Title: FO Predictions Contest Results Thread
liam_valid - May 28, 2007 09:57 PM (GMT)
Will keep all results in this thread to keep forum tidy
Day 1 results, only 8 matches were completed so total points available 24:
Justine Henin (BEL)[1] vs. Elena Vesnina (RUS)2-0
Alize Cornet (FRA) vs. Venus Williams (USA)[26]0-2
Severine Bremond (FRA)[31] vs. Michaella Krajicek (NED)0-2
Sandra Kloesel (GER)vs. Na Li (CHN)[16]0-2
Tamira Paszek (AUT) vs. Aiko Nakamura (JPN)2-0
Aleksandra Wozniak (CAN) vs. Ashley Harkleroad (USA) 0-2
Ivo Minar (CZE)vs. Potito Starace (ITA)1-3
Janko Tipsarevic (SRB)vs. Dusan Vemic (SRB)3-1
Fah 18
SW 16
Liam 14
Dav 13
SB 13
Viva 13
Wise 13
Scolios 12
Well done Fah for the daily win :gwin:
liam_valid - May 29, 2007 08:44 PM (GMT)
day 2 results. there were 2 retirements, and im voiding the unfinished matches, so 87 points available:
Marcos Baghdatis (CYP)[16] vs. Sebastien Grosjean (FRA)3-0
Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) vs. Rafael Nadal (ESP)[2]0-3
Richard Gasquet (FRA)[11] vs. Nicolas Mahut (FRA)3-0
Igor Andreev (RUS) vs. Andy Roddick (USA)[3]3-1
Florian Mayer (GER)[31] vs. Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA)0-3
Novak Djokovic (SRB)[6] vs. Santiago Giraldo (COL)void
Juan Ignacio Chela (ARG)[18] vs. Fabrice Santoro (FRA)3-1
Lleyton Hewitt (AUS)[14] vs. Max Mirnyi (BLR)3-0
James Blake (USA)[8] vs. Ivo Karlovic (CRO)1-3
Carlos Berlocq (ARG) vs. Julien Benneteau (FRA)[30]3-1
Radek Stepanek (CZE) vs. Fernando Gonzalez (CHI)[5]3-0
Carlos Moya (ESP)[23] vs. Andreas Seppi (ITA)void
Justin Gimelstob (USA) vs. Nicolas Almagro (ESP)[32]0-3
Mariano Zabaleta (ARG) vs. Agustin Calleri (ARG)[26]3-1
Jurgen Melzer (AUT)[27] vs. Jose Acasuso (ARG)3-0
Robin Soderling (SWE)[25 vs. Albert Montanes (ESP)void
Hyung-Taik Lee (KOR) vs. David Nalbandian (ARG)[15]1-3
Ernests Gulbis (LAT) vs. Tim Henman (GBR)3-0
Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (ESP) vs. Tomas Berdych (CZE)[10]void
Daniele Bracciali (ITA)vs. David Ferrer (ESP)[12]void
Ruben Ramirez Hidalgo (ESP) vs. Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI)1-3
Bohdan Ulihrach (CZE) vs. Dominik Hrbaty (SVK)[24]3-1
Jan Hernych (CZE) vs. Mikhail Youzhny (RUS)[13]void
Lukas Dlouhy (CZE) vs. Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER)[28]2-3
Feliciano Lopez (ESP)vs. Jarkko Nieminen (FIN)[20]0-3
Dmitry Tursunov (RUS)[21] vs. Alessio Di Mauro (ITA)3-1
Victor Hanescu (ROU) vs. Guillermo Canas (ARG)[19]0-3
Emmanuelle Gagliardi (SUI)vs. Nicole Vaidisova (CZE)[6]0-2
Marion Bartoli (FRA)[18] vs. Aravane Rezai (FRA)2-0
Jelena Jankovic (SRB)[4] vs. Stephanie Foretz (FRA)2-0
Angelique Kerber (GER) vs. Elena Dementieva (RUS)[13]0-2
Agnieszka Radwanska (POL)vs. Mara Santangelo (ITA)[28]0-2
Nadia Petrova (RUS)[11] vs. Kveta Peschke (CZE)1-2
Yvonne Meusburger (AUT) vs. Francesca Schiavone (ITA)[23]0-2
Sybille Bammer (AUT)[20] vs. Roberta Vinci (ITA)0-2
Daily Scores:
Wise 47
Fah 45
WA 45
Viva 43
Scolios 42
Liam 41
SB 41
SW 36
Roysie 33
Well done Wise :gwin: not a great score but still better than the rest of us :lol:
Leaderboard:
Fah 63
Wise 60
Viva 56
Liam 55
SB 54
Scolios 54
SW 52
WA 45
Roysie 33
Dav 13
fah51 - May 30, 2007 07:17 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| Ruben Ramirez Hidalgo (ESP) vs. Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI)1-3 |
Thanks for all the hard work liam, but I think you will find the above should have been 3-2 to Wawrinka, which puts my score up by another 2 points to 47. Don't know what it does to all the others!
