Is Hamilton blowing everyone away in his first year a sign that the rest of the field must all be crap, or is it just that he is amazing?

I have no idea but I thought I'd spam up the thread anyway! roflmao

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ive never really watched it since Villenueve went

I don't think I've watched it since James Hunt went! roflmao

nah, the boy is just shit hot with a car to match...

You tell 'em Pebs :D

Hey Pebs, geroge reckons you are right :ok: He says he does have a great car and reckons he would not have won without drivign a MacLaren or whatever he drives!

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he's a *bleep*ing genius!

He was shit hot last year in GP2 and this year, he has Alonso serioulsly worried - so much so that ALonso is complaining in Spanish newspapers saying that the team are favouring Hamilton...


...oh yeah! Let's favour an untested rookie against a 2x world champion

Lewis has him worried

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well we can play that both ways - the week after Monaco (which Alonso won) Hamilton was apparently whingeing that he "wasn't allowed to pass" Alonso, despite the fact Alonso was quicker and on a circuit where overtaking is impossible anyway...

Hamilton has done a fantastic job in his first few F1 races - but he is in the best car, with the best driver next to him, and he has been fairly lucky (for want of a better word).

I do fear his driving style may well cause a bit of trouble for him later in the season, and he hasn't had a proper setback yet. It's how you respond to a setback which shows how good you are (i.e. Alonso when his engine went at the crucial moment at Monza last season, gifting Schumacher the championship lead. Yet Alonso won the title).

People seem to be a little too keen to get stuck into Alonso and underestimate him, but he is a double world champion, and in cars which probably weren't the best in either season...

But Villeneuve was shit roflmao

I'm not understimating Alonso at all Sam. You hear it all the time in F1, a driver can really only compare himself to his team mate. Lewis is coming up to scratch when being compared with Alonso. He's beaten him on 4 occasions this year, that ain't bad and shows Hamilton's no slouch.

I agree he hasn't had any setbacks this year but he's had a quite a few in his career in other formulas.

As to luck? He's made his own.

I think this will be a great championship, but I'm still pissed off with Honda

Hey wasn't getting specifically at you, and I really do want Lewis to do well, but i'm just playing devil's advocate a little here...

Everything has fallen into place for him at the moment, the Ferraris are going backwards and that has really helped him. They are missing schumachers drive I feel (I know he's been an advisor but it's not the same as him getting the car sorted for him to drive!).

I think Lewis will have a setback within the next three grands prix, then we'll see what he's made of.

Honda have been frankly awful, the Earth design was a ridiculous publicity stunt mind roflmao

I don't have much time for them, they have always seemed arrogant to me despite achieving little, and Jenson Button epitomises this.

Agreed. Outpaced easily by Hill and then when he was in a car that wasn't the best by a million miles his true colours showed.

Hamilton is miles better than Jacques and his ego.

Best three drivers in F1 at the moment (in my opinion)

1. Alonso
2. Heidfield
3. Hamilton

Should Lewis stay like this for the whole season you can elevate him past Heidfield and up there with Alonso.

Raikkonen I once thought was right up there, but he has shown he really is lazy when it comes to working with the Engineers.

Yes Heidfeld has been very good this season, has really used the improved BMW to his advantage.

Kimi is a strange one, a couple of years ago, when he was driving brilliantly for McLaren and challenging Alonso (though the McLaren was faster than the Renault anyway when it finished), I thought he would be a world champion at some stage. But he seems to have lost drive, and ferrari, having been dragged up from mediocrity by Schumacher and Ross Brawn, are suddenly losing their aura big time!

And you're right regarding Hamilton, if he maintains that level til the end of the season he is undoubtedly the best driver out there, but I doubt he will.

I am surprised Lewis is odds-on for the title this early on too...

He's probably the best new talent in F1 since Schumacher. The fact that he is in a Mclaren does help, but he is up against the best driver. And he has the best driver so concerned that the best driver, Alonso, is making uncharacteristic mistakes.

Nothing to do with everyone else being 'crap'. Did you say that when Nadal came onto the scene and started hammering everyone on clay?

good to see cpg emerge roflmao

still mentally scarred from the tipping? ;) :P

We will see how good hamilton is when he has a setback...

Oh yeah, beyond belief ;)

He had a setback in Monaco when he crashed in practice...didn't affect him. Mistakes he made last season didn't affect him...he just became even more determined to make up for his mistakes.

A setback is when it matters - in the race. Lets see how he reacts once he's had a bad race or a retirement before calling him the new schumacher! He is, after all, in the dominant car at the moment

I don't think that is as important as it was with Schumacher...the best driver happens to be in the same car. No driver has ever made such an impressive start to their F1 career, and presuming that Hamilton will be at Mclaren for many years to come, he will have one of the best cars for most of his career. Alonso and Hamilton will demand a fast car...Raikkonen, DC, Montoya etc didn't have the same passion.

and the best driver and twice WDC is in the SAME team, so the cars should be at least close in performance.... :ok:

as is Alonso....sometimes its the driver AND car which makes a dominance....

Look at 'Nige in the Year he won the Championship in the Williams, his teammate Patrese was in a car that was supposedly SOOO much better than the field, but he was NOWHERE near as good as 'Nige.

You just have to look at Fisichella from the last 2 seasons. He's not a bad driver by any means, and before 05 was considered to be a great talent who had never had the chance of a top car, but Alonso just overran him completely.

It would have been interesting to see Hamilton in a lesser car for a year, but when he is good enough to win at this stage, it would have been a complete waste.

I think that guy is awesome. He is the first F1 driver I'm really a fan of!

Mind you I think what we've found with Fisi is that yes, he is one of the fastest drivers, but not when it matters at the sharp end of the sport. Alonso was way too good for him and Fisi collapsed!


I've said it twice now - we will see how good Hamilton is when he has a bad race/retirement. See how he bounces back. You don't know how he'll respond yet because it hasn't happened, but it will.

Also, those Ferraris will surely get better later in the season - let's see how he responds if that happens.

Hamilton is doing fantastic so far, what an acheivement for someone so young and inexperienced when it comes to Formula 1 racing. I am a big big fan of him and I watch every F1 race now and I get excited before the race and hope he wins.

In the past I liked F1 and all sorts of motorsports but didn't watch F1 every race, but now because of Hamilton and the excitement its gave me to watch it again has just made me want to watch every race, because he has put the excitement back into F1 IMO.

The Ferrari's are no longer dominating and even Alonso is trying so hard to beat Hamilton, but so far he has only done it a few times, and Hamilton is starting to race away in the drivers championship, so it's made it exciting for everyone to see!

Can't disagree with most of that :D All i've really been saying is that I reckon people are building him up for a massive fall and I hope it doesn't happen.

I'll tell you whoI do miss, and I never thought i'd say it - Schumacher. You only realise how good he was when he's gone.

You always knew he was on the track and capable of doing something spectacular even when a long way back, and of course he had the Dick Dastardly/villain character too which is sadly lacking now roflmao


Oh yeah, i've watched virtually every F1 race for the last 4 years because of the super-argumentative/competetive race tipping league site i'm a part of with some old schoolfriends/enemies roflmao