Title: Binge drinking
Description: How do you all define binge drinking?
scolios - October 23, 2006 02:39 PM (GMT)
I found this in The Independent yesterday:
"Women in England and Ireland are officially the world's biggest binge drinkers, according to a unique study of global alcohol consumption. One in three 17- to 30-year-olds is now classed as a heavy drinker, bingeing on four or more drinks in one session at least once a fortnight."
to which my reaction was crikey, in that case I'm a daily binge-drinker! Seriously, though, is it true that if a woman has 4 glasses of wine in one session once a fortnight, then she indulges in binge drinking and is classified as a heavy drinker??
Big Al - October 23, 2006 02:42 PM (GMT)
For men, five pints of beer is classed as a binge. Which puts an awful lot of people in that category...
scolios - October 23, 2006 02:45 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Big Al @ Oct 23 2006, 02:42 PM) |
| For men, five pints of beer is classed as a binge. Which puts an awful lot of people in that category... |
Yes indeed, and so does four glasses of wine for a woman :yikes:
Big Al - October 23, 2006 03:02 PM (GMT)
I also read that one in ten people have a drink problem :yikes:
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SerenaW19 - October 23, 2006 03:06 PM (GMT)
Bloody hell if that classifies as binge drinking god help me :yikes:
liam_valid - October 23, 2006 03:31 PM (GMT)
ive had about 5 binges this weekend then :(
Mo aka Mz O'Hara - October 23, 2006 03:33 PM (GMT)
:o I drink 4-6, on average, glasses of wine in one session - once a week or sometimes only once a fortnight and maybe a couple of Smirnoff ices, or something similar......that means I binge according to this article :o
I occasionally have a glass of wine at home midweek, but I would say that is pretty rare.
Mo aka Mz O'Hara - October 23, 2006 03:34 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (liam_valid @ Oct 23 2006, 04:31 PM) |
| ive had about 5 binges this weekend then :( |
roflmao well it was your birthday I see Liam B)
Happy belated birthday wishes, :hug: and I see you had a great time :rolleyes:
Pebs - October 23, 2006 03:59 PM (GMT)
still getting over last binge session!
seriously, I know lots of people who drink more than that - it seems a very low amount to consider it binge drinking.
I always thought that binge drinking meant people who rarely drank but then would occasionally go out and have a right old session!
Big Al - October 23, 2006 04:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Pebs @ Oct 23 2006, 04:59 PM) |
still getting over last binge session!
seriously, I know lots of people who drink more than that - it seems a very low amount to consider it binge drinking.
I always thought that binge drinking meant people who rarely drank but then would occasionally go out and have a right old session! |
I thought it meant starting at 6pm and finishing at 3am!
Mind you, thats social drinking :roflmao:
Seriously, most people I know would say 5 pints was moderation!
welshboy91 - October 23, 2006 04:10 PM (GMT)
How I define binge drinking?
When you don't drink during the week, but when you do you drink way over the limit e.g. 20 units
Big Al - October 23, 2006 04:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (welshboy91 @ Oct 23 2006, 05:10 PM) |
How I define binge drinking?
When you don't drink during the week, but when you do you drink way over the limit e.g. 20 units |
Well five or six pints is about my limit anyway ! As for wine a couple of glasses does me. Middle age creeping in.
welshboy91 - October 23, 2006 04:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Big Al @ Oct 23 2006, 05:15 PM) |
| QUOTE (welshboy91 @ Oct 23 2006, 05:10 PM) | How I define binge drinking?
When you don't drink during the week, but when you do you drink way over the limit e.g. 20 units |
Well five or six pints is about my limit anyway ! As for wine a couple of glasses does me. Middle age creeping in.
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roflmao
I mean like drinking 10+ pints in one session
Big Al - October 23, 2006 04:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (welshboy91 @ Oct 23 2006, 05:15 PM) |
| QUOTE (Big Al @ Oct 23 2006, 05:15 PM) | | QUOTE (welshboy91 @ Oct 23 2006, 05:10 PM) | How I define binge drinking?