liam_valid - May 30, 2007 08:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (fah51 @ May 30 2007, 08:17 AM) |
| QUOTE | | Ruben Ramirez Hidalgo (ESP) vs. Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI)1-3 |
Thanks for all the hard work liam, but I think you will find the above should have been 3-2 to Wawrinka, which puts my score up by another 2 points to 47. Don't know what it does to all the others!
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thanks fah will edit :ok:
liam_valid - May 30, 2007 08:16 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ May 30 2007, 09:13 PM) |
| QUOTE (fah51 @ May 30 2007, 08:17 AM) | | QUOTE | | Ruben Ramirez Hidalgo (ESP) vs. Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI)1-3 |
Thanks for all the hard work liam, but I think you will find the above should have been 3-2 to Wawrinka, which puts my score up by another 2 points to 47. Don't know what it does to all the others!
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thanks fah will edit :ok:
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oh my mod powers dont work in this forum :lol: will amend on todays scores :)
liam_valid - May 30, 2007 08:46 PM (GMT)
Day 3 Results
2 matches not played (Serena and Ljubo) so points out of 93:
Richard Gasquet (FRA)[11] vs. Kristof Vliegen (BEL)0-3
Juan Ignacio Chela (ARG)[18] vs. Gael Monfils (FRA)1-3
Janko Tipsarevic (SRB) vs. Marat Safin (RUS)[22]3-0
Roger Federer (SUI)[1] vs. Thierry Ascione (FRA)3-0
Michael Llodra (FRA) vs. Nicolas Almagro (ESP)[32]3-2
Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI) vs. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO)[7]void
Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)[4] vs. Werner Eschauer (AUT)3-0
Simone Bolelli (ITA) vs. Guillermo Canas (ARG)[19]0-3
Jurgen Melzer (AUT)[27] vs. Juan Monaco (ARG)0-3
Filippo Volandri (ITA)[29] vs. Martin Vassallo Arguello (ARG)3-0
Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)[17] vs. Stefan Koubek (AUT)3-0
Tommy Robredo (ESP)[9] vs. Konstantinos Economidis (GRE)3-0
Ivan Navarro Pastor (ESP) vs. David Nalbandian (ARG)[15]3-0
Nicolas Lapentti (ECU) vs. Mikhail Youzhny (RUS)3-0
Emilie Loit (FRA) vs. Maria Sharapova (RUS)[2]0-2
Milagros Sequera (VEN) vs. Serena Williams (USA)[8]void
Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)[5] vs. Laura Granville (USA)2-0
Justine Henin (BEL)[1] vs. Tamira Paszek (AUT)2-0
Ashley Harkleroad (USA) vs. Venus Williams (USA)[26]0-2
Ekaterina Bychkova (RUS) vs. Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS)[3]0-2
Mathilde Johansson (FRA) vs. Elena Dementieva (RUS)[13]0-2
Shahar Peer (ISR)[15] vs. Kaia Kanepi (EST)2-0
Jelena Jankovic (SRB)[4] vs. Catalina Castano (COL)2-0
Akgul Amanmuradova (UZB) vs. Nicole Vaidisova (CZE)[6]0-2
Yulia Beygelzimer (UKR) vs. Lucie Safarova (CZE)[25]0-2
Ai Sugiyama (JPN)[21] vs. Eva Birnerova (CZE)2-0
Ana Ivanovic (SRB)[7] vs. Sofia Arvidsson (SWE)2-0
Sybille Bammer (AUT)[20] vs. Olga Savchuk (UKR)2-0
Samantha Stosur (AUS)[27] vs. Maria Kirilenko (RUS)2-1
Jelena Kostanic Tosic (CRO) vs. Daniela Hantuchova (SVK)[12]0-2
Dinara Safina (RUS)[10] vs. Tzipora Obziler (ISR)2-0
Alicia Molik (AUS) vs. Anna Chakvetadze (RUS)[9]0-2
Patty Schnyder (SUI)[14] vs. Martina Sucha (SVK) 2-1
Daily Score:
(points amended from Wawrinka match yesterday)
Wise 72
Fah 71
Viva 70
Felix 66
SW 63
Scolios 62
SB 61
WA 60
Liam 56
Roysie 56
Wise gets the daily win, although Viva would have drawn but ive had to knock 2 points off from yesterday :gwin: :gwin:
Leaderboard:
Fah 134
Wise 132
Viva 126
Scolios 116
SB 115
SW 115
Liam 111
WA 105
Roysie 89
Felix 66
Dav 13
Its looking like a 2 horse race, but its early days yet.......
