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Title: Murray v Karlovic
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yorkshire - February 18, 2007 12:38 PM (GMT)
What time does this start? And is it being shown on BBC interactive or anything?!

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 12:42 PM (GMT)
Starts at 11pm uk time 3pm california time. available on sapopentennis.com for a fee.

GO IVO !

Scotsguy - February 18, 2007 12:54 PM (GMT)
MURRAY!! MURRAY!!! :yahoo:

I reckon it'l be something along the lines of 7-5 7-6.....or 6-4 7-5...To Andy

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 12:57 PM (GMT)
IVO IVO IVO :yahoo:

He's gonna be top 100 after this week you know!

:)

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 12:59 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 06:57 AM)
IVO IVO IVO :yahoo:

He's gonna be top 100 after this week you know!

:)

76 76 to karlovic

Scotsguy - February 18, 2007 01:01 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:57 PM)
IVO IVO IVO :yahoo:

He's gonna be top 100 after this week you know!

:)

Around 70-ish won't he be???

It's good to see Ivo back on track...hopefully his grasscourt season will be better this year :ok:


But-Murray all the way!!!

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 01:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Scotsguy @ Feb 18 2007, 07:01 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:57 PM)
IVO IVO IVO :yahoo:

He's gonna be top 100 after this week you know!

:)

Around 70-ish won't he be???

It's good to see Ivo back on track...hopefully his grasscourt season will be better this year :ok:


But-Murray all the way!!!

I reckon he'll be 60's once he wins today.... :)

Looks like the clever money is on Murray to win this... although this guy has only got a 50% success rate this week! (clipped from SAPOpenTennis.com)

"Ivo Karlovic vs. Andy Murray

Raw offense takes on savvy defense. Karlovic is obviously the surprise of the week, the Croat in full bloom, serving massively into every corner and using the kitchen sink to disrupt, attack and, to his credit, annoy his opponents into febrile errors and emotional frustration. Today he does so against a man who’s rapidly emerging as one of the tour’s most engaging players. Murray’s key: As a keen student of the game, he tracks the ball well, and because of that he’s able to move not just with speed but with balance, grace and an innate awareness of what he must do with the ball in just the right way. This is a man who does not fight the ball. He lets it get to where it must and then he has faith in his ability to hit the right shot. The questions: Can he return Karlovic serves to get his way into the points? If Ivo starts firing aces, will Murray vary his return position? Can Karlovic slash enough returns to unsettle Murray? In an odd way, this match could even be decided by who serves first and stays ahead. Murray’s defense is superb, and if he spits back those serves, he’ll take charge of the points. He should do this just enough to earn his second straight SAP Open title. Murray in two."

Murraynator - February 18, 2007 01:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:06 PM)
QUOTE (Scotsguy @ Feb 18 2007, 07:01 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:57 PM)
IVO IVO IVO :yahoo:

He's gonna be top 100 after this week you know!

:)

Around 70-ish won't he be???

It's good to see Ivo back on track...hopefully his grasscourt season will be better this year :ok:


But-Murray all the way!!!

I reckon he'll be 60's once he wins today.... :)

Looks like the clever money is on Murray to win this... although this guy has only got a 50% success rate this week! (clipped from SAPOpenTennis.com)

"Ivo Karlovic vs. Andy Murray

Raw offense takes on savvy defense. Karlovic is obviously the surprise of the week, the Croat in full bloom, serving massively into every corner and using the kitchen sink to disrupt, attack and, to his credit, annoy his opponents into febrile errors and emotional frustration. Today he does so against a man who’s rapidly emerging as one of the tour’s most engaging players. Murray’s key: As a keen student of the game, he tracks the ball well, and because of that he’s able to move not just with speed but with balance, grace and an innate awareness of what he must do with the ball in just the right way. This is a man who does not fight the ball. He lets it get to where it must and then he has faith in his ability to hit the right shot. The questions: Can he return Karlovic serves to get his way into the points? If Ivo starts firing aces, will Murray vary his return position? Can Karlovic slash enough returns to unsettle Murray? In an odd way, this match could even be decided by who serves first and stays ahead. Murray’s defense is superb, and if he spits back those serves, he’ll take charge of the points. He should do this just enough to earn his second straight SAP Open title. Murray in two."

