So....Andy Murray, future talent, foul mouthed and angry,young ,overrated player?

What d'ya think?

A lot of things to be said about murray...

I think he's read way too much of his own press, whatever he says. He thinks he is much bigger than he is at the moment and NOBODY can tell him what to do. I suspect having a mother who also played top tennis doesn't help in this. Why he got rid of Mark Petchey heaven only know, Petch seemed to be doing a great job and always has a relaxed but firm attitude which should have been perfect for Andy, but it seems he thinks he knows better.

He has to work on his fitness, that's for sure. I think he just thought he'd get the fitness as he got older and not have to work at it. He's wrong. he must work harder there.

Another noticeable thing is that he is saying things to the press which, although admirable in the fact that he speaks his mind, really he should keep to himself. He needs as much support as he can get, if the press turn against him here he will be in trouble.


On a tennis note, the last few times i've seen him, he has been way too negative and defensive in his strategy. He is a counter-puncher in essence, but at the moment he is doing nothing with the ball most of the time, and he is capable of far better if he is just a little more aggressive. He should have beaten Monfils at RG for instance.

He has enormous talent and in my eyes, top 10 potential. but his attitude must improve. He must get a top coach appointed and LISTEN to what he tells him. And he must work on his fitness too. Then we may have a slam champion developing. :D

My thoughts are that he could be good, but i think he really made a mistake by getting shot of Petchey.

I am also slightly unconvinced regarding his "injuries", if they are genuine then i apologise, but i'm not convinced!

I do think he could win a title this year:

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anyone else want to pass their knowledge onto here?

we are a tennis board all said and done! roflmao

Okay then.

Murray does have talent for sure and he has shown that he does have the mentality to achieve great things. His rise up the rankings was astonishing, and no accident. You don't climb hundreds of places in your first season on tour if you are not talented and hard working. The problem now though is that he really has to step up a gear and knuckle down now that he has got himself into that position. it is tougher in the top echelons and he has ranking points to defend, so it is make or break. It must eb hard fo rhim to handle, as he coudl nto have expceted that kind of rise in a season, and back then there was nothing to lose, and now things are diferent.

Watching him play recently, I see problems with lack of confidence at times and lack of ability to make a decision as to how to play and close out a point. He can become passive and needs to attack more. He is good at soakign up the power as a counterpuncher, but he is nto doign anythign with it. He is nto forcing the error nor is he hitting the winner. And a problem for me is that when he does go for the winner sometimes he does nto have the power to make it a winner, and gets passed. His mental state is questionable at times and of cours ehis fitness is a problem. Years back I doubt it would have mattered but nowadays the top players are extremely fit. it may be that he cannot do a lot to improve this though, as sadly some people can naturally develop much better fitness than others. He is rather thin and sadly it looks to me like that is genetic and he will nto build much muscle even if he tries. He NEEDS a coach now, as mcuh to mentor him as to train him, as the poor lad looks confused and lost at times.

His postive aspects to me are many, he is a diamond in the rough. His speed is good, and he has good instincts. I do liek the way he strikes the ball, it does seem quite effortless and he can slice well. He performs a very good dropshot, but he needs to polish it up even more as it has cost him when ti goes wrong. He does have a decent amount of touch unliek many players, and this needs to be honed to and coudl develop into a very good weapon. He hit soe nice winners yesterday when he was playing aggressively and positvely. I also think that last year's exploits show us he is mentally tough, but he needs to get on now and sort himself out so that he can become more consitent both mentality and with his racquet.

Basically he could flourish or bomb - and either one just as easily as the other. I do hope he does well, as british tennis really needs him rght now. :pray:

After all of those positive thoughts... he's just lost to Tipsarevic, 6-2 in the third :o :(

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"He NEEDS a coach now, as mcuh to mentor him as to train him, as the poor lad looks confused and lost at times."

SPot on Post SB, i do think it's there for him to do IF HE (or Judy) wants to .

In life I qouldn't usually say this too lightly, but I think his mother is a disruptive influence to him to be honest as well

Murray is a typically ugly Scot who has not much of a future...Tsiparevic is a lot better :ok:

Welcome Forza :)

Ta Styeffo.

Hello Forza. welcome. :) Woudl your post have anything to do with Tipsarevic being from close to your homeland? :D Btw I am nto so sure about Tipsarevic's play being so great, but I do like his image - interesting eyebrow piercings etc. and nice tatoos.

People focus on murray's mental side, which lets face it is appaling at times, but his technical side needs working on as well.

Serve- Jerky motion that only goes one way, to the backhand either down the middle or out-wide. Very predictable and Tipsarevic picked his spots today.

Forehand- The better shot, but lacks consistency in matches. Too much over-wrist rotation and doesnt measure the shot very well.

Backhand- This is the best shot for murray. Good hip and body rotation into the follow-through and take take it on both ways, down the line or cross-court.

Dropshot- Too over-used for murray. Too much height on it as well and not enough disguise.

I think people have to see that murray is not the phenomonan that people perceive him to be. He needs a lot of work IMo, which is why the Beeb's constant over-hype is doing him no favours. he'll either sink or swim, and he cant just live off a San Jose win.......

the serve of Murrays has a lot of raw pace on it, but at the moment it is far too inconsistent and for me his 1st serve % isn't high enough. However serving is one thing that can definitely improve with age.

Another great example this week eh?

He has some talents for sure, but unless his head get's sorted :blink:

Well, I would agree with most of what has been posted here, esp the detailed and considered analysis by SB.

A friend of mine works in a tennis shop which has been frequented by Murrary and his Mum for many years. From what my friend has said, he's been that moody, stubborn teenager ever since he's picked up a racquet in anger (as it were).

I've heard a few stories about this. One time, when his mum was picking things for her son, he was on the other side of the shop, playing his gameboy. When his mum asked him: 'Andy, what do you think of.. (referral to some clothing I think)?', his response from the other side of the shop (and there were a few people around)? 'F**k off, can't you see I'm busy?!'. or words to that effect.

It's a little insght into how he is, and serves to confirm most of the observations made. He has the talent, he has the oppportunities, and all of the support that a top tennis player could possibly wish to have. But the phrase about taking a horse to water springs to mind..

Murray Says he needs guidance.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/5142844.stm

To be fair, when he dumped Petchey, i said i thought it was a wrong move....line up someone before getting rid of your coach, or stick with them.

After watching him in his last two matches at Wimby, Id say most of the comments are spot on ! He definitely has the talent , and is a good counterpuncher but needs to pick the moment to be aggressive and force the issue more. He does seem to lack the physical strength to do that though.
Plus I can believe that story about the shop ... seems to likes the f word . roflmao

Plus, he seems to have brought the dropshot right back into fashion on grass. Baggy used it today , not always so successfully though B)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/5212912.stm....

shame i loved the way the hair went with the brace!

"We have one world-class player in Andy and he can't win matches on his own."

Jeremy Bates...So has Greg retired?

And if Murray can't win matches on his own...why is he in the singles at all?

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roflmao I know, i saw that comment and my eyebrows raised a little!

Well lets be honest, Greg has been a spent force for about 5 years so i dont think Bates was that far off the mark really roflmao

Ah, poor Greg! Well at least he gives his all for DC which is more than can be said for Alex Bogdanovic! roflmao

Dont get me started on him SB roflmao What a waste of funding, talent and space he is roflmao

Bogdanovic is a complete waste of space and an embarressment to British tennis

An embarrasment to british tennis - no thats guys like Robert Dee and Adam whatshisface who get their rich fathers to buy them wildcards and consistenly get 0&0'd.

I think you lot are being too harsh on Bogdanovic...he actually looks set to break the top 100, currently at something like 140 and the autumn European indoor circuit tends to be one of the best parts of the year for him. And to be fair to those who say he isn't committed to Davis Cup, he gave up the opportunity to be number 1 seed at two challengers which if he had done well in he would have almost certainly broken into the top 100 so thats inacurate. He isn't as hopeless as you lot are making out - he just doesnt seem to be able to cope at the moment with the pressure of the davis cup. He's beaten good players this year (Seppi WR 69, Kunitsyn WR 99, Hajek WR 78) which shows that he is capable of beating some good players. Still only 22 - i can see him figuring in british tennis quite a lot in the next few years.

whos Robert Dee?

A brit who is ranked something like 1300, because his rich father buys him a wildcard in tennis tournaments (futures) in third world countries esp in South america which allows him to get 1 ranking point (even if he loses the next round). That allows him to then qualify for other tournaments - though i think hes never won a match in his life ... all 6-0 6-0 or 6-1 6-0 etc against players ranked like 1000-1300. His LTA ranking is something like 4.2 but in reality its closer to 8.5 but since he manages to buy his way into tournaments, the sheer volume of tennis played boost his LTA ranking.

That just shows that there is corruption in British tennis. Mkk, thats a very fast time, mine would have to be clocked in hours.

Mkk, click here your not far off....

Shocking! What a waster though, you'd think he'd feel embarrassed about it and realsie what a fraud he is and go of an do something he has a talent for rather than wasting time at tennis. Sad.

haha lol i wish. half a minute is a lifetime in middle distance running!

I will be pleased if i get down to say 3.50-3.53....

I just thought id prop this thread up - not about murray but Boggo. He should be british number three now after beating Alejandro Falla 63 62. He plays Sluiter in the next round. THe dutch number 1 i think so who knows? Alex might get a DC recall if he wins. Wouldnt hold your breath.