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"Women blamed for bad TV

Eccentric astronomer Sir Patrick Moore has claimed that TV is worse today because the BBC is run by women.

Sir Patrick, 84, criticised the BBC for showing interesting programmes late at night, especially the 650th edition of The Sky At Night, which he presents.

The TV veteran said he would "rather be dead in a ditch" than appear on Celebrity Big Brother and he compared the soap opera EastEnders to diarrhoea."

roflmao :o

I don't know what people think about whether women are the root cause of the problem of bad TV or not, but his other two points are pretty amusing! He's certainly got it right about Big Brother!

And as for Eastenders being compared to diarrhoea, I know where he's coming from - in both cases it's a continual stream of the same old s***!

By the way, massive congrats to super Patrick on 50 years of the Sky of night - this man is a true legend if ever there was one, and he has a great sense of humour too! :D :bow:

Hmmm I think he's crossed the line from loveable eccentric to misogynistic bigot with these comments.

Then again he's supposedly a member of the BNP so no big shock there really!

Thankfully the BBC have banished the Sky At Night to the outer reaches of the schedule so he can be easily avoided.

I like having women commenting on sport but I don't like fashion dictating it. It now seems that all TV channels "must have" women for sport commentaries. I think the best commentators should run the programs..irrelevant of their gender...which I don't thing is the case now.

He's not a member of the BNP GS2 - have you read his Autobiography?

I think what Tenez says is true in some senses - and in today's society no-one is allowed to say it as they see it.

As many of you will be aware, Jacqui Oatley did her first commentary of a men's premiership match for match of the day a couple of weeks back. Now, having seen her on women's football, I know that she is not a very good commentator. It has nothing to do with Gender, it is just that, like some of her male counterparts, her reactions to incidents were horribly delayed, even for the goals in the game.

The other thing is, on men's football commentaries, many people just prefer a man's voice commentating. More adrenalin tends to flow, and it is perhaps a bit more spontaneous with all the testosterone!. My mum said it was a crazy stunt and she is usually all for equality. And she's not alone.

Patrick Moore's comments are obviously a bit too generalised, it's more a shot across the bows more than anything else. And he is still a legend! :D :bow:

Let's be honest, Sir. Patrick is losing it.... :shrug:

I just want to see him play the Xylophone again......

although slightly better than this odd you tube vid....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK77QSZJ1xs

what a load of old bollocks.

Sir P maybe a legend, but his comment is rubbish - tv fluctuates between worth a look and giving a big fat miss - nothing to do with women. Its the public that dictates whats on. If they like it, they watch it, the show gets recommissioned. They dont like it, they relegate it to some weird hour (sound familiar Sir P?) before taking it off air altogether.

Clearly women rule - my daughter told me!

When I read this title quickly I thought it said Sir Matchstick blames women for bad TV roflmao

:shrug: i blame the BBC for bad TV, and as far as i know, the top brass at the BEEB are men

I don't think it is the fault of the women - it just seems that a lot more programmes are being aimed at women, and the men who make them don't think much of the women's intelligence, and so they churn out rubbish like Big Brother and Pop Idol and endless DIY, cooking and gardening shows. I know that women in the real world are perfectly capable of enjoying decent programmes, but none of those women ever seem to be included in the focus groups.

These comments are printed in this week's Radio Times, and ignoring the women and TV bit ('cos it's just so obviously tripe), there were some other brilliant comments about Big Brother. My favourite was David Tennant when asked whether, if he was really hard up, he would prefer to appear on CBB or Strictly Come Dancing? He said

"Couldn't I just take a pill?" :giggle:

out of the mouths of babes and sucklings (and mini Pebs)
cometh tears and cometh chucklings (and slagging celebs)

:lol:

Can't disagree with that Pebs ;)

definitely!

The BBC is awful these days for my money - no proper original ideas, just obsessed with celebrity!

ITV is usually the channel we revert to, well as far as terrestrial channels go! In fact we usually revert to challenge TV! roflmao

I must admit in all of this - Patrick is most definitely correct about Eastenders and Big Brother!

And he's still a legend ;)

Very true roflmao

Just going to comment further on the middle line of this - Patrick is actually a patron of UKIP (UK Independance Party), which is a respectable party unlike the racist bigots in the BNP.

I thought it was very shallow of yourself to try and taint him in this way GS2. But of course you won't accept your error, it was a cheap shot.

Uh I only said suposedly, some people who I work with were pretty sure he was.

If that's not the case I have no problem being wrong though you haven't proved he's not.

Oh and anyone that thinks UKIP is a normal mainstream party really doesn't know what they are talking about. Have a look at the extreme parties they cozy up to in the European parliament.

Anyone it doesn't matter what party he is a member of it doesn't excuse what he said about women in any way. The man is scum.

the BNP and UKIP are still poles apart! UKIP are not a normal mainstream party, no. But the BNP are racists, UKIP aren't really, they just want britain to be in total control of it's destiny. Mind i'd never vote for them, just a wasted vote!

http://www.ukipdorset.org/patron.htm

I do also get the feeling you've based your "scum" opnion on this one comment :rolleyes:

He's a member of UKIP & a misogynistic bigot - that's all the reasons I need to call him scum.

roflmao ok get on with it!

He's still right about Big Brother and Eastenders ;)

Maybe I'm a philistine,but I don't remember ever watching the 'Sky At Night'.Sir Patrick may be a genius,but he's also obviously a misogynist with some pretty outdated views on the subject of women.Can't say I disagree with his opinion of CBB though.

By the way, at no stage have I agreed with his views on women running the BBC - it does seem a bit of a generalised random quip!

I watch Sky at night - but then i'm doing astronomy in my degree so it's useful to!

Well,on the positive side at least his remark is a blow against the stiffling political correctness which is prevalent today.There is also something pleasing about his eccentricity

Well that's kindof why I don't hold it against him that much - he may be wrong, but it's nice to see people who speak their mind, too few do that today.

I actually find it pleasant that society these days generally doesn't take kindly to people speaking their mind, if their mind is bigotted or prejudiced. Those who find it refreshing are often like-minded.

Amusing wind-up attempt Mr Havoc - in Britain there are many many people sick of political correctness, which is a lot of the time about preventing people from saying what they think.

I coach tennis, as you know, and obviously to do that job you have to be totally totally impartial, and I am, so don't try and fob me off as a bigot. Nobody can tell on an internet forum what each other is actually like in the real world, face-to-face. No doubt there is some absolute scum on here, but we don't really know who! ;)

Bet they're not a Federer fan though ;)

i'm not that much in love with roger al! :D

And by the way, the love affair with Sharapova has ended... the end of an era! :o

She gets injured so has a bit of a slump and you stop supporting her, a bit fickle :rolleyes:

Nah it's not that, I have love anyway now :wub: :wub: :wub:

I just won't support her so vigourously, though I will defend her if people start shooting at her again!!

Ah so the era isn't over really ;)

yup - love is in the air :wub:

Great post :clap:

I do admire Partrick Moore for his eccentricity and enthusiasm, and think it is great that he has managed to run a show for so long on a subject that is not trendy TV. He's right BB is dire, personally I enjoy Eastenders - it's so funny - but each to their own. However, blaming crap TV on women is just outrageous and he should have kept his fat trap shut on that one! Crap TV is created by men too, I mean look how many years of macho drivel we had to watch before women got more involved. And seeign women always in inferior roles and those who wer eon Tv havign to conform to harmless, unthreatening and pretty stereotypes that men liked, not women.

Anyway TV being crap is a result of commercial interest rather than anything else. And our non stop hunger for more channels has lowered the quality in this country just as we always knew it would.

If he wants to expand his horizons I will give him a book to read called Boxed In: Women and Television, then he might be able to talk some sense once he's absorbed the facts.

Maybe he has his evil eyepiece on when he said it roflmao

Eastenders is just like Diarrhoea - same old crap being churned out and nothing you can do to stop it roflmao

Wel,'East Enders' is quality TV compared to those dreadful chat shows where 2 complete morons come on to thrash out their marital problems in front of the viewers.ITV seems to specialise in them.Now that really is the pits in TV terms.Can't understand how they can find people willing to present such rubbish.

I can't understand how they find people to appear on those shows! I can't say it would be my idea of good therapy - having all my personal problems aired on national TV! :blink:

Good post, but I'm nto convinced that reality shows are aimed at women. I seem to see more men that are BB fans on here and among my mates for sure. And Pop Idl appeals to both. Gardening and DIY shows and all your home make over shows are nto really just for women either. Gardener's World was a quality show that was on for years and I'd say back then more men watched than women. As they did with DIY shows.

But what you say gives me an interesting thought - people may disagree but I think that shows related to home interests and lifestyle, like interior design and decoration, gardening, home improvment and even cooking, have become of mixed gender interest these days. Men and women are much more equally involved in such things compared to in the past when women stayed at home and ran the house and raised the kids. And they've made these programmes aspirational rather than just practical. this approach involves men and women as it's target audience, after all both have lifestyle aspirations. And we also have a lot fo shows where the emphasis is on makign money from the home, by improving your own or developing property or working as an interior designer. Money making of course appeals to all, and through this they have cunningly dragged men into the audience. I might eb talkign out fo turn here, and please say so if you think so, but in my experince, men are nto interested in seeing how to do practical things round the house unless you make them exciting and involve a reward liek money! :D At least men in my age group anyhow.

Also with cooking they've made it very trendy and macho in some cases. We've lost Fanny Craddock and Delia, and have Gordon Ramsey, Gary Rhodes, Rick Stein (who I hate btw), Ainsley Harriot, and the gorgeous James Martin who can cook for me any time :wub: And a whole host of others who are very masculine in that they are competative and hardly modest. A few yeasr back all teh new breed of Tv chefs were doing something different that appealed to men, liek Jamie Oliver and his (annoying) laddishness, Ramsay (who I do enjoy watching)and his no shit appraoch and loads of swearing, Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall (who i love, very different) travelling round in a caravan hunting his dinner off the land and cooking it on a camp stove, and dare I say it eating placentas and dead pet fish! roflmao And now we have the Hairy Bikers cooking, that is just so male. Gardening became more rock and roll with that annoying so called gardener Darmuid Gavin, who is more interested in building wierd concrete structures than composting and propagation. i reckon a lot fo this was to attract a male audience, not benefit females at all, but it is all entertaining nonetheless. :)

What I really hate that is aimed at women are these magaizine shows where they give us fashion buys that will nto suit us but the young and very skinny, make up tips, plastic surgery etc and interview some star who is of no interest whatsoever to me. What cracks me up is that on the saem show you can see such contradictions, like some dodgy quick fix diet coupled by an interview with a recovering anorexic, or an update on cosmetic surgey followed by a review of cosmetic surgey disasters and a warning abotu the whole thing. Does my head in, it really does. roflmao

roflmao Yeah I just watch for fun. its so OTT and silly in many ways that that is the only way to take it. Eastenders cursed itself most by bringing back Dirty Den when he'd been dead for 20 years. And he was such a flop that they had to kill him off agoin. teh first time he was killed with a bunch of daffodills, the second time with doggy doorstop! roflmao

I find it all very pantomime. :D

roflmao Yeah and they tale lie detector tests in full public view to prove whether they are havign affairs or not. :yikes: