Does anyone has these stats?
For the past 3.5 years ever since he got to No.1

And maybe Sampras's stats too.

For crying out loud man, give it a rest!

You're obsessed, aren't you!!

For the record, Fed definitely has one of if not the highest success in saving break points over the last few years. :ok:

I'm sure that Sampras did too. :rolleyes:

Comes with being a tennis champion: playing well when the pressure is on. But some people fail to recognise that Fed is a great champion.. :whistle:

But given that the courts have slowed down over the years, it is more difficult to save break points via big serves.

With that in mind I woulnd't be surprised if more players' serves were broken then they were 10 years ago

The greater saver of break points I've ever seen (greater than Federer and Sampras) was Mr Bjorn Borg.

Was just curious thats all.
no offence to anyone.

Federer is great at saving break/set points. If there are any stats on it, it would be great to compare against other tennis greats.

I looked at the atp website and it wasn't.

I'd say that it probably is a feature of a tennis great. all boils down to performing when the heat is on.

As Nick C pointed out Bjorn Borg was indeed excellent at saving break points. And my memory is hazy on this, but Johnny Mac didn't seem too bad on this either.

I know that both federer and Sampras also win an extraordiarily high amount of points on their second serves compared to all of their opponents.. No doubt both Fed and Sampras saved a lot of break points on their second serve too.. a very impressive thing to do.. :ok:

There should be some stats kicking around somewhere, and I would have thought that the ATP site would have had something.. maybe there is someone around who knows such stuff?? :shrug:

For what it's worth, here are the ATP current statistics on service and return games:

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/matchfacts/

Fed was 79th (out of 86) of successful savers of break-points, saving only 51% :o

Federer was 26th of successful converters of break-points, converting only 44% :o

So, unbelievably though it may seem, when opponents were playing Fed they were more likely than not to defend a bp that he gained on their serve, and they were pretty much evens in winning one that he faced on his serve.

What does this tell us?

That choice of statistic is everything because you need to know:

a. how many bp's he faces (I'll bet not many) and how many he conjures up (I'll bet many); and,

b. that he was 5th in service games won and 3rd in return games won and nobody else was anything like so high in each of those two categories (I think that Gonzo is next, respectively at 10th and 14th).

The big points when Fed is serving over that statistical survey were therefore when he was on 15-30, 30-30, and Deuce. He must have won an inordinate number of those points, but felt a bit unhappy if his opponent got beyond that to bp against.

And the deeper you go in a tournament, the more you come up against good returners etc. Diego Hartfield has better return of 1st serve statistics but didn't face Roddick in a grand slam semi final, or Gonzalez in a final (or Youzhny and Haas last week.)

The most interesting is 2nd serve success. It can look innocuous but opponents can't seem to put it away.

I think I agree about 2nd Serve success, particularly when the two most noted practitioners are Sampras and Federer (Nadal is good in his 2nd serve too). It must give the server so much confidence and, correspondingly, be so distracting to the receiver to know that the door is not really being opened when the first serve does not go in.

Oh absolutely! Federer's serving is very clever. He neutralises his oppponent's attacking options on the 2nd serve with perhaps good placement.. or a kick serve out wide.. and his excelllent defence deals with the rest.

I'm not surprised by Fed's relatively low standings in the break point conversions and break points saved. The stats are based only on the year to date, and certainly his break point conversion rate in Dubai was very low indeed, as I think was his first serve percentage. Most of his opponents played well, and seemed to take whatever chances that they had to break Fed's serve.

So as the stats are based on just a dozen or so matches for most players, I think that some of them are a little misleading.. but there certainly is the odd trend in them that may well be telling, e.g. Federer's percentage of matches won on serve and number of breaks of serve.

I'd be interested to see if there were similar statistics over the whole of last year, say, or each of the last 3 years. It could be interesting in terms of trend, seeing how the top players have developed.