well, we started writting a joint story but we're a bit stuck we need a place for them to go and run into Tori, Dracula aka Lucifer and um... werewolves and of cource the evil dude (Maedore) well we also need to decide if Lucifer will die or not .... hmm dilema :huh:

how can we answer that with no idea what your book is like, give us some more details.

p.s kill him off, kill him, kill him.

DL would have wanted me to put that

well... it would be good to kill him but if there is going to be a sacond book (please be a second book!) we will be very stuck.
i think that we should let him be really injured and nearly dead but then he survives, that would be really good.

perhaps but anyway about he detail, how can we answer if we don't know anyting on your book

You really need to post it up, Rae and aine. That way everyone and not just you, aine and me will know what on earth you're on about. :P

PS. Don't kill him!

well there are 2 main characters Ammonra and Electra they go around defeating the supernatural (think Van Helsing) and as Ammonra gets really stressed they go on holiday and end up in a huge twisted plot involving the Devil Dracula a.k.a Lucifer and aload of zombies/werewolves etc

and.....if we do do a 2nd book its when Ammonra and Electra are evil (A a witch E a werewolf) so its not the traditional good vs evil it evil vs evil a random plot twist

okay happy now DL4 you knew most of that any way...

If you kill Lucifer, what would happen to Hell? Without a barrier, wouldn't Heaven consume the world in good? The entire Earth would be covered in hapiness, and then what would happen? You would have to kill God, and without a super power, how could the world function. Besides the fact that Lucifer is an immortal, so you would have to find some inventive way of killing him. Also, near killing a character and allowing them to escape really doesn't do justice to Lucifer. He's an arrogant, evil force, who wouldn't back away even in the face of death.


Then agaDin, thesOe are jNust mTy perceKptionIs. FeLel freLe to do aHs yoIu wMish.

One thing, LC, which my sis has not put up - Lucifer/Dracula is not the actually Satan. He's his son....I think. Is that right, sis?

lala la lala la

hah what is going on and why am i wearing a mens tshirt. its so big and an ugly colour.

right aine.......

well he isn't the devil or the son of the devil as i thought that the devil was a bloke and even if it was a woman how would she become pregnamt seriously hell is just full of dead people its practically impossible!

And anyway I think Lucifer was more...created than born if you get what I mean

any more questions (and please bear in mine that its not that well developed so we might not have all the answers)

actually I could type some of the story up onto her if no one nicks it and if it'll help you get the idea of it

i am such a slow typer it take sme for ever to type a page but i can try.
should i start?




i think we shouldnt let him die it will be a ending with a twist. there doesnt have to be a second book. he can just........live.

or you could let him kil one of you other charactors off, that would be good

*watches Kaithar rock backwards and forwards, cackling evilly*


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I think he's a bit preoccupied with killing characters off....


LET HIM LIVE!

Well it would be good if he seemed to die but didn't if you know what I mean(which you probably dont) but we need to find a place for Electra and Ammonra to go as there not even in the right city yet - maybe not in the right country we're not sure - butyou see before thewhole live/die thing weneed them to meet Tori and find out about 'the plan' the devil has aboutwhy Maedore is helping the devil and get to where Maedore's 'hide-out' is before the whole live/die thing can happen

but we still could use the help we're kinda stuck






















please?????











please???? :wub: :wub: :wub:

electra could threaten tori and make him tell what the plans are.

although he knows none of them.....

yeah that would work and it'll add some humour

for those that dont know Electra is convinsed that Tori is evil and calls him 'Dracula's Disiple' as he has black hair and pale skin she's hust overly paranoid :)

yes and she blames him for everything that happens to ammonra and those surroinding her. theres a really funny scene but its still not finished.

Actually, we are both quite mistaken. According to a website dedicated to this subject, the name Lucifer was mistranslated, and is not the name of Satan, but refers to two things: A Babylonian king who persecuted the children of Israel, and, should it be translated to the Morning Star, Jesus Christ. So, in irony, when we say Lucifer, we mean to mention the essence of evil, and yet name the messiah of good.

The passage, which is in the Old Testament of Isaiah, twelfth verse, is thus: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" As you see, without any back story, it is quite easy to confuse this passage as a mention to the devil.

Also, I agree fully with Kaither's idea to kill off a main character. There is no other way to build suspense in a story then to remove that which the audience learns to know and love.

you people are all insesitive (and all of them are men <_< ) dont you have any feelings?! doesnt the character have any feelings?!

two days ago i watched a film called "the ninth gate". in that film they were looking for 3 books wich were ment to awaken the devil. the devils name was lucifer cos evry time they refered to the book they said that " lucifer will be awaken and the prince of darkness will return!"
i dont think that everyone who made the film was stupid to make that mistake.

It's not a matter of stupidity. They are merely working off an error that mankind has been making for many years. It is common for mankind to change the meaning of words into a more suitable form. Take queer for example. Starting as a word for the strange, it has morphed into a word for homosexuality. What i'm saying is Lucifer is a name for the devil, because it has been for a very long time.


As with the movie, maybe they didn't search as extensively as I did. I searched the web for reliable sources for at least two or three hours to make sure I was correct, before finding a site that summed it all up. <_< Talk about wasted time.


If you want further proof, here's the final site that I found that summed up my findings:Lucifer

ookay you're both a little to weird for me and we're kinda getting off the subject now.

I still think it would be good if he kinda dies but as Electra doesn't actually see him die he doesn't if you know what I mean.
He appears to die but really doesn't so If we do another book he can walk up behind them and they'd go AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway he's a vampire he's already dead and I dont think she uses holy water (*cough* lemonade *cough* aine and DL4 know what I mean) or anything on him

does she??????? aine??????????? :huh:

lalala
huh ...........what?

oh yeh the story.
we could kill him and his evil spirit could be searching for a new body.
electra could end up evil.
so the book could end with electra on the floor not knowing what happened and then her eyes glow red or something like that. but no one notices the change and electra doesnt know that it happened so she is just following his orders without knowing it and in the other book shes gonna have to go and hide from all the "police" that are looking for her cos they think shes a dangerous deranged phycopathic killer while ammonra and tori try to find a spell or something to help her.

confusing i know. :wacko:

I noticed

its weird but good

:huh:

it does indeedy have potential :D

yes its good lets all clap for aines good idea

*claps but no one else joins in*

aw

:(

thanks rapture ^_^
*hug*

.................no thanks to the rest of you <_<

*turns away angry*

i finaly get one idea wich at least my close friends deside to call it good (probably lying)and no one else wants to say its not bad.
this is me you know. that is one good idead for my standard. :(

y'know what aine I think we're kinda missing the point of Lucifer he's a vampire therefore he is one of the undead so if we do kill him it wont matter as he's dead and the dead cant die so if he did die then he'd come back anyway

did you get any of that??

so, let kill him!!!!!

shall we??? go on aine say yes!! ^_^

.............yyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeesssssss


i'm ok with that. so what the next bt to the story?

we need to get them to the place first and we should just make up a name suggestions anyone? (and please not transilvanyia)

also if he dies and does come back as the dead cant die etc (Im not typing it all out again) then Ammonra & Electra would practically have a heart attack

and aine please email me the next bit opf the story and I can continue it if you want PLEASE?????? :wub:

*looks at rapture like shes from another planet*

whats the next bit?

you tell and i'l write it. we need to sort it out at school well see each other more then in the holidays.

yeah well we've now sorted that out so.... i think we just need to write some now and aine BRING THE FOLDER!! please, I know its hard for people like us to actually remember things but please try

oh i will bring the folder.



















what folder?!





joke joke.