When you don't drink during the week, but when you do you drink way over the limit e.g. 20 units |
Well five or six pints is about my limit anyway ! As for wine a couple of glasses does me. Middle age creeping in.
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roflmao
I mean like drinking 10+ pints in one session
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Yeah thats what I would call a binge. Five pints seems not that much!
Mo aka Mz O'Hara - October 23, 2006 04:21 PM (GMT)
:shrug: I dunno, most of the fun things in life seem naughty too. :blink:
*thinks* and thats a bad thing :unsure: :unsure:
:giggle:
Big Al - October 23, 2006 04:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mo aka Mz O'Hara @ Oct 23 2006, 05:21 PM) |
:shrug: I dunno, most of the fun things in life seem naughty too. :blink:
*thinks* and thats a bad thing :unsure: :unsure:
:giggle: |
I know, anything fun is bad for you !
scolios - October 23, 2006 06:39 PM (GMT)
Thanks everyone! You all seem to think that four drinks once a fortnight hardly qualifies as binge drinking!
But I take WB's point that you are only a binge drinker if you drink relatively infrequently and then quite a bit. But I still don't see how it can be claimed that such people are heavy drinkers.
Heavy drinkers are surely habitual drinkers - I am one of them, about ½ bottle of wine on a daily basis (AND I've cut down a lot....) Bet none of you thought that old granny here coulod easily be called an alcoholic! (a well-functioning one :) )
The article in The Independent ended up by saying that in most countries in Europe the consumption of alcohol was decling - two of the exceptions being England and Denmark, where it is increasing. I haven't a chance then: English by birth, Danish by residence....
Pebs - October 23, 2006 06:43 PM (GMT)
roflmao no hope for you at all Scolios... you lucky thing you ;)
Nick Havoc - October 23, 2006 06:47 PM (GMT)
I guess I would have thought it would take more than 4 drinks to call it a "binge", but you guys are making me feel like a tea-totaller. Four glasses of wine sounds like a lot to me. That's basically a full bottle in one session. I'm more of a one or two drink person. (Although, by this definition, I did binge at a wedding w/ open bar that I went to a couple weeks back. I had four or five glasses of wine, and they were rather generous pours. :unsure: )
scolios - October 23, 2006 06:51 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Nick Havoc @ Oct 23 2006, 06:47 PM) |
| I guess I would have thought it would take more than 4 drinks to call it a "binge", but you guys are making me feel like a tea-totaller. Four glasses of wine sounds like a lot to me. That's basically a full bottle in one session. I'm more of a one or two drink person. (Although, by this definition, I did binge at a wedding w/ open bar that I went to a couple weeks back. I had four or five glasses of wine, and they were rather generous pours. :unsure: ) |
According to my glasses, a botle of wine contains SEVEN glasses, Nick - you must have enormous wine glasses in the US if there are only four to the bottle!
Nick Havoc - October 23, 2006 06:54 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (scolios @ Oct 23 2006, 01:51 PM) |
| QUOTE (Nick Havoc @ Oct 23 2006, 06:47 PM) | | I guess I would have thought it would take more than 4 drinks to call it a "binge", but you guys are making me feel like a tea-totaller. Four glasses of wine sounds like a lot to me. That's basically a full bottle in one session. I'm more of a one or two drink person. (Although, by this definition, I did binge at a wedding w/ open bar that I went to a couple weeks back. I had four or five glasses of wine, and they were rather generous pours. :unsure: ) |
According to my glasses, a botle of wine contains SEVEN glasses, Nick - you must have enormous wine glasses in the US if there are only four to the bottle!
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If you order wine out over here, most places do either a 5 oz. or 6 oz. pour. At 5 oz., there are 5 glasses in a 750ml bottle; at 6 oz. it's just a little over four glasses.
scolios - October 23, 2006 06:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Nick Havoc @ Oct 23 2006, 06:54 PM) |
| QUOTE (scolios @ Oct 23 2006, 01:51 PM) | | QUOTE (Nick Havoc @ Oct 23 2006, 06:47 PM) | | I guess I would have thought it would take more than 4 drinks to call it a "binge", but you guys are making me feel like a tea-totaller. Four glasses of wine sounds like a lot to me. That's basically a full bottle in one session. I'm more of a one or two drink person. (Although, by this definition, I did binge at a wedding w/ open bar that I went to a couple weeks back. I had four or five glasses of wine, and they were rather generous pours. :unsure: ) |
According to my glasses, a botle of wine contains SEVEN glasses, Nick - you must have enormous wine glasses in the US if there are only four to the bottle!
