happened if she hadn't faced Serena in the quarters.
Spot on!!
The draw does matter.Afterall if you are not really tired by the finals...you are bound to perform better!
Queen Justine - August 23, 2007 10:01 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (SerenaW19 @ Aug 23 2007, 12:05 PM) |
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 23 2007, 10:42 AM) | | QUOTE (SerenaW19 @ Aug 23 2007, 08:14 AM) | | QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 22 2007, 10:45 PM) | | QUOTE (Heninator @ Aug 22 2007, 10:29 PM) | | Well if shes that good she can handle it ;) |
roflmao
Exactly ... if the WS are sooooooooo good, why are their fans worrying? :P
I've always thought that but have never said it. :whistle:
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I had no idea there was a direct correlation between how good a player was and how much their fans worried. :rolleyes:
Perhaps you should *think* about it some more ;)
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OMG!! Serious much :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Did you not see the :P there or did you chose to ignore it? :rolleyes:
Is it the time of the month or something? :D
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I think the more pertinent question is, when isn't it your time of the month?
And no Im at work and the computer isn't showing smileys atm.
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Never .... thank goodness :phew:
Well that's not my problem is it if your computer doesn't show smileys ... there was one there so :P
SerenaW19 - August 23, 2007 10:11 PM (GMT)
Ok then fair enough, it's no big deal anyway :P
Although Im still sure it's a fix roflmao
Dark_Necrofear - August 24, 2007 08:21 AM (GMT)
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| Grand Slam draws are fixed to stop Serena dominating again |
roflmao But if she wants to dominate she might as well start with Justine! ;)
Queen Justine - August 24, 2007 11:23 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dark_Necrofear @ Aug 24 2007, 08:21 AM) |
| QUOTE | | Grand Slam draws are fixed to stop Serena dominating again |
roflmao But if she wants to dominate she might as well start with Justine! ;)
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Didn't you say something similar in the last two slams? :P ;)
BTW if Serena loses again, shall I start an excuses thread beforehand? roflmao :kiss2:
ONLY JOKING
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made it bold and large just in case SW19's computer can't see it :rolleyes: ;)
Dark_Necrofear - August 24, 2007 12:29 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 24 2007, 01:23 PM) |
| QUOTE (Dark_Necrofear @ Aug 24 2007, 08:21 AM) | | QUOTE | | Grand Slam draws are fixed to stop Serena dominating again |
roflmao But if she wants to dominate she might as well start with Justine! ;)
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Didn't you say something similar in the last two slams? :P ;)
BTW if Serena loses again, shall I start an excuses thread beforehand? roflmao :kiss2:
ONLY JOKING
^ made it bold and large just in case SW19's computer can't see it :rolleyes: ;)
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If you cant see that Im joking then dont respond to me coz Im not Bilv buddy.He likes battling with you.I was joking.
On a serious note if she wants to get back to the top she has to beat Justine anyway!
Queen Justine - August 24, 2007 02:03 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dark_Necrofear @ Aug 24 2007, 12:29 PM) |
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 24 2007, 01:23 PM) | | QUOTE (Dark_Necrofear @ Aug 24 2007, 08:21 AM) | | QUOTE | | Grand Slam draws are fixed to stop Serena dominating again |
roflmao But if she wants to dominate she might as well start with Justine! ;)
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Didn't you say something similar in the last two slams? :P ;)
BTW if Serena loses again, shall I start an excuses thread beforehand? roflmao :kiss2:
ONLY JOKING
^ made it bold and large just in case SW19's computer can't see it :rolleyes: ;)
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If you cant see that Im joking then dont respond to me coz Im not Bilv buddy.He likes battling with you.I was joking.
On a serious note if she wants to get back to the top she has to beat Justine anyway!
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Of course I saw you were joking in your initial thread - that's why when I responded it was a joke also :hug:
The smiley's gave it away. I always use a smiley when I'm joking (even though SW19 doesn't see it that way :rolleyes: :P
See ..... ^ another joke ;)
Dark_Necrofear - August 24, 2007 02:23 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 24 2007, 04:03 PM) |
| QUOTE (Dark_Necrofear @ Aug 24 2007, 12:29 PM) | | QUOTE (Queen Justine @ Aug 24 2007, 01:23 PM) | | QUOTE (Dark_Necrofear @ Aug 24 2007, 08:21 AM) | | QUOTE | | Grand Slam draws are fixed to stop Serena dominating again |
roflmao But if she wants to dominate she might as well start with Justine! ;)
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Didn't you say something similar in the last two slams? :P ;)
BTW if Serena loses again, shall I start an excuses thread beforehand? roflmao :kiss2:
ONLY JOKING
^ made it bold and large just in case SW19's computer can't see it :rolleyes: ;)
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If you cant see that Im joking then dont respond to me coz Im not Bilv buddy.He likes battling with you.I was joking.
On a serious note if she wants to get back to the top she has to beat Justine anyway!
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Of course I saw you were joking in your initial thread - that's why when I responded it was a joke also :hug:
The smiley's gave it away. I always use a smiley when I'm joking (even though SW19 doesn't see it that way :rolleyes: :P
See ..... ^ another joke ;)
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:hug:
juan_carlos772652 - September 6, 2007 10:20 AM (GMT)
Steffi Graf didn't seem to be affected by any draws when she was still playing. The way she used to win BOTH the FO and Wimby was amazing and testament to her great fitness and mental strength.
Dark_Necrofear - September 6, 2007 10:22 AM (GMT)
Juan Carlos hello....Where have you been?
barrystar - September 6, 2007 11:18 AM (GMT)
Here is some genuine gossip - this website is wondering whether or not Serena is pregnant.
http://www.mediatakeout.com/11249/rumor_se...s_pregnant.html
9mmSuzi - September 6, 2007 11:27 AM (GMT)
:unsure: how true is that..... and there is now word on the "baby daddy"
I don't know if it is believable.... :blink: