in Perth, where Chris Eubank keeps his money roflmao

COME ON ENGLAND!

Ive got a bet now on 5-0 Australia! so hopefully Ponting will win the toss and bat first!m its meant to be another Flat Deck!

:angry:

Come on England!!!!

Win this one!

Or if not, then just draw it, why don't you!! :devil:

My prediction: Australia wipe the floor with England with a very convincing win.

Well, Ponting did win the toss, but didn't account for a great team bowling performance by England on a pitch that was doing something.

Panesar and an in-form Harmison have caused chaos and its Australia all out for 244!

England are 51/2 in reply, they have a chance to win this test!

They'll do well to be convincing from here ;)

Not a great start by the Aussies pretty poor batting but 244 is still runs on the board, and 51-2 isnt the most confident replies, the game is moving forward and it looks likely their will be a resuly in this game, for the sake of my bet hopefully it will be in Australia favour but we will have a better idea after tommorow.

Well I think the wicket has surprised everyone, and that can only be to England's benefit when they start batting tomorrow, having had a night to discuss it.

If England can get something like 350-400 they are odds-on to win this test

I think Warne on Day 5 on this wicket will be a real handful so if England are to have any chance of winning they need a leado of 100 minimum otherwise Aussies will feel they are in a situation where they can control the game, two quick wickets tommorow and the door is open for Australia as England do have a very long tail.

Monty is the king :bow:

Ah.....they surprised me.I hope they can keep it up and defeat the Aussies.

Well, Monty on day 4 will be a handful too.. :)

It's a result pitch, but Ark, I'd be hugely disappointed if 5-0 were the scoreline. Would be a travesty.. and have you actually watched any of the series? Fair enough, England were outplayed in Brisbane, lost just the one session (badly) in Adelaide. But apart from that they competed for 4 days in Adelaide and also at the WACA.

They are not as bad a side as your 5-0 makes out..

It's been a terrific day of test match cricket.. hopefully this will be a contest that goes England's way this time!! :yahoo:

The Australians were arrogant in the way that they tried to play Monty.. and paid the price..

Great to see Harmy back in form too. :ok:

Update no 1: England were in danger of throwing away the Ashes after being reduced to 114-6 still 130 runs behind Australia in the third Ashes Test.

Hmm as usual Australia's underhand tactics continue as Andrew Strauss was given out wrongly.
Flintoff out for 13 and Jones with a magnificent 0.

Its up to KP to do something now.

England throwing away the ashes?? Hmm. This implies that they weren't already in danger of losing them.. :rolleyes:

And Australia's underhand tactics??? Please elaborate...

England all out for 215... and guess what.. the highest partnership was between Steve Harmison and Monty Panesar!! :yikes: So much for Monty not being able to chip in with the bat!! :doh: The tail wagged!

So... Australia have a lead of 29. This test doesn't look likely to be a draw.

Well done to England for getting within decent striking distance of the Australian total, after having been reduced to 128 for 7 at one stage.

Well it seems England are trying their best to make my prediction come through.


All out for a paltry 215........lol
KP with 70.
Very disappointing stuff to be honest.

And now Aussie are 105 for 1 and building a big lead.

Its over I think.

The throwing away was from BBC.Go email them if u like :P

Oh and I find that way too often decisions go Australia's way.
Me being a windies fan....I've seen Lara give out wrongly at least 3 times in the recent past.
Plus in this one series there were like 3 decisions against australia to 11 against the windies.
Plus the Aussies appeal excessively alot.

Of course I have followed the series and watched the games and thats more reason why I can see 5-0, England are a good side and have played well at times even in this series in fact they have won a fair few sessions on points, but in all the ones that count they have been found wanting, i.e Adelaide last day and here first session, Australia find themselves now in a very healthy postion and poised to go 3-0 unless we have dramatic turn of events

Australia aren't going to win the series 5-0 - even when there was a horrific mismatch 4 years ago it was 4-1!

England have just got too many passengers in their batting lineup at the moment - only Colligwood, Bell and Pietersen have really given any genuine resistance amongst our specialist batsmen.
Strauss is missing Trescothick at the top of the order, Flintoff has not had a proper score when it matters for a long time now, Jones rarely contributes, so we are always liable to be in trouble with the batting balance so warped.

Look at Australia in comparison - it took some effort to get them all out once for 244, ~I doubt well get a second chance :(

And if you're wrong? :)


I can see 5-0 if things continue with how they have been going.
I'm pretty sure the confidence of the english is not at the highest after the appaling collapse in the 2nd test.

i think ace outcome look more realistic :(

And it seems like there could be one possible outcome at the moment.

Australia raced into a lead nearing 400 after reaching 347-3 just before tea.


It must be frustrating for an England fan.......good thing I'm not lol

Why use the bbc to justify the phrase that you used? Justify it yourself, as you just copied what the bbc did!! The bbc has been accused quite rightly of lazy sporting cliches in the past and this is one of them. They are inaccurate in this instance, as are you ;)

Deicisions often go the wayy of dominant teams. When the WIndies dominated in the late 70s and 80s, they often had decisions going their way.

Speaking of dominant.. Gilchrist :o

Australia declared on 527-5 with a lead of 556 - Gilchrist having hit the second fastest century in test history (57 balls)

Strauss out lbw to the fourth ball of Englands 2nd innings.

Carnage :(

I'd thought that prior to the last Ashes, England wouldn't win them back until 2009.. 2005 was a surprise..

This is Australia really upping the ante. And they have just about their strongest side doing their stuff.

England don't have their strongest side out, and it's a real shame.

Still don't think that it will be 5-0 though.. Does anyone know when an Ashes series last had a 5-0 result??

carnage :doh:

I was following a bit of this game this morning, absolute nightmare again!

!@Petalp.
I'm in canada.I don't get to see cricket live so Thats why.
I have 0 highlights of cricket on tv as well.
So its pretty much info from whatever crickets sites there is and bbc is the most convinient.

Ace, teh phrase 'dropped the Ashes' goes back to 1999 when Herschelle Gibbs dropped Steve Waugh in the semi final of the world cup.

Australia were in a really dicey position batting second. Gibbs had take the catch but started celebratory prematurely, and dropped the ball. Waugh said to Gibbs:'You've just dropped the world cup'.

The phrase then got transferred into other cricket tournaments such as the ashes.

The context of the phrase is that the Saffers would definitely have won had Gibbs held on to the ball for a fraction of a second longer.. they were in a dominant position at the time.

Why I think that the prase is not applicable here is that england have not been in a position to win any of the ashes tests, i.e. no dropped catch has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Hope this explains why I think that it doesn't apply to this situation.

Shame that you don't get hihglights of these matches. They are available on the beeb website, but I think for UK residents only, which is quite annoying.

Yea before I moved to canada i would stay up late into the morning watching cricket.But I don't even get bbc sport or cnn world sport whcih would give me highlights.


I know the match.I didn't watch it live cuz I had school but it was really close.
But i agree that England were never in a position of winning the ashes.

I wonder if they can salvage a draw but from what we have seen it is highly unlikely

Hmm.. as the world record for last innings run chase is 419, a win is highly unlikely, even though 2 days would be ample time to score runs.

I think that the result is likely to be a win for Australia. On the WACA scorebaord at the end of day 3, they already advertised day 4 as the day that Australia win back the Ashes.. some might call that realism, some might call that arrogant..

btw the last time that there was a 5-0 result in an Ashes series was 1921-22...

Hmm thats quite a while but in terms of Australia winning the ashes they have been doing so all the time in the past except for last year right?
Their dominance over England continues I guess.
They've been the best team around for quite a while now.

Yip.. Australia won back the Ashes in England in 1989 nd held them all the way through to 2005.

England last won them in Australia in 86/87.. it's been one way traffic for most series since then.

But no matter how often Australia have soundly beaten England, england have always managed to win one test at least in the series.. usually a dead rubber.

I must say that I'm not particularly a cricket fan - one day games can be fine, but I generally find the Test matches just too drawn out.

However, I've been lucky enough to be watching during some of the most dramatic spells of the last 2 sets - Englands collapse on the last morning of the 2nd test, and the last couple of hours of Australia's innings today and they were truly entertaining (as a neutral) to watch.

The Gilchrist century was riveting! The over where he stomped all over Panesar for 24 runs was something else!

We are now toast. :(

About 20 years ago, the test matches were a bit drab sometimes.. Boycott deadbatting his way to 30 runs in about 4 hours..

but in the last 10 years test matches have really picked up the pace and intensity. Australia are reponsible for this, and partly one-day cricket too.

Now test match cricket has become pretty dramatic stuff, and gaining in popularity.. and just an hour of madness can be pivotal in a 5 day match, just as at Adelaide.. Mad eh?!

The ironic thing is that Channel 4 got about 1 million viewers for cricket, and then lost the contract. Their final series was last year's Ashes where for the test at Trent Bridge they got 8 million viewers..

One day cricket was brought in to try to get people into test cricket.. and 20:20 cricket to try to get people into one-day cricket! One day cricket is much more popular than test cricket in India, Pakistan and WIndies.

However, the big seller in England and I think Australia is the test cricket, and especially the Ashes. The 5 day matches can have so many twists and turns even when apparently not a great deal is going on. 5 day cricket demands patience and attention but can be all the more rewarding viewing.

After the last Ashes series mny people couoldn't wait for this one in Australia, and after this series, many people in the UK will be looking forward to the next Ashes series in England.. They will sell out in hours, just like these ones have, as did the ones in 2005.

And yes, Gilchrist at his destructive best is an awesome sight. He did this sort of thing back in the 2001 series, and his demise seemed synonymous with Australia's.. but his return to blistering form is one of the most exciting batting displays to see.. even as a non-neutral..

Yup I agree ^^.
I like test cricket more but back home One day cricket was much more popular.

England are showing some fight currently 189 for 3.
But to be honest anything but an Australian victory at this point would really surprise me..

They still need another 290 odd to win the test could it possibly happen? :pray:

England showed some fight and grit cook Played well but losing two wickets at the end have pretty much killed England out of this game one more, Australia will win back the Ashes tommorow

Yes, England lost 2 wickets at the end of the day.

1 of those however was a tailender.

I don't think that losing 2 wickets at the end of the day "killed" their chances. For starters, precious few gave them a chance anyway!!

Cook getting out was a blow.. but if you had been following it, you might have realised that Cook had been living dangerously up to that point anyway, from when he was on about 80-odd.

And let's face it, any England supporter would have taken a scoreline with the loss of just 4 wickets throughout the day.

And parts of the australian media had already delcared the match overby the 4th day. Very arrogant and presumtious.

Excellent performance by england. Even if they lose this one, then they have at least taken yet another test to the fifth day.

The game might be over by lunchtime, and so what? They have been dogged by poor form (Flintoff, Harmy, Strauss), poor selection (G Jones, Giles) and injuries (Vaughan, Simon Jones), and to cap it all their schedule has been woeful in terms of allowing them to prepare for this series.

With all of that in mind, I am suprised that they have even been able to compete at Adelaide or Perth, esp. after the hiding that they got in Brisbane.

I hope that they continue their spirited resistance, and make really make Australia work to win the match.

See this is where I disagree with you mate, it doesnt matter if its a tailender or not the fact is now Australia need 5 wickets to win not 6 so its still relavent in this sort of situation.

I agree England never really had a chance of winning the match if they ended day 4 3 down then maybe they would have had a chance of saving a Test but 5 down its hard to see that now

And this is where I disagree with you. Hoggard would have been out early-ish tomorrow morning anyway (he lasts 30-ish balls on average). And it's not as if england can bat out for a draw and occupy the crease. The main downside of it was just that Flintoff had to bat out a few overs at the and of the day.

And yes your maths is correct, 5 wickets is less than 6. But losing Hoggard is less of a blow than losing KP or Flintoff..