I have to say if there was any other player i would like to win this event apart from Murray it would have to be Karlovic he is the kind of player everyone likes. :) But Murray will win :yahoo:

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 01:15 PM (GMT)
no. no. no. You guys are just not getting this.... Karlovic is to win this one...

Murraynator - February 18, 2007 01:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:15 PM)
no. no. no. You guys are just not getting this.... Karlovic is to win this one...

In your dreams. :P

No one can Stop Andy now let alone a guy whos not even in the top 100 yet. :P

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 01:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:20 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:15 PM)
no. no. no.  You guys are just not getting this.... Karlovic is to win this one...

In your dreams. :P

No one can Stop Andy now let alone a guy whos not even in the top 100 yet. :P

your little avatar looks like the scream painting, which is good, but Karlovic is still gonna win! :pray:

Murraynator - February 18, 2007 01:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:20 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:15 PM)
no. no. no.  You guys are just not getting this.... Karlovic is to win this one...

In your dreams. :P

No one can Stop Andy now let alone a guy whos not even in the top 100 yet. :P

your little avatar looks like the scream painting, which is good, but Karlovic is still gonna win! :pray:

:o Do you want me to change it my avatar?

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 01:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:28 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:20 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:15 PM)
no. no. no.  You guys are just not getting this.... Karlovic is to win this one...

In your dreams. :P

No one can Stop Andy now let alone a guy whos not even in the top 100 yet. :P

your little avatar looks like the scream painting, which is good, but Karlovic is still gonna win! :pray:

:o Do you want me to change it my avatar?

unless your going to change it a pic of karlovic then no... i think its cool!

p.s. Karlovic is going to top 100 aces in this tournament tonight!!!

Murraynator - February 18, 2007 01:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:29 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:28 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:20 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:15 PM)
no. no. no.  You guys are just not getting this.... Karlovic is to win this one...

In your dreams. :P

No one can Stop Andy now let alone a guy whos not even in the top 100 yet. :P

your little avatar looks like the scream painting, which is good, but Karlovic is still gonna win! :pray:

:o Do you want me to change it my avatar?

unless your going to change it a pic of karlovic then no... i think its cool!

p.s. Karlovic is going to top 100 aces in this tournament tonight!!!

Are you Croatian then?You have the right to be confident Ivo has had a great week but you are wasting your energy. :P

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 01:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:33 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:29 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:28 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:20 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:15 PM)
no. no. no.  You guys are just not getting this.... Karlovic is to win this one...

In your dreams. :P

No one can Stop Andy now let alone a guy whos not even in the top 100 yet. :P

your little avatar looks like the scream painting, which is good, but Karlovic is still gonna win! :pray:

:o Do you want me to change it my avatar?

unless your going to change it a pic of karlovic then no... i think its cool!

p.s. Karlovic is going to top 100 aces in this tournament tonight!!!

Are you Croatian then?You have the right to be confident Ivo has had a great week but you are wasting your energy. :P

nope im a happy scotsman! :P

Murraynator - February 18, 2007 01:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:34 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:33 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:29 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:28 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:20 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:15 PM)
no. no. no.  You guys are just not getting this.... Karlovic is to win this one...

In your dreams. :P

No one can Stop Andy now let alone a guy whos not even in the top 100 yet. :P

your little avatar looks like the scream painting, which is good, but Karlovic is still gonna win! :pray:

:o Do you want me to change it my avatar?

unless your going to change it a pic of karlovic then no... i think its cool!

p.s. Karlovic is going to top 100 aces in this tournament tonight!!!

Are you Croatian then?You have the right to be confident Ivo has had a great week but you are wasting your energy. :P

nope im a happy scotsman! :P

And you want Ivo to beat Andy? :o

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 01:41 PM (GMT)
Of course! who wouldnt?

