2007 semi final (Tennis Forum - Centre Court (Free from Havoc))

FRANCE VS ITALY

Nova Yardinia, Castellaneta Marina , Italy
Stadium Capacity: 4000
14 July - 15 July 2007
Day 1: 15h00 (13h00 GMT) tbc
Day 2: 12h00 (10h00 GMT) tbc
Surface: Clay (Red Clay) - Outdoors
Ball Type: Dunlop Fort Duck

RUSSIA VS USA

The Stadium at Topnotch, Stowe, USA
Stadium Capacity: 4000
14 July - 15 July 2007
Day 1: 1330 hrs (1730 hrs GMT)
Day 2: 1230 hrs (1630 hrs GMT)
Surface: Hard (Decoturf) - Outdoors
Ball Type: Wilson US Open Regular Duty

I guess the sqard list for this four teams are:

FRANCE

Field members (Starters): Dechy, Golovin, Razzano, Beltrame-Bremond
Bench members (Substitutes): Pierce, Loit, Bartoli, Foretz, Cohen-Aloro, Pin
Suspension: Mauresmo (because her one year suspension period is performing yet)

ITALY

Field members (Starters): Santangelo, Pennetta, Vinci, Garbin
Bench members (Substitutes): Schiavone, Camerin, Oprandi

RUSSIA

Field members (Starters): Kuznetsova, Vesnina, Chakvetadze, Safina
Bench members (Substitutes): Sharapova, Kirilenko, Dementieva, Likhovtseva, Bovina, Rodionova, Bychkova, Linetskaya, Dushevina, Zvonareva, Myskina (absent), Kournikova (absent)
Suspension: Petrova (because she played against Spain without authorization)

USA:

Field members (Starters): S. Williams, V. Williams, Raymond, King
Bench members (Substitutes): Shaughnessy, Granville, Harkleroad, Mattek, Perry, Jackson
Suspension: Craybas (because her two years suspension period is performing yet)

What do you think? :huh: :unsure: :wacko:

seems to me like we are getting too many matches early on that should really be finals. Maybe its time the seedings and draw organisers underwent some change

How do you get suspended? :blink:

QUOTE (felixsanchez @ Jun 10 2007, 05:55 PM)

How do you get suspended? :blink:

Oh Craybas, Im not sure why :shrug:

QUOTE (SerenaW19 @ Jun 10 2007, 11:57 AM)

QUOTE (felixsanchez @ Jun 10 2007, 05:55 PM)

How do you get suspended? :blink:

Oh Craybas, Im not sure why :shrug:

It is because she lost the most important single match in fourth rubber when USA fall behind Russia 1-2 at two years ago of semi final. But she didn't leave the team to response her fault, also she played again.

So, USA lost in semi final again.

If Craybas can response her fault, her team maybe advance to the final.

QUOTE (felixsanchez @ Jun 10 2007, 05:55 PM)

How do you get suspended? :blink:

I'm a bit confused by that as well?

As far as I know there is no suspension in Fed Cup - why would the organisers want to suspend players when they have a hard enough time getting them to play in the first place?

Or is it supposed to be the national organisers themselves but again why would they do that?

Mauresmo hasn't played the last few ties but that was because of injury not suspension.

Why would Craybas be suspended for losing matches? Dropped from the team maybe but not suspended.

Also how was Petrova not authorised to play against Spain!!??

It all seems a little strange really. As far as I can tell there is nothing on the Fed Cup website about it.

QUOTE (GS2 @ Jun 12 2007, 03:40 PM)

QUOTE (felixsanchez @ Jun 10 2007, 05:55 PM)

How do you get suspended? :blink:

I'm a bit confused by that as well?

As far as I know there is no suspension in Fed Cup - why would the organisers want to suspend players when they have a hard enough time getting them to play in the first place?

Or is it supposed to be the national organisers themselves but again why would they do that?

Mauresmo hasn't played the last few ties but that was because of injury not suspension.

Why would Craybas be suspended for losing matches? Dropped from the team maybe but not suspended.

Also how was Petrova not authorised to play against Spain!!??

