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Title: Berdych at Madrid
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Dinky Jo - October 21, 2006 08:48 AM (GMT)
There a message on the BBC boards about Berdych being a disgrace, with reference to his match with Nadal. What did he do???

Scotsguy - October 21, 2006 08:59 AM (GMT)
He put his finger to his lips as if to silence the crowd, they'd been clapping berdych's errors and DFs.....TBH-It was Nadal who whipped them into the frenzy by fist pumping tomas' errors first....

Dinky Jo - October 21, 2006 09:01 AM (GMT)
Sounds fair if you ask me. If players are allowed to get the crowd to cheer more, then why shouldn't they ask them to be quiet?

Dinky Jo - October 21, 2006 09:02 AM (GMT)
this is the message on the BBC boards:

"Why would he do that after a highly enjoyable match, which he won? He was playing the best player in the world and beat him, so should have revelved in the moment, rather than get all th ebad press which he is going to get. He's a disgrace."

(and no, it wasn't from a troll....)

Tennisveritas - October 21, 2006 09:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dinky Jo @ Oct 21 2006, 02:48 AM)
There a message on the BBC boards about Berdych being a disgrace, with reference to his match with Nadal.  What did he do???

Hi Dinky Jo

I believe this guy at the BBC board is referring to what happens at the end of the match and the way in which Berdy manage to "shut up" the Spanish Crowd...

NADAL-BERDY & SPANISH CROWD

He was not very smart on his side: i guess that now everything the guy will be back in Spain he will have a lot of problems with the spectators...I mean you did the job, i.e. you beat Nadal in his home so go smooth and stay calm: It is really the outcome of young age and not a lot of experiences. B)

dl04 - October 21, 2006 09:11 AM (GMT)
I think berdych has the right to be frustrated with the treatment from the crowd. I understand they were trying to will on their man, but they could so so with some credit for his opponent as well. Players arent to blame, just the crowd :rolleyes:

Dinky Jo - October 21, 2006 09:14 AM (GMT)
does anyone have a link for post-match interviews, 'cos i've heard that Nadal wasn't very complementary about berdych either.....

Tennisveritas - October 21, 2006 09:19 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (dl04 @ Oct 21 2006, 03:11 AM)
I think berdych has the right to be frustrated with the treatment from the crowd. I understand they were trying to will on their man, but they could so so with some credit for his opponent as well. Players arent to blame, just the crowd :rolleyes:

Hi dl04

:ok: I fully agree with you but it is not very smart to tell the crowd what do you think at the end of a match...I mean what should have done then FED after the match against Blake or the finals against Agassi and A-ROD? You should be smart and do not say and do anything...Your victory is already there in any case ;)

dl04 - October 21, 2006 09:21 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tennisveritas @ Oct 21 2006, 09:19 AM)
QUOTE (dl04 @ Oct 21 2006, 03:11 AM)
I think berdych has the right to be frustrated with the treatment from the crowd. I understand they were trying to will on their man, but they could so so with some credit for his opponent as well. Players arent to blame, just the crowd :rolleyes:

Hi dl04

:ok: I fully agree with you but it is not very smart to tell the crowd what do you think at the end of a match...I mean what should have done then FED after the match against Blake or the finals against Agassi and A-ROD? You should be smart and do not say and do anything...Your victory is already there in any case ;)

Hi TV :D

Yeah i agree with that. Better just to accept that you've won, rather than winning and moaning about it :lol:

It works both ways i suppose :)

Dinky Jo - October 21, 2006 09:58 AM (GMT)
can i just ask again - does anyone have links for the interviews at Madrid? I can't find anything on the website :(

scolios - October 21, 2006 10:28 AM (GMT)
Press Conference Rafa Nadal
Madrid, 20th October


Q. How big is it to beat Nadal in Masters Series in Madrid?
TOMAS BERDYCH: I think the more important thing for me is, yeah, that I beat him right here in the Masters Series, but the more important thing is that I can beat him in his home in Spain.

Q. You have beaten him three times in a row, am I correct? So it seems like you have an edge on him or what?
TOMAS BERDYCH: I don't know. Maybe I have to say that I like his game. Yeah, when we play on some fast courts, some hard court or here indoor, so that's an advantage for me. And I'm very happy that I can use the advantage of the fast court. And I made the matches to the win.