Ace - February 18, 2007 01:41 PM (GMT)
well I know who I'm supporting........GO Ivo!!!!!!!!!!!

Scotsguy - February 18, 2007 01:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 02:29 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:28 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:20 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:15 PM)
no. no. no.  You guys are just not getting this.... Karlovic is to win this one...

In your dreams. :P

No one can Stop Andy now let alone a guy whos not even in the top 100 yet. :P

your little avatar looks like the scream painting, which is good, but Karlovic is still gonna win! :pray:

:o Do you want me to change it my avatar?

unless your going to change it a pic of karlovic then no... i think its cool!

p.s. Karlovic is going to top 100 aces in this tournament tonight!!!

Possibly- He's on 83 now-but I'm not sure he'll hit 17 aces aganst possibly the best returner in the game against first serve-look at atp stats.

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 01:46 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Scotsguy @ Feb 18 2007, 07:43 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 02:29 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:28 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:26 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:20 AM)
QUOTE (ivokarlovicfan @ Feb 18 2007, 01:15 PM)
no. no. no.  You guys are just not getting this.... Karlovic is to win this one...

In your dreams. :P

No one can Stop Andy now let alone a guy whos not even in the top 100 yet. :P

your little avatar looks like the scream painting, which is good, but Karlovic is still gonna win! :pray:

:o Do you want me to change it my avatar?

unless your going to change it a pic of karlovic then no... i think its cool!

p.s. Karlovic is going to top 100 aces in this tournament tonight!!!

Possibly- He's on 83 now-but I'm not sure he'll hit 17 aces aganst possibly the best returner in the game against first serve-look at atp stats.

Hes averaged 21 per match. I think 17 should be within his grasp. I know Murray is the best returner, but he's never played against the Ivo and faced serves from 6'10"

Murraynator - February 18, 2007 01:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ace @ Feb 18 2007, 01:41 PM)
well I know who I'm supporting........GO Ivo!!!!!!!!!!!

Why? :angry:

Scotsguy - February 18, 2007 01:48 PM (GMT)
Murray's no midget either standing at 6ft 3"


Can you imagine a mixed dubs team of Karlo & Henin???

Ace - February 18, 2007 01:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:47 AM)
QUOTE (Ace @ Feb 18 2007, 01:41 PM)
well I know who I'm supporting........GO Ivo!!!!!!!!!!!

Why? :angry:

If Murray wins the tourny he will gain some respect in my books though :P

Murraynator - February 18, 2007 01:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Scotsguy @ Feb 18 2007, 01:48 PM)
Murray's no midget either standing at 6ft 3"


Can you imagine a mixed dubs team of Karlo & Henin???

Karlovic could serve with Henin on his shoulders. roflmao

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 01:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ace @ Feb 18 2007, 07:51 AM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:47 AM)
QUOTE (Ace @ Feb 18 2007, 01:41 PM)
well I know who I'm supporting........GO Ivo!!!!!!!!!!!

Why? :angry:

If Murray wins the tourny he will gain some respect in my books though :P

you mean he doesnt have any just now!!! :o

Murraynator - February 18, 2007 01:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ace @ Feb 18 2007, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:47 AM)
QUOTE (Ace @ Feb 18 2007, 01:41 PM)
well I know who I'm supporting........GO Ivo!!!!!!!!!!!

Why? :angry:

If Murray wins the tourny he will gain some respect in my books though :P

Ace is bitter because they lost Greg to us. :P Only joking mate

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 01:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:56 AM)
QUOTE (Ace @ Feb 18 2007, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:47 AM)
QUOTE (Ace @ Feb 18 2007, 01:41 PM)
well I know who I'm supporting........GO Ivo!!!!!!!!!!!

Why? :angry:

If Murray wins the tourny he will gain some respect in my books though :P

Ace is bitter because they lost Greg to us. :P Only joking mate

with a name like "Ace" you gotta be rooting for Karlovic!