It all seems a little strange really. As far as I can tell there is nothing on the Fed Cup website about it.

dont worry, Piercechenq is as theatrical as Mary herself :lol:

QUOTE (liam_valid @ Jun 12 2007, 02:44 PM)

dont worry, Piercechenq is as theatrical as Mary herself :lol:

This has turned into such a funny thread roflmao

QUOTE (GS2 @ Jun 12 2007, 08:40 AM)

QUOTE (felixsanchez @ Jun 10 2007, 05:55 PM)

How do you get suspended? :blink:

I'm a bit confused by that as well?

As far as I know there is no suspension in Fed Cup - why would the organisers want to suspend players when they have a hard enough time getting them to play in the first place?

Or is it supposed to be the national organisers themselves but again why would they do that?

Mauresmo hasn't played the last few ties but that was because of injury not suspension.

Why would Craybas be suspended for losing matches? Dropped from the team maybe but not suspended.

Also how was Petrova not authorised to play against Spain!!??

It all seems a little strange really. As far as I can tell there is nothing on the Fed Cup website about it.

OK, now I explain why they were suspended:

Mauresmo lost the last one deciding doubles match with Pierce when Pierce defeated Myskina in fourth rubber difficultly at two years ago of final, but she didn't leave the team to response her fault (Pierce had already perform it);
The explaination for why Craybas was suspended I had already explain it (see this);
Petrova gave her important chance to newbie Kirilenko to play the fourth rubber when they against Belgium at last year (I know she want to have a rest, but the problem is she had a rest at least one week when she won in Family Circle Cup 2006)

Otherwise, why I post this message? It is I want you know some players will have a punishment (e.g. suspension) when they lost the crutial or last one deciding match. For example, the team leader of France - Guy Forget was resigned in three years ago because his team can't defend their championships at the final of FED Cup 2004 (France VS Russia). Meantime Bartoli & Loit lost to Myskina & Zvonareva in last one deciding doubles match when France tired with Russia 2-2 (Dechy & Golovin won their single match difficultly, so Bartoli & Loit should save their chance).

Also, this is the one of rule for Accountability System (it means are someone must resign their positions to response their serious fault if they make the most serious mistakes).

Do you understand now?

roflmao roflmao

i think we get the message Pierce. win or your given the boot roflmao

QUOTE (PierceCheng @ Jun 17 2007, 08:33 AM)

QUOTE (GS2 @ Jun 12 2007, 08:40 AM)

QUOTE (felixsanchez @ Jun 10 2007, 05:55 PM)

How do you get suspended? :blink:

I'm a bit confused by that as well?

As far as I know there is no suspension in Fed Cup - why would the organisers want to suspend players when they have a hard enough time getting them to play in the first place?

Or is it supposed to be the national organisers themselves but again why would they do that?

Mauresmo hasn't played the last few ties but that was because of injury not suspension.

Why would Craybas be suspended for losing matches? Dropped from the team maybe but not suspended.

Also how was Petrova not authorised to play against Spain!!??

It all seems a little strange really. As far as I can tell there is nothing on the Fed Cup website about it.

OK, now I explain why they were suspended:

Mauresmo lost the last one deciding doubles match with Pierce when Pierce defeated Myskina in fourth rubber difficultly at two years ago of final, but she didn't leave the team to response her fault (Pierce had already perform it);
The explaination for why Craybas was suspended I had already explain it (see this);
Petrova gave her important chance to newbie Kirilenko to play the fourth rubber when they against Belgium at last year (I know she want to have a rest, but the problem is she had a rest at least one week when she won in Family Circle Cup 2006)

Otherwise, why I post this message? It is I want you know some players will have a punishment (e.g. suspension) when they lost the crutial or last one deciding match. For example, the team leader of France - Guy Forget was resigned in three years ago because his team can't defend their championships at the final of FED Cup 2004 (France VS Russia). Meantime Bartoli & Loit lost to Myskina & Zvonareva in last one deciding doubles match when France tired with Russia 2-2 (Dechy & Golovin won their single match difficultly, so Bartoli & Loit should save their chance).

Also, this is the one of rule for Accountability System (it means are someone must resign their positions to response their serious fault if they make the most serious mistakes).

Do you understand now?

I don't think I've ever read so much nonsense!

QUOTE (GS2 @ Jun 18 2007, 02:44 AM)

QUOTE (PierceCheng @ Jun 17 2007, 08:33 AM)

QUOTE (GS2 @ Jun 12 2007, 08:40 AM)

QUOTE (felixsanchez @ Jun 10 2007, 05:55 PM)

How do you get suspended? :blink:

I'm a bit confused by that as well?

As far as I know there is no suspension in Fed Cup - why would the organisers want to suspend players when they have a hard enough time getting them to play in the first place?

Or is it supposed to be the national organisers themselves but again why would they do that?

Mauresmo hasn't played the last few ties but that was because of injury not suspension.

Why would Craybas be suspended for losing matches? Dropped from the team maybe but not suspended.

Also how was Petrova not authorised to play against Spain!!??

It all seems a little strange really. As far as I can tell there is nothing on the Fed Cup website about it.

OK, now I explain why they were suspended:

Mauresmo lost the last one deciding doubles match with Pierce when Pierce defeated Myskina in fourth rubber difficultly at two years ago of final, but she didn't leave the team to response her fault (Pierce had already perform it);
The explaination for why Craybas was suspended I had already explain it (see this);
Petrova gave her important chance to newbie Kirilenko to play the fourth rubber when they against Belgium at last year (I know she want to have a rest, but the problem is she had a rest at least one week when she won in Family Circle Cup 2006)

Otherwise, why I post this message? It is I want you know some players will have a punishment (e.g. suspension) when they lost the crutial or last one deciding match. For example, the team leader of France - Guy Forget was resigned in three years ago because his team can't defend their championships at the final of FED Cup 2004 (France VS Russia). Meantime Bartoli & Loit lost to Myskina & Zvonareva in last one deciding doubles match when France tired with Russia 2-2 (Dechy & Golovin won their single match difficultly, so Bartoli & Loit should save their chance).

Also, this is the one of rule for Accountability System (it means are someone must resign their positions to response their serious fault if they make the most serious mistakes).

Do you understand now?

I don't think I've ever read so much nonsense!

Can you tell me which part are you don't understand please?

QUOTE (GS2 @ Jun 18 2007, 08:44 AM)

QUOTE (PierceCheng @ Jun 17 2007, 08:33 AM)

QUOTE (GS2 @ Jun 12 2007, 08:40 AM)

QUOTE (felixsanchez @ Jun 10 2007, 05:55 PM)

How do you get suspended? :blink:

I'm a bit confused by that as well?

As far as I know there is no suspension in Fed Cup - why would the organisers want to suspend players when they have a hard enough time getting them to play in the first place?

Or is it supposed to be the national organisers themselves but again why would they do that?

Mauresmo hasn't played the last few ties but that was because of injury not suspension.

Why would Craybas be suspended for losing matches? Dropped from the team maybe but not suspended.

Also how was Petrova not authorised to play against Spain!!??

It all seems a little strange really. As far as I can tell there is nothing on the Fed Cup website about it.

OK, now I explain why they were suspended:

Mauresmo lost the last one deciding doubles match with Pierce when Pierce defeated Myskina in fourth rubber difficultly at two years ago of final, but she didn't leave the team to response her fault (Pierce had already perform it);
The explaination for why Craybas was suspended I had already explain it (see this);
Petrova gave her important chance to newbie Kirilenko to play the fourth rubber when they against Belgium at last year (I know she want to have a rest, but the problem is she had a rest at least one week when she won in Family Circle Cup 2006)

Otherwise, why I post this message? It is I want you know some players will have a punishment (e.g. suspension) when they lost the crutial or last one deciding match. For example, the team leader of France - Guy Forget was resigned in three years ago because his team can't defend their championships at the final of FED Cup 2004 (France VS Russia). Meantime Bartoli & Loit lost to Myskina & Zvonareva in last one deciding doubles match when France tired with Russia 2-2 (Dechy & Golovin won their single match difficultly, so Bartoli & Loit should save their chance).