Q. He also plays a long way behind the baseline, doesn't he? Does this give you time to wind up with your big strokes?
TOMAS BERDYCH: Yeah. I think this is the kind of game that I like; that he's just running on the back of the court, and he's running besides the linesman. And then he's just hitting the balls up through the net. And then I can go for a volley or I can hit the forehand. I think for me it's much better than when I'm playing Federer, when he's chipping all the balls and he's playing more smart on my game. So that's why I can beat Rafael three times.

Q. Are you surprised that he doesn't try to change that pattern a bit more?
TOMAS BERDYCH: I don't know. I seen him many times in many of the matches, and I think ‑‑ I don't know. When he's playing his best tennis, he's running, he's everywhere. And then he can hit some unbelievable shots. But, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I never saw him play some different style of the game.

Q. What were your emotions when you were giving that little message to the crowd at the end?
TOMAS BERDYCH: I was expecting to play some guy in his country is going to be tough. But if it's going to be tough like this, I'm not expecting that. Because I can understand that they want for him to win the match and win the tournament, of course. He's second in the world, yeah, he's a great player, but I think they have to understand that there's many, many other players that can beat him. And then when he say to you that you are very bad, for me it's nice that a very bad player can beat him three times.

Q. Congratulations, because you have played great tennis. You have said that you are very happy for beating Nadal here in Spain? What do you think about the Spanish fans, about the Spanish spectators?
TOMAS BERDYCH: I already said this. I was expecting that they were going to stay on his side and they would follow him and they would want him to win the tournament and win the match. But I think this is not the Davis Cup. The Davis Cup is I think absolutely different. Here they are screaming when you hit the double fault. You expect this in the Davis Cup, but you're not expecting it in this tournament.

Q. Do you think this could happen in your country, the Czech Republic?
TOMAS BERDYCH: No, never. They're going to support me, but not in this style like if he hit a double fault and then the stadium would go out and be screaming.

Q. What about your gesture at the end of the match?
TOMAS BERDYCH: I just showed them that they have to know that there's some other player in the circuit that can beat Rafael. And that it's not only him in Spain who can win. They have to know that tennis is for both sides. It's not only like football, just one team, and if they are losing it's still the same. I just show them there's something different than Rafael.

Q. I understand you. But do you think that you have made a mistake ‑‑ you have made a mistake, you have made a great match, but, do you think at the end you made a mistake?
TOMAS BERDYCH: Me? About what?

Q. No. Telling the people to be silent and all that. Only a question. Answer whichever way you want.
TOMAS BERDYCH: If Rafael say to you when you're shaking hands that you are very bad, what do you want to do? I'm not make nothing wrong on the court. I'm not talking about one single shot, which I want to say that it was out or it was good. I think the referee was great. He doesn't make one mistake in the whole match. I don't know nothing, nothing like I was making like this to his eyes or whatever. I don't know why he needs to say to me that I'm very bad.

Q. He said to you that you are a bad guy or a bad player? What did he tell you?
TOMAS BERDYCH: He just told me with his English that, "You are very bad."




This is what I found on the Madrid site, DinkyJo: it says its Nadal, but as you have seen it's Berdych!!! :o

Tennisveritas - October 21, 2006 10:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dinky Jo @ Oct 21 2006, 03:58 AM)
can i just ask again - does anyone have links for the interviews at Madrid?  I can't find anything on the website :(

Re Hi Dinky Jo

I am looking as well to have the full script but the only source available at the moment is the Master TV here:

MASTER-TV

well there in his post match interview Berdy points out once again that the Spanish crowd was very nasty and that this is not the usual crowd's behaviour in a major Tennis events...Not wrong at all as a general remark...But there was no need to show his point of view in front of the crowd... :rolleyes:

Dinky Jo - October 21, 2006 10:31 AM (GMT)
Hey TV - where did you find that on the madrid site???

Tennisveritas - October 21, 2006 10:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dinky Jo @ Oct 21 2006, 04:31 AM)
Hey TV - where did you find that on the madrid site???

Nope in the ATP site...i am following the entire master series from there: It was very useful for those very far as the Inadian,Miami and the North American in general...Youp ;)

scolios - October 21, 2006 10:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dinky Jo @ Oct 21 2006, 10:31 AM)
Hey TV - where did you find that on the madrid site???