vivahate - May 31, 2007 03:30 AM (GMT)
early days indeed liam, i still have plenty of time to finish second roflmao
SerenaW19 - May 31, 2007 02:37 PM (GMT)
God Im doing crap roflmao
scolios - May 31, 2007 03:06 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (SerenaW19 @ May 31 2007, 03:37 PM) |
| God Im doing crap roflmao |
Aw, don't say that, SW! I've only got one lousy point more than you and i think I'm doing well (for me) roflmao
Wise_Analyst - May 31, 2007 03:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ May 30 2007, 09:46 PM) |
| Nicolas Lapentti (ECU) vs. Mikhail Youzhny (RUS)3-0 |
Don't know if this makes any difference to the scores, but Youzhny won this match in straight sets.
Unsure how I'm flying so high, could have sworn I'd made a complete pig's ear of my forecasts. Must be a weak era for predictions.
liam_valid - May 31, 2007 03:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wise_Analyst @ May 31 2007, 04:18 PM) |
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ May 30 2007, 09:46 PM) | | Nicolas Lapentti (ECU) vs. Mikhail Youzhny (RUS)3-0 |
Don't know if this makes any difference to the scores, but Youzhny won this match in straight sets.
Unsure how I'm flying so high, could have sworn I'd made a complete pig's ear of my forecasts. Must be a weak era for predictions.
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roflmao roflmao it sure is a weak era, i knew Youznhy had won in straights so points will be correct, thanks Wise :)
Tenez - May 31, 2007 03:48 PM (GMT)
Unfortunately missed that one.
I think the scoring would be fairer if the result counted 3 and the right score was also worth 3 or even 2?
Losing or winning a match is more important than getting the right score. Winning or losing a set can be done to chance in many cases. So it shoudl be a nice bonus to have the score right but the fluke of getting the score right should not project you above the rest.
Just my 2 cent opinion....as some would say here.
liam_valid - May 31, 2007 03:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tenez @ May 31 2007, 04:48 PM) |
Unfortunately missed that one.
I think the scoring would be fairer if the result counted 3 and the right score was also worth 3 or even 2?
Losing or winning a match is more important than getting the right score. Winning or losing a set can be done to chance in many cases. So it shoudl be a nice bonus to have the score right but the fluke of getting the score right should not project you above the rest.
Just my 2 cent opinion....as some would say here. |
weve been using the same system for nearly 2 years tenez.....
besides, predicting the amount of sets one player will win off another actually takes more than just guesswork imo, i prefer to look at current form and conditions before i decide what score a match will be rather than just tossing a coin, therefore i think correct score deserves more points as it takes more analysis than just 'picking a winner'
SuperBRAT - May 31, 2007 04:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ May 31 2007, 03:50 PM) |
| QUOTE (Tenez @ May 31 2007, 04:48 PM) | Unfortunately missed that one.
I think the scoring would be fairer if the result counted 3 and the right score was also worth 3 or even 2?
Losing or winning a match is more important than getting the right score. Winning or losing a set can be done to chance in many cases. So it shoudl be a nice bonus to have the score right but the fluke of getting the score right should not project you above the rest.
Just my 2 cent opinion....as some would say here. |
weve been using the same system for nearly 2 years tenez.....
besides, predicting the amount of sets one player will win off another actually takes more than just guesswork imo, i prefer to look at current form and conditions before i decide what score a match will be rather than just tossing a coin, therefore i think correct score deserves more points as it takes more analysis than just 'picking a winner'
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I agree. :) Plus you get more satifaction from predicting a scoreline. I'm hoping for such with Karlo v Bjorkman 3-2 but Karlo will probably lose now !
liam_valid - May 31, 2007 04:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (SuperBRAT @ May 31 2007, 05:15 PM) |
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ May 31 2007, 03:50 PM) | | QUOTE (Tenez @ May 31 2007, 04:48 PM) | Unfortunately missed that one.
I think the scoring would be fairer if the result counted 3 and the right score was also worth 3 or even 2?