Also, this is the one of rule for Accountability System (it means are someone must resign their positions to response their serious fault if they make the most serious mistakes).

Do you understand now?

I don't think I've ever read so much nonsense!

roflmao roflmao

I just love that the link takes you to the chinese constitutional affairs bureau :lol:

QUOTE (PierceCheng @ Jun 18 2007, 03:37 PM)

QUOTE (GS2 @ Jun 18 2007, 02:44 AM)

QUOTE (PierceCheng @ Jun 17 2007, 08:33 AM)

QUOTE (GS2 @ Jun 12 2007, 08:40 AM)

QUOTE (felixsanchez @ Jun 10 2007, 05:55 PM)

How do you get suspended? :blink:

I'm a bit confused by that as well?

As far as I know there is no suspension in Fed Cup - why would the organisers want to suspend players when they have a hard enough time getting them to play in the first place?

Or is it supposed to be the national organisers themselves but again why would they do that?

Mauresmo hasn't played the last few ties but that was because of injury not suspension.

Why would Craybas be suspended for losing matches? Dropped from the team maybe but not suspended.

Also how was Petrova not authorised to play against Spain!!??

It all seems a little strange really. As far as I can tell there is nothing on the Fed Cup website about it.

OK, now I explain why they were suspended:

Mauresmo lost the last one deciding doubles match with Pierce when Pierce defeated Myskina in fourth rubber difficultly at two years ago of final, but she didn't leave the team to response her fault (Pierce had already perform it);
The explaination for why Craybas was suspended I had already explain it (see this);
Petrova gave her important chance to newbie Kirilenko to play the fourth rubber when they against Belgium at last year (I know she want to have a rest, but the problem is she had a rest at least one week when she won in Family Circle Cup 2006)

Otherwise, why I post this message? It is I want you know some players will have a punishment (e.g. suspension) when they lost the crutial or last one deciding match. For example, the team leader of France - Guy Forget was resigned in three years ago because his team can't defend their championships at the final of FED Cup 2004 (France VS Russia). Meantime Bartoli & Loit lost to Myskina & Zvonareva in last one deciding doubles match when France tired with Russia 2-2 (Dechy & Golovin won their single match difficultly, so Bartoli & Loit should save their chance).

Also, this is the one of rule for Accountability System (it means are someone must resign their positions to response their serious fault if they make the most serious mistakes).

Do you understand now?

I don't think I've ever read so much nonsense!

Can you tell me which part are you don't understand please?

Because it's not true!!

There is no suspension in Fed Cup for losing an important match!!

Guy Forget resigned because he wanted to - not because he had to!

Mauresmo & Petrova have both played in Fed Cup since these big matches they lost (or in Petrova's case couldn't play because she was exhausted) - if there was suspension why wouldn't it be automatic!!!?

Craybas didn't play in the first round this year but who would pick her when they had Venus & Serena on call!

Your link has nothing to do with the Fed Cup - just with the way you seem to think the world works!

QUOTE (PierceCheng @ Jun 10 2007, 04:49 AM)

[*]Suspension: Petrova (because she played against Spain without authorization)

How can a player do that? She jumped out of the queue saying I want to play this and ran out to the court to play? lol

oh my god, where are you getting all these info from???

Bravissimo Francesca Schiavone!!! Amazing achievement to beat Amelie, then Tati (from 2-5 down in the third set) and then seal the doubles!!

And Bravo to the Russian girls too, beating USA, in spite of an inspired Venus Williams..

So.. Italy v Russia in the final..