Did you mean TV or me, Dinky Jo?!

I found the interview with Berdych under "news" (on the Madrid site, English version.) There wasn't an interview with Nadal, but i imagine ythat would be in the Spanish version of the site and I don't speak Spanish.

Dinky Jo - October 21, 2006 10:38 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (scolios @ Oct 21 2006, 11:37 AM)
QUOTE (Dinky Jo @ Oct 21 2006, 10:31 AM)
Hey TV - where did you find that on the madrid site???

Did you mean TV or me, Dinky Jo?!

I found the interview with Berdych under "news" (on the Madrid site, English version.) There wasn't an interview with Nadal, but i imagine ythat would be in the Spanish version of the site and I don't speak Spanish.

Ooops - yep, meant you, sorry scolios!!! I'll have a look....

Dinky Jo - October 21, 2006 10:42 AM (GMT)
Thanks scolios - i managed to find the interviews!! Like you said, no Nadal one, but at least I know where they are now! :)

scolios - October 21, 2006 10:46 AM (GMT)
I checked the Spanish version, though, and THAT is where the interview with nadal is :( - and I could understand one word in 100!!

Tennisveritas - October 21, 2006 10:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (scolios @ Oct 21 2006, 04:37 AM)
QUOTE (Dinky Jo @ Oct 21 2006, 10:31 AM)
Hey TV - where did you find that on the madrid site???

Did you mean TV or me, Dinky Jo?!

I found the interview with Berdych under "news" (on the Madrid site, English version.) There wasn't an interview with Nadal, but i imagine ythat would be in the Spanish version of the site and I don't speak Spanish.

In any case Dinky Jo & scolios...It seems really that these two young men are far from being good friends...I have a bad feeling for any future match: I.E. one in which there would be some mistake by the referee :P ...

BTW This answer is far from being nice:

Q. He said to you that you are a bad guy or a bad player? What did he tell you?
TOMAS BERDYCH: He just told me with his English that, "You are very bad." :yikes:

yorkshire - October 21, 2006 10:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tennisveritas @ Oct 21 2006, 11:46 AM)
BTW This answer is far from being nice:

Q. He said to you that you are a bad guy or a bad player? What did he tell you?
TOMAS BERDYCH: He just told me with his English that, "You are very bad." :yikes:

The phrase "sore loser" comes to mind. ;)

mightyjeditribble - October 21, 2006 04:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (yorkshire @ Oct 21 2006, 04:47 AM)
QUOTE (Tennisveritas @ Oct 21 2006, 11:46 AM)
BTW This answer is far from being nice:

Q. He said to you that you are a bad guy or a bad player? What did he tell you?
TOMAS BERDYCH: He just told me with his English that, "You are very bad."  :yikes:

The phrase "sore loser" comes to mind. ;)

This is from Rafa's interview on the Madrid site:


QUOTE

  Q. Rafa, what did you say to Berdych at the end of the game? He said that you told him that he was a bad guy, he was very bad. Is that correct?
RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah. Correct.

Q. What do you mean by that?
RAFAEL NADAL: Huh?

Q. What do you mean when you say he's very bad? In what ways is he very bad?
RAFAEL NADAL: Maybe he'. The question was if I had said to Berdych that he was very bad. That was the question. Okay? And the answer is that I've told him that, yes. With my emotions because I'm very ‑‑ I get cold when I lose. But I think he's a player that week after week shows he's one of the top players in the world. He's very close to being in the Top‑10. Next year he'll probably reach the Top‑10 because he has a very high tennis level. But I said that because in Toronto I didn't say anything, but he was constantly giving bad looks and nasty looks to the opponent. At that time it was not good. And today during the match it happened again constantly. He looked, and he looked at me with not a very friendly face. During the match I'm focused on my game. I wasn't about to say anything during the match. But maybe the last thing he did with his finger was out of place. The crowd was supporting me. It has been excellent. But nothing against him. The crowd supports a Spanish player. I've also played in the Czech Republic, and I want to thank the crowd. It has been an incredible atmosphere. And for me it's been an honor to play here again. Even though I'm leaving in the quarter finals, my feelings are great. Well, he did that at the end with his finger. I won the fifth point in Czech Republic, which I think is more important than quarter finals here, and the crowd was not supporting me that time either. And I didn't do anything with my fingers or my face or my attitude there. In my opinion that's what he should have been doing here. For the rest, nothing else to say. You need to analyze the match itself and not what happens afterwards, the consequences of everything. What you need to analyze is the match. For the rest we will go ‑‑ he'll go his way, I'll go mine, and we will meet or not. We'll see.