Losing or winning a match is more important than getting the right score. Winning or losing a set can be done to chance in many cases. So it shoudl be a nice bonus to have the score right but the fluke of getting the score right should not project you above the rest.
Just my 2 cent opinion....as some would say here. |
weve been using the same system for nearly 2 years tenez.....
besides, predicting the amount of sets one player will win off another actually takes more than just guesswork imo, i prefer to look at current form and conditions before i decide what score a match will be rather than just tossing a coin, therefore i think correct score deserves more points as it takes more analysis than just 'picking a winner'
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I agree. :) Plus you get more satifaction from predicting a scoreline. I'm hoping for such with Karlo v Bjorkman 3-2 but Karlo will probably lose now !
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well ive got no chance of defending my FO title from the beeb last year :( my mates will flip if they are partying in london at the weekend and im sat in an internet cafe :angry3:
SuperBRAT - May 31, 2007 04:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ May 31 2007, 04:17 PM) |
| QUOTE (SuperBRAT @ May 31 2007, 05:15 PM) | | QUOTE (liam_valid @ May 31 2007, 03:50 PM) | | QUOTE (Tenez @ May 31 2007, 04:48 PM) | Unfortunately missed that one.
I think the scoring would be fairer if the result counted 3 and the right score was also worth 3 or even 2?
Losing or winning a match is more important than getting the right score. Winning or losing a set can be done to chance in many cases. So it shoudl be a nice bonus to have the score right but the fluke of getting the score right should not project you above the rest.
Just my 2 cent opinion....as some would say here. |
weve been using the same system for nearly 2 years tenez.....
besides, predicting the amount of sets one player will win off another actually takes more than just guesswork imo, i prefer to look at current form and conditions before i decide what score a match will be rather than just tossing a coin, therefore i think correct score deserves more points as it takes more analysis than just 'picking a winner'
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I agree. :) Plus you get more satifaction from predicting a scoreline. I'm hoping for such with Karlo v Bjorkman 3-2 but Karlo will probably lose now !
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well ive got no chance of defending my FO title from the beeb last year :( my mates will flip if they are partying in london at the weekend and im sat in an internet cafe :angry3:
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Oh no. Are you going away then?
liam_valid - May 31, 2007 05:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (SuperBRAT @ May 31 2007, 05:41 PM) |
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ May 31 2007, 04:17 PM) | | QUOTE (SuperBRAT @ May 31 2007, 05:15 PM) | | QUOTE (liam_valid @ May 31 2007, 03:50 PM) | | QUOTE (Tenez @ May 31 2007, 04:48 PM) | Unfortunately missed that one.
I think the scoring would be fairer if the result counted 3 and the right score was also worth 3 or even 2?
Losing or winning a match is more important than getting the right score. Winning or losing a set can be done to chance in many cases. So it shoudl be a nice bonus to have the score right but the fluke of getting the score right should not project you above the rest.
Just my 2 cent opinion....as some would say here. |
weve been using the same system for nearly 2 years tenez.....
besides, predicting the amount of sets one player will win off another actually takes more than just guesswork imo, i prefer to look at current form and conditions before i decide what score a match will be rather than just tossing a coin, therefore i think correct score deserves more points as it takes more analysis than just 'picking a winner'
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I agree. :) Plus you get more satifaction from predicting a scoreline. I'm hoping for such with Karlo v Bjorkman 3-2 but Karlo will probably lose now !
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well ive got no chance of defending my FO title from the beeb last year :( my mates will flip if they are partying in london at the weekend and im sat in an internet cafe :angry3:
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Oh no. Are you going away then?
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im going saturday morning and coming back monday morning so not too long :)
vivahate - May 31, 2007 10:16 PM (GMT)
hmm liam, what will you do in london ;)
Tenez - June 1, 2007 11:16 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ May 31 2007, 04:50 PM) |
| QUOTE (Tenez @ May 31 2007, 04:48 PM) | Unfortunately missed that one.
I think the scoring would be fairer if the result counted 3 and the right score was also worth 3 or even 2?
Losing or winning a match is more important than getting the right score. Winning or losing a set can be done to chance in many cases. So it shoudl be a nice bonus to have the score right but the fluke of getting the score right should not project you above the rest.
Just my 2 cent opinion....as some would say here. |
weve been using the same system for nearly 2 years tenez.....
besides, predicting the amount of sets one player will win off another actually takes more than just guesswork imo, i prefer to look at current form and conditions before i decide what score a match will be rather than just tossing a coin, therefore i think correct score deserves more points as it takes more analysis than just 'picking a winner'
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All right, All right. It was just a suggestion ;) !