Been impressed with the Italian team. No huge superstars there, but an excellent team effort from them once again :)

I was gutted the USA lost :( But Russia had the greater depth in their team and Petrova and Vesina were the more melded pair, so the most deserving team won :)

And Schiavone :bow:

Venus tried so hard, as did the rest of the team :(

Raymond and Venus did their best, but Petrova and Vesnina just the better team on the day. Still it was an excellent performance from the USA, and when Serena's in the team next year, we can hope for great things :D

QUOTE (dl04 @ Jul 17 2007, 03:20 AM)

Venus tried so hard, as did the rest of the team :(

Raymond and Venus did their best, but Petrova and Vesnina just the better team on the day. Still it was an excellent performance from the USA, and when Serena's in the team next year, we can hope for great things :D

V. Williams & Raymond will not play in next year of this tournament, S. Williams & Shaughnessy will play with Tu & King.

QUOTE (PierceCheng @ Jul 18 2007, 11:07 AM)

QUOTE (dl04 @ Jul 17 2007, 03:20 AM)

Venus tried so hard, as did the rest of the team :(

Raymond and Venus did their best, but Petrova and Vesnina just the better team on the day. Still it was an excellent performance from the USA, and when Serena's in the team next year, we can hope for great things :D

V. Williams & Raymond will not play in next year of this tournament, S. Williams & Shaughnessy will play with Tu & King.

roflmao

How can Zina Garrison decide who is playing in the fed cup next year at this point in time? Would you really leave out Venus if she was available and fit? No. Would you leave out Raymond, one of the best doubles players in the world over the last ten years, if she was playing well and fit? No.

Seems to be me like you're getting some duff info PierceCheng!

QUOTE (MissSospanFach @ Jul 18 2007, 07:42 PM)

QUOTE (PierceCheng @ Jul 18 2007, 11:07 AM)

QUOTE (dl04 @ Jul 17 2007, 03:20 AM)

Venus tried so hard, as did the rest of the team :(

Raymond and Venus did their best, but Petrova and Vesnina just the better team on the day. Still it was an excellent performance from the USA, and when Serena's in the team next year, we can hope for great things :D

V. Williams & Raymond will not play in next year of this tournament, S. Williams & Shaughnessy will play with Tu & King.

roflmao

How can Zina Garrison decide who is playing in the fed cup next year at this point in time? Would you really leave out Venus if she was available and fit? No. Would you leave out Raymond, one of the best doubles players in the world over the last ten years, if she was playing well and fit? No.

Seems to be me like you're getting some duff info PierceCheng!

Ignore him - he also reckoned that Mauresmo & Petrova were suspended for the semi finals this year.

Guess what - both of them played in the semis!

He's in his own little world!

well done Nadia :D (and the rest of the Russian team!!!)

QUOTE (MissSospanFach @ Jul 18 2007, 01:42 PM)

QUOTE (PierceCheng @ Jul 18 2007, 11:07 AM)

QUOTE (dl04 @ Jul 17 2007, 03:20 AM)

Venus tried so hard, as did the rest of the team :(

Raymond and Venus did their best, but Petrova and Vesnina just the better team on the day. Still it was an excellent performance from the USA, and when Serena's in the team next year, we can hope for great things :D

V. Williams & Raymond will not play in next year of this tournament, S. Williams & Shaughnessy will play with Tu & King.

roflmao

How can Zina Garrison decide who is playing in the fed cup next year at this point in time? Would you really leave out Venus if she was available and fit? No. Would you leave out Raymond, one of the best doubles players in the world over the last ten years, if she was playing well and fit? No.

Seems to be me like you're getting some duff info PierceCheng!

Do you remember even if any players are the best, but maybe dismiss if they didn't follow the instruction for their team leader? I have already said that this is the one of disciplinary!!

Also, everyone have a chance to play (because this is the one of equal opportunity)!!

PierceChang I really don't think you understand how the Fed Cup works! Players aren't automatically dismissed or suspended for not winning a match and it's not all about giving everyone a fair chance.

After all you initially claimed that Petrova & Mauresmo would be suspended for the semi finals but they weren't now were they? You are also wrong here. After all why should Venus Williams be disciplined when she won both her singles matches and only lost a tight doubles match!?

QUOTE (PierceCheng @ Jul 21 2007, 04:23 AM)

Do you remember even if any players are the best, but maybe dismiss if they didn't follow the instruction for their team leader? I have already said that this is the one of disciplinary!!

Also, everyone have a chance to play (because this is the one of equal opportunity)!!

What is the instruction here? Also if everyone have equal chance to play why then Veuns and Nadia played three matches each with one member from each team didn't play at all?

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