He also says

QUOTE


Q. Different styles match up in different ways. Is there something about his style which matches up bad for you?
RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah. He plays very aggressive. He has very good shots, very tough shots. He drives the ball very hard. He plays very long. It's difficult. I am trying to sometimes returning inside the court. I am trying to sometimes go from the back for a return. I'm trying to play a little bit more aggressive, a little bit more defensive. I'm trying all the time to find a way. But it was very difficult. He was playing very good. I find a way, because I played a very good second set. I had my chances, and I didn't have good luck in those moments. For me it was a nice match with different styles. He was good. He was playing very, very good. I was playing good, too. The tennis is two points sometimes. Today I had a chance with myself in the 6‑5 and after in the 6‑6. It was his ball and he had the passing shot, with the back hand, passing shot. At that moment the match changed a lot in one point. That's it. But the match for me was a very nice match, a very good level with different styleBBoth styles were good. His worked a little bit better, but I am trying for next year. I'll work harder for playing next year. And I want to win this match next year for sure. Thank you.

mightyjeditribble - October 21, 2006 04:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (dl04 @ Oct 21 2006, 03:11 AM)
I think berdych has the right to be frustrated with the treatment from the crowd. I understand they were trying to will on their man, but they could so so with some credit for his opponent as well. Players arent to blame, just the crowd :rolleyes:

Well, I do agree with you.

Still, it's the same everywhere: people will cheer not only *for* their favorites, but also *against* the opponent. Certainly at the French, the USO (Agassi!), even at Wimbledon.

So I think Nadal also has a point --- it's the way it is anywhere, and after all these are the people who are buying the tickets. While I can understand Berdych's irritation, he could have just let the crowd be and said something (moderate) about it in the interview. But he's still rather young, isn't he? After the match, he probably just wanted to tell them 'scr*w you all, I still won'. Understandable, but perhaps not so wise.

yorkshire - October 21, 2006 05:01 PM (GMT)
Yep, he's only about 20, so it's a good lesson to learn. He'll no doubt come up against it many more times in his career.

JymJilly - October 22, 2006 11:57 AM (GMT)
I felt sorry for Berdy really. He played an excellent match but unfortunately the crowd didnt appreciate it. Shame.
The point is though he won so it didnt affect him that much.
Nadal it seems is a shadow of the player he was last year.

Alli - October 23, 2006 04:26 AM (GMT)
I didnt't see the match but I've seen footage of the last point and subsequent reactions and am I the only one that can't see what the fuss is about :shrug: I didn't think Berdych's guesture was too bad, and it's obvious Nadal says something not complementary to him at the net (later revealed to be 'you are very bad') which is probably not something I'd react very well to in that situation either, overall I don't think it's a situation that is any different than what often happens except the fact that it's Nadal involved...

JymJilly - October 23, 2006 08:12 AM (GMT)
Well he said.
" very bad , very bad , not good " I think he just put his fingers to his lips and shushed the crowd as they were giving him a hard time. Jeering and Heckling him throughout the match. I think he shut them up by playing great Tennis and really thrashing Nadal in 2 . They obviously did not expect that was going to happen.
A lot of fuss about nothing imo. Anyway he wasnt intimidated was he ? He won

Big Al - October 23, 2006 03:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JymJilly @ Oct 23 2006, 09:12 AM)
Well he said.
" very bad , very bad , not good " I think he just put his fingers to his lips and shushed the crowd as they were giving him a hard time. Jeering and Heckling him throughout the match. I think he shut them up by playing great Tennis and really thrashing Nadal in 2 . They obviously did not expect that was going to happen.
A lot of fuss about nothing imo. Anyway he wasnt intimidated was he ? He won

Storm in a teacup.

JymJilly - October 23, 2006 11:01 PM (GMT)
Nadal trying to speak english is just so funny. Bless !! :D




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