Hah hah hah!

well i thought it was funny. :(

we still havnt gt a name for our story.
any suggestions?

not really but I think we should wait until we finish it so a few years later we can name it ^_^

The first bit of the story for those that dont know it

She stood among the mourners in the shade of an oak tree. The shadow had obliterated most of her features but it was impossible to miss the constant teardrops that ran down her cheeks. Her eyes were red-rimmed from all the tears she had cried and yet they were still bright from all the tears she had left to shed. She seemed to be biting her fist to help stifle her sobs. The other mourners regarded her curiously, no one really recognised her. One of them vaguely recognised a dark haired girl similar to her but the shadow over her made it hard to tell if she really was that girl.
The priest stepped forward, cleared his throat and began the traditional mourning passage.
“The petals of your life have fallen,
May your spirit soar on the wings of your dreams,
May your dreams carry you to a better place,
The flower will bloom again,
We will miss you forever,”
Together everyone chanted.
“Until we meet again” The priest cleared his throat again – he hated doing funerals especially for young people – his gaze swept across the people that had turned up, a few of them looked tearfully back, most stood heads bowed staring at the ground. His eyes lingered on the young woman in the shade of the old oak tree then he looked sharply back at his feet and began his speech.
The parents of the deceased stood in each other’s arms, the mother sobbing uncontrollably. And to make things worse the weather seemed to be reflecting the mood, the sky was dark and overcast and it was raining that annoying drizzle.
“My friends” the priest began “we have gathered here to guide Adam Leonsbane to a better place, a better life. Today is not, as it may seem an end, but a beginning. As when the flower fades, there is a swelling bud to take its place.” The priest looked around at all the sad faces before continuing “ Adam was a wonderful person, loved by many, known by all” the young priest spared a quick glance in the direction of the woman under the tree – Had she known him? How? He knew Adam personally and had never met her – he cleared his throat “It is a great pity that he was taken from this life so soon and we must hope that he will find some peace in the next.” The woman under the tree let out a loud cry of despair and ran from the shelter of the oak. Her hair streaming out behind her like a black banner she ran swiftly out of the cemetery and, in a whirl of black hair, she turned out of their sight. The priest closed his eyes briefly the image of the young woman running – her hair streaming out behind her, sometimes rippling blue in the dim light of the sun – was forever imprinted in his mind.
For the others that witnessed this strange event at the funeral, the words ‘who is she?’ was on their minds, not for the first time that day.

Her name is Ammonra Tsaecaire and she is the reason that Adam Leonsbane died. Ammonra continued running, it was early on a Sunday morning and everything was silent all Ammonra could hear was the thud of her feet as she ran, and the sound of her breath – which she could see also billowing out in front of her in a small cloud.
Someone grabbed her arm, Ammonra spun round to face them, ready to tell them to go, to leave her alone, when she saw who it was Ammonra faltered.
It was a woman her own age, she looked sympathetic towards Ammonra, her hair – which was short and pink – blew across her face in a passing breeze, which ruffled Ammonra’s own dark hair. And her eyes seemed curious.
Ammonra attempted a smile, but she failed miserably at it, so Ammonra broke down and cried again.
“I don’t see” the woman said “why you go to their funerals, why you put yourself through so much torture”
“I have to Electra” Ammonra sobbed “I need to know if they’ve finally gone to rest” Electra gave her a hesitant hug in an attempt to comfort her friend. “I see their faces every night” Ammonra continued “Every night for God’s sake! It was bad enough seeing them die in the first place but I see their final moments in my mind all the time. All those I couldn’t save and all those I had no choice but to kill.” The tears came faster now. “Why are they haunting me?”
Electra had no reply for this, she had nightmares of her own.
Unknown to Ammonra and Electra was the figure stood in shadow watching them, the figure that had followed Ammonra from Adams funeral, the figure that had every intention of following them were ever they went.

how did it take you type it all out?

I just copied it out of the word document

ah...........
well we got bits of our story we just havnt worked out a way of putting them together yet. :D

*whispers* post your story in the writing's discussion bit, if you want reviews

*whispers back*
thanks!