I do believe that someone who predicts the winner in 6 matches is better than one who gets the score right on 2 and get the other 4 match winners wrong. The current scoring will get those 2 even. Not sure if that's really right. A set can easily be decided on a net call so it is a bit more uncertain than the outcome of a match.
PS - Actually the guy with only 2 matches right will get 2 +6 = 8 points right? so he even gets ahead of the more consistent guy.
liam_valid - June 1, 2007 11:26 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tenez @ Jun 1 2007, 12:16 PM) |
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ May 31 2007, 04:50 PM) | | QUOTE (Tenez @ May 31 2007, 04:48 PM) | Unfortunately missed that one.
I think the scoring would be fairer if the result counted 3 and the right score was also worth 3 or even 2?
Losing or winning a match is more important than getting the right score. Winning or losing a set can be done to chance in many cases. So it shoudl be a nice bonus to have the score right but the fluke of getting the score right should not project you above the rest.
Just my 2 cent opinion....as some would say here. |
weve been using the same system for nearly 2 years tenez.....
besides, predicting the amount of sets one player will win off another actually takes more than just guesswork imo, i prefer to look at current form and conditions before i decide what score a match will be rather than just tossing a coin, therefore i think correct score deserves more points as it takes more analysis than just 'picking a winner'
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All right, All right. It was just a suggestion ;) !
I do believe that someone who predicts the winner in 6 matches is better than one who gets the score right on 2 and get the other 4 match winners wrong. The current scoring will get those 2 even. Not sure if that's really right. A set can easily be decided on a net call so it is a bit more uncertain than the outcome of a match.
PS - Actually the guy with only 2 matches right will get 2 +6 = 8 points right? so he even gets ahead of the more consistent guy.
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im sorry i still disagree :lol:
todays match between Jankovic and Venus for example. any idiot could suggest Jankovic would win, as she is the favourite, but anyone that delves into their history can see how their games match up, and see that it is usually a case of switching momentum between the two, hence going to 3 sets, and given Jankovic's current forum, it would be logical to predict Jankovic in three sets.
Therefore i think it fair to award the person who looks at the match analyctically the full 3points, and the person who just picks the winner 1 point :)
liam_valid - June 1, 2007 11:27 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (vivahate @ May 31 2007, 11:16 PM) |
| hmm liam, what will you do in london ;) |
well if my hangover today doesnt disppear, i wont be doing much in london :( otherwise its Soho here i come :dancer1: :cheers: :party:
SuperBRAT - June 1, 2007 11:41 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ Jun 1 2007, 11:26 AM) |
| QUOTE (Tenez @ Jun 1 2007, 12:16 PM) | | QUOTE (liam_valid @ May 31 2007, 04:50 PM) | | QUOTE (Tenez @ May 31 2007, 04:48 PM) | Unfortunately missed that one.
I think the scoring would be fairer if the result counted 3 and the right score was also worth 3 or even 2?
Losing or winning a match is more important than getting the right score. Winning or losing a set can be done to chance in many cases. So it shoudl be a nice bonus to have the score right but the fluke of getting the score right should not project you above the rest.
Just my 2 cent opinion....as some would say here. |
weve been using the same system for nearly 2 years tenez.....
besides, predicting the amount of sets one player will win off another actually takes more than just guesswork imo, i prefer to look at current form and conditions before i decide what score a match will be rather than just tossing a coin, therefore i think correct score deserves more points as it takes more analysis than just 'picking a winner'
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All right, All right. It was just a suggestion ;) !
I do believe that someone who predicts the winner in 6 matches is better than one who gets the score right on 2 and get the other 4 match winners wrong. The current scoring will get those 2 even. Not sure if that's really right. A set can easily be decided on a net call so it is a bit more uncertain than the outcome of a match.
PS - Actually the guy with only 2 matches right will get 2 +6 = 8 points right? so he even gets ahead of the more consistent guy.