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If you order wine out over here, most places do either a 5 oz. or 6 oz. pour. At 5 oz., there are 5 glasses in a 750ml bottle; at 6 oz. it's just a little over four glasses.
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Yes, well, I can see that does make a difference! Four glasses in the "right" restaurant and you're reeling!
I was counting glasses as we pour them out at home - and believe me, we have vast experience :whistle: We are essentially wine- drinkers.
Dinky Jo - October 23, 2006 07:00 PM (GMT)
To be honest, i'm not much of a drinker, so sharing a bottle of wine between 2 is a lot for me!!!! (I guess that's about 4 glasses....) I don't know i'd consider it binge drinking - i belief that involves falling over and throwing up over yourself..... roflmao
SerenaW19 - October 23, 2006 07:10 PM (GMT)
I'd always thought you were French for some reason Scolios, don't ask me why roflmao
Nick Havoc - October 23, 2006 07:16 PM (GMT)
So what is a serving to the rest of you guys? I've always seen "standard" servings here listed as:
5 oz. wine (~150 ml)
1 1/2 oz. hard liquor (~45 ml)
12 oz. beer (~355 ml)
Dinky Jo - October 23, 2006 07:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Nick Havoc @ Oct 23 2006, 08:16 PM) |
So what is a serving to the rest of you guys? I've always seen "standard" servings here listed as:
5 oz. wine (~150 ml) 1 1/2 oz. hard liquor (~45 ml) 12 oz. beer (~355 ml) |
1 1/2 ox. - you guys have your liquer served by the ox?????
Dinky Jo - October 23, 2006 07:18 PM (GMT)
ummm....best say sorry to the Overlord for being cheeky..... :giggle:
sorry Overlord :bow:
welshboy91 - October 23, 2006 07:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dinky Jo @ Oct 23 2006, 08:17 PM) |
| QUOTE (Nick Havoc @ Oct 23 2006, 08:16 PM) | So what is a serving to the rest of you guys? I've always seen "standard" servings here listed as:
5 oz. wine (~150 ml) 1 1/2 ox. hard liquor (~45 ml) 12 oz. beer (~355 ml) |
1 1/2 ox. - you guys have your liquer served by the ox?????
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Only In America
sorry extreme overlord :bow:
Nick Havoc - October 23, 2006 07:20 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dinky Jo @ Oct 23 2006, 02:18 PM) |
ummm....best say sorry to the Overlord for being cheeky..... :giggle:
sorry Overlord :bow: |
:whip:
Dinky Jo - October 23, 2006 07:21 PM (GMT)
Now, a million rude comments have just run through my head - but i don't think any are suitable for a message board in all honesty.... :devil:
9mmSuzi - October 23, 2006 07:23 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (scolios @ Oct 23 2006, 12:39 PM) |
Thanks everyone! You all seem to think that four drinks once a fortnight hardly qualifies as binge drinking!
But I take WB's point that you are only a binge drinker if you drink relatively infrequently and then quite a bit. But I still don't see how it can be claimed that such people are heavy drinkers.
Heavy drinkers are surely habitual drinkers - I am one of them, about ½ bottle of wine on a daily basis (AND I've cut down a lot....) Bet none of you thought that old granny here coulod easily be called an alcoholic! (a well-functioning one :) )
The article in The Independent ended up by saying that in most countries in Europe the consumption of alcohol was decling - two of the exceptions being England and Denmark, where it is increasing. I haven't a chance then: English by birth, Danish by residence.... |
roflmao ...a classic rock and a hard place..
scolios - October 23, 2006 07:32 PM (GMT)
I have to say I'm impressed by how LITTLE you all drink. But then, you're mostly in your teens, twenties and thirties - you'll find the really hard drinkers are in their 50s, 60s and 70s. So, a treat ?? in store for you all...