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 02:00 PM (GMT)
I'm gonna head out, but hope to be back at 11pm to gloat to you all..... I've paid my fee for my right to view the match so i can let you all know how it looks.

See ya's later

Murraynator - February 18, 2007 02:05 PM (GMT)
See ya mate. :)

Ace - February 18, 2007 02:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:56 AM)
QUOTE (Ace @ Feb 18 2007, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE (Murraynator @ Feb 18 2007, 07:47 AM)
QUOTE (Ace @ Feb 18 2007, 01:41 PM)
well I know who I'm supporting........GO Ivo!!!!!!!!!!!

Why? :angry:

If Murray wins the tourny he will gain some respect in my books though :P

Ace is bitter because they lost Greg to us. :P Only joking mate

I was surprised but impressed that he beat Roddick though :)

chetanpv - February 18, 2007 03:31 PM (GMT)
There's definitely going to be a few tie-breakers in this match. Murray seems to be the best returner on the tour his year.

Is Murray playing in Dubai? Wish he is as his matches with Nadal/Federer would be interesting.

WimbledonAce - February 18, 2007 03:39 PM (GMT)
After handling Roddick it has to be Murray all the way! God i'm gonna be knackered tomorrow! Go Andy!!!! :yahoo:

Scotsguy - February 18, 2007 03:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (chetanpv @ Feb 18 2007, 04:31 PM)
There's definitely going to be a few tie-breakers in this match. Murray seems to be the best returner on the tour his year.

Is Murray playing in Dubai? Wish he is as his matches with Nadal/Federer would be interesting.

I dont think so, I think Murray prefers the US indoor season, he's sown for memphis next week and thne LAs vegas, after that it's Indian Wells and Miami so i guess he'll stay in the US....

chokapova - February 18, 2007 03:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Scotsguy @ Feb 18 2007, 09:49 AM)
I think Murray prefers the US indoor season

Isnt San Jose played outdoors? :shrug:

Scotsguy - February 18, 2007 03:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (chokapova @ Feb 18 2007, 04:52 PM)
QUOTE (Scotsguy @ Feb 18 2007, 09:49 AM)
I think Murray prefers the US indoor season

Isnt San Jose played outdoors? :shrug:

No it's indoor- says so here ATP website go to the little box that says tournments and it says San Jose-Indoor Hard.

Scotsguy - February 18, 2007 04:22 PM (GMT)
The stats suggest it 'technically' should be a great match....


KArlovic leads in % of first serve points won
Murray leads in % of first return points won

Karlovic is 12= in % of second serve points won
Murray is 11th in % of second serve return points won

Karlovic is 1st in service games won
Murray is 4th in return games won.....


However when Murray is serving

Murray is 54th in first serve points won
Karlovic 93rd in 1st return points won

Murray is 26th in % 2nd serve points won
Karlovic is 84th in % 2nd serve return points won




So basically it'll b e a great match when Karlo is serving and rubbish when andy serves haha roflmao

felixsanchez - February 18, 2007 04:59 PM (GMT)
Nice to know Andy has the support of Eurosport! :angry: They put his match on eurosport 2! Like who actually has that channel?

Surely there couldn't be anything better on at 11pm, that they are ditching Murray for! :angry:

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 08:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Scotsguy @ Feb 18 2007, 10:22 AM)
The stats suggest it 'technically' should be a great match....


KArlovic leads in % of first serve points won
Murray leads in % of first return points won

Karlovic is 12= in % of second serve points won
Murray is 11th in % of second serve return points won

Karlovic is 1st in service games won
Murray is 4th in return games won.....


However when Murray is serving

Murray is 54th in first serve points won
Karlovic 93rd in 1st return points won

Murray is 26th in % 2nd serve points won
Karlovic is 84th in % 2nd serve return points won




So basically it'll b e a great match when Karlo is serving and rubbish when andy serves haha roflmao

roflmao

ivokarlovicfan - February 18, 2007 11:01 PM (GMT)
ooooh only a few minutes to go........ go Ivo

Gav - February 18, 2007 11:11 PM (GMT)
Go Andy!!!!!




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