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im sorry i still disagree :lol:
todays match between Jankovic and Venus for example. any idiot could suggest Jankovic would win, as she is the favourite, but anyone that delves into their history can see how their games match up, and see that it is usually a case of switching momentum between the two, hence going to 3 sets, and given Jankovic's current forum, it would be logical to predict Jankovic in three sets. Therefore i think it fair to award the person who looks at the match analyctically the full 3points, and the person who just picks the winner 1 point :)
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Yes there is skill between predicting a close match and a whitewash. I thought Jankovic the fave, but my gut feeling was 3 sets, over which I had no idea who would come through. I just went for Venus cos I could not decide and she's known to fight back over the longer matches but I was wrong. :) perhaps you shoudl give m points for getting the rigt number of sets but the wrong winner Liam.! roflmao
Anyway on some fo the men's, what if there is an obvious fave and you just call it 3-0. however someone thinks ther eis a chance the other player will make a game of it and goes for 3-1 or 3-2 and is right? Undoubtably more skill involved if you ask me. If we were just picking winners, everyone would just go for the faves and play ti safe, and it would be boring. It's realyl guttign when you pick an outsider to go 3-2, and others pick the fave for 3-0, and the fave comes through in 5 sets though. That's what winds me up most! :wacko:
SuperBRAT - June 1, 2007 11:42 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ Jun 1 2007, 11:27 AM) |
| QUOTE (vivahate @ May 31 2007, 11:16 PM) | | hmm liam, what will you do in london ;) |
well if my hangover today doesnt disppear, i wont be doing much in london :( otherwise its Soho here i come :dancer1: :cheers: :party:
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Soho eh? Hope you are going to behave yourself young man, that's a dodgy place :D
Tenez - June 1, 2007 12:05 PM (GMT)
No I don't think there is much skills as just being lucky. Federer for instance could have lost one set v Ascione due to many unpredictable factors. If we take the Venus Jankovic match, it went to 3 sets but could have easily been a 2 settter and only 2 points decided otherwise when Jelenan was 30 all serving for 5 all.
So I agree that having the score right is great and doubling the points of finding the winner is a great bonus but having triple point? Not sure. Skills? Luck? that is the question but what skills has he if he gets more matches wrong.
Just for the sake of discussing cause Fed v Starace is pretty one-sided...so far. Who wants to go for Fed in 5 sets roflmao
liam_valid - June 1, 2007 12:10 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tenez @ Jun 1 2007, 01:05 PM) |
No I don't think there is much skills as just being lucky. Federer for instance could have lost one set v Ascione due to many unpredictable factors. If we take the Venus Jankovic match, it went to 3 sets but could have easily been a 2 settter and only 2 points decided otherwise when Jelenan was 30 all serving for 5 all.
So I agree that having the score right is great and doubling the points of finding the winner is a great bonus but having triple point? Not sure. Skills? Luck? that is the question but what skills has he if he gets more matches wrong.
Just for the sake of discussing cause Fed v Starace is pretty one-sided...so far. Who wants to go for Fed in 5 sets roflmao |
but the point is, it DID go to 3 sets. maybe you think predicting that was luck, but i dont believe in luck, the match panned out just as i would have predicted looking at the facts
liam_valid - June 1, 2007 01:08 PM (GMT)
Day 4 Results, due to unfinished matches, scores out of 60:
Lleyton Hewitt (AUS)[14] vs. Gaston Gaudio (ARG)3-2
Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA) vs. Gilles Simon (FRA)u/f
Novak Djokovic (SRB)[6] vs. Laurent Recouderc (FRA)3-1
Flavio Cipolla (ITA) vs. Rafael Nadal (ESP)[2]0-3
Marcos Baghdatis (CYP)[16] vs. Kristian Pless (DEN)3-0
Carlos Moya (ESP)[23] vs. Florent Serra (FRA)3-0
Stanislas Wawrinka (SUI) vs. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO)[7]1-3
Dmitry Tursunov (RUS)[21] vs. Fernando Verdasco (ESP)0-3
Mathieu Montcourt (FRA) vs. Jarkko Nieminen (FIN)[20]u/f
Diego Hartfield (ARG) vs. David Ferrer (ESP)[12]0-3
Ivo Karlovic (CRO) vs. Jonas Bjorkman (SWE)u/f
Oscar Hernandez (ESP) vs. Philipp Kohlschreiber (GER)[28]3-0
Jan Hajek (CZE) vs. Bohdan Ulihrach (CZE)3-1
Milagros Sequera (VEN) vs. Serena Williams (USA)[8]0-2
Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)[5] vs. Nathalie Dechy (FRA)2-1
Meghann Shaughnessy (USA) vs. Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS)[3]u/f
Ana Ivanovic (SRB)[7] vs. Sania Mirza (IND)2-0
Agnes Szavay (HUN) vs. Anna Chakvetadze (RUS)[9]u/f
Vera Dushevina (RUS) vs. Katarina Srebotnik (SLO)[17]0-2
Olga Poutchkova (RUS) vs. Daniela Hantuchova (SVK)[12]u/f
Patty Schnyder (SUI)[14] vs. Kateryna Bondarenko (UKR)2-0
Garrigues (ESP)[24] vs. Elena Likhovtseva (RUS)2-0
Nicole Pratt (AUS) vs. Lucie Safarova (CZE)[25]0-2
Shahar Peer (ISR)[15] vs. Edina Gallovits (ROU)2-0
Ai Sugiyama (JPN)[21] vs. Meilen Tu (USA)u/f
Karin Knapp (ITA) vs. Alona Bondarenko (UKR)[22]2-1
Jill Craybas vs Maria Sharapova (RUS) [2] 0-2
Daily SCores:
Fah 42
Liam 40
SW 38
Viva 37
Wie 37
Scolios 33
Roysie 31
SB 31
WA 28
Another daily win for Fah :gwin:
Leaderboard:
Fah 176
Wise 169
Viva 163
SW 153
Liam 151
Scolios 149
SB 146
WA 133
Roysie 120
Felix 66
Dav 13
And Fah is storming ahead :dancer1:
fah51 - June 1, 2007 01:14 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| Jan Hajek (CZE) vs. Bohdan Ulihrach (CZE)3-1 |
Sorry to do this to you again liam, especially with your hangover, but the above result was 3-2 Hajek. I've never been in the lead before so every point counts ;)
liam_valid - June 1, 2007 01:26 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (fah51 @ Jun 1 2007, 02:14 PM) |
| QUOTE | | Jan Hajek (CZE) vs. Bohdan Ulihrach (CZE)3-1 |
Sorry to do this to you again liam, especially with your hangover, but the above result was 3-2 Hajek. I've never been in the lead before so every point counts ;)
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oh crap :angry: roflmao its too late for me to edit so will adjust tonight :)
EDIT: it only affects you me and SW so i will do it now :)
Fah 44
SW 40
Liam 38
Viva 37
Wie 37
Scolios 33
Roysie 31
SB 31
WA 28
Leaderboard:
Fah 178
Wise 169
Viva 163
SW 155
Liam 149
Scolios 149
SB 146
WA 133
Roysie 120
Felix 66
Dav 13
fah51 - June 1, 2007 01:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| oh crap its too late for me to edit so will adjust tonight |
Thanks :ok: You're doing a great job, especially given the appaling weather conditions!
liam_valid - June 1, 2007 01:38 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (fah51 @ Jun 1 2007, 02:31 PM) |
| QUOTE | | oh crap its too late for me to edit so will adjust tonight |
Thanks :ok: You're doing a great job, especially given the appaling weather conditions!
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and my alcohol dependancy :lol:
liam_valid - June 1, 2007 01:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ Jun 1 2007, 02:38 PM) |
| QUOTE (fah51 @ Jun 1 2007, 02:31 PM) | | QUOTE | | oh crap its too late for me to edit so will adjust tonight |
Thanks :ok: You're doing a great job, especially given the appaling weather conditions!
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and my alcohol dependancy :lol:
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aaahhh, i got my results from the bbc, and it missed the second set (6-1) off. #remembers to use RG site for results in future# :rolleyes:
vivahate - June 1, 2007 01:49 PM (GMT)
do you need a hand with this while you are gone liam??
liam_valid - June 1, 2007 01:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (vivahate @ Jun 1 2007, 02:49 PM) |
| do you need a hand with this while you are gone liam?? |
yes i was gonna pm you. i am going to try and get to an internet cafe, but if i havent posted the matches by around 9pm then you can do it please :)
vivahate - June 1, 2007 02:01 PM (GMT)
liam_valid - June 1, 2007 02:04 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (vivahate @ Jun 1 2007, 03:01 PM) |
| pas de probleme :D |
merci beaucoup :P
SuperBRAT - June 1, 2007 02:26 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tenez @ Jun 1 2007, 12:05 PM) |
No I don't think there is much skills as just being lucky. Federer for instance could have lost one set v Ascione due to many unpredictable factors. If we take the Venus Jankovic match, it went to 3 sets but could have easily been a 2 settter and only 2 points decided otherwise when Jelenan was 30 all serving for 5 all.
So I agree that having the score right is great and doubling the points of finding the winner is a great bonus but having triple point? Not sure. Skills? Luck? that is the question but what skills has he if he gets more matches wrong.
Just for the sake of discussing cause Fed v Starace is pretty one-sided...so far. Who wants to go for Fed in 5 sets roflmao |
I do take your point but you can get just as lucky if not more easly lucky, byt simply picking winners. There's less to judge in just picking a player than picking the scoreline.