I bet none of you smoke either :(
Dinky Jo - October 23, 2006 07:33 PM (GMT)
I did smoke......kind of....i gave up about 4 months ago
And i realised a while back that i'm not a very nice drunk - i tend to get really emotional, so i just don't really do it. I'm getting better at being drunk, but i really do know my limits
scolios - October 23, 2006 07:36 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (SerenaW19 @ Oct 23 2006, 07:10 PM) |
| I'd always thought you were French for some reason Scolios, don't ask me why roflmao |
Really SW?!! I know I've lived out of England for 48 years (:yikes:) but I didn't think my English was SO bad roflmao Hope not, I taught it at Uni for 30 years...
But i did live in France for six years when I was youngish :)
scolios - October 23, 2006 07:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dinky Jo @ Oct 23 2006, 07:33 PM) |
I did smoke......kind of....i gave up about 4 months ago
And i realised a while back that i'm not a very nice drunk - i tend to get really emotional, so i just don't really do it. I'm getting better at being drunk, but i really do know my limits |
Thank God you gave up smoking! Worst thing one can start on - except perhaos drugs. And I have to admit tht I hardly drank at all until I was 40 :rolleyes:
Pebs - October 23, 2006 10:03 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (scolios @ Oct 23 2006, 06:51 PM) |
| QUOTE (Nick Havoc @ Oct 23 2006, 06:47 PM) | | I guess I would have thought it would take more than 4 drinks to call it a "binge", but you guys are making me feel like a tea-totaller. Four glasses of wine sounds like a lot to me. That's basically a full bottle in one session. I'm more of a one or two drink person. (Although, by this definition, I did binge at a wedding w/ open bar that I went to a couple weeks back. I had four or five glasses of wine, and they were rather generous pours. :unsure: ) |
According to my glasses, a botle of wine contains SEVEN glasses, Nick - you must have enormous wine glasses in the US if there are only four to the bottle!
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I tend to get six to a bottle, four of which are too much for me - bit of a lightweight I am afraid :blush:
JymJilly - October 23, 2006 10:07 PM (GMT)
The old style wine glasses ( small) you can get six of those out of a bottle. But not many people use those small ones these days.
1 and 1/2 glasses of the largish ones is about 1/2 a bottle of wine.
Brakkus - October 23, 2006 10:07 PM (GMT)
When in my teens I would drink 30-40 pints a week.Having 5-6 pints nearly each night wasn't a big deal then.Now I'd be suprised if I could drink two.
Now I'm more cultured and drink wine mainly,in my thirties you know,gotta grow up sometime roflmao
It's the influence of the wife,we have a bottle between us a few nights a week.
petalp - October 23, 2006 10:21 PM (GMT)
Oh, am a complete lightweight when it comes to this stuff!! roflmao
Mind you, most of my friends seem to drink like billyo.. I seem to come in handy for making sure that they get home alright at the end of the evening :) Also the days of both working in a bar, and DJing got me very much into that rather lazy description 'social drinker' (which means...:shrug: you drink not to feel left out?! :lol: )
Of course I'm a major disappointment to my parents, who drink rather a lot of the vino. I once e-mailed a northern Exposure drinking game to my Dad, who in turn thanked me for this, and thought that it would actually help to curtail their wine consumption! :yikes:
petalp - October 23, 2006 10:22 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Brakkus @ Oct 23 2006, 10:07 PM) |
When in my teens I would drink 30-40 pints a week.Having 5-6 pints nearly each night wasn't a big deal then.Now I'd be suprised if I could drink two.
Now I'm more cultured and drink wine mainly,in my thirties you know,gotta grow up sometime roflmao
It's the influence of the wife,we have a bottle between us a few nights a week. |
Brakkus the beer monster teenager! :yikes:
And now Brakkus the cultured wino! :D
"Brakkus in vino veritas"