Tenez - June 1, 2007 03:58 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (SuperBRAT @ Jun 1 2007, 03:26 PM) |
| There's less to judge in just picking a player than picking the scoreline. |
This is true SB and this is why I believe my suggested scoring is fairer . I am not saying that getting the scoreline right should be worth little or nothing but double points..triple is a bit too much. This would be enough to make the difference between those who have got winners right and those who don't.
Take the Ferrero v Youshny match today for instance. More got the winner wrong that right. This means it is far from being easy in most cases and less down to luck than having the scoreline right. Cause if the majority can’t get the winner right, imagine the science needed to have the scoreline right!? And why not give 100 points if we give the number of games right? Now you might say more expertise is needed for that…I simply say more luck would be!
Now if between those who have it right we give double points for scoreline, it is a good bonus (well done btw on this one, cause you have it right) why tripling the points?
SuperBRAT - June 1, 2007 04:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tenez @ Jun 1 2007, 03:58 PM) |
| QUOTE (SuperBRAT @ Jun 1 2007, 03:26 PM) | | There's less to judge in just picking a player than picking the scoreline. |
This is true SB and this is why I believe my suggested scoring is fairer . I am not saying that getting the scoreline right should be worth little or nothing but double points..triple is a bit too much. This would be enough to make the difference between those who have got winners right and those who don't.
Take the Ferrero v Youshny match today for instance. More got the winner wrong that right. This means it is far from being easy in most cases and less down to luck than having the scoreline right. Cause if the majority can’t get the winner right, imagine the science needed to have the scoreline right!? And why not give 100 points if we give the number of games right? Now you might say more expertise is needed for that…I simply say more luck would be!
Now if between those who have it right we give double points for scoreline, it is a good bonus (well done btw on this one, cause you have it right) why tripling the points?
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AsI say I can see your point. :) Maybe triple is generous but personally I like it that way, makes you think a bit and sometimes take a few risks on potential upsets for those points. Anyway enjoy it because we were the only 2 players who got 3-1 to Youzhny so can't be all bad.:D
SuperBRAT - June 1, 2007 09:26 PM (GMT)
Have we had day 5 results?
vivahate - June 2, 2007 12:56 PM (GMT)
day 5 results - including 6 matches that carried over from day 4 - so total points available was 63...
DAY 4 CARRY OVERS...
Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA) vs. Gilles Simon (FRA) 3-2
Mathieu Montcourt (FRA) vs. Jarkko Nieminen (FIN) 0-3
Ivo Karlovic (CRO) vs. Jonas Bjorkman (SWE) 2-3
Meghann Shaughnessy (USA) vs. Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS) 0-2
Agnes Szavay (HUN) vs. Anna Chakvetadze (RUS) 1-2
Ai Sugiyama (JPN)[21] vs. Meilen Tu (USA) 2-1
DAY 5 RESULTS...
Jelena Jankovic (SRB)[4] vs. Venus Williams (USA) 2-1
Roger Federer (SUI)[1] vs. Potito Starace (ITA) 3-0
Gael Monfils (FRA)vs. David Nalbandian (ARG) 1-3
Justine Henin (BEL)[1]vs. Mara Santangelo (ITA) 2-0
Nikolay Davydenko (RUS)[4] vs. Michael Llodra (FRA) 3-0
Marion Bartoli (FRA)[18] vs. Elena Dementieva (RUS) 2-0
Michaella Krajicek (NED) vs. Serena Williams (USA) 0-2
Stephanie Cohen-Aloro (FRA) vs. Tathiana Garbin (ITA) 0-2
Filippo Volandri (ITA)[29] vs. Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) 3-2
Dinara Safina (RUS)[10] vs. Francesca Schiavone (ITA) 2-1
Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)[17] vs. Mikhail Youzhny (RUS) 1-3
Samantha Stosur (AUS)[27] vs. Nicole Vaidisova (CZE) 0-2
Tommy Robredo (ESP)[9] vs. Janko Tipsarevic (SRB) 3-0
Olga Poutchkova (RUS) vs. Daniela Hantuchova (SVK) 0-2
Sybille Bammer (AUT)[20]vs. Na Li (CHN) 2-0
Daily Scores...
Wise 42
Fah 41
Liam 41
SW19 40
Viva 40
Scolios 39
SuperBRAT 36
Roysie 33
Tenez 31
Welshboy 26
WimbAce 7
Overall...
Fah 219
Wise 211
Viva 203
SW19 195
Liam 190
Scolios 188
SuperBRAT 182
Roysie 153
WimbACE 140
Felix 66
Tenez 31
Welshboy 26
Dav 13
if any scores are wrong, please feel free to